OMG!

The right wing complaining about our right wing media? It seem to be the end of all things!

Astounding

This is astounding! What caused Mr. Spector to suddenly acknowledge these facts? I will assume it is his conscience at work, and I offer my congratulations. May others follows his lead. Like most people, I am concerned about what is REALLY happening, not what a tiny number of media companies think is happening. And global climate change is real, whether you are rich or poor, liberal or conservative. Thanks again Tyee and Richard Warnica for keeping BC informed.

Oh no..

Oh No..

Norman musta went through the wrong door and sipped from the Leftie Punch Bowl...

Defending Carole JamessssZ-Z-Z-Z-ZZZZ ?

Is nothing sacred ?

Oh ...I get it, tomorrow is VALENTINE'S DAY " flowers and chocolates " to Belinda Stronach.

What's really news ...

is how astoundingly complacent we as a population have been in the face of political and media complicity to manipulate 'environmental' news. The tactics employed by government and media big and small include outright supression of information, gross distortion, elimination of key facts, and biased reporting and editorializing. The biggest fish in the pond, Canned West, have controlled this shell game for years with special editorial influence exerted by the Fraser Institute and other neo-con organizations. Others have merely followed suit.

Oh, there's been the occasional peep, even public forums, like the 'Take Back the News' forum years ago when then-Sun Managing Editor Scott Honeyman took the hot-seat and lied to a hostile SRO crowd at Robson Place that environmental coverage in Sun wasn't biased. Then I remember 6 years ago when the Sun was caught distorting information about climate change by NASA scientist James Hansen - by Hansen himself.

No, the spin and distortion isn't accidental, but when are we going to wake up and do something more about it besides kvetch and wring our hands?! It's odious what they doing. And I'm just bracing myself for today's brazen trumpeting of Campbell's 'Green' throne speech.

And for the record, the NDP has been asleep at the switch for almost two years on enviro issues and especially on climate change. Doesn't surprise me, just look at their record, 1991 - 2000.

Truth-talking is always welcome, even if surprising.

I hate when Norman Spector starts Truth-talking and suddenly turns my world on its ear.

He did the same thing more than 3 years ago, when (on air with Moe Sihota) he spoke about the police raid on the B.C. Legislature, naming some of the B.C. LINO electioneering practises as "criminal" ... never to be heard from again on the subject.

Who is this guy, anyway? And more's the point, how do we persuade him to keep on Truth-Talking?

Getting Norman to be more voluble

Mention Robert Fisk, or get Antonia Zerbisias to write a column about the news from Al Jazeera.

That usually gets Norman wound up to warp speed in about half a second. Problem is, he usually burns out in a flash and vanishes in a puff of smoke.

Sound and fury, symbolizing nothing, Norman likes calling people names, he's a lot like some Tyee posters.

I think we're being had

Man-made advocates go to great lengths to highlight the fact that transnational oil giants such as Exxon-Mobil offer thousands of dollars for reports aimed at disproving the UN theory, claiming this taints any opposing viewpoint as biased, and yet conveniently ignore the fact that it was the U.N. itself and Ted Turner, a man-made devotee and advocate of drastic population reduction to save the planet, who gifted the organization $1 Billion which in part funded the IPCC report. Is that not biased? Is that not a example of scientists being lavishly bankrolled to produce evidence that fits a pre-conceived outcome? Is the fact that a carbon tax fueled by fear of climate change that will go directly to assorted U.N. agencies itself a commentary on the U.N.'s role on hyping man-made global warming?

In addition, Greenpeace are recruiting "global warming field organizer's" whose job it is to lobby members of Congress to push the agenda for man-made global warming. So if you thought your donation was going to help save whales or protect the rainforest you're sorely mistaken - it's partly funding a PR assault that will eventually orbit right back to you in the form of a draconian carbon emissions tax that will do nothing to prevent global warming but will fill the pockets of global government and the U.N.

Not all scientists were prepared to sacrifice their impartiality to be in on the scam. Dr. Chris Landsea resigned from the IPCC in his own words because, “I personally cannot in good faith continue to contribute to a process that I view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being scientifically unsound.”

Landsea is one of many climate experts, meteorologists, geologists and others who have braved the scorn of the flat-earthers to point out that man-made advocates have utilized myopic and blinkered scientific trickery to make their case.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/130207globalwarming.htm

No Change

Spector has always supported the Kyoto accord, in principle, the implementations have been where Spector has argued.

This entire piece is just a continuation of this approach since Coal Fired generation is much worse than expanding the capacity of existing Hydro projects. It just takes less time to bring the new Coal units online than it does to re-engineer existing Hydro units, or to build similar capacity wind or tidal projects.

So nothing new from Spector, just that Warnica has finally noticed.

Spector's in the Center

...I'd say, or center right, at "worst".
He has moderate, often sensible views on a great many issues from what I've gleaned from his columns and his news digest style blog, which, BTW,I'd recommend to anyone. It's an excellent daily digest of news articles and op/eds from a large variety of news sources, Canadian, American, and European.
Spector must spend half the night and half the day poring over news sites, and posting article links and excerpts on his blog! An admirable service, I'd say, beyond the call of duty.

I see no evidence that Norm in any way a cheerleader for or sympathizer of Harper's Tories, least of its Reform/Alliance
wing.

However, I'm glad to see Spector has dropped (for now)his campaign of vilification against the "Prince of Pot",as he calls him, Marc Emery.

It seemed as if Norm would have been happy if he could do his bit to help get Emery extradited to the US on charges related to cannabis seed sales. The US is a jurisdiction where Emery might rot in jail for life, because the US has the most draconian drug laws in the western world. Oddly, it wasn't anti-drug hysteria though driving Spector's multi-pronged attack against Emery. He otherwise shows no tendency to any strong anti-drug leanings, that I can see. No, it was essentially (as far as I could tell) all because Emery (and some other online commenters at Emery's web site) had used some ill-chosen references to the ethnicity of the then Solicitor General who was overseeing his extradition case.

I'm not Emery's biggest fan, but that was Spector's low point in my view,
where he did appear as a right wing law and order zealot, though the real issue bugging Spector, was something quite different, apparently.

...Back to the article topic: I noticed recently that the National Post is still happily posting "opinion" pieces by some out-and-out global warming deniers, as if
such a position still has much credibility.
That might be okay if the other 95% of N.P coverage of the issue considered g.w. a serious problem requiring effective measures. But Canwest's coverage does not do that, but reveals a counter agenda, instead.

I'd say the downplaying of the NDP announcement reflects both Canwest's pro-BC Libs/anti-NDP stance, as well as their
agenda to downplay the threat of g.w. in general.

May Canwest continue bleeding red ink to the point of bankruptcy! Soon please.

Today's Big Story,

Readers may want to refer to two of my posts on the other Emissions thread to see how corrupted these guys really are.

Fisk

G West: Spector does in fact post links
to Fisk columns in The Independent, not infrequently, on his blog.
And they're likely to show up in his "Other Columns Worth Reading" section, not in his "Idiocy of the Day" or "Dishonesty of the Day" ones (though Fisk may possibly have won the "Dishonesty..." prize occasionally!

Very clever to make it a rt/left issue

I admit to never reading the National Post unless I have to and I was skating along side the "We're guilty for climate change" well oiled bus, but something was nagging at me....where had I seen this before?

Let me also say, I let Gore off the hook, because should he have fought the fixed election of 2000, he would have been assasinated. But his movie opens with a hypnotic induction, which I got to notice, because I saw it on my monitor, not surrounded by people or a sound track..I know people who did see it on the big screen who had a conversion experience.

Using "good guy Gore" to push the agenda was a stroke of genius, and never forget the amount of money pouring out to sample opinion on an ongoing basis. PR firms have sold us everything from stolen incubators to fudget budgets. Fostering a false consensus is what PR firms are paid to do.

For those of you who haven't bothered to read the The Creeping Fascism of Global Warming Hysteria I linked above, consider this:

Fearmongering about an imminent climate doomsday also hogs news coverage and important environmental issues like GM food, mad scientist chimera cloning and the usurpation and abuse of corporations like Monsanto flies under the radar.

Global warming is cited as an excuse to meter out further control and surveillance over our daily lives, RFID chips on our trash cans, GPS satellite tracking and taxation by the mile, as well as a global tax at the gas pump.

The extremist wing of the environmentalist movement, characterized by people like Dr. Erik Pianka, advocate the mass culling of humanity via plagues and state sanctioned bio-terrorism, in order to "save" the earth from the disease of humanity. Nazi-like genocidal population control measures and the environmental establishment have always held a close alliance.

The world is laboring under enforced adherence to a program of mass deception while scientists who attempt to blow the whistle on the fraud are silenced, tarred, ridiculed and fired. The biased control freaks at the United Nations and their intellectually spayed cheerleaders, whose goal it is to use the hysteria of climate change to impose draconian control measures on society and centralize world power, have declared "case closed" on the man-made origins of global warming. However, their foolish attempts to zealously mute mere expression of an opposing view betray the inherent flaws of their own mantra and will ultimately lead to its downfall.[b]

Take a look at the series starting with this: http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/lia/possible_causes.html

Norman, we hardly knew ye. Come back.

I miss the good old days when Norman was a regular tyee poster. Norman, come back. Remember when I accused you of being a secret leftie, but too righterly aligned to come out? That was fun!

I always kinda appreciated your savant leftism breakouts, myself.

Bobb999

I was actually thinking of a row they had over Fisk's use of quotation marks around some reference taken from the Kahane report about Ariel Sharon's responsibility - 'personal' or otherwise - for the Sabra and Shatila massacre by the Lebanese Christina Phalange.

The battle occured in the G&M as well, as I remember, and perhaps on CBC radio and in The Independent.

Norman, because of his experience as Ambassador to Israel and as Tubby Black's hand picked editor at the Jerusalem Post, thinks he is as qualifed as Fisk to talk about a place where Fisk has lived for at least 20 years - perhaps longer. And he clearly wanted to give Sharon a pass when the report itself courageously did not.

I gave up reading him years ago. I found the combination of bile and arrogance tended to spoil my whole morning and my breakfast. If he's started to give credit to Robert Fisk for his unquestioned expertise in the Middle East and he's starting to speak out about what's been happening in Victoria as well....

Maybe Richard Warnica and David Beers are right; this is a BIG story.

I'm gonna give it three stars out of five

errata

That's Christian Phalange - sorry

Who care's if he is right/left wing

How about we just discuss the issue.

The comment section here is like recess. Do we need to decide if he is a jock or a preppy too?

How about a little pragmatism. You know, actual problem-solving rather than person-labelling.

I thought Norman Spector and the media was involved as well

No?
Is he not worthy?
It's obvious what the government is up to. If members of the media are starting to speak out - and aren't just playing games - as Mr Spector has been wont to do in the past, then I'd say that's about all were gonna get from this.
Maybe when we hear the throne speech later today we could set up a compare and contrast session.
I thought we'd already given the Campbell government more than enough time to show their true stripes.

Secret Agenda's

Pure Prairie Jibberish. That's what they called it in "Blazing Saddles." Bullshite by another word. Every serious supporter of the GW issue always clarifies by saying a better term for Global Warming would be Climate Change. Most reasonable conclusions show that human activitiy is a likely source of this most recent case of global climate change. Although there are surely other factors as the records indicate, mini ice ages or past warmings as well as other more major changes have
happened and no one knows for certain why.
But to deny our effect on the ecosystem including climate is like denying smoking is bad for you. Nothing will be 100% certain with this issue or any other for that matter. Those opposing action on climate change appear to have their own agenda's. First you have the deniers paid for by big oil, then you have the science nurds insisting the science is flawed because it could be the sun or exploding stars causing the earth to heat up. The point that both sides are downplaying is the survival of society, certainly the survival of close to a billion people living too close to the rising oceans, and ultimately the survival of the species. The opportunity to change commerce in an ecologically friendly way now presents itself for one reason or another. We may not get many more chances. Why not embrace this opportunity to send a message to big corp, big oil and big GI Joe that their behaviour is unacceptable. Behaviour ignored is behavior accepted. Send a message that enough is enough. This stupid debate over what's causing it or who's going to pay for it is counter productive and so far hasn't been explained by any of our resident sceince critics that makes any sense to me at all. Like were not already spending the inherentance of future generations on gadgets and stuff!! JHFC!
Emma!? Where'd I put my rocket launcher...?

re: Spector

Good piece... I've never perceived Norman Spector to be loose with the truth. I think he generally calls it as he sees it. Certainly on political issues he comes from a different (more conservative) point of view than myself. But he's never been averse to calling out media or politicians, be they "right wing" or "left wing" if he perceives a lie or wrong-doing.

On the issue of the province's media, this article is absolutely correct. If you like the gov't and want to see your point of view reinforced, read and watch the mainstream media. For those who want a balanced approach, read the headlines and then dig a little deeper yourself.

G West: I recall just a bit

G West:
I recall just a bit of that controversy
you mention about the report on Sharon's involvement in that massacre in Lebanon.

No doubt some of Spector's positions taken on the middle east would appear to many on the left as being biased toward Israel.
As an ex-ambassador to Israel and ex-editor
of the J. Post, we shouldn't be too surprised!

I did hear Spector say regarding positions on the middle east, that he believes the NY Times and Washington Post "have it about right". As far as I know, those papers' editorial positions and reporting (as opposed to certain columnists)on the m.e., aren't especially right wing or hawkish on behalf of Israel.

pk - The article IDs Spector as "right wing". I felt this was a misrepresentation, that gives readers an inaccurate description of him, and could leave a wrong impression.

As Truman says, sometimes Spector appears to be a secret leftie!

Moe Sihota and Norman

Moe Sihota and Norman Spector used to have good program on channel 12. Suddenly almost everyone disappeared from staff. The commentators as well. Too bad, I guess it was supposed to be a bottom line decision. It's never been the same since. Norma may be right wing, but usually his stuff is pretty good,a s long as it stays away from talk of Isreal

200 Million Tonnes

that was the number that I googled recently when I wanted to know how much CO2 humans were producing. I thought that this had been settled in the 60's and 70's and promptly went on to other things. Not. Does anyone here understand what 200 million tonnes of carbon dioxide is? 200 million tonnes of a gas? Per year? Not to mention all the other pollutants that we produce. Even so called "right wing pundits" can grasp the enormity of this. It won't matter much to us here but I think that the children and grand-children that survive will curse us.

Killer Klowns run amok in once fair province...

And today at what has become the cirque du legislature there are marching bands playing, a rose boutonniere for every lapel, and a red carpet rolled out - all to celebrate another "official" season of subterfuge, the garage sale sell-out of this province... along with the rights of all its citizens.

These sleazy fiberal clowns love nothing better than a distracting parade...

So let the lying games begin.

(Note to the "Opposition's" Mime Act: Quit being soooo nice to the Killer Klowns. It ain't working.)

CKNW

You guys shouldn't encourage me, especially G West and Maestro. I'll toughen up. I turn on my radio that only does AM at 5 to check the weather. This morning it had Gary Collins as a rep for the BC Libs saying that the NDP were going to be rude in the legislature but that the BC Libs were not going to fall for it and that they were going to take the high road. Huh? They already knew? It was in the news? Could someone check this out? I can't even turn on the AM radio for the weather? I guess I'll have to retune it to CBC. Oh no! Socialist weather!

Read the speech form the

Read the speech form the throne and hear about how the BC government has been leaders in environmental care over the last five years. I feel sorry for Iona who has to read that stuff and not gag on the BS. This government wants to burn coal to make electricity. Gordo is having visions again

Iona

"sorry for Iona who has to read that stuff and not gag on the BS."
I had the misfortune of delivering something to Iona in Richmond in the 80's and being perceived as a "union worker". I have no sympathy for anyone who abuses people just doing their jobs.
People show their real colours. I was just delivering something and I didn't deserve the diatribe I received from her and her staff.

The Religion of Environmentalism

Great, now we have a new religion. I can only ask that the govt. recognizes this new religion and registers it for tax free status, and help us separate church and state.
DPL, you didn't pay attention. The new BC Govt. initiative says it's fine to build a new coal fired power plant, as long as you don't dispense ant CO2 ( the evil carbon dioxide ).
I have enjoyed the back peddling by the left with this latest plans by capitalists to fix the environment.
We can do it, so what is the next cause of the left? Poverty is gone, environment is fixed, people are healthy and well educated.
I say the left should concentrate on places like Africa that need DDT again to save hundreds of millions of lives, and leave us alone to fix the planet.
Carol James is so wimpy and weak on any issue, and she was totalling outdone by Gordon Campbell on what was supposed to be her issue, that I would think the NDP would be looking for a new leader.
This brilliant tactic by the BC Liberal Party will go down in history as one of the most effective way of marginalizing the official opposition.

Poverty Gone???? Where?

Well if you fix the environment as well as you've fixed poverty, Ron, we are in real deep trouble.

Did you notice the US trade deficit figures for 2006 came out today?

You should check it out.

I think they are nearly toasted.

You couldn't fix your way out of a wet paper bag Ron.

And that education....

Who would you say is a good example of that success story Ron?

United States are not toast

The US economy, is THE economy. It's what everything else is measured against. And it's doing very well right now.
Why are so many posters to this site, The Tyee, so negative against the Americans?
If anyone can suggest another measuring stick we should use rather than the Americans, let us all know.

Just a note...

After reading this article, I Google searched "Carole James and environment" and clicked on the first link. I was apolled by what came up...the Real Story on Carole James...please. This brings up a bigger issue that has been bothering me for sometime. Politics, more than ever, has become merely a site of party bashing, esp. around climate change (ex. Dion is not a leader (video), the endless references to "non-accounts" for climate change in the H of C). The leaders of our country are a bunch of kids...but what's new? As a young person who has high hopes for social change and is beginning to take interest in politics, I'm finding the petty nature of our government truly sickening...anyways, going off on a tangent here.

As usual Ron, your ignorance is quite stunningly complete

Outstanding Public Debt as of 14 Feb 2007 at 08:59:04 AM GMT is:
$ 8,722,260,418,289.75

The estimated population of the United States is 300,956,279
so each citizen's share of this debt is $28,981.82.

The U S National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.57 billion per day since September 29, 2006!

I don't think people here have anything against Americans. A country in its economic situation is more to be pitied than laughed at; and, since we've decided to tie our economy so closely to America's success, it won't be great for poor Americans when that economy flies apart, as it surely will be bad for us too.

Here are a few facts for you RON:
1. Outstanding Public Debt as of 14 Feb 2007 at 08:59:04 AM GMT is:
$ 8,722,260,418,289.75 (That's 8.7 trillion Ron)

The estimated population of the United States is 300,956,279 - each citizen's share of debt is $28,981.82.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.57 billion per day since September 29, 2006!

2. From the US Census Bureau:
WASHINGTON, Feb. 13 — The United States ran a record trade deficit in 2006 for the fifth consecutive year, the Census Bureau reported Tuesday in an announcement that quickly reignited the dispute between the Bush administration and Democrats over the value of past and future deals lowering trade barriers.

The bureau said that the trade deficit, or gap between what the United States sells abroad and what it imports, reached a new high of $763.3 billion last year, a 6.5 percent increase over the year before. The deficit was fueled by the continuing American need for foreign oil and imports of consumer goods from China and other countries.

Can I also tell you about how the Americans misplaced $8 billion (in paper money/on pallets) in Iraq.

Any economy that behaves in such a wasteful and profligate way is in big trouble Ron.

Now you're informed and you're very welcome..
Can I offer you something for your stomach?

And, Ron, I have to give your comment a rating of -1 star for being silly and completely off topic...

And whatever rating you're giving me

Get's downgraded one star for redundancy

Sorry about that.

media sleeping

Speaking of the Canwest media sleeping or deliberately avoiding talking about the danger to an indepent judiciary by the Harper government. The Globe and Mail had no less than three articles and an editorial covering this subject in todays paper, and yesterday a passionate article by John Ibbitson - to read just google: "SETTING THE STAGE FOR A JUDICIAL BATTLEGOUND". This may be off the topic of the environment but does apply the sad state of western media for Canadians, I scanned the Sun, the Province and a couple of dailies today and couldn't find a word about it.

CanWest-Global is toxic

I don't touch anything printed by CanWest-Global. Which is often hard to do as they seem to own more and more all the time. I live in Ottawa. They own The Citizen, our two main commuter papers and a couple of local TV stations. They are our Fox News. TOXIC!

Why They Fight

HI Ron/IAMC:

Yu said earlier:

"The US economy, is THE economy. It's what everything else is measured against. And it's doing very well right now.
Why are so many posters to this site, The Tyee, so negative against the Americans?
If anyone can suggest another measuring stick we should use rather than the Americans, let us all know."

Have you ever seen the documentary about the U.S. (though other far reaching States have done the same) called "Why We Fight" (I think that was the title)?

That might shed a little light on your question of why so many posters may be against the U.S. government (not neccessarily its ctizens-though they do vote the people into Office).

It's true that the deal is

It's true that the deal is supposed to be that zero emmissions. Suzuki said today that would mean pumping the CO2 into the ground, others have said the same, but he went on to say nobody really knows what the results short or long term will be. A local radio station said today that the ourfit near Penticton is now thinking wood waste instead of coal. and since the governemtn has bee promising no more beehive burners at lumber mills maybe this time it will happen. I figur Gordon is just having another vision. It's to replace his Heartlands that took a few months to wear thin. Stand by for the court cases as contracts have been let.

I note today that the Speaker kept calling Campbell The Premier of BC, not simply Premier as before. Most of us know this is BC. Hope that wears out soon as well, Sort of like Canada's new government.

Kafka's Amerika

Right on, DPL.

Along with that new terminology goes this one... "Minister of State" for Child Care (Linda Reid) and "Minister of State" (for mining) (Bill Bennett until his recent resignation)...etc. What country are we living in?.... or about to live in?

All this new terminology, as in "new government" slyly "fixing in" an american state of mind here..as our Canadian identity bit by bit is made obsolete by this "new, improved" terminology...selling out our Canadian soul via these newly branded word/images...they go right along with covert documents like TILMA...making the americanization of Canada a mere walk in the park.

And the "new" word for the changes in the Ministry of Children and Families is "TRANSFORMATION"....and, yes, this is going to be quite the metamorphosis...but not of the butterfly kind that the word is trying ever so hard to suggest...no, it is more of a dark, tragic Kafkaesque one for those most vulnerable and at risk in BC.

Norman ... you've got be kidding me!

So, the guy that argued that the coverage and bias against the NDP in The Vancouver Sun is uncomparable before the 2001 and 2005 elections because there was an editor change is now "enlightened" to the BC media's obvious bias? I'm sorry, but Spector has, in the past, been quite elequent in his defense of the BC media. He is not a trustworthy source on this topic. I would suggest his comments are more "spinning" his image to seem less far-right after his "elequent" description of Belinda. After a journalist, and I use the term loosely here, becomes the "story" and starts doing damage control, I think credibility becomes a big problem. Spector's name in the article is more a distraction to the content than it is helpful. Sorry.

Campbell's key to success-an NDP opposition

Unfortunately, Spector's comments will go no farther than this site, read mostly by NDPers. The chances of any NDP government having the wherewithal or interest in taking the media to task are non existant. If the tables were turned , the problem would be fixed forthwith. Far right governments can only exist with an NDP government in opposition, therefore the NDP is contributing to the selling-out of our Province to the highest bidder.

Examples, please? Trulib

I think this kind of conjunction is nonsense. British Columbia certainly has a far right government, so does Canada, so does Alberta.

In only one case is there an NDP opposition.

The problem is with corporate media not actually behaving responsibly. I agree it's tough for the NDP to do much about it, but to suggest that the party is contributing to the situation is nonsense, in my view. Especially since the gradual evolution of the press into its current compromised state, where opinion and news both appear together, cheek by jowl throughout the paper, has occurred in a period during which the Federal Government (with the jurisdiction to address such things as media concentration) has always been either Liberal or Conservative and the Opposition has NEVER been the NDP or any other progressive party.

To suggest the NDP is somehow responsible for the sorry state in which we find ourselves in relative to media matters is sophistry of a rather primitive order.

By your name you appear to be a liberal. If you want to find our who's responsible for the corporatization of our media and our economy, if not our society, I think you can understand why I might suggest you look into a mirror.

Chris H., of course you're right, but...

Chris H., of course you're right. Spector's doing a classical 'limited hangout' here--a partial admission, the intent of which is to obscure the big picture, which is that you can't really believe ANYTHING (well maybe the date) you read in the MSM, without doing your own research. Ditto for almost all of the 'alternative' media. Salon.com is not too bad.

GNN

Truman, do you ever read GNN?

Norman just might be right

Carole Taylor announced today (15 Feb.) that there won't be any money for environment in this budget, as she wants to see what? Where? How? Who?

I would suggest there are a number of things the Libs could do that don't require money - such as tightening up the emissions standards that the Libs loosened recently. Such as clamping down on the emissions in the O&G industry. Such as clamping down on the forest industry, etc. etc. yadda yadda.

None of this requires an outlay of cash, but oh my! it would sure hurt the Libs sources of funding, and we can't have that now.......

Oh, and the Libs could reconvene the legislature and actually discuss all this.......