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Idea #3: Embrace the Mediocrity Principle
Admitting we're just specks in the cosmos can help save the planet.
New ideas for the new year.
New Ideas for the New Year, 2009
- Idea #1: Slow Towns
- Idea #2: Voter-funded Media
- Idea #3: Embrace the Mediocrity Principle
- Idea #4 New Ways to Warm Your Bum
- Idea #5: Beware of Neuromarketing
- Idea #6: Phase out Fishermen
- Idea #7: Create a Ward System for Vancouver
- Idea #8: Twitter the News
- Idea #9: Progressive Populism
- Idea #10: Biophysical Economics
- Give Us Your Big Idea for 2009
- Thanks for Your Big Ideas!
[Editor's note: Back by popular demand, the Tyee again is offering its readers a series of New Ideas for the New Year. We're publishing a new one every weekday from Dec. 22 through Jan. 2. They're intended to get everyone's problem-solving, creative thinking going for 2009. Later in January we'll be asking you to suggest your own new ideas for the new year, and publish a selection.]
The shoe has dropped. But few are inclined to embrace the implications of the discoveries in the last few years that there are, almost certainly, millions of Earths out there and that the big rock you inhabit is as ordinary as phlegm.
Welcome to The Mediocrity Principle -- astrophysicists' scary gift to the third millennium. Unlike the famous Peter Principle that says people rise to fulfill their incompetence, the new and very real Mediocrity Principle says that wherever astronomers look, the universe -- and, by extension, all its constituents -- sinks into trans-galactic commonness.
The Earth isn't the least unique. Ipso facto: neither are you. You're unalterably average.
It's an idea that, cosmologically speaking, has been a long time coming. But, its acceptance as a guiding 21st century paradigm, say pundits of impending environmental and economic apocalypse, just might save humankind from its own bloated sense of superiority and greed.
Welcome to 2009: Year of the Hairshirt. SUVs are officially DUM. Sardines trump swordfish. Mediocrity begins to replace excess. Frugalism is the new black.
No longer centre of all
In a Very Brief History of Time (169 words), this is how the Earth and its occupants have fallen into dis-grace. A few centuries ago, people in the West thought this planet was the centre of the universe, that it began in 4004 B.C. (on Saturday, Oct. 22, to be exact), and that humans were made in the image of God. Copernicus, Galileo, and Darwin put large holes in these beliefs.
In the early 20th century, astronomer Edwin Hubble said a lot of those stars out there aren't stars at all. They're distant galaxies -- billions of them. Each containing billions of stars.
To make matters worse for humankind's sense of uniqueness, it soon became clear that time didn't start with The Big Guy in 4004 B.C., but with The Big Bang in 15 billion B.C.
Now, using information from the Hubble telescope, the first 300 of what's-predicted-to-be millions of distant planets have been found. There are almost certainly tens of millions of life-sustaining, Earth-like rocks out there. We live, it appears, on a commonplace hunk of granite, Coca-Cola, and chop suey surrounded by 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars and innumerable solar systems.
"Why should we assume there is anything special about us? Mediocrity is the universal rule," says Alexander Vilenkin, the Boston cosmologist who in 1995 coined the phrase The Mediocrity Principle.
As this was happening, the late Harvard University paleontologist Stephen Gould pilloried Darwin's theory, saying evolution comes about, in part, through fluke and global catastrophe. Not just through a species' inherent superiority. Now, humans can no longer claim to be Heavenly or even evolutionarily blessed; we're the result -- in part -- of renegade luck.
Headed for newt status?
And the realization couldn't come at a more crucial moment. The Earth today is facing one of those planetary catastrophes that Gould and his doom-saying associates have often spoken about. Is our luck running out?
The planet's systems are breaking down: global warming, economic disintegration, energy and food crises, the accelerating extinction of species, rampant pollution, AIDS, regional economic ghettoization, and the threat of worldwide terror. The list is long and familiar.
Sixty-five million years ago, the dinosaurs failed to adapt to change and became, in time, newts. Mediocrity was forced on them. Today, there are creepy species waiting in the wings -- rats, blackberries, cockroaches, lawyers -- ready to claim humanity's position atop the Pig Pile. (Remember, the planet's dominant life-form throughout history is slime.)
It's beginning to look as if the wackos carrying the placards reading "The End Is Nigh‚" are right. Unless… UNLESS: This planet's brainiest inhabitants accept that The Mediocrity Principle applies to them.
Tad Homer-Dixon is no wacko. He's a 52 year-old University of Waterloo professor of international affairs and author of the 2001 Governor-General award-winning book The Ingenuity Gap.
In it he describes how the current convergence of global crises can no longer be dismissed by the 'Don't Worry, Be Happy' voices of hucksters promoting status, wealth, and consumption.
"The conceit of sustainable development," says Homer-Dixon, "is you can have your cake and eat it, too. You can't. There's only so much. The cliff-edge is out there."
As Homer-Dixon sees it, there are two human options for the future: 1) capitulation to drastic worldwide regulations and limits…or 2) chaos.
To achieve the former, there'd have to be restrictions on consumption and on freedoms that -- to use Homer-Dixon's phrase, "would be Holland -- times 10." It would be a world of unimaginable technocratic order, enforced mediocrity, and eco-police. Flagrant extravagance would be a crime.
That is the good option. To achieve the latter -- chaos -- Earthlings just have to keep doing what we're doing now. This route leads to fortified enclaves of wealth scattered amid widespread political and environmental collapse, plus the quarantine of entire sections of the planet. It would be -- again using Homer-Dixon's analogy, "a patchwork of global anarchy -- like many, many Haitis."
Which option would you choose?
Selling mediocrity
The point man for global mediocrity is Vancouver's Kalle Lasn, the 66-year-old founder of award-winning Adbusters magazine, and creator of the unlikely 'Buy Nothing Day.' His is not an easy task. In a world of exceptionalism, glitz, and vacuous spectacle, the satisfactions of the ordinary are, he knows, made to appear third-rate.
For example, recent ad copy hyping the Nissan Altima read: "May Promote Feelings of Superiority." There are no ads anywhere promoting the virtues of mediocrity. Lasn knows this because he has produced 25 anti-commercials and sought to air them on the three big American TV networks. His success rate? Zero for 25.
"Consumption is the mother of all evils," he says as he studies the foyer of a big-box Toys 'R' Us near his office. Colourful, inflated swimming pool animals float overhead. "People think business and technology will save us. But that's science fiction. Calamities lie ahead. Ordinariness will be resisted. In time, there'll be hell to pay. This over-consumptive culture of ours is going to die very hard."
As he leaves the store, he admits that he doesn't have much hope for the future. But he does, he says, have faith… in the potato. He'd dug one that morning in his backyard garden and fried it up for breakfast. At the memory, he smacks his lips.
Embrace our boringness
There are, cynics acknowledge, a few hopeful signs that mediocrity might take root amid a society that has, since the corporate scandals and economic turmoil of recent years, grown disenchanted with excess.
But first, we need to move past the idea's negative implications. Mediocrity is not about tastelessness. It's not about bad. It's not the Lada or carpet bowling or people who say, "Yo!" Mediocrity eschews the snobbishness of Calvin Klein for the practicality of Sears. Mediocrity does not go ga-ga over miniature summer squashes, when there are plenty of zucchinis -- grown locally, of course.
Mediocrity embraces home haircuts, tap water, elbow patches, Scrabble nights, and naps. Mediocrity celebrates the winners of the annual Darwin Awards for their fatal stupidity. They are the true heroes!
Mediocrity looks for guidance to Despair, Inc. -- a real business whose motto is: "Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations"; and whose logo features the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
Mediocrity has as its most respected voice the man who gave the commencement address at his Yale University alma mater in 2001 and said there was nothing wrong with getting Cs. He'd done it himself. The usual venue for his speeches has been The White House.
There are some who'd argue that the Truth is out there and that extraterrestrials lurk at the periphery of our vision. The Mediocrity Principle provides a simpler explanation.
Mediocrity says there are no aliens nearby in their flying saucers because -- despite humankind's efforts to simultaneously Disney-fy and destroy the planet -- the Earth is a boring destination for intergalactic travellers.
Now let's make sure it remains a liveable place for ourselves.
Related Tyee stories:
- Embrace the Collapse
Interview with The Upside of Down author Thomas Homer-Dixon - Canadians, Let's Get Happy
Next PM needs to reinvent how our country measures success. - Let's Cheer Our Defeat
Canada tried to un-ban 'terminator' seeds. Instead, 1.4 billion farmers won.





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quarry bay
3 years ago
Merry christmas
Bring on the chaos,if anyone thinks there will be an orderly dispersement of world resources is fooling themselves,there is only so much in the world.
We better choose sides,in Canada we have plenty of water,energy,grain farming land,the Americans don`t, if we don`t share it with them the Americans will take it!
Perhaps, I have indeed pondered that this money/credit crunch is manufactured, how better to stifle unabated growth then by taking away the money?
I believe in the chaos factor,WAR,LOTS OF WAR,man has never got along,religious war,ethnic wars,civil wars,hell even in scripture family members slaughter each other.
The day of reckoning is here,I may not have a big lake but I have a long secluded coast line,join me my freinds before it is too late,find your peice of heaven...tick..toc...tic....toc...ti...to...t........KABOOM
ME2
3 years ago
Yes, we have choices
There is food for thought for those people who have been wracking their brains while trying to find an Xmas gift item for people who already have everything (within a reasonable price range) they want or need. Maybe they should finally realise that they are looking full in the face at the so obvious wastefulness of our consumerist system.
Can we do more with less? Certainly we can. Do we need to buy a $50,000 vehicle every few years simply because it's been engineered to start breaking down by that time?
I happen to believe that a techno-fix for over-consumption in almost every facet of our life-style is possible, and that the only thing standing in the way are businessmen gov'ts dedicated to destructive, ever-growing GNPs.
These people and their policies will always deliver the "meltdowns" we are seeing today, and as they exploit the percieved natural "surplusses" beyond sustinability, one after the other, the meltdowns are becoming more routine.
Chaos, as the article suggests, looms in full view ahead.
alive
3 years ago
Blame the advertising!
Chaos is coming!
As long as the media is driven by commercial interests, the masses will keep believing that nothing can go wrong!
At the moment they accept a bit of a setback, but unless they themselves are hurt, they feel assurred that given a year or two we can go back and become complacent again.
Complacent really describes the average Joe, as the article points out here at Xmas time we realize that everybody has more "stuff" than they know what to do with.
We have reached a time where it is difficult to dispose of perfect stuff, because nothing but the latest version is acceptable to anyone.
If change is to happen it will take world-wide control, to stop the influence of commercial interests, and to start a new campaign to make people begin to live sensibly.
In a world where no two nations can agree on much, it seem impossible that we can get anything but chaos.
rac
3 years ago
Think of a Better Name for It
Quite frankly, we have already embraced mediocrity. That is the problem. We use a lot of resources creating a lot of crap. What we need to do is produce less using few resources and produce better results.
Cheap energy and resources have made us lazy and stolen our creativity. This has created mediocrity. The way forward is to demand excellence.
ME2
3 years ago
Yes rac, screw mediocrity
If we dispense with the frills that substitute for quality, excellence can once again become the goal of wise spending that I remember from my childhood days.
Peter Dimitrov
3 years ago
Check your head on this "New" Idea: Part I
I was willing to entertain the hypothesis until I read this sentence: "the big rock you inhabit is as ordinary as phlegm."
...and it is a sentence that I disagree with and find objectionable. First, desipte the bold assertion, where is the evidence from the author of the actual existence of even one planet other than Earth that is so teeming with life, so filled with genetic biodiversity, so full of natural capital and ecological services as this planet. Not one iota of evidence, except the assertion that "300 distant' planets have been found by Hubble. The mere fact that 300 distant planets has been found, is no grounds to resort to the patently unreasonable & speculative assertion that "the rock we inhabit is as ordinary as phlegm". That is why I disagree.
As to why I object to the assertion is that the metaphor is similar to what was used by Ronald Regan, who in authorizing increased industrial logging of the Redwood forests was reputed to have said" if you've seen one redwood, you've seen them all". In fact, underlying the deconstructionist assertion that this earth is as common as phlegm is an attitude that asserts that because it is so common, we are free to legitimize corporations/governments and ourselves to carry on unbelievable destruction of multiple, even global ecosystems in the name of material "progress" and consumerism, we are free to throw away this planet, throw away hundreds of animal & plant species, and throw away just like "phlegm" countless billions of people who constitute the poor, the excluded, the homeless. It is an attitude that says, since Earth is so common we can just do whatever we want for the material "god of progress", to benefit the privileged few, because there is always another place to steal and commodify where the grass may be greener, where there is a $ to be made, where externalities need not be counted. This is not a New Idea, it is an old consciousness, an old mediocrity, an old myth that needs to be ushered out the door together with Stevie Harper, neo-liberal capitalism and its adherents in the scientific and university world.
Peter Dimitrov
3 years ago
Check your head on this "New" Idea: Part II
What is a New Idea, is that Earth is a pretty special place, it is equally home to all species, including human, that its bioproductivity and biodivesity is incredible, it has a rich and diverse human culture and that we need to stop being greedy kids with limitless 'wants' and grow to our full potential as a mindful and compassionate species. We need to shift from the mediocrity of treating this planet, other species and the billions of impoverished excluded humans as "common pieces of phlegm/" to trash and throw away. We need to shift our consciousness away from mediocrity to an attitude of mindful compassion that gets it" that for all species on Earth there is no place called "away", there is but one Earth, and we need to cultivate much more respect, tolerance, a lighter ecological footprint, and much more sustainable and mindfully compassionate human presence on this planet....and in doing so we will be happier, wiser, and will have fulfilled more of our positive and creative potentials as humans. Perhaps this article was meant as satire, but whatever, I say check your head before accepting this "new" idea. This is not, in my estimation a new consciousness for the new year or a new century. Tyee, you can do much better!
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Live Richly
Evolution, after a hideously long start, finally resulted in the emergence of a species--homo sapien sapiens--which is capable of doing something other than participate in the eat or be eaten "ethos" that was the only story the universe had to tell 'til that point. Nothing should be treated with disrespect, but neither the Earth nor the Universe is to be looked to for wisdom.
The way forward is to imagine life as something we deserve to enjoy very richly. It is to continue to see in the everyday so many new opportunities to play and grow. We should treat those who feel the need for dopamine fueled episodes of narcissism--I'm King of the World, type stuff (forgive me James Cameron--I very much still did enjoy your movie!); but also those who feel the chronic need to downplay their own life's gains, to characterize the life they *prefer* to live, as mediocre.
Fiat lux
3 years ago
The solution is the correct
The solution is the correct definition of economic efficiency, which is the same as physical or engineering efficiency, and not the presently used and taught fraudulent version of "The bigger monetary profits for the least monetary inputs".
As wrote in my 1991 Principle for the Application of Physical Efficiency to Economics:
"12. Our economic systems are based on the misuse of words, concepts, mathematics and accounting. No sane person wishes to go back to primitivism, or musclepower, but there must be new, democratically controlled determination of when, how far and for whose benefit convenience may, or must overrule the concepts of true efficiency within the recovery capacity of the environment and humanity"
The present fraudulent economic theories started with religions, giving certain sectors "divinely ordained" exploitation and screwing powers. In short, the biggest club wielded by the biggest bum was by the Will of God.
Nothing has changed, only the methods of fraud, still divinely ordained by a new priesthood, now called economists, who are responsible for the vast majority of environmental and human degradation, assisted by ideological prophets determining who the biggest crooks, with the biggest destructive powers, are permitted to be.
Not even politicians dare to question the crap being taught in our universities as economics and forced on Earth as the Will of the Almighty Money God, who has no physical form, but lives and gives his orders through screwball figures in computers only the anointed priesthood can interpret and pass on to governments.
Until this criminal idiocy is knocked over, humanity has no future, except total enslavement and self destruction.
Ed Deak, Big Lake.
BC Mary
3 years ago
Conservation vs Exploitation
All my life, I seem to have been waiting for people to realize what Daniel Woods is explaining here about the finite nature of the planet we live on.
And all my life in B.C., I have seen and lived the struggle between the conservers and the exploiters. Who's winning? Well, just look at who's running the province right now and what they're doing to the basic elements: the rivers, the forests, the oceans. Especially look at the relentless struggle to preserve the A.L.R.
Therefore, these are the lines from this excellent article which scare me most:
"As Homer-Dixon sees it, there are two human options for the future: 1) capitulation to drastic worldwide regulations and limits…or 2) chaos.
"To achieve the former, there'd have to be restrictions on consumption and on freedoms that -- to use Homer-Dixon's phrase, "would be Holland -- times 10." It would be a world of unimaginable technocratic order, enforced mediocrity, and eco-police."
How easy, with a keyboard, to describe the future world that way.
But anyone can see that it's Organized Crime that already has the upper hand on order, mediocrity, and police ... and judging by what we already know, we should assume that -- unless we get our Good Guys act together -- Organized Crime will have an iron grip on a future of unimaginable, enforced mediocrity. The signs and symptoms are all in view, right now. The Bad Guys are winning here, there, everywhere.
There's still time for caring people to reach out and trust one another -- to s.t.f.u. and unite to do better.
But if we can't face the visible reality of Organized Crime ... we are providing the prerequisite for that unimaginable regime to be ushered in officially and permanently.
Umslopogaas
3 years ago
Lightbulb?
Why are you using a light bulb that is a proven mercury hazard to promote your ideas?
snert
3 years ago
Ed Deak
This is a fact of life and it will never go away. In order to be successful in life one has to learn to navigate through the idiocy. You can't do that if you are not exposed to it.
Be careful what you wish for Ed. It could bring about the demise of that which you hold dear much quicker than you think.
BC Mary
3 years ago
http://www.truthout.org/122308E
Let's Not Conceal the Criminal Dimension of the Financial Crisis
Tuesday 16 December 2008
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by: Jean-François Gayraud and Noël Pons, Le Figaro
Deploring the imbrication of crime and criminal monies in the financial system, authors Jean-François Gayraud and Noël Pons quote Paul Newman's character Henry Gondoff in "The Sting," "No sense in being a grifter if it's the same as being a citizen."
Jean-François Gayraud, divisional commissioner of the National Police, and Noël Pons, adviser at the Central Service for the Prevention of Corruption, establish a connection between criminality and the financial crisis.
No one contests that the subprime crisis has both structural (the orgy of credit) and cyclical (the bursting of the real estate bubble in the United States) dimensions. However, no one appears to see the criminal aspects of this globalized financial crisis. A surprising omission, since history teaches us that all financial crises "contain" a criminal dimension, either by the intrusion of organized crime, or by the repetition of criminal operations committed by normal market actors; and sometimes also through the association of these two universes. In our comments, we desire neither to reduce a systemic crisis to gangsterism, nor to flush out any improbable scapegoats, but rather are concerned to remind everyone that crime - whether organized or not - infiltrates everywhere where money reigns, including the financial markets.
Also see below:
Economic Crisis and Criminality •
... Crime accompanies, amplifies and sometimes provokes financial crises. Besides, how can one not be troubled by the strange public alert American Attorney General Michael Mukasey launched in May 2008 on the growing threat to national security represented by "organized crime's penetration of the markets?"
Practically everyone seems to have obscured the fact that the Western world has already lived through two big crises with a strong "criminal smell" during the 1980-1990 period, also in a context of careless real estate lending and market deregulation ...
quarry bay
3 years ago
Dazed and confused
Consumerism,I watch in amazement as this human paradox unfolds, where best to observe this but in the MALL(Maul)
Modern man driven in mass to these modern shrines, similiar to the pilgramage to Mecca, I watch this ritual in amazement,the individual actions repeated by the millions around the world,like the moth to the flame or a salmon to his home stream to spawn and die.
These people know not why they are there,they only know that they must buy,the slow year long push which blossoms into a frenzied aquisition state,like horned elk in combat over mates the "buyer" is consumed in this subtle but unstopable religion.
People talk,claim the righteous path but who among you can do it? Who are those that wait for days at an airport,the salmon to the stream,the religion of consumption.
The community garden for mankind,kumbia,share the herbs? No,a prickly thorn with barbs and tentacles that will consume the garden.
Peace on earth...and good will to man....that is the ulimate human paradox!
I`ll see you hell Johnny
Fiat lux
3 years ago
Snert.....I've survived
Snert.....I've survived fascism, nazism, communism and, even at my age, I hope to survive capitalism and see the world waking up and stop following the rule of the same predators of every age, regardless what flag they wave and scriptures they pound.
Merry Christmas to all !!!!!!!!!!
Cheers, Ed.
alda
3 years ago
Two Paths and Mediocrity
Of the two roads from which humanity could choose, chaos has already been chosen -- logic having long since been left in the dust by a fickle, foolish, duped North American public leading the rest of the world over the cliff's edge. To my reckoning, that happened just about the time of the creation of the atomic bomb and the advent of the new, post-war industrial age.
As for embracing "mediocrity"... I prefer to call it "the small." Living the simple, good life - healthy gardening practices, close community, supported by local, renewable crafts and industry - doesn't have to be mediocre - but could be beautiful, inherently workable, and yes, small.
The best 2 lines in anything I've read this entire year come from Wood's essay above:
"As he leaves the store, he admits that he doesn't have much hope for the future. But he does, he says, have faith… in the potato."
I say Amen to that.
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Not Wanted On This Journey
Alda says: "Living the simple, good life - healthy gardening practices, close community, supported by local, renewable crafts and industry - doesn't have to be mediocre - but could be beautiful, inherently workable, and yes, small."
Sounds excellent, but can I bring my Xbox? I don't want to spend all my time knitting.
Buck Two
3 years ago
The Planet Pleasantville Prophecy
Rent George Lucas' THX 1138 and see another take on how human relationships might be shaped in some future Pleasantville.
greengreen
3 years ago
Tyee doing great!
Peter Dimitov, a few commenters back..... I liked your take on this article and think that the author agrees with you, but was taking a different tack.
For this, I disagree with your last comment, "Tyee, you can do much better." Your great comment was fostered by this article, and such an interplay of ideas is what Tyee strives for. Yeah, Tyee.
lynn
3 years ago
the mediocrity of mass appeal/globalization
For me, this article is based on a false assumption - that embracing mediocrity will somehow act as a redeeming force. Quite the opposite I think.... for to embrace the principle of mediocrity expounded on here one would have to see a violet as quite an ordinary thing, the long epic journey of butterflies as rather ho-hum and the liquid mercury splendour of the moon reflecting on the ocean at night as...well, "predictable."
I think it is more that we have lost our sense of wonder.
We no longer recognize what is truly extraordinary...and we have replaced the wonder and "the rush" that comes with that wonder with... to use a biblical phrase: "false gods".
Most of our precious and irreplaceable...and very short "time" on this wondrous earth is now being spent on the selling and worship of those "false gods."
That's gotta be mediocrity itself...not to mention real stupidity.
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
The Gardening Lion--Maybe If We Continue to Aspire and Dream
It's too bad that in order to be Progressive you've apparently got to love nature too. Myself, I don't much like swamps. I'm not sure if I'm all that big on fir trees, either. I guess when it comes to nature I'm mostly in the Annie Dillard camp--you know, amongst those that see quite a bit of amazing beauty in nature, but a good hunk of absolutely horrifying muck as well.
It'd be cool to be allowed to be progressive and really prefer cities, urban landscapes--wo/man made stuff. It'd be nice to be able to count oneself as progressive and most be focussed on all the amazing particularities and beautiful variances in high end designer goods, rather than those in nature.
It'd be nice to know that no one could say of progressives--"You've seen one progressive, you've seen them all"--and be readily believed.
And I still think that progressives ought to be those who, when they see some poor starving lion snacking on some poor baby antelope, would find themselves drawn to think, "you know, we've really got to stop all that needless suffering. " Who'd hear talk of the beauty of ecosystems and the horrors of human intervention, and still find themselves thinking, "you know, I'd still prefer it if those starving lions stopped munching on those baby antelopes--Maybe we could encourage them to garden..."
dorothy
3 years ago
Do tell indeed
"..the eat or be eaten "ethos" that was the only story the universe had to tell 'til that point."
- What point was that? This has changed?
Madoff/Enron/bcrail/Eron/etc.,etc.,etc.
Is there in fact more than one used planet in our cosmos already? I am sure we don't live on the same one.. Do enlighten me, someone..
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Dorothy
Hi Dorothy. Happy holidays!
If you are human and are treated kindly, lovingly in your childhood--the reptilian part of your brain not withstanding--you will be a wholy (possibly sic) loving "entity." Most progressives have received a fair bit of love in their childhood--the "universe" they came to know at birth (and even before, in the womb) was often a very loving, fun place. They can be counted on to want others to experience the same and to do enormous good. And, ultimately, as they are the most creative/playful and least demon-haunted/fearful people about, the future is with them (thank God).
So to your list, I counter: Jim Henson/the Tyee/Greenpeace/Obamanation/the low-key, peaceful, recycling generation/etc. etc. etc. And also centuries of gradually improving standards for the treatment of all living things, despite periods of terrible regress.
The development of homo sapien sapiens, a species which has the capacity to be and, though in patches, is becoming, an entirely loving species, and the universe they are in the process of remaking, is best evidence that the truest story of the universe now is a love story. ("A coming-of-age tale" would be a very distant second.) Before true empathy emerged, there was simply darkness, naught but a horror story.
patrickmh
quarry bay
3 years ago
Patrick
Don`t forget to "click your heels"
And remember to say, "there`s no place like home,there`s no place like home"
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
If I Only Had a Heart
Thanks quarry bay (!), for ultimately I am arguing "there's no place like home, there's no place like home!"
P.S. Though it is possible, despite all her talk and suggested/apparent knowledge of other worlds, that she isn't the Dorothy you're referring to, do you think it possible that all my talk of lions with heart somehow summoned her?
(click my heels!, and poof!--I'm gone.)
lynn
3 years ago
for everything there is a season...
Just to add one thing in regard to the mediocrity principle - a principle which has, I think, the potential to evolve into a kind of puritanism.
It is not excess itself that is bad. Great art, great music, great loves and great ideas are often borne out of excess...excessive desire, excessive hunger...on and on.
The need for diversity and multiplicity are at the core of addressing this as well....that we don't value just one thing....to the detriment of all else. Like continually playing one note on the piano - 'til there is no music only noise....which is what globalization has done....produced a one-note hunger for sameness.
(And if like Patrick urban landscapes are your thing...and why not....just help to make the landscape you choose a livable humane one.)
quarry bay
3 years ago
Courage and a brain
My personal holy grail,will I ever find them,heart I have,what else could explain these salty discharges that regularly flow down my cheeks.
Courage to exstinguish the threats that reign on mankind`s parade,this powerful vision is replayed continualy in my dreams.
Brains fail me,for if I had them steps would be taken to fulfill the vision,the dream replays on and on yet my grey matter is unable to execute. Are we alone Patrick,you have the answeres,I have the heart,with a little courage and a functional brain we could achieve the solution.
Answeres Obama won`t deliver,maybe the Dali Lama,maybe that world Dorothy is familiar with is where my search will lead.
I am glad your youth brings a smile to memory,for I know no such smiles,I have but another salty discharge,Kansas,the Emerald city or the land of lost souls,my quest continues and perhaps,just perhaps a major depression will help us all find "courage and brains"
Quarry bay
ME2
3 years ago
Legalised theft.
Can our economic system be fairly called a criminal one? I can hear some of my friends snorting in derision at the idea. And a few hours ago I would have too, before I saw some posters state it above. One of them added the necessary word "deregulation" which flipped on the light for me. Beyond any question, what we are witnessing now is legalised theft, and all that is missing is the general recognition of it.
In the normal sense of the word, today's business practices are perfectly legal and therefore not "criminal". But very few of us here, I think, would argue that although the events which led to the meltdown were indeed legal, the perpetrators were far from following the high moral principles they and we profess to hold.
And so we've come to the full realisation of what happens to a society which loses its reliance upon ethical principles and comes to instead rely only upon legality for sorting out the differences between "right" and "wrong".
In rejecting the false morality that religiosity delivers, we've thrown the baby out with the bathwater by putting legal definitions in its place. The essential flaw in both systems is that they come to rely upon authoritarian force rather than persuasion to make their laws work.
That in turn opens the door for religious and political ideologues - authoritarians both - to take control of the system and use it to foster their own selfish ends, while promoting the false notion that what is good for them is necessary for the good of everyone.
This is particularly obvious in the political philosophy and practices of the Reformers who have duplicitiously co-opted the Conservative banner Federally, and the Liberal flag In BC.
These are the same people who have long railed against "Nanny gov't" intruding into people's lives, but who are all the while slowly introducing ever more regulations that constrict our freedoms. They want more and stricter laws to make us behave, even while they "deregulate" laws designed to keep business under control.
While these Reformers continue to thump their Bibles, they brazenly loot our natural resources to suit their Corporate donors and ignore even their own rules for proper governance, in actual fact blithely acting contrarily to all their professsed Christian beliefs.
What seems perfectly obvious is that for them Christian practice is what happens when you go to church, while business and political ethics are completely divorced from any observance of their so-called "faith".
dorothy
3 years ago
Now see here...
Capacity I will buy. It's just that so darn much can get in the way and too often does. We can be so incredibly perverse and projecting, not to metion inept or dumb or mean or petty.
Empathy? Some cannot afford it/muster it/ find it. I have a 'thing' that haunts me: A picture of a little girl, looking up, completely trusting, at whoever is 'up there', while she sits on the floor. Knowing what, or who, she did in fact meet with, and how it happend that she is not with us any more, this can make me toss and turn painfully.
There is such a long way to go. We need to remember that, or we will underrate the task.
And, you CANNOT go home again, neither to Kansas nor anywhere else. Home is something you create where you are, for yourself and others. Makie everybody feel at home, that is my agenda always.
rangergord
3 years ago
Mediocrity
As Homer-Dixon sees it, there are two human options for the future: 1) capitulation to drastic worldwide regulations and limits…or 2) chaos.
To achieve the former, there'd have to be restrictions on consumption and on freedoms that -- to use Homer-Dixon's phrase, "would be Holland -- times 10." It would be a world of unimaginable technocratic order, enforced mediocrity, and eco-police. Flagrant extravagance would be a crime.
That is the good option. To achieve the latter -- chaos -- Earthlings just have to keep doing what we're doing now.
And there it is, exposed for all to see, the sick enviro-fanaticism driving the eco movement today. Where eco-police will force you to conform, to save the planet. Exactly what dictators from the beginning of time have done, use a crisis to enforce their will upon the people.
lynn
3 years ago
Dorothy
Quote:
"Make everybody feel at home, that is my agenda always."
That's a lovely thought, Dorothy...and a great principle in itself.
Merry Christmas to you.
margot
3 years ago
start with santa claus?
People are reviled for refusing to do the Santa dance with their children.
Santa is about training children to pretend to believe the preposterous in order to get a material reward, however destructive and brain-sucking the "reward" may be.
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Margot
Well, if the material reward is an Xbox 360, it can stimulate the brain and maybe even provide spiritual uplift. Have you ever played Star Wars' Battlefront? I know, I know--it's an old game, but it's still my very favourite!
margot
3 years ago
Battlefront?
Battlefront? I rest my case. I'd rather children sat on the snow by the river and watched swans.
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Taking it Out and Chopping it Up!--Battlefront!
Margot, river-side, swan watching might be just the thing gardening lions might one day come to prefer, but for children already half frozen by the after-shocks of 9/11, better parenting advice comes from those such as Royal Tenenbaum, who advocate unrestrained, active, mobility:
"I'm not talking about dance lessons. I’m talking about putting a brick through the other guy’s windshield. I’m talking about taking it out and chopping it up!"
dorothy
3 years ago
Lynn
Thank you, and the same to you. You should also know, that your forthrightness and ability to see an issue all the way into the obscure corners and put that insight into words, has many a time made me feel more at home!
dorothy
3 years ago
Nick-names and such
“Santa is about training children to pretend to believe the preposterous in order to get a material reward”
I believe the first preposterous thing they have to believe in is the figure himself! And preposterous he is; he could be likened to a bear with a siphoning tube going into his gall-bladder, held captive to accommodate the raw greed of men (and women – OK?)
‘Santa’ started as a chieftain/priest of sorts, red-and-white clad (in order to commemorate the psilocybin-laden plant that could send him flying), who would do some magic stuff somewhere in the Eurasian steppes to mark the winter solstice and entreat the powers that be, to once again let the sun ‘turn’ and give his people another summer and growing season.
The sad story of how he ended up as the big-bellied entity we are now seeing in stores and such places, peddling goods, is too long to tell here, and probably most people know at least snatches of it from here and there. I only want to send you a link to a look at the real thing, which you may choose to show your children, thereby opening a new line of possible ‘education experience’, which is supposed to be the thing right now.
In a mound grave around Porogi in the Ukraine, dated to the first century ACE, remains of the costume shown in this drawing was found, together with tools and belongings marking the buried person as being of high rank. Gerry Embledon drew the picture based on the finds in the grave. Osprey Publishing in Oxford holds the copyright, and the picture may not be reproduced elsewhere without their permission. But you can show it to your children and tell them the story:
http://www.verasir.dk/
The whole web site is in fact wildly interesting, but most of the text is written in Danish. I have said before, that English is a Danish dialect, so matybe it is possible to get quite a bit of information out of it. The pictorial stuff is grrreat.
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Psilocybin Plants! Christmas Treats!
So in the old days in the Eurasian Steppes, they depended on some patriarch pleading with withholding deities, just so there might be another tomorrow?
How awful!--Glad that tale's pretty well buried in the junk heap of history. (And what's wrong with the nice old guy handing out gifts, again?)
Also, Dorothy, we've now got lions and bears in play--two out of three: don't disappoint! (Though in a pinch we use some of that "psilocybin-laden plant," which sounds delightful, and surely has multiple uses!)
dorothy
3 years ago
Don't like the choices offered? Try this...
‘..there are two human options for the future: 1) capitulation to drastic worldwide regulations and limits…or 2) chaos.’
Nah, none of them sell to me. I like this one better:
“He is a people in himself, and has no need of building up an artificial whole by the massing of numbers together. As soon as he has settled in a place, for a little while or for a length of time, a law-thing shoots up out of the ground, and about it grows a community. Whether his sense of social order finds scope to form a kingdom, or is constrained within narrower bounds, it is a tendency deep-rooted, part and parcel of his character itself.”
From The Culture of the Teutons, written by Vilhelm Grönbech, in 1931, can be found here:
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/gronbech/titles.php
Now if we could bring up lots of leaders of such type in the next generation, mediocrity would not be a necessary cop-out for mankind. But it would require a shift from the right to be a couch potato in style as the highest reward for hard work, to never really thinking one ‘needs a vacation’.
The quality School program, which had some wind in its sails here a number of years back, but has now been reduced to an obscure fringe effort, had some of the seeds for such a training: the ‘reward’ (the philosophy does not believe in externally applied rewards) for good work was not a gift or a gold star, but added access to tools to do even more advanced work. This progressive support was known as ‘validation’.
Same as the Teutons: When you had proven your skill with a wooden sword, you were given one made of steel. In our society, you do not spend years tinkering with and driving an old, cheaply bought jalopy, you either have the new shining Accord, or you have nothing. It’s the rules and regs, you see. They got us by the balls. It is about finding places ‘they’ haven’ t got to yet, if you want your children to grow up with some backbone and air under their wings. But ‘they’ do not like it. Reflect once more on all those ‘compund’ situations, where people are holed up, and our finest hone their hunting instincts. The crime of the inhabitants more often than not are not so much the couple of unregistered guns or the unpaid water taxes (although they’re idiots for making themselves so vulnerable), but rather that they don’t need anybody else in order to live heir life. Can’t have that. We always hear how ‘reclusive’ these people are. What’s the harm in being reclusive? Think about it, and reply if you think of an answer.
dorothy
3 years ago
What are you saying?
‘some patriarch pleading with withholding deities, just so there might be another tomorrow?
How awful!--Glad that tale's pretty well buried in the junk heap of history.’
Not clear. Is it the ‘withholding deities’ that are buried? In that case, what issue is it we are addressing here? I thought it was precisely about those deities doing their thing to our inconvenience, and how we are going to deal with it.
Why is history a junk heap? Do you say that in recognition of official, academically rubber-stamped history being full of junk (such as ‘Danaos” in the Iliad being fixed up with 25 helpful suggestions as to its origin, when in fact we have living people today known as ‘Danes’)? Or, do you consider the effort to search out history as junky?
‘(And what's wrong with the nice old guy handing out gifts, again?)’
Nothing’ wrong with handing out gifts. That is what Jolnir (connection with Yule, or in Scandinavian languages, Jul) did in the old days, but they were gifts, not a lie about not fleecing your parents in order to make them available.
Long live the potlatch!
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Hoped for Tigers, but got Teutons, instead
Dorothy said: "But it would require a shift from the right to be a couch potato in style as the highest reward for hard work, to never really thinking one ‘needs a vacation’."
You might want to talk to margot, for she would have us sitting still in snow, watching swans.
Dorothy also said: "The quality School program, which had some wind in its sails here a number of years back, but has now been reduced to an obscure fringe effort, had some of the seeds for such a training: the ‘reward’ (the philosophy does not believe in externally applied rewards) for good work was not a gift or a gold star, but added access to tools to do even more advanced work. This progressive support was known as ‘validation’."
This is what's great when Santa gives you an Xbox! In most games when you play well, blasting away at all these invaders like some crazed Teuton, you unlock special abilities/tools which give you more things to experiment with, and more resources to take on the advanced levels. (And you know, I have always thought of it as a tool Progressive educators could use.)
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Tribal Rights
Feminist/New Historical/Post-Colonial critics have all been about showing History up, and they're right to do so. Many would still romance the tribal, but since this usually involves finding ways to make palatable things like child sacrifice, wife exchanges, communal rapes, wanton destruction of resources (in potlatches, and elsewhere), and continuous warfare, this tendency will likely slip quite a bit as Progressives find themselves effectively pressed by the Right for their "defense of the indefensible" (a phenomenon we've seen recently when the Right casticated the Left for its support and defense of patriarchal muslim nations such as Iran. [The Right sensed a way of using the current progressive "ideasphere" against progressives, in a way the public could get behind. Expect much more of this, in the future].).
I am progressive, by the way. One who knows well that such things as the European rape/conquest of the world was often justified by identifying it as an attempt by the "civilized" to end the horrors of wife burning and the like.
(And yeah, that's another thing: Are you allowed to call yourself progressive if you have some not so nice things to say about the potlatch?)
dorothy
3 years ago
Patrick McEvoy
There are two possibilities for how I might interpret this:
1) You really do not see the difference between being out there with the wind though your hair, feeling your blade slicing through the air, and the virtual stuff, sitting in front of a box, ‘doing things’ in a second-hand kind of way. Or,
2) You are just joking around with me. I tend to believe the latter. Kindest that way.
I have no idea what ‘crazed’ Teutons would do. Never met one, as most Teutons are of extremely sound mind. If you are not just spouting words thoughtlessly, your assertion here borders on an ethnic slur. If you are talking about the berserker tradition, you need to read up on it. These people were not ‘crazed’, but inviting self-sacrifce with open eyes in order to protect their people and its turf, no matter the price. They ingested herbal extracts in order to be able to overcome distraction from their purpose and pick up the last bit of courage to do the necessary. They did not have an X-box to do their thing with, and they knew it.
“..You might want to talk to margot, for she would have us sitting still in snow, watching swans.’
Not ‘us’, but children. They are not vacationing by watching swans. They are learning. I met a swan, when I was so young that it was taller in the grass than I was. I thought to share my danish pastry with it, but it took the whole thing out of my hand. That little encounter taught me LOTS.
It is not cool to twist people’s citations as you have done with margot’s. It is one of the things that make me believe you are not serious. Well, you have had your fun, then.
Til aars och Frith. Old Norse for ‘skoal’.
dorothy
3 years ago
Patrick, Patrick...
“Many would still romance the tribal, but since this usually involves finding ways to make palatable things like child sacrifice, wife exchanges, communal rapes, wanton destruction of resources (in potlatches, and elsewhere), and continuous warfare, this tendency will likely slip quite a bit as Progressives find themselves effectively pressed by the Right for their "defense of the indefensible"
I am talking about the basic idea of gift-giving and sharing. Other times, other mores. Judging retrospectively is a useless exercise. Learn, yes, judge, no.
I do not care what label people put on their warfare. It is always about lebensraum, no matter the ideological labels that people might slap on. Those are only for unifying the people and make them march to a drummer.
I am not progressive, whatever that may mean. I think we need the past to get wise from, the present to exercise that wisdom, and the future will shape itself to the best it can, if we have done those things.
You sound really confused. Are you OK? Speak to someone you trust about these things. You sound far too old to worry aboiut what you are allowed to call yourself. Don't even think about it. Others will call you things.
realisticman
3 years ago
The NEW-BIBLE Thumpers - The Religious LEFT!
Hallelujah baby, these eco-lefties are not only going to be the New Progressive Dictators but they are the ground troops for the Religious Left. They're coming down from The Mountain with The Truth and if the Relious Right though they were special then that's too bad whackos, your time's up. Now it's the Religious Left that have it right and they are here to "save humankind from its own bloated sense of superiority and greed." How could any heathen disagree?
The hymnbook is being written as we speak.
"The Earth today is facing one of those planetary catastrophes that Gould and his doom-saying associates have often spoken about.
The planet's systems are breaking down: global warming, economic disintegration, energy and food crises, the accelerating extinction of species, rampant pollution, AIDS, regional economic ghettoization (sic), and the threat of worldwide terror.
It's beginning to look as if the wackos carrying the placards reading "The End Is Nigh‚" are right. Unless… UNLESS: This planet's brainiest inhabitants accept that The Mediocrity Principle applies to them.
As Homer-Dixon sees it, there are two human options for the future: 1) capitulation to drastic worldwide regulations and limits…or 2) chaos.
Mediocrity eschews the snobbishness of Calvin Klein for the practicality of Sears. Mediocrity does not go ga-ga over miniature summer squashes, when there are plenty of zucchinis -- grown locally, of course.
Mediocrity embraces home haircuts, tap water, elbow patches, Scrabble nights, and naps."
Might be a good time to take a look at Sears Roebuck stock, it's trading at a quarter it was a year ago but according to the Religious Left Sears is kosher.
quarry bay
3 years ago
Tops,yoyo`s and slinkies
Are my toys not educational? What better gift than a soccer ball,it promotes togetherness,teamwork.People shouldn`t get stuck on the "gift" My favorite gift is a heart squeezing emotional hug or a homemade blueberry pie.
Have you heard the story of the guy selling hot air balloons? The hot air balloon salesman makes his pitch,"hot air balloons 10.000.00$ come em get one"---Customer " What would I do with a hot air balloon" ----Salesman" Psst, we have a big sale on today, 2 for the price of one"---Customer " SOLD "
Boxing day sale,new years sale,1/2 price junk
As for watching swans,I would prefer to watch re-runs of the TRAILER PARK BOYS or GILLIGANS ISLAND, anyways,I have new underwear to try on and where the hell am I going to park 2 hot air balloons?
P.S. The balloon salesman is a great hugger!
Merry Christmas all,remember to give to the food bank.
realisticman
3 years ago
Let's hope they tell us...
...so we can get in at the bottom.
"Unless… UNLESS: This planet's brainiest inhabitants accept that The Mediocrity Principle applies to them."
Please Daniel, do keep us posted as to what these wonderful brainiest inhabitants of the planet decide, I'm running out of fingernails to bite!
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
Others
Dorothy:
You can't say on the one hand that you shouldn't care what others say about you, and talk about not judging others, and still caution me that what I say "borders on an ethnic slur." (Yikes!: I sense a trespass looming with dangerous potential repercussions!)
About the Teutons: We disagree. I'm well read. Better, I'm more broadly informed, and know that reading more doesn't help when you're fixed on seeing things the way you want/need them to be. And no one who "invit[es] [upon themselves] self-sacrifice [. . .] "no matter the price" is going to be in the possession of an "extremely sound mind." Regardless of my age, I know enough of life to know that. I know too, that romancing those with suicidal tendencies amounts to a kind of cruel inattention.
About the swans: you might consider that when kids play their xboxs and watch television, they are learning too. (And I am definitely serious about getting folk to explore electronic games and popular shows, with more genuine curiosity.) The quality of the learning well depends on the game, of course.
And about margot: Are you sure she wasn't encouraging a kind of passivity that might not be as healthy as advertised? I'm not so sure, myself. Truly.
dorothy
3 years ago
..and back, and forth, and back again..
‘You can't say on the one hand that you shouldn't care what others say about you, and talk about not judging others, and still caution me that what I say "borders on an ethnic slur." ‘
See here, you are not adjusting your sights finely enough. I was talking about judging history, if you will recall. And I was not offering a moral statement, but simply saying it was pointless, seeing that it is, well, history, which we may learn from, but cannot alter by moral outrage. You, on the other hand, are a living person, acting today, and can therefore meaningfully be held accountable for your actions and statements. I am not calling you out for single combat, because you derogate some of my ancestors, but I am telling you that that’s what you are doing, and advising that you might consider making your emphasis in argument in a different and more imaginative manner.
I also said, that you should not worry about what others say about you. This is equally pointless, as you have no control over it. But you can make sure that they have good things to say, by being a good person. The rest will follow, or as Rhett Butler had it:'Those deserving of respect get it naturally. they don't have to demonstrate for it.'
“..And no one who "invit[es] [upon themselves] self-sacrifice [. . .] "no matter the price" is going to be in the possession of an "extremely sound mind."
It depends. If the guiding light in your life is looking out for number one, then I would agree. If that is not how you define yourself, you might get, well, Vimy Ridge. Are you branding those who ran into the hails of bullets there as insane or ‘crazed’? If you do not think that anything outside of yourself might be worth dying for, then I can tell you absolutely nothing that might be useful to you.
“And about margot: Are you sure she wasn't encouraging a kind of passivity that might not be as healthy as advertised? I'm not so sure, myself. Truly.”
Yes, I am sure. Where are you coming from intimating that other people’s views might be ‘not as healthy’, because they differ from your own?
One thing that comes through, very clearly, is that you’re not sure. Try to verbalise less and introspect more for a little while. Did you know that, all other things equal, amount of speech correlates positively with high blood pressure?
PatrickMcEvoyHalston
3 years ago
And so we do indeed have Tigers
You aim to be demonstrate yourself as peaceful, wise, and tolerant. But if you would "caution" me that what I said "borders on an ethnic slur," warn me that I might just be "meaningfully [. . .] held accountable for [my] [. . .] actions," in this PC culture, and not think you are participating in something really quite grossly violent and unjust, you are not wise, but a fool.
And yes, I think those who run into a rain of bullets are crazy. (This too, not allowed?) Wars are always the first option, never the last, and self-sacrifice is the easiest way to gain easy praise as a true hero. That is, it is not the hardest thing for one to do, but the easiest, and we need to find ways to let people know they won't be held up as examples to us all if they find themselves drawn to make this choice. There are much better ways to "serve the Nation" than to sacrifice oneself in one needless war or another.
Where the verbosity? Where the lack of introspection?
Or are you just in the mood to make insults?
Maybe yes:
"[A]mount of speech correlates positively with high blood pressure": Simply pointing this out, are you? Sounds like you might be up to something else. Maybe the same thing you were up to when you said, "You sound far too old to worry about what you are allowed to call yourself," that is, to provoke, perhaps find a weak spot, and strike.
dorothy
3 years ago
Enough is enough
You have chosen to get angry, and that is regrettable, for it effectively kills dialogue. Provoke? You cannot provoke anyone who chooses not to be provoked.
I would not be writing again now, if it were not to draw your attention – and that of others, who might not be reading back, to the fact that I never used the word ‘caution’. You did, and thus you are quoting yourself, but making it seem that you are quoting me.
I think this is dishonest, and you did the same thing with margot’s input, misquoting it. It must be a foundation kind of thing here that we stay honest, not twisting the words of others in order to try to win a point.
Same argument goes for your claim about me ‘striking’ at ‘a weak point’. This is not about winning and losing, but about learning together by exchanging viewpoints. Weak points are those we must hope and expect to be called on, for only that way can we progress.
About your age: I am not conducting ‘something else’, other than trying to put together what I see, so it makes sense. If I am wrong, simply tell me. I Make no bones about my own age and consider it a compliment that other people often ask me straight out, what it is, having correctly pegged me as a no-nonsense person. If you are sensitive about your age, too bad, but I could not know that.
“self-sacrifice is the easiest way to gain easy praise as a true hero. That is, it is not the hardest thing for one to do, but the easiest”.
Too bad that we can’t do exit interviews on this one, so we can claim whatever we want, right?
“There are much better ways to "serve the Nation" than to sacrifice oneself in one needless war or another.”
Name some, particularly ones you have practised, and show some damn respect for the boys and girls that are out there now, thinking they may be dying for people like you and me!
I am sure your son loves his X-box. Let it be done with that.
ME2
3 years ago
Dorothy
If it had been me, "enough" would have come immediately after reading the following wowser :
"About the Teutons: We disagree. I'm well read. Better, I'm more broadly informed, and know that reading more doesn't help when you're fixed on seeing things the way you want/need them to be."
I admire your cool, lady.
dorothy
3 years ago
ME2
Thank you very much, and I hope you have a really great Holiday!
margot
3 years ago
dorothy, thanks
Hey, Dorothy, while I was out high-stepping through deep snow and sitting on a plastic bag, watching swans and more swans, eagles, vultures, huge flocks of ducks and seagulls, there you were, speaking out for me.
Thank you.
All I can add is that McEvoy doesn't seem to get the difference between "pacifist" and "passive".
realisticman
3 years ago
Make Love not War
"'Viagra lure' for Afghan warlords
America's CIA has found a novel way to gain information from fickle Afghan warlords - supplying sex-enhancing drug Viagra, a US media report says.
The Washington Post said it was one of a number of enticements being used.
In one case, a 60-year-old warlord with four wives was given four pills and four days later detailed Taleban movements in return for more."
BBC
margot
3 years ago
access to satellite porn in Kandahar, viagra
According to RAWA, access to satellite porn has been soaring in Kandahar. Just lovely. Just what women need in a war zone.
Most viagra use is for masturbation, but hey with desperately vulnerable women and children around, you can actually do "something" with it.
ME2
3 years ago
Likely very old news
With Viagra, etc, readily available by post through the web, besides being produced as Generics in close-by India, I very much doubt these drugs have been of much use to the CIA for some time.
dorothy
3 years ago
Real-istic man
Are you speaking to the concept of mediocrity?
realisticman
3 years ago
More to the irony...
...of..."They ingested herbal extracts in order to be able to overcome distraction from their purpose..."
dorothy
3 years ago
Oh, yes, I see.
I have not the experience of imbibing hallucinogens in any way, shape or form, as it works for me to listen to Ride of the Valkyries and such; it has the power for me to turn peeling potatoes into a shamanic endeavour.
But I have understood from those who do have the experience, that almost no type of ingested herbal extracts will give you anything completely new, which was never in your brain before, only simply make you more of what you already were, but which might have been overwritten or veiled by mundane or pesky distractions, or mitote as the toltec wisemen call it.
This, I believe, is how henbane and toadstool helped the berserkers. They knew what they were about. But moving out on the battlefield and facing the enemy, you need to be ruthlessly focused, free of all but one thought: Get them before they get me, even till they get me, and possibly beyond, for this is do-or-die day, and, for some of us, die-to-get-done day. I am sure the imbibing was accompanied by other exercises, which served to help the focusing.
About the Taliban warlords: these guys must be pretty jaded, seeing that women are falling by their feet. They simply need the strength to accommodate them all. I guess they are working up to the seventy (or has there been a rationing?) virgins…Is that a can of worms or a snake-pit?
morechatter
3 years ago
Don't Monkey Around With Me?
Or with my feeling or my shopping habits or how I pick my leaders for that matter as study after study is done by anthropologists to tap in on monkey brain's shopping habits and what makes them shop until they drop. Marketing firms take the most basic desires and try to wrap them up for 30 sec of entertainment and enticement to seal the deal as much is done to not only entice but to reinforce buyer's decisions. Its all about feelings good and bad alike as firms all eye the consumer's pockets with their desire to capture the contents within. And it seems not so long ago as a friend of mine shares her dreams of following Meed's passion only to find herself behind the desk of an advertising firm studying the biggest shopping monkey of them all, society.
morechatter
3 years ago
Born to Shop
http://www.lipmagazine.org/articles/featcook_124.shtml
And these group of kids will of course be under special watch as the dominance of the market place takes hold of their values and their self worth leaving them woefully inadequate unless they have the latest Barbie to leave at the bottom of a toy box with the rest of the life affirming toys. And here I though it was just more worthless junk and not some invaluable marketing stategies to insure the next bunch of up and coming consumers are hooked.