Vancouver developer Robert J. Macdonald called NDP leader Carole James a “smiling, shiny puppet of left-wing ideologues” and warned that New Democrats pose a greater threat to British Columbia’s economic well-being than the global economic meltdown.
Macdonald’s pithy speech was presented by the Urban Development Institute as part of its annual industry forecast luncheon.
“Those of us who remember the early 1980s remember that a serious recession is where interest rates are 20 per cent, there is no available credit, junior Canadian banks go bust left and right, billions are lost, government practices restraint instead of fiscal stimulus, a hundred thousand people protest in the streets, unemployment soars to 15 per cent, property values fall in half, and land values fall by 90 per cent,” Macdonald said.
By comparison, he continued, "The current economic slowdown in B.C. is really just a recession for sissies."
The Vancouver native, whose Macdonald Development Corp. claims more than $100 million worth of development activity in British Columbia, said B.C. is booming.
“The province of B.C. is in a truly envious position relative to all other regions in North America. B.C. has a very low level of provincial debt to GDP (at 14 per cent), a balanced budget, a AAA credit rating, and the lowest levels of corporate and personal income tax in North America,” Macdonald said.
Sporting his trademark Daddy Warbucks haircut and demeanor, Macdonald did include two actual predictions in his UDI speech:
Macdonald acknowledged that the region is going through “a minor residential property correction,” which he predicted “will be in the range of 17.5 percent from what were momentary peak prices.”
And he predicted that as a result of pent-up demand, “Our market is going to experience a solid turnaround in sales volume and price stability. I think this point will occur around October 2009.”
However, Macdonald predicated those predictions on the May reelection of Premier Gordon Campbell’s BC Liberal government.
“So the question I offer is this: What matters more to us in forecasting our industry’s future in B.C.? Is it the shallow, short-lived recession facing us? Or is the greater danger the possible four-year election of a provincial political party, controlled in part by people who have drunk the Kool Aid laced with the cyanide of socialism?”
Macdonald said the New Democrats are a party beholden to “big public sector unions” that have been “taken over by a mixed bag of Marxist, Leninists, Trotskyites, Maoists and Castroites.”
The Urban Development Institute audience of more than a thousand Metro Vancouver real estate professionals responded with loud applause.
“It’s true,” Macdonald replied.
“These people take millions of dollars of their union members money without approval and then run a political campaign based on fudge-it budgets, phony jobs and timber accords and other lies – and with all of that they try to take over the government,” he continued.
Macdonald accused past NDP governments of “destroying the economic welfare of our province as a whole, and destroying the lives of decent, hard-working union and non-union people in the private sectors of this province.”
He said former Premier Mike Harcourt had committed “confiscatory thievery” in the form of a corporate capital tax, and said former Premier Glen Clark “and his fellow travelers set about to make B.C. their very own socialist utopia, just like Cuba.”
“These people destroyed our industry,” Macdonald told the UDI luncheon on Friday. “And they would destroy us again in a heartbeat.”
“This history is worth remembering, because now we have a lovely Carole James leading the NDP, who is the new smiling, shiny puppet of the left-wing ideologues,” he said. “And so my friends, we are fast approaching a fork in the road on May 12th. Where either a continued bright future, or a return to the dark times is a possibility.”
The UDI’s forecast panel also included presentations by Polygon Homes chairman Michael Audain and Colliers International VP Avtar Bains. Both expressed confidence in the Lower Mainland real estate market.
“This is the sixth housing market correction that I’ve experienced,” Audain said. “In all of it, I wish I’d taken more advantage of the buying opportunities that were available at those times.”
“There will be no collapse of the real estate market in Vancouver,” Bains said. “I will give you the Avtar guarantee.”
Both Audain and Bains expressed strong support for a multi-billion-dollar housing stimulus package in next week’s federal budget; neither used the word "Marxist" in their remarks.
Monte Paulsen reports on housing and politics for The Tyee.ca.




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NicS
4 years ago
UDI Puppet Of Right Wing Developer/Financiers
The same old stuff from the right-wing crackpots. And these same guys are supposed to be advising our City of Vancouer on how to best manage the mess that, essentially they created.
MacDonalds comments are closeted, sexist remarks that suggest that Carole James 'couldn't possibly be the real thing because she is a smiling woman'. A man who smiles however, is just one of the 'good ol boys'.
And this by now age old contention that only right-wing governments are capable of balancing a budget: 1)The last BCNDP Gov't had a balanced budget, along with the fast ferries. 2) The Bush bastards have almost bankrupt the USA. 3) BC is on the verge of a financial disaster that smells like an Olympic Giveaway, walks like an Olympic Giveaway and talks like an Olympic Giveaway. Yet all those involved from Peter Ladner to Sam Sullivan have tryed to hide the truth.
The truth is, that the likes of MacDonald can smell the blood that is about to be spilt and it is their own, and they are obviously running scared. I guess I would be to if the condos I just built dropped in price from 15-40% (in one day) because one local developer/builder "CAN" see the writing on the wall.
quarry bay
4 years ago
Seems to me.....
Robert Mcdonald is scared,why such a vile speech if the NDP are truly 14 points behind and the people believe Gordon Campbell is the great manager?
I will say it again,goverment and political hacks don`t shoot dead ducks,Campbell is scared because he and Mcdonald know the real poll numbers.
NDP 49%
Liberals 34%
Conservatives 6%
Green 5%
undecided 6%
Frank
4 years ago
Who knew?
I didn't realize one of my favourite Tyee posters was a land developer.
Good thing the NDP doesn't appeal to that group.
crh
4 years ago
"Both Audain and Bains
"Both Audain and Bains expressed strong support for a multi-billion-dollar housing stimulus package in next week’s federal budget; neither used the word "Marxist" in their remarks."
Oh please, when will those robber barrons finally admit that they could never 'go it alone'.
They are the first ones always in line for the latest handout of free land, relaxed rules, favoratism and corporate welfare (you know, socialism).
corrupted hypocrites make me want to puke
zalm
4 years ago
Such delightful comments
...from a delightful man, that Rob Macdonald. Clearly a man of his word.
http://www.savesaltspring.com/tex.html
Here's his statement from the 2007 version of the same UDI event.
Macdonald echoed his claim of a year ago that B.C. will go through an unprecedented "golden decade.
But he added municipal governments, which control land use, pose the biggest risk to developers because they are "attacking and undermining" the industry through their opposition to developments.
http://www.businessedge.ca/article.cfm/newsID/14520.cfm
Half those "professionals" won't be around in a year, no matter who is at the helm of the province. They'll be broke. But it's unlikely that MacDonald will be broke, having been given the gift of a major highway upgrade right past his front door in Brittania Beach.
Sometimes it pays to purchase your very own politician.
Luke Skywalker
4 years ago
Rhetoric...
Lol, I almost fell outta my chair reading that. The first thing that came to my mind was Vancouver mayor Tom "Terrific" Campbell's infamous quote from circa 1972, when he referred to hippy protesters as:
BTW, do any hamburgers post here??? :)
Rob's speech was certainly quite heavy on the rhetoric. One would expect same from the BC Fed's Jim Sinclair but Rob is Rob.
And the UDI crowd is comprised of a good chunk of moderate folk, not the ideological crowd. Even then:
Rob is one of the best in the biz and knows his stuff. Even Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson and his NDP muni-farm team, Vision Vancouver, have selected the UDI inclusive of Rob to oversee the Olympic Village matter. Politics certainly makes for strange bedfellows. ;)
http://www.francesbula.com/?p=1013
Political prognosticator and Mayor Robertson supporter Alex Tsakumis also had this to say about those UDI appointments:
As for Rob's anti-NDP rhetoric, it doesn't matter in any event. With the recent Mustel poll showing:
Lib - 47%
NDP - 33%
Grn - 16%
...as well as James relatively poor approval ratings vis-a-vis those of Campbell's ... the tea leaves have apparently already been set in place.
brg61
4 years ago
Mr MacDonald is still
Mr MacDonald is still fighting the cold war. How old is this guy? This dated political argument fell on deaf ears when John McCain was desperate and had nothing better to toss out.
Sadly the same vacuous prose dominates the mainstream media in B.C.
Curt
4 years ago
you decide
"If you make political discourse sufficiently negative, more people will become cynical and stop paying attention. That leaves more space for special interests to pursue their agendas, and that's how we end up with drug companies making drug policy, energy companies making energy policy and multinationals making trade policy."
And Urban Development Institute = real estate professionals/companies ...
Need I say more.
Gordon_Ramble
4 years ago
Gordon Campbell has made many mistakes
Gordon Campbell has made many mistakes, and there's many things I'd like to slap him across the face for... in fact, I'd like to put the boots to whoever sold BC Rail and BC Gas... but IMO Carole James severely lacks the skills (in several areas) to sucessfully navigate this province... Carole James aint no Gregor Robertson, not even close... IMO Carole James has about 50% of the brain power of Gregor Robertson.
G West
4 years ago
Carole James is decent, moral and honest
Gordon Campbell is not.
'Nuff said.
realisticman
4 years ago
Thank you Rob
What a relief! It's not just me. I've always considered myself to be left leaning but when I came to BC I thought I'd stumbled into a time warp. 1930s-type lefties were easily found fighting the same old battles and class wars that I hadn't heard about for decades. Such levels of intolerance, envy and distaste for success seemed strangely self-destructive in such a wealthy society that is also lavished in social benefits. How could these people be so negative when by all measures they are unquestionably one of the luckiest and richest society on earth?
G West
4 years ago
Tell it to almost 25% of the BC children
Who live their lives in poverty.
A statistic which hasn't improved during the same period that Campbell ran total provincial debt to over 50 billions.
The folks who're rich and lucky and happen to be Gordon's friends do very nicely - the rest of society - say 80% are losing ground or treading water in the same period.
What do you expect now that the economy is sinking like the Queen of North.
Campbell has run the ship of state aground on Gil Island - which is what happens when you have a narcissistic drunk at the wheel.
Gordon_Ramble
4 years ago
RE: Carole James is decent, moral and honest
I've seen Carole twist the truth more than once for the sake of political gamemanship... but dont get me wrong, Gordo aint no Angel either.
Vortigern1
4 years ago
Marxists, Leninists, Trotskyites, Maoists and Castroites?
Er... No. People of this persuasion are most definitely not in positions of power in the BC NDP. I've known some such people. They are the sort who protest NDP events on the grounds that the party is "pro-imperialist".
Van Isle
4 years ago
This fella McDonald is the
This fella McDonald is the 1st of many who will be coming out of the wood work in the next couple of months with the message that "liberal good" and "NDP bad" message. Can hardly wait for Michael Campbell's spin on things and be a featured talking head on Global/CKNW network. Bill Good has already done some discussions with twiddle dum and twiddle dee. (Palmer and Baldry)
Grumpy
4 years ago
Oh - A property pimp doesn't like the NDP........
....is that a newsflash?
No, its a statement from a slick-willy who wants make money from selling shoddy condos.
This recession/depression has its foundation in greed from the banks and financial houses. The screwed up badly screwing the little guy and the whole world is catching financial pneumonia.
American free enterprise id dead, just as Soviet style communism. Those who made millions or billions by making 'paper' profits are soon going the way of the DoDo bird. In the new economy, one has to produce not paper push.
I think May 2011 is the date when the wheels finally fall off the US economic cart. Just wait and see.
Skywalker
4 years ago
Loved the article.
Oh yeah some guy whose worth $100 million talks trash and I should believe him? He has the best interests of an average person in mind? Sounds like he has "a few kangaroos loose in the upper paddock". I guess Wilf and Bobby won't be whining here as they finally have an item they can agree with.
sunshine coast girl
4 years ago
Puh - leeze.....
"Or is the greater danger the possible four-year election of a provincial political party, controlled in part by people who have drunk the Kool Aid laced with the cyanide of socialism?”
Kool Aid laced with the cyanide of socialism? Is this guy for real? How much more offensive could you get?
You're right all. Most people's eyes glaze over when hearing this kind of crap. Good for us and a concrete sign of fear that the "glory days" are rapidly coming to an end for Gordo and his gang.
quarry bay
4 years ago
Gordon Campbell is on the verge....
A complete mental breakdown!
Gordon Campbell is now backtracking and waffling on a balanced budget.
BC is already in a huge deficit position Campbell knows it,Colin Hansen knows it.
Bill Good asked Campbell about a balanced budget yesterday on CKNW--Gordon Campbell refused to answer--Here comes the BC Liberal deficits---LOL
Listen yourself on the CKNW audio vault,listen to Campbell sound weak and puny on the radio
http://cknwam.corusradionetwork.com/emmis/AudioVault.cfm
Cue up 11.00 am january 23 pay special attention when Bill Good asks Gordon Campbell about a balanced budget/ it`s about 11.15 am
Cheers
sirjohna
4 years ago
what a great speech by mr.
what a great speech by mr. macdonald. a little extreme maybe, don't really think there are any trotskyites.
quarry bay
4 years ago
Puny and weak Gordon Campbell
Cue up 11.00 am---The Campbell fudge it-budget waffle is at 11.11 am to 11.14 am ---LOL LOL
I have never ever heard such a weak,puny,inefectual 3 minute wafflefest as the one displayed by EX-Premier Campbell on Cknw at 11.00 am hour on january 23rd/2009
Cheers
quarry bay
4 years ago
One more item
I think Gordon Campbell should put MacDonald`s speech on the BC Liberal web site.
Especialy the part about all the sissies complainig about losing jobs,losing assets,losing homes.
The "speech" by Robert Macdonald is exactly what Gordon Campbell and the BC Liberals think,"complainers are sissies"
How dare anyone complain about the economy,there are no problems,the un-employed,the hungry,the children need to suck it up and stop complaining,this is "real life" in a Gordon Campbell BC
The wimps,the thousands and thousands of BCers that are leaving the province in droves every month are nothing but wimps!
In fact,I think Robert Macdonald should be the one to present the next BC Liberal throne speech!
sirjohna
4 years ago
nice spin quarry. either
nice spin quarry. either that or you don't have the aptitude to understand the context of the statement.
Curt
4 years ago
Here we had what's been the
Here we had what's been the biggest boom for the economy. What have the lieberals left us? The biggest deficit in history. And they bitched about the NDP who left a surplus. What happened to all the $$$? I guess after you pay off the P3 contracts, privatization contracts, and the list goes on, along with the 40%+ wage increases to the bunch, as well as that 2 week party, things are going to get pretty tough.
And what do they want? ... a multi-billion-dollar housing stimulus package in next week’s federal budget; neither used the word "Marxist" in their remarks.
Yeah, governments can bail out business, and tough sh__ for the little guy. We, the lower/middle class need to take control of our governments.
We need an Obama in Canada.
quarry bay
4 years ago
BC Liberals lose both Burnaby ridings.....
Mondee Redman and Kathy Corigan are locks to win both Burnaby Liberal ridings.
Richard Lee and John Nuraney are toast!
Redman has won everything that she has run for.
Corigan`s do not lose in Burnaby.
Cheers S J
Here is the link
http://www.canada.com/burnabynow/news/story.html?id-badf48a8-1af7-403e-9b17-be884oc9ac0s
quarry bay
4 years ago
Here is that link ......
To the story about the next 2 NDP MLAs that are going to win in Burnaby.
http://www.canada.com/burnabynow/news/story.html?id=badf48a8-1af7-403e-9b17-be8840c9ac03
sirjohna
4 years ago
don't get your hopes up. we
don't get your hopes up. we the people won't turn the province over to the socialists and the special interest groups in this economy, even with all the olympic screw-ups.
Rod Smelser
4 years ago
ONLY IN BC
Only in BC would a speech as silly as MacDonald's be offered up at a trade association conference, and only in BC would it be considered newsworthy, and only in BC would it generate a long thread of comments.
Oops, ... I am making the mistake of adding to that last problem myself! I guess whatever's in the local drinking water affects us all.
realisticman
4 years ago
curt
Lots of little guys here:
"What your B.C. Government is doing for the Public Sector:
* In 2005, your B.C. government launched a new innovative negotiating framework that offered $5.7 billion through 2009/10, which included $1 billion for signing by March 31 2006.
* As a result, the Province reached 166 negotiated settlements representing 320,000 employees – or 99 per cent of the public service.
* This included the first ever negotiated settlement between the B.C. government and the BC Teachers' Federation.
* Agreements in place now will ensure public sector labour peace through the 2010 Olympics.
* B.C.'s public service is now on average the third-highest paid in the country."
labour Peace, brother.
Skywalker
4 years ago
Special Interest groups, sirjohna?
They did that in 2002 when they elected Campbell and the special interests groups have been laughing all the way to the Cayman Islands ever since. As for socialists, do you even know what a socialist is?
sunshine coast girl
4 years ago
Realisticman...
And we all know how much Gordo and his gang respect public service negotiated agreements, don't we?
Labour peace, brother?
G West
4 years ago
Worried - yep, he's worried!
Seems to me Rob Macdonald's public craziness is an indication that he and Campbell and their cronies are worried.
Once it was that only people like the CEO and the guys who 'own' him had the power to get their message out to the people...and, for the most part the communication was all one way - from the top dog down to the voters.
That era is over and places like Tyee give ordinary voters and citizens a chance to let the panderers know that it isn't working.
You no longer need hundreds of thousands of dollars and a soap box to get your message out and that makes the Gordon Campbells and the Rob Macdonalds of the world 'very' nervous.....
And the way they're succumbing to shrill stupidity and purblind lies is all the proof one needs to understand exactly how nervous they are.
Curt
4 years ago
Macdonald accused past NDP
Macdonald accused past NDP governments of “destroying the economic welfare of our province as a whole, and destroying the lives of decent, hard-working union and non-union people in the private sectors of this province.”
The Golden Decade:
Closed 1279 hospital beds 2002-2004
Increased wait times by 30% on average since 2001
Reduced home support services (cleaning, laundry and shopping) to
5600 residents requiring assistance in their homes.
Increased Pharmacare costs for 420,000 seniors.
Cut 17 drugs from Pharmacare.
Increased MSP premiums by 50%.
Cut over $200 million from programs for children and families under
the Ministry of Children and Family Development.
Eliminated the independent offices of the Child, Youth and
Family Advocates.
Eliminated the independent office of Mental Health Advocate.
Cut $50 million from child care.
Broke contracts with health science professionals, nurses, health
support workers and community social service workers legislated away key job protection rights previously provided under the Labour Relations Code to health care workers and community social service workers.
Cancelled a negotiated $2.5 million wage increase for community
social service workers, and then rolled back their wages by a further $40 million.
Rolled back wages of hospital support workers by 15%.
Fired 8,000 hospital workers (87% of hospital workers in B.C. are
women).
Privatized laundry, food, cleaning and other hospital services.
Privatization resulted in wages being cut to $9.50 to $11.00 an hour
with few benefits.
Reduced minimum wage from $8 to $6 an hour for new workers.
Cut 550 staff at Workers' Compensation Board.
Deleted one third of staff at the Employment Standards Branch.
Closed 113 schools.
Deleted 2,500 teachers (350 teachers because of declining enrolment;
the rest because of government cuts).
Broke contract with teachers.
Increased college and university tuition fees by 104%.
Cut training and apprenticeship programs.
Cut 1,200 staff between 2001 and 2004 from the 2 main ministries
dealing with the environment; Ministry of Water, Land and Air Protection, and the Ministry of Forests.
Cut regulations protecting the quality of drinking water.
Cut spending on wildlife protection and law enforcement to the lowest in 20 years.
Introduced parking fees in provincial parks, reduced provincial park
attendance by 25%
Privatized one third of BC Hydro to Accenture, a Bermuda based company.
Privatized B.C. Ferries, ferry fares increased.
Increased ICBC rates by an average 18.6% over the last 4 years.
Increased drivers' license fees.
Increased parks, hunting and fishing fees.
Cut taxes by $2.2 billion - the biggest benefit going to business and
the wealthiest.
Continues to close long term care beds.
mcdull
4 years ago
Not the lieberals
Now I've heard on that bastion of free enterprise NW that this is not the lieberals fault. It is the fault of the left that we are experiencing this downturn. Why on weekends and nightly at 5:24 we hear that it is always the lefts fault. No bias there.Then I hear that it is the Unions fault GM does't take the bailout. Course the managers are never at fault just the workers. This rush to develop that Campbell has encouraged had to break sometime and it will be the taxpayer left holding the bag not the developers.
Skywalker
4 years ago
realisticman 0, Curt 10
The game is over realisticman, you an go to the dressing room now. LOL