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Libs' Fibs on Crime Voting
Claims that New Dems opposed police spending are false.
Van Dongen: Led the attack.
This spring's truncated sitting of the legislative assembly offered both the governing BC Liberals and the opposition New Democrats an opportunity to road-test themes and issues for the May 12 general election.
Much media attention was lavished on the NDP's barrage of questions around the unregistered lobbying activities of BC Liberal strategist Patrick Kinsella. Almost none was given to questionable allegations raised by Gordon Campbell and his ministers over the New Democrats' legislative voting record.
It started in question period on Monday, Feb. 9, as NDP MLAs blasted the government over the wave of gangland killings sweeping across the Lower Mainland. John Van Dongen, minister of public safety and solicitor general, responded by blurting: "...the members opposite have voted against every single increase in spending for policing in this province in the last eight years."
He later repeated the charge: "They have voted against provincial spending on the provincial police force."
The next day, Premier Gordon Campbell picked up on the theme: "The thing that distinguishes our side of the house from that side of the house is we've added hundreds of police officers," the premier claimed. "They've voted against every single one of them!"
And then the day after that, Van Dongen defended the government by outlining several areas where his department had hiked police resources. "And all those increases," he shouted, "the NDP opposed!"
In short, both the premier and solicitor general claimed that the New Democrats had voted against each and every funding increase the BC Liberal government gave to provincial policing.
Sorry, not true
It's easy enough to check. All one has to do is review Hansard over the past eight years and count the number of times the New Democrats voted against the spending estimates for Van Dongen's ministry.
After just a few minutes, the answer emerges. Zero. Not once. The record shows that the NDP approved each and every one of the department's spending requests.
On Aug. 14, 2001 -- barely three months after the Campbell Liberals won election to government -- the legislature approved without division $443.7 million for the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General. The next year, on Mar. 6 2002, $461.5 million was approved. Then, on Mar. 6, 2003, nearly $481 million gained approval, and a year later, on Mar. 31, 2004, $478.9 million passed without dissent.
Following the May 2005 general election, the legislature on Nov. 14 approved $500.2 million for the department. A year later, on May 18, 2006, nearly $524 million gained approval. Similarly, on May 2, 2007, $579.4 million passed without dissent, and just last May 29, the legislature approved departmental spending of $617.6 million.
Libs and NDP united!
So, from 2001, when the Campbell Liberals first took power, until the fiscal year just ended, the budget for the Ministry of Solicitor General and Public Safety grew from about $444 million to almost $618 million. The New Democratic Party opposition, every step of the way, approved each increase.
It was a theme that the government repeated frequently during the legislative sitting. As late as March 24, Rich Coleman said the New Democrats had "voted against" increases in social assistance rates. And on March 31, Ida Chong accused the NDP of opposing "every budget that brought forward more dollars for local governments... health care... and education."
It's a theme, false or not, that British Columbians likely will hear repeated throughout the election campaign.
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alive
3 years ago
they will get away with it too!
interesting, and by the time the NDP sues and get heard the election is over and done!
Skywalker
3 years ago
This is the kind of reporting that is needed.
Rather than repeat what Campbell said and then what James said a story on the veracity of their claims is much more important. If we know that Van Dongen, then Campbell, the Chong lied what does that say about the government in general?
Fiat lux
3 years ago
I think this government, and
I think this government, and also their federal brethren, have completely lost any contact with realities and, like millions of the faithful, actually believe what they're saying.
Faith conquers all, especially logical thought and the comprehension of realities.
E.g. Nobody questioned the existence of the nazis death camps for about 10 years after the war, then it suddenly became very fashionable, and literally an industry.
The BCLibs are an enmeshed part of the ideological system that brought on the present crisis and the coming depression, yet they, and their followers, still believe that they're the best managers of the economy, who will pull BC out of this coming mess, by selling off the resources and lands of the province.
The same as when somebody sells a house or land and then lives high on the hog until the money lasts. But what then?
I don't think anybody in this government has even the slightest idea, or the intelligence, to comprehend what really is going on and what they're promoting. They live on slogans and even believe in them, just like the fascists, nazis and communists I have known, until the whole mess they've caused collapses over their heads, as it is doing now, and even then they think that their warped brains have been right .
Ed Deak.
Van Isle
3 years ago
Van Dongen, didn't he make a
Van Dongen, didn't he make a bold face lie years ago to Rafe Mair about 2 or 3 fish escapes from fish farms? The man just can't help himself in telling lies.
crh
3 years ago
these lies are deliberate
as they serve to shore up their faithful followers. Letting them all think that yup, I'm right in voting for Campbell...
BC Mary
3 years ago
Paul Nettleton on Honesty, Transparency, Accountability ...
Those who remember the lone figure of Paul Nettleton standing in the BC Legislature in defence of BC Rail may have been pleased to see his remarks yesterday on my blog:
http://bctrialofbasi-virk.blogspot.com/
which led to the Nettleton comments appearing in yesterday's Globe and Mail. I'd say it shows that there are many people hungry for that kind of honesty in B.C. politics.
Some of us have been trying for a couple of years to contact Paul Nettleton. Not because he was a one-time BC Liberal in Campbell's government but because he broke away from them on the issue of ... first, BCHydro ... then BC Rail. Same treacherous process for two Crown jewels.
He quietly but firmly stood against that process, after getting to know the people in his constituency of Prince George - Omineca who understood the significance of BC Rail in the north.
It was a strange coincidence that yesterday, too, a trainman (33 years with BC Rail) created a lasting image of B.C. in this troubled time. At an intersection in West Vancouver, he climbed down from his locomotive, approached the little lady who leads the campaign against Campbell, and thanked her for opposing the sale of BC Rail. I understand that he said to her, "The deal isn't working."
I want a YouTube of that magic moment. I want reporters to find that trainman and tell us more.
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Tony Martinson
3 years ago
Reporters...
Mary, unfortunately reporters are too busy talking about Campbell sinking a basketball in Prince George. I wish I were kidding.
morechatter
3 years ago
East Side Slasher Alert!
Another crime as police recommend people out on the streets late at night have cell phones for their protection. As there is a Slasher on the east side that hates the homeless and a whole lot in the legislature.
Cell phones for the homeless who have been beaten to death, shot, burned, poisoned, frozen, slashed, run over, tasered to name a few of regular occurrences for BC's homeless.
morechatter
3 years ago
I'm not buying It, either?
Everything that was preciously Canadian the Liberal government has destroyed along with any moral intergity some politicians may have had. Gone thanks to the sleeze Liberals have brought to the Justice System as well as government as it takes aim at the low income and ensures they don't have a leg to stand on, an unjust one for sure. Which is ironic because a homeless, peace loving one legged man on assistance just found that out with his life as he was murdered in east side school yard where the homeless sleep.
morechatter
3 years ago
Reporters?????
Yes I agree they are busy covering up the news is more like it while taking pictures of the guy who pays the rent? Thats right thanks to all those tax payers dollars the Liberals are just about the only ones doing any real advertising around here. And come on Can West has had it reporters suction up to Campbell like a crook does to a bank vault.
As Slasher on the east side isn't news I guess despite the recent killing and the homeless do have access to the internet and the news just might be helpful to them.
Skywalker
3 years ago
Tony Martinson is right.
We've had enough useless photo shoots of Campbell doing anything but answering questions. Next thing we'll see him in that plaid shirt pretending to be an ordinary guy.
Skywalker
3 years ago
Where are Luke and Realisticman
I'd be interested to hear what they have to say on this piece abour Gordocchio.
Frank
3 years ago
Skywalker
Agreed, it is fun to read spin.