British Columbia health authorities will have to find another $319 million in cuts over the next few years to meet the government's budget projections, said NDP health critic Adrian Dix.
Recently released 2008-2009 service plans for the six health authorities show “dramatic cuts” will need to be made, he said. Vancouver Coastal Health Authority has a $200 million unfunded shortfall over the next two years and the Vancouver Island Health Authority's is $107 million.
“The balanced budgets in 2009/10 and 2010/11 exclude cost pressures of $91.1 million (2009/10) and $109.7 million (2010/11),” according to a note to the financial statements on page 33 of Vancouver Coastal's service plan.
VIHA's plan makes a similar statement.
The health authorities will either need more money than the government has budgeted, or they will need to make cuts.
“That will come in cuts after the election,” said Dix. Finance Minister Colin Hansen pitched the budget last week as designed to protect health care, Dix said, but in reality it fails to do that.
In December, the Tyee reported, the health ministry told health authorities to delay preparing their service plans for 2009-2010.
Andrew MacLeod is The Tyee’s Legislative Bureau Chief in Victoria. Reach him here.


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Curt
3 years ago
cuts and then some
Of course there will be cuts. They can't tell you that now because of May 12th, but look out after if they're re-elected. There will be a whole new budget. Just remember the lies and deceit that's been happening since 2001. Times are going to get even tougher for the average joe.
Gary
3 years ago
Average Joe is right
We won't see any added taxes for big business. What we will see is more corporate welfare. And there won't be just cuts to health. We'll see cuts to education and more than likely higher tuition fees. All while desecrating BC Hydro which in the past helped fund these ministries. Just remember, anything he promises in this election you can expect him to do the opposite. Just look at How Bad The Record has been for the last 8 years.
quarry bay
3 years ago
Your right Gary.....
Thank you,spread the word........
BC against Gordon Campbell in this election
realisticman
3 years ago
Throwing out babies
Sure, vote NDP otherwise the Liberals will surely be throwing babies out of hospital windows to save money for big business.
dorothy
3 years ago
Tell it like it is
"..otherwise the Liberals will surely be throwing babies out of hospital windows to save money.."
Maybe they will, and maybe they won't. What is certain is, that in the absence of any real information, imagination cannot be reined in. Why doesn't Campbell and buddies try to imagine, for the sake of argument, that they're dealing with adults who are not so dumb that they think they can eat their cake and have it too. Why don't they fess up up front, that they need to make cuts, so we can have a debate on it and reach a consensus? As long as they utterly disrespect us and remain cagey in their usual pathetic boy-school fashion, they deserve everything in the way of imaghinings on our part. The truth, and only the truth, will set us free.
quarry bay
3 years ago
Your wrong RMAN.....
There will be no baby tossing,there will be no more cuts,it is all over,the election is over,the Campbell reign of terror is over......
He has done his damage,the voters have spoken,I have seen the latest polls,I have seen internal Liberal polls,I have seen internal NDP POLLS, I know what the next Angus Reid poll says,it is all over RMAN/LUKE.
Campbell has thrown in the towel anyways,Gordon can`t run away fast enough,it will take decades to clean up this mess,some of it can never be cleaned up.
No more,the people have spoken,the public affairs can find new jobs or go on EI
I want to thank the TYEE for putting up with me and all my aliases,I will continue to hammer in more nails into Gordon Campbell`s coffin,but trust me,IT IS ALL OVER FOLKS!
Cheers
Quarry bay
Luke Skywalker
3 years ago
From This... To This...
dorothy:
quarry bay:
You seem like quite the well-connected dude.
So both I and, I'm sure, everyone else posting on here look forward to your posting those opinion poll results. ;)
The truth and only the truth will set you free.
And if ya know the results of the next Angus Reid poll, you are certainly quite the clairvoyant. :)
Otherwise, I will repeat my comment in a previous post: :)
quarry bay
3 years ago
Revenge is a dish best served cold.....
You might want to see how popular Cantelon is in Nanaimo....
Have a read.....
http://www2.canada.com/nanaimodailynews/news/story.html?id=2d7c7e94-202d-41d4-9c55-6321153af58e
Lets just say I have a few freinds,no I won`t post,I gave my word,be patient Luke,your light bulb will go on soon/ just remember Luke,your bosses are in the dark too,you have sold a bill of goods that isn`t worth squat.
I personaly don`t understand why Campbell didn`t resign rather than go this route,either way,matters not,the result is the same.
Of course he might have gone this route if he is over his head with the CORPORATION/
Skywalker
3 years ago
A new way to "double fudgit budget".
Isn't it just another way for them to fudge the budget. If they make expenditure projections in a budget and then after the election they say, "Oops we have to cut health care so we can meet certain artificial targets as our revenue is less than we thought' that sounds to me like election fraud. You think David Stockell will take them to court?
Skywalker
3 years ago
A new way to "double fudgit budget".
Isn't it just another way for them to fudge the budget. If they make expenditure projections in a budget and then after the election they say, "Oops we have to cut health care so we can meet certain artificial targets as our revenue is less than we thought' that sounds to me like election fraud. You think David Stockell will take them to court?
Wilfred Laurier
3 years ago
Eat these words....
"IT IS ALL OVER FOLKS!"
You will eat these words, man.
quarry bay
3 years ago
Alphabet soup?
MMMMM words,my favorite,has your light bulb lit up yet Wilfred?
Why so testy,don`t shoot the messenger,Campbell is the one throwing the election.
Phoney budgets,2 more hydro increases this spring,liquor taxes,ouch,cuts to public employees.
You must have heard about the giant rally in Burnaby over the prison,ouch,wouldn`t want to be a Liberal MLA in Burnaby.
What a mess in Surrey(where is that hospital that was supposed to open last year)oh yea,they haven`t started construction yet.tsk tsk tsk
Then there is that pesky evergreen line,construction when 2012 start,wow,completion when? 2016--2017 just around the corner.
Cantelon,I assume you read the story,Cantelon asked council to give Millennium more time for their hotel in Nanaimo,that only cost the city 2 million dollars,tsk tsk tsk
John Less?--Oppal?--Von dongen?--Delta riding?---Bloy?--Lee?--Nuraney?--Chong?--Coell?---Bond? LOL LOL--Krueger--LOL LOL---Black? too much
zalm
3 years ago
Before the rants get too vociferous
Health authorities have not been the best stewards of taxpayer dollars for some years now - first under the NDP and then in spades under the Fiberals.
The big business mentality has taken over since 1998 - make the institutions larger and larger and watch them save us money!
Unfortunately, health care doesn't operate like that. Larger institutions increase in complexity at exponential rates, and the care does not necessarily get better as care staff try to figure out the best way of achieving good medical practices inside a rigid and dogmatic business system.
Any system which includes more than 60 people on shift to tell patients where they need to go next is an inefficient system.
Get rid of all (or very nearly all) of the big hospitals! Restore the small ones, with focused centres of excellence and minimal complexity. Spend your money to share resources among hospitals, including human resources. Abolish business cases and get back to medical care. And seriously consider getting rid of the health authorities - they're all artificially in competition with each other - to make their own facilities shine, and to dump off the hard-to-manage cases to other authorities. Don't give them one more dime to overcome their deficits - they've wasted what they've already gotten!
We were on the right track in BC from 1991 - 1998 until some empire-building zealots got hold of the system again. This isn't political, either right or left - it's systemic, and its exceptionally harmful.
JStog
3 years ago
Is Adrian Dix predicting the NDP Loss...
Quarry Bay
I think your off the mark. The NDP's still a dinasaur from BC's past.
Of course the Goon Squads are ramping up slick smear campaigns for the coming election. Just what we don't need. We need solutions (Obama style) that work for everyone not just few a greedy unionist and some visionless parrots. The NDP's short sighted mis-management of the past is well remembered and documented. Carol James doesn't inspire confidence that anything is differant.
The BC NDP lacks a Visionary leader. Is there a Vision?
BC's future is reliant on long term sustainable planning, working together with First Nations and All who live here.
We need workable solutions, not political sluggfests as is currently under way.
I look forward to watching the upcoming media circus. It really makes no differance who runs government. The Provincial NDP will favour their wealthy friends and shaft the poor just like before. Nothing would change.
quarry bay
3 years ago
What do we have here.........
A new player,pretty snazzy post,lots of colour and lines,where`s the beef?
Are you Luke`s boss?,I know he is pretty blue.
Jstog,I know fuck all about typing and computers,but I knows lies,liars,and damn liars,your fancy colour schemes won`t scare me off.
You guys are like video games,did I just reach a diffrtent level,I suggest you complain to Gordon Campbell,he is the one throwing the election.
Perhaps Gordon doesn`t want to deliver on anymore blackmail,who knows.
Stog,you provided nothing,no proof,no facts,no data,just fancy red writing and some under-scoring(wow I am impressed)
So unless you have something to offer besides the "bad ole NDP"
Go fly a kite.
This is an award winning site,there are many classy people here,to many to mention by name and your not one of them.
It is like one of those video games,and the next level was a waste of time,bring on the substance.
quarry bay
3 years ago
It`s late and I feel like making........
Mince meat of Jstog post
Let us go over your sloppy dribble......
You state " Carole James doesn`t inspire confidence that anything is differant"
What does that statement mean? That isn`t how you spell different.!
You mention GOON SQUADS and we need solutions Obama Style,then you go about slagging the NDP from a decade ago?
And your dribble gets better,you state "not political slugfests" and "it really makes no differance who runs goverment" and then "nothing will change"
And then you bash the NDP again.
Your post is full of contradictions,spelling errors and......
If it doesn`t matter who runs goverment why are you bashing the NDP ?
I have to formaly apoligize to Luke Skywalker, sorry Luke.........
Jstog might have fancy red writing and underscoring but he is far beneath the quality of your posts Luke,you make no spelling errors and you usually supply some right wing nut job`s opinion.
And I apoligize for slagging you Jstog but you deserve it.
Stop pretending like Bill Good that you are nuetrol,it makes you look phoney and condescending,just like bill Good.
P.S. I make tons of spelling errors, but my judgement is almost flawless.
Back to spin school Jstog
Cheers
Quarry bay
JStog
3 years ago
Hmm Almost Flawless?
Cheers Quarry Bay
Scare you off... Haha Not a chance.
I'm glad you've admitted to Spamming TheTyee using all your aliases. Shows your true computer colors. Flawless eh!
Thanks... Again
Here's Your choice
Not mine.
Frank
3 years ago
JStog
"BC's future is reliant on long term sustainable planning, working together with First Nations and All who live here.
We need workable solutions, not political sluggfests as is currently under way."
Is there a new party around I haven't heard about? Because this certainly doesn't describe the Campbell Liberals.
quarry bay
3 years ago
Just one name at a time......
I again re-iterate to you Jstog ........
Where is the BEEF/ I am glad you have shown me a picture of your bi-cep tattoo/ You forgot the part about "I love mom"
Yes,and I have admitted that I am Gordon Campbell`s worst enenmy,I have been upfront and honest,I have a long list of greivences,The man`s policies,well lets just say he has blood on his hands.
I again repeat,the BC financial picture is so bad Campbell wants out,he is tossing the election and if you can`t see that buy some new glasses.
Why he isn`t resigning,I don`t know for sure,I suspect some sinister thing to do with the "corporation" like with gangs it is not that easy to get out,with politics,well,there are ways to get out,one is with the electorate.
I offered up reasons and anylsys,you offered up dribble and idealogue hatred towards Carole James.
Come back when you find the missing meat on that bone.
quarry bay
3 years ago
Here is some beef...........
Campbell apparently doesn`t care about the Hughes report,or any report period......
Campbell merely puts out the fires but like an asonist,he keeps lighting them....
http://www2.canada.com/nanaimodailynews/news/story.html?id=1326357
crh
3 years ago
I for one am looking forward
I for one am looking forward to having a woman premier for BC. I also look forward to having some honesty coming from that office.
I never could get over our drunk driving one.
quarry bay
3 years ago
Breaking news..........
Star candigate Arther Griffiths decides he will not be running for the BC Liberals......
Griffiths cites (personal issues) for his reason for not running,but we all here at the TYEE know why he isn`t going to run.....Because he will get wiped off the floor by the NDP rookies(internal polls confirm this)
And back to Burnaby (Nuraney is done)...
Nuraney tries to calm crowd,claims he will talk to Campbell about the prison site(to late)
http://www2.canada.com/burnabynow/news/story.html?id=2f921f4a-c4da-427b-abff-e6c5bd96238e
JStog
3 years ago
Vote None of the above
Hi Frank
No I wish there was a choice. I'd vote "none of the above"
if that was on the Ballot.
Quarry Bay
Nice report or Pre-election broadcast. But where's Carol James's Plan? Will she do anything different? How? Squawking is not a Plan or solution.
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-4647245/The-NDP-regime-in-British.html
Why did the BC NDP fail?
Remember BingoGate....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bingogate
Charity-Gate is just around the corner and its much bigger.
Luke Skywalker
3 years ago
quarry bay...
Firstly, to Vaughn Palmer's column today in regards to Bernard Schulmann's transposition of votes and analysis, which I previously posted.
With 43 seats needed to win, the Liberals actually have 34 [not 32] safe seats (including Vernon Monashee with a 10% margin and Delta South with either a Liberal or a quasi-Liberal winning the seat).
The NDP only have 18 such safe seats.
Vaughn makes a good theoretical point about the NDP winning the election even if the Libs win the popular vote by 1% or 2%. Why? The Libs have a lot of wasted votes and win by wide margins in many of their ridings.
But with Mustel showing a 16% spread, the current reality is much different.
Bernard Schulmann also provides for some further analysis:
http://bciconcoclast.blogspot.com/2009/02/look-at-may-12th-election.html
Re-read the foregoing a few times so ya understand its entire meaning.
As for Arthur Griffiths, he decided quite awhile back that he will not be running in 2009. Why?
Under the scenario with the Liberals winning 65 seats to 20 for the NDP, the new Vancouver West-End riding was one of those 20 slam dunk NDP seats, notwithstanding the NDP now also has a bit of an incumbency bounce thereto.
quarry bay
3 years ago
HI LUKEY.....
Oh I read Vaughn Palmers column last night,I posted the link in the hook story below but............
You are spinning (Linda),if you read what Vaughn stated,not your usual selective picking,maybe you missed this from Vaughn`s column.....
Here is the quote from Vaughn Palmer .....
" and from my reading of the analysis,electoral redistribution has improved the NDP`s chances of making every vote count and winning a majority of seats,even if they don`t necessarily lead the opinion polls or win the popular vote, I`ll have more to say about those propects in a subsequent column"
Nice try Luke,I am wayyyyy ahead of you.
Jstog,your a little late to the game aren`t you,don`t forget fast ferries and Clark`s little deck, I also saw Glen Clark pull the wings off of a fly!And didn`t Glen Clark double dip his chip in the salsa?
Are you for real!
Luke Skywalker
3 years ago
quarry bay...
Well... my statement:
... totally jives with Vaughn's statement:
Reading comprehension is not your best suit, is it? :)
Frank
3 years ago
4 more years
Stephen Harper and Gordon Campbell have done such a great job with the economy, children, open government and the environment so far why would anyone even want to replace them?
One can only imagine how much more they can do in the years ahead given their current records.
After all, this has to be rock bottom right? So there's no where to go but up.
quarry bay
3 years ago
More angry people.......
People are angry,you can`t undo that......
http://www2.canada.com/albernivalleytimes/letters/story.html?id=0b8f1a3e-954c-455d-8916-931d7c8043f1
And I mean lots of angry people.
http://www2.canada.com/albernivalleytimes/letters/story.html?id=4bdce010-c485-42f3-ad15-7e10376ebaf7
quarry bay
3 years ago
Lukey......
Here you are praising Vaughn`s column in one breath and in the next you are cutting Vaughn down?
You can`t have it both ways,well I guess you can in your mind!
I think Vaughn must have been reading our banter and he has tried to set the record straight but I digress.
I can read quite well,your insulting me above makes absloutely no sense at all,your statement is nothing but FLUFF
Maybe you should go argue with Vaughn?
Who cares if Campbell gets 70% of the vote in west Vancouver/
Your analysis of why Arther Griffiths is not running is really scrapping the bottom of the Barrell,he got trounced in the bi-election,he doesn`t want to get trounced again.
Luke,you can do better than that......
As I stated,the Liberals are crumbling by the minute,even their star candigates are running for the hills.
The Liberal volcano is dormant,just a little stale gas left.
Cheers
Quarry bay
quarry bay
3 years ago
Luke..........
If you believed Campbell was going to win alllll those seats you wouldn`t be here.
You can fib to me but you can`t fib to yourself.
And besides all this back and forth,the NDP are leading in the opinion polls.
Lets just say I have no faith in the west Vancouver MLAs business partners polling outfit,and it was a little strange that a polling outfit would have a poll 3 weeks from their last one.(unless someone WANTED BREAKING NEWS on the CUTTING LEDGE)lol
Luke Skywalker
3 years ago
quarry bay...
I need my daily political fix and the Tyee is the only website that provides same. :)
Opinion polls are released in a flurry during the pre-election phase... be it federal or provincial.
Here's the flurry leading up to May, 2005:
http://esm.ubc.ca/BC05/polls.php
Hopefully there will be more of 'em this time around. ;)
I really believe that you need to come out of your fantasy-world, come down to earth, and have a reality check.
But man, I look forward to your comments on here on the eve of May 12/ May 13. I almost feel sorry for you. :(
quarry bay
3 years ago
Luke.......
As I stated,my mission is accomplished and after may 12th/2009 you will never here me mention Gordon Campbell or the BC Liberals again!
A brand new chapter will be written,a new hope,the sun will rise once again,yesterdays nightmare will be nothing more than a distant memory.
Quarry bay
Frank
3 years ago
Bad example
"I almost feel sorry for you. :("
To put this in perspective Luke said he felt sorry for me last Spring when I said I didn't have money invested in the stock market :)
"But man, I look forward to your comments on here on the eve of May 12/ May 13"
and
"You will eat these words, man."
To put these quotes in perspective you have to recall that although Luke and Wilf's federal Liberals had their worst showing of all time they both ignored that and instead attacked the NDP showing as not being good enough.
So if you do show up here again after the May election and don't mention the Liberal victory there's not much either of them can call you on.
quarry bay
3 years ago
More breaking news.........
Extra extra read all about it,judge Bennett has ordered the release of 8000 seized documents on the BC Rail Case!
YES indeed,
http://www.theprovince.com/Seized+Rail+documents+ordered+released+judge/1328639/story.html
Luke Skywalker
3 years ago
Oh Wow...
BC Rail... you still care about that stuff after all of these years?
With the BC forest sector in the dumps that train-set must be bleeding red-ink big time for CN.
And my oh my, it looks as if the government lawyer approved their release.
Now you can go down to the courthouse and look through the 8,000 pages.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5hXkr2V5vaU6W6qOHFAz1G5BlAviQ
Frank:
Go find my quote. More likely I stated that I didn't believe ya if ya didn't have any equity holdings either through an RRSP or Mutual Funds, or indirectly through CPP. ;)
quarry bay
3 years ago
Now your getting it Luke......
You have finally admitted that Gordon Campbell`s forestry policies have decimated a once proud vibrant industry......
And we know you want BC Rail to go away,so does Campbell,but it isn`t going away,it won`t be swept under the carpet.
Maybe Gordon Campbell should should just state on the record that no one cares about BC Rail anymore,water under the bridge,sa la vie
Just like he doesn`t care about paramedics or the 9000 female workers who were fired (illegally) in 2002!
I guess Campbell really doesn`t know what anti-bullying day really means!
Considering he is the all time biggest bully Canada has ever seen.
Frank
3 years ago
Luke
"More likely I stated that I didn't believe ya if ya didn't have any equity holdings either through an RRSP or Mutual Funds, or indirectly through CPP. ;)"
It wasn't a case of "not believing" me. It was a case of "feeling sorry" for me because I said I didn't own any stocks in any type of vehicle. (CPP obviously doesn't count since its not my money)
It was the climax of the argument after you were surprised by the stats showing how little 90% of Canadians had invested. "Feeling sorry" was apparently your comeback to that.
And as I said about the federal Libs, you and Wilf had no problem showing your face here after the federal election and previous claims (by Wilf) of Dion being Canada's next prime minister, so I doubt QB has anything to worry about if the election doesn't go the way he would like.
On the other hand, if you really do want to say you feel sorry for someone there's the kids living in poverty in this province, the kids under gov't supervision being abused, the homeless, the jobless etc.
quarry bay
3 years ago
Frank........
I didn`t say I wouldn`t be here to comment,I said I would never mention Gordon Campbell and the BC Liberals again/after may 12/2009
Frank,you might not recall but Luke bet me 10.000.00$ that Gordon Campbell`s Liberal were going to win both bi-elections last fall,we all not how well that worked out for him!
Only to have Luke comment (with a whimper) about poor turn-out being the cause of the BC Liberal defeat.
So according to my math(not that i am a accountant) I am ..... 1 to Luke`s 0 (zero)
Frank,it isn`t about confidence,it`s about the people,this election isn`t NDP against Liberals,it`s about BCers against Gordon Campbell,and Luke will never understand that.
The bi-election results were mostly about voters REFUSING to VOTE for CAMPBELL....
This will play out all over the province.
Quarry bay