Idea #7: Create a Ward System for Vancouver
Let’s scrap the park board and elect more councillors too.
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Is the public ready for another debate over introducing the ward system in Vancouver?
Don’t expect the new Vision Vancouver councillors to rush with arms and legs akimbo to the local community centre, trilling about the prospect of a big turnout for a public forum that would put even public policy graduate students to sleep. They’re already waffling about the subject.
But here’s the thing. Vancouver still needs a better system than the one it’s got. Right now, the city has a complex ballot that Thomas Berger described in his 2004 electoral reform commission report A City of Neighbourhoods as one that “virtually no one” would defend.
In the November civic election, Vancouver again made South Asian candidates the also-rans. Civic parties spent more for each vote their candidates received than provincial and federal parties do, and independent candidates were again effectively shut out of the process.
How can a less discriminatory and more engaging electoral system be brought forward again, so soon after Berger’s suggestions failed to make a difference? By changing the proposition.
Berger’s report on electoral reform in Vancouver was thorough and wise, as would be expected from the esteemed former B.C. Supreme Court justice. Anyone interested in how municipal elections work should read it. But its section on the idea of a mixed wards and at-large system was its weakest link.
Mix it up
A mixed system isn’t perfect, of course. Nothing is. But it’s a step in the right direction. That alone would be welcome after more than 30 years of debate, two commissions of inquiry and five ineffectual referendums (three of which resulted in a majority supporting wards).
When the public offers informed commentary, they overwhelmingly support change. A survey conducted by Berger’s commission found 50 per cent of respondents supported wards while only 20 per cent favoured the current at-large system, in which 10 councillors are chosen from a ballot that usually features nearly 50 names. Another 29 per cent favoured a mixed system.
One might reasonably assume that most ward supporters would at least prefer a partial ward system to the one Vancouver currently employs.
That’s not the only reason a mixed system might fly with the public. Voters like basic things. In opposing wards, Vancouver’s former mayor Sam Sullivan told Thomas Berger “you trade in 10 votes and get one back.” Voters don’t like giving up power. Nor do they like spending extra money.
So here’s a proposition that caters to craven public desires. Elect nine councillors from wards and five at-large. Make the at-large councillors the city’s representatives on the Metro Vancouver regional board. Eliminate the parks board and get the ward councillors to fulfil that function. Voters get new powers, the ballot becomes simpler, and the city cuts some (admittedly modest) costs to help fund new ones.
Variations on this theme were presented to Berger, who said in his report that he was initially attracted to the idea of a mixed system.
Path to more diversity on council
Berger ultimately objected, however. He said rightly that such a system would still allow wealthier neighbourhoods with high voter turnouts to hold disproportionate sway over the makeup of council. To which I’d say that in a ward system rich people still vote disproportionately in poor neighbourhoods. No system of voting can be perfect.
He said it would create two tiers of councillors, with some deemed more powerful than others. Yet there are always councillors who wield more power than others.
Berger also raised the spectre of direct election to the Metro board as being the first step down a slippery slope toward amalgamation. That certainly doesn’t need to be the case, which may be why Berger barely discussed the issue except to raise it as a bogeyman.
Berger more legitimately worried that if the at-large councillors were elected directly to the Metro Vancouver board, they might be at odds with the will of council. Okay, so have the at-large candidates run with the expectation that they may serve on the Metro board, but leave the ultimate appointment of the city’s five Metro representatives to the incoming council as a whole.
Let’s not allow the perfect to again become the enemy of the good. A mixed system along these lines would open doors to ethnic and independent candidates, simplify the ballot, promise new ways to engage voters, bring regional issues into municipal election debates, and offer voters a greater sense of power. It’s not an ideal arrangement. But it has advantages that a simpler wards system, which was defeated by 59 per cent of Vancouver voters in 2004, does not.
And one of those advantages proceeds from that unseemly matter of popularity. A mixed system would win broad public support.
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dorothy
3 years ago
Yes!
"Let’s not allow the perfect to again become the enemy of the good."
Hear, hear!
asp
3 years ago
We already have Ward systems
Wards is what we have in provincial and federal elections, and we want to change those to some sort of proportinal representation system. We would be going backwards if we went with a ward system on a municipal level.
But really, Metro Vancouver already has a type of ward system. Some of us vote in the Vancouver ward, other is the Surrey ward, etc.
To get elected to city hall, a candidate only needs the support of about 10% of citizens under the current system. That should be that hard for anyone with other then a very unusual platform.
Jim DeLaHunt
3 years ago
STV for Vancouver as well as BC?
While we're thinking about reforming Vancouver's roster of councillor spots and the boundaries of its wards, maybe we should think about its electoral system too.
BC voters will decide on adopting the Single Transferable Vote (STV) system for the provincial legislature, in the upcoming May 19, 2009 referendum. STV would represent Vancouver East and Vancouver West with a total of 11 MLAs in two multi-member ridings. (For more on the BC STV referendum, see http://stv.ca/.)
STV could also used in Vancouver elections, either at-large or in a few multi-councillor wards. Instead of casting 10 votes for 10 councillors, you would rank the candidates: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. A complex but rigorous and effective STV counting process translates these into elected councillors in proportions reflecting our preferences.
Berger's 2004 Electoral Reform report has 18 pages on how STV and other proportional systems might be applied to Vancouver. It's worth a read. He proposes "that the Charter should be amended so as to permit systems of proportional representation to be tried in the city should Council and Vancouverites decide to do so." Is now the time to make that change?
anarcho
3 years ago
Vancouver does not have a
Vancouver does not have a ward system, asp. It has an at large system. This was put in place because the wealthy tend to vote more than the poorer sections of the populace. With the ward system that existed previously, it appeared that the CCF could take city hall so the right-wingers banded together, formed the phony Non-Partisan Association, got a majority and abolished the ward system. The abolition of the ward system was simply election -rigging and nothing more.
dangrice.com
3 years ago
Berger discussed a single
Berger discussed a single transferable vote system for Vancouver in his report and spoke quite positively of it, but didn't recommend it because the provincial government would need to change the city charter.
While the at-large system is certainly the least personal system, wards hardly accounts for the diversity of dwellings and individuals living in an area and could tend to polarize the city by neighbourhood. (ie Vision Vancouver could hold the North and the NPA the South). Wards is more a step side ways if they still use a first past the post system to elect local councillors.
Another healthy addition would be instant runoff for Mayor like is used in London. (Everyone gets a first and a second choice.)
dangrice.com
3 years ago
This is a good write up on
This is a good write up on how STV (or choice voting as they call it in the US) has worked in Cambridge, MA for the last 68 years.
http://www.fairvote.org/?page=241
It has been great for minorities and women. It fairly consistently elected at least one african american since the 1960s, while they only accounted for 10% of the population. Women to under municipal STV have benefited greatly a well.
Fiat lux
3 years ago
We moved to Vancouver in
We moved to Vancouver in 1955 and this ward system debate was going on even then.
Moved out in 1979, haven't been back since '88 and hope we never will have to see that "world class" dump again. Bad enough to see it on the news.
Ed Deak, Big Lake.
Tony
3 years ago
Time for Citywide PR
Asp, it actually requires about 40% of the vote to get elected in Vancouver - that's why South Asian candidates can't get elected in Vancouver - they only win 70-80% of the votes of the average in their party, so they don't cross that 40%-ish threshold (I would certainly agree with you if you were suggesting that it should take 10% of the vote to get elected).
As Jim suggests, STV would make it possible to get elected on 10% of the vote (as would various other systems). Check out http://cityvote.ca to see what the current councillors have said about civic electoral reform - generally speaking, there's a lot of support for this.