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Prorogue Revolt Based on False Beliefs

Why demand MPs go back to work if they can't do real work once there?

By Rafe Mair, 15 Feb 2010, TheTyee.ca

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Next time, march to give elected reps real power.

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Now that the prorogue issue is behind us, it may be a good time to examine how Parliament works -- and, more importantly, how it doesn't work. What I have to say may sound cynical, but I say it's simply an unpleasant truth.

During the rallies on the prorogue issue, it became apparent that while the protesters had every reason to be angry at a very arrogant prime minister, it was for the wrong reason.

The demand was that MPs go back to work. But that supposes that when MPs are in the House they are working -- and that when they're not, they're lollygagging on a warm beach somewhere.

Well, when they're in the House they are busy but they sure as hell aren't working -- at least not for the people.

Your civics teacher was wrong

The ultimate power is the House of Commons. This is what we are wrongly taught in school.

Remember how we were told that "responsible government" meant that the government -- the prime minister and cabinet -- were "responsible" to the House of Commons who could toss them out any time they wished?

If that were true, then surely there would be an example of this happening.

In fact, you have to go back to the "Pacific scandal" of 1873 to see a majority government pulled down by MPs. This was caused by an enormous scandal where Macdonald and his colleagues were alleged to have "sold" railway rights for contributions from the railway men to the Conservative party. This is, in my research, the only time such a thing has occurred -- and it was at a time when party discipline was not nearly as complete as it is now.

Behind the façade of democracy

We must conclude, then, that in the real world the House of Commons has the right to being down a government on paper, but not in fact.

Why is this so?

It's because the MP owes his position and his political future to the party. If MPs are backbenchers, they want to be in cabinet -- or at least parliamentary secretaries -- and that only comes to good little boys and girls. Needless to say, those who serve in cabinet or as parliamentary secretaries want to stay there or be promoted.

MPs that want goodies for their constituency know that the Sam Rayburn, former leader of the U.S. House of Representatives, was right when he said "to get along, you must go along."

The House of Commons has, within its rules, the power to set up parliamentary committees to examine what the prime minister and cabinet are doing. These committees are actually set up, but here's the rub -- the majority of them are on the government side, and therefore are appointed by the prime minister as the chair, with the exception of the Finance Committee. In a committee, the "whip" is all about "doing what you're told, or else." It will come as no surprise to you to learn that committees tend to be "make this work" projects.

The plain and simple fact is that MPs do as they're told.

Mighty minorities

What about "minority" governments?

It's true that they can be brought down by a majority of MPs. However, they are often "saved" -- not because their good works entitle them to it, but because it's not in the interests of the other parties to have an election. This is because, loosely translated, they just don't have the money.

A word about minority governments. Supporters of our antiquated and unfair electoral system never tire of telling us that "nothing is done" and that majority governments are a vital necessity. Thinking that mantra through, it's obviously saying that instead of the government having to persuade MPs to support a policy, it's just better if the prime minster has the power to cram it through.

How to get serious and fix democracy

There are two obvious solutions to this dilemma -- one of which is hard, and the other easy.

The hard solution is proportional representation, which gives minority parties the ability to elect MPs -- virtually assuring a minority government where parties must convince a majority of MPs of the wisdom of their policies.

The easy one is to give MPs the great protection that electors have -- a secret ballot. Now, that would put the cat amongst the pigeons. The rule would remain that the government would only be obliged to resign on a budget matter or one accepted as a "confidence" motion. And what's the argument against this again?

It has been pointed out that under this option, we won't know how our MPs voted. But we only know that under our present system because the MP must always vote as he is told.

If we, as a society, consider that regular people ought to be able to cast their votes free from outside pressure, promises of rewards, and penalties, why would we deny that same protection to those we elect to speak for us?

Free the MPs!

It's been said that no government could do business if it could easily be outvoted.

Stuff and nonsense. The rule would be that only a lost vote on a budget matter or vote of confidence would compel a government to resign. But think on the plus side.

Governments would actually have to make their case -- not simply go through the motions until the rubber stamp vote is taken. Imagine, you and I would have the full picture -- not the picture filtered through government spin doctors. MPs would have power and personal dignity, and why shouldn't they? Why should an intelligent person be forced to do precisely as they are told, speak only in government bafflegab, and pretend to their constituents that they actually did something other than playing a rubber stamping role in Parliament?

Our choice is between a five year dictatorship of a prime minister and his unelected men in gray, or a five year dictatorship of a parliament free to govern as it deems best and submitting every five years to a careful examination of its actions by the voting public.

My suggestion would work like a powerful cleanser -- but it will never happen in a country whose voters still believe, contrary to all the evidence, that their MPs have meaningful power.  [Tyee]

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  • estero mtn

    1 year ago

    Parliament

    Right on, Rafe. I much prefer the proportional representation option for improving parliament's functionality, though it will be difficult to achieve. I do recognize the value of the secret ballet, but it also has a potential downside; MPs' actions would not be transparent to their constituents, and a wrongly-motivated MP could mouth with vigour and apparent conviction the words most of us want to hear, while voting to support a corporate agenda.

  • alive

    1 year ago

    wishfull thinking

    Rafe, you have one good idea:
    "The easy one is to give MPs the great protection that electors have -- a secret ballot".

    Still any protest is valid, and if the average voters does not comprehend the system it should still be obvious, that Harpo stepped in do-do this time.

    Propo rep is not going to happen as long as the media is paid to badmouth it.

    What is really needed is an educated public, and that is a joke.

  • edh

    1 year ago

    secret ballot ?

    From time to time over the years there has been the occasional slip about our "secret ballot" not being so secret. I suspect that there are way's to find out how certain segments of our society vote and in some circumstances there may be the possibility of a political party finding out how indiduals vote.

  • Skywalker

    1 year ago

    Right on...but.

    The only point I would disagree with is that a Minority government should not be able to escape the wrath of the majority of MP's by running to the Gov. Gen. to prorogue the house. You didn't mention this but I believe that is not his/her function. Minority governments should be a very tenuous mandate. As for the rest Rafe, you are right on!

  • F. Rheatard

    1 year ago

    yes, rafe, good point

    Rafe, you hit the nail on the head here, for me anyway. I was wondering why this supposedly epic anti-proroguing protest seemed to be missing this elephant in the room in their rush to be angry and say how corrupt Harper is. Why didn't it occur to these guys that this Harper prorogue is not so much a Harper issue but an issue of our parliamentary style of democracy.

    Until we advance our voting system, as almost ever other liberal democracy in the world has, to some progressive form of prop-rep, we are going to be left voicing our true dissent by way of silly Facebook protests. And by the way, where is this epic groundswell of protest now? I knew they'd shoot their wad in the cross-country rallies, they roll over and go to sleep.

  • Van Isle

    1 year ago

    Has anybody been paying

    Has anybody been paying attention? I don't think so. People have been on a slow boil in the last 10 to 15 years over how our governments have been operating as you alluded to Rafe. The proroguing of parliament by Harper just shows how our politians have contempt for us. He did it by a phone call to the Governor General. He did it Dec 31st while most MPs had gone home or were on vacation somewhere. He didn't care what people thought. The demonstrations last month were just that; a sign to our politians to show them that we're pissed-off.

  • Dukeboy

    1 year ago

    Prorogation::

    You have it wrong, Rafe: We are protesting not because we want them back to work as you are suggesting, the protest is because Harper prorogued parliament to get away from the Afghan detainee issue! Th thought that it would go away because of the delay and the Olympics but we won't let it. We fully intend to hold his feet to the fire on it!

  • Mountain_Villager

    1 year ago

    Make the most of those MP's with brains!

    It's shocking that any intelligent man or woman should be expected to toe the mark in every vote - But to add to the secrecy in the House?
    What is wrong with having "free votes" except when the question's topic is critical to the platform of "ruling" party? On "Free Votes," I have heard that in the days before party whips in BC that chaos reigned and that parties came out of need for clear stands. Still, the Government's signifying a free vote or note would alert the public to the UNDERLYING need for compulsion - and we could ask our MP to demand a free vote to clear the subversion. As for secret votes, at least with the hands up we can all see where the MP does stand on an issue and hold him/her to account!

  • samuidave (not verified)

    1 year ago

    Thank you , Rafe Mair

    you may recall I made a request of you to do an article of our much needed political reform a month or two back, and here it is. I agree proportional representation leaves us with a broken system of partisan politics and voting on party lines.

    I had not considered a secret vote; always a free vote. But your suggestion comes from having worked inside and realizing free is only a word if influence from above still governs your vote.

    One other solution, albeit radical, and that is to disband all politic parties and make the elected MPs/MLAs directly accountable to their constituents. Of course little blocs or coalitions would tend to form, but at the end of the day the job is always on the line back home. Consensus building, rather than partisanship, would be the name of the game.

    Similarly, the PM would get chosen from the elected MPs.

    Thanks for the good read.

  • Des

    1 year ago

    Well-said, Rafe,

    but government of the people also depends upon their consent which is often distorted by political leaders to their own advantage by deception. Proroguing is a necessary method of changing the timetable of government, but is being distorted in its purpose by the present PM with the excuse that since the other fellows did it then it must be OK for him. That is the reason for the protests.

    We may need to change our election system in order to keep up with the times - increased population, instant communications, etc. - but what we need most is the ability to see what we are voting in and to change our votes individually if the first- past-the-post election does not achieve a majority. Then the majority government can proceed without using deceit and the minority opposition can offer real alternatives without appearing to object for the sake of just objecting.

  • Des

    1 year ago

    Well-said, Rafe,

    but government of the people also depends upon the consent of the people, which is often distorted by political leaders to their own advantage by deception. Proroguing is a necessary method of changing the timetable of government, but is being distorted in its purpose by the present PM with the excuse that since the other fellows did it then it must be OK for him. That is the reason for the protests.

    We may need to change our election system in order to keep up with the times - increased population, instant communications, etc. - but what we need most is the ability to see what we are voting in and to change our votes individually if the first- past-the-post election does not achieve a majority. Then the majority government can proceed without using deceit and the minority opposition can offer real alternatives without appearing to object for the sake of just objecting.

  • Adam M

    1 year ago

    Education

    It would be nice if our elementary and high schools had mandatory civics classes... junior parliaments and the like as a requirement of school. It really does take some education to run a proper democracy.

    I also think it would be cool if some savvy political science professor got together with some organizers to host some free, practical civics and politics courses... maybe open air, in the summertime! Nothing too heavy, just elementary stuff so people have a strong practical idea of how government works, and most specifically, how government can be influenced, and how it is done by special interests of all kinds. Knowledge is power, after all, and "free" has such a nice ring to it!

  • sicntired

    1 year ago

    passing the buck

    I have had occasion to write to several MP's over several different issues and the longer they have been in power the quicker they pass the buck.I have never found them to be helpful but they always are quick to write back whenever an election is close.The lone exception was Bill Siksay of the NDP who actually did work trying to get gravestones for veterans at the mountainview cemetary.Like all things nothing was done in the end which means that men who fought for this country are resting in unmarked grave sites.I hope those dying in Afghanistan are being treated with more dignity.We already have plenty of evidence that our current government doesn't care about Canadians once they leave the country.That is unless there is a political gain to be had.Photo ops seem to count for more than life to Mr.Harper.

  • peacenik

    1 year ago

    Secret Ballots in the House of Commons: Back to pre-1837

    The problem we currently have is that our parliamentary based responsible government has become ineffective and theoretical because of the overlay of a presidential-like quasi-executive PMO and Cabinet. The remedy proposed is secret ballots on parliamentary votes. This, in my opinion would be curing the disease by killing the patient. It would be transferring the lack of accountability that the PMO and the Cabinet have to the House of Commons directly to the electorate. The individual members would lose all accountability to their electors. The reason given for this is that it would "free" MPs from party discipline. I think it would do the opposite. MPs could be elected on a platform, but could never be held accountable for implementing it, never be accountable for how they stood on an issue. Effectively, we would return to the pre-1837 days of the Family Compact. It also unfairly targets the party system as a problem: beware of unwanted consequences when "solving" a problem unless it can be illustrated that it really 'is' a problem.
    It's proposed that the easy way is to make parliamentary votes into secret votes and that the hard way is to come to a system of proportional representation. I agree with a system of proportionality, but I think that it is not directly at the centre of the current issue of prorogation. It is related and I agree that proportional representation would greatly help in re-balancing our democracy, but prorogation - or more particularly the abuse of the right to ask the Governor-General for prorogation - is something that the House of Commons can deal with without a full re-structuring.
    We have to keep the pressure on that this happens. The NDP have said that they will present something to the House. They have yet to indicate or release what that is. The Liberals, to their credit, have released a position, but it is very inadequately full of loopholes so that it effectively maintains the status-quo - with one significant and important addition: the continuation of parliamentary committees during prorogation.

  • Barryeng

    1 year ago

    Do away with Paries

    I agree with samuidave. The best solution would be to do away with all political parties, even the one I usually vote for. That would make the our politicians directly accountable to us, not their leaders.

    Since that is not going to happens without the kind of opposition the Americans are now facing against health care reform, the next best solution is a secret ballot. In the end that might just accomplish the same end, and do away with the obstructionist political party system we now endure.

    The third option, proportional representation, is not going to happen for a long time, and even if it does, it is just continuing the problems that we now face. In the end this option would accomplish little to fix the problems we now have.

    I go for option 1.

  • Ordinary Canadian

    1 year ago

    An educated public

    I most certainly agree that our system is broken but I strongly reject the idea the 'proportional representation' would do anything to fix it. I see no evidence from countries where it is implemented that indicates a great increase in the number of people who bother to vote, nor any significant increase in electorate satisfaction with government policy. Secondly if we who read and write here can understand what makes us think others could not. It reminds me of the idea of women being denied the vote due to their inability to comprehend. What we need is a chance to exercise our vote where it really counts. Let each party present a budget and allow us to choose the one we want. See how many people vote and make us live with our choices.

  • ASKBiblitz.com

    1 year ago

    Prorogue unsustainable aboriginal subsidies

    In view of Canada's growing number of people with disabilities, including many injured workers who somehow - but how, exactly? - increasingly fail to qualify for WCB benefits, it's time to prorogue not Parliament but the unsustainable funding of aboriginals, who don't contibute to the public treasury.

    Here's a two-stage proposal to help things along:

    1. First, issue a deadline for the settlement of any outstanding land claims after which only those of us who do contribute to the public treasury may compete for programs and subsidies available equally to all qualified applicants, and

    2. Resolve never, ever again to create, subsidize or participate in any program or service intended exclusively to benefit aboriginals. We can't afford the inevitable lawsuits when a recipient/beneficiary is somehow disappointed or injured, and it's clear Canada is incompetent to run any such program effectively. Let's stop trying.

    In my view, the residential school settlements, which even at this early stage have already pretty much taken out organized religion in Canada, must signal the end of a miserable relationship of enforced dependance created by an ancient document, the Royal Proclamation of 1763, whose drafters could not possibly have contemplated the obligations it's created for successive generations of taxpayers. Surely there was an expectation that after a reasonable period of war reparations, recipients would become self-sufficient as settlers did or did not, as the case may be. Nowhere in history have conquerors assumed such massive obligations for an indefinite period.

  • Ed Seedhouse

    1 year ago

    ASKBiblitz, We are all,

    ASKBiblitz, We are all, right now, in actual fact, being subsidized heavily by the aboriginal peoples whom we stole this land from. For 10,000 they lived on the land we make our living from and kept it whole.

    Now we are gaining what we imaging to be "wealth" by destroying much of that heritage they left us.

    Your comment is, therefore, pig-ignorant, offensive, and deeply racist.

  • crankypants

    1 year ago

    Interesting idea Rafe

    First to EDH. I have worked elections in the past, and there is no way anyone knows who voted what unless only one person voted at a particular poll or every ballot cast at a poll was for the same candidate.

    The secret ballot for both MPs and MLAs would work as long as we are stuck with the party system. But there should also be some sort of proportional representation. We should never be in a position where we in effect elect a dictator, and at present any time we elect a majority, we do so.

    The problem is that the electorate does not choose how we are governed. The rules we live by are those set down by those that run the asylum.

    I still prefer that political parties be outlawed. They are really nothing more than gangbangers in suits. Think about it, a political party has a leader as does a gang. MPs/MLAs suck up to the leader to advance their standing in the party/gang. Political parties have whips and gangs have enforcers to keep the make sure the subordinates toe the line. Political parties are not above coercion and intimidation to get their way, as are gangs. Etc., etc.

    As things sit now, the electorate has about as much influence on its governance as the slaves did many years ago. Virtually none!

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