Carters Iran

What, pray tell, would be the purpose of the PM signalling an intention to attack Iran?
It's ludicrous to suggest such a thing.
That's up to Sarkosy and Hillary to promote.
Not Harper.
Now if such a thing occurs, let's say France send in missiles to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities, then NATO and the UN will get involved, and Harper simply has to say that Canada will help out, where it can.
If Hillary gets her way, this will be her first act.
Based on what she is saying in public that is.
Like her urging Bush to attack Iraq, how could we be surprised to see her support here?
Unless she's only misinformed again.

NO ONE is LISTENING? --- NOT!

There are plenty listening, sadly we are not in the halls of power any more.

Mostly because we have been 'retired' or 'moved on' since we do not support such madness as is directed by that organ-grinder The Man and his "Decider in Chimp" dancing war-monkey President, Clueless George.

Those whom remain behind are of the calibre of Rick Hillier, while popular with the troops whom have spent 30 years being dumped on by the ZOO on the Rieau (sometimes also known as NDHQ), has shown that he is woefully out of touch with the needs of a modern military commander. Whom needs the 'lightest touch' such as Eisenhower or Thériault or de Chastelain.

Commanders from Boyle onwards are from a generation of officers that are post-67 're-organization' and all suffer from a lack of independance in action as the supreme (canadian) military authority, in that they are nothing more than sub-ordinate to political appointees of the 'government in office'.

We now reap what we have sown with so many decades of mishandling of the military file.

The whole of the CF needs to be 'de-politicized' and I agree with General (ret) Lewis MacKenzie's assesment that all officers from Brigadier up need to be retired immediately, with many of the current colonels and lt. colonels paid off also.

Regarding the nuclear situation, the others 'absenting' in the IAEA chambers should be the telling part of the tale...the US has become a 'world bully' as was profesied to Stimpson in 1946.

Were the US to take such a unilateral action, (not likely as the Israeli military would likely do this job by proxy so as to keep the 'who started it?' question in the background) then the 'global village' that was so in support of the nation after the 9/11 events(now considered 'false flag') would be very likely to rise-up in total indignation.

As the US's closest physical neighbhor, Canada (along with Mexico) must make some statement about the sabre-rattling, as the drum-beat will soon be too loud to get our message across.

That message is:
STOP. THINK.

"Passion is governing now, and she never governs wisely." ~ from B. Franklin.

Its Tuesday, it must be Hitler

He's crazier than Hitler? Have you ever read any Hitler?

What part of Greater Iran has he annexed so far?

Haven't there been about 15 "Hitlers" in the past 20 years? The problem with painting everybody as Hitler redux is that the whole Hitler thing gets worn out.

Besides Iran's leader wasn't the one that used a "Reichstag fire" to pass a new "enabling" act.

Personally I'd like to see more variety, how about "he's a new Louis the Fourteenth!" or "a new Julius Ceasar!".

Even a "new Mussolini" might get a bit more of a rise than the constant "new Hitler" thing.

Concealed by CanWestGlobal

As per normal, our media monopoly is firmly asleep at the switch, ensuring that no public debate occurs over Bush's 3rd war. History will record that while significant world events were unfolding, led by US agression, our society was kept in the dark by silence and misinformation of our media. While public media used to play a role in democracy, those days are long gone. It is a complete travesty that our government has permitted the concentration of ownership in this vital area of free speech. So even if every single Canadian is talking about the pending invasion of Iran (which many are) the elites can contintue to pretend it isn't happening. A carefully developed system of misinformation. Great articleTyee and Mr. Dobbin.

Beware, Harper and the other Bush sycophants

Bush is extremely possessive of his contrived wars. Should he start another against Iran, I fear those who join in the assault may suffer consequences that may make 9/11 appear small potatoes. And should Canada be one of those attackers, it will likely find it needs to become as much a police state as the U.S. will have embraced.

Silence is not the answer. If our government is not speaking out against a war against Iran, it may be assumed that it is in favor of one.

I agree

I couldn't agree with Jeffrey more.
When you look at every single one of our political quagmires, lack of public comprehension inevitably circles back to the abrogation of responsibility by our media in reporting the real story.

The most angering aspect of the mainstream media's role as war criminal accomplice, is that we pay in one way or another for theose lies and omissions, most obviously for our national media - the CBC, which has become one of the worst offenders. Until the media problem is addressed (and it never will be, imo, as long as global corporations have power), this will only continue ad nauseum.

The most blatant example of misreporting?
The fact that most Canadians have no idea why we're truly in Afghanistan, no idea that we're there, as with all wars, for the stealing of resources or land by which to access those resources. There's no understanding whatsoever that we're fighting in support of the U.S. bloodthirsty, desperate grab for Caspian Basin oil. Talk to ordinary Canadians about what we're doing there, and it's as if talking to the wind. 99 out of 100 Canadians actually believe that we're fighting over there to help "women to gain their rights" and to "put those Jihad terrorists out of business" nonsense. What non-thinking dupes we've become, and perhaps always have been.

Yes, Mr. Harper is in quite the deep canyon now. But, like all snakes, he's a clever manoeuverer through tight spots and dark crevices, and so it will be curious to see how he controls the p.r. on this piece of military manure, not if, but when it hits the fan.

I don't think we need to worry much about pee wee on this file

Vladimir seems to have it pretty much in hand:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/world/17iran.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

And please note this:

“We should not even think of making use of force in this region,” Mr. Putin said.

Mr. Putin’s comments and the declaration come at a time when France and the United States have refused to rule out military action to halt Iran’s nuclear energy program, which they believe masks a desire to develop nuclear weapons. Iran says its program is solely for peaceful purposes.

Asked this morning about Mr. Putin’s remarks, Tony Fratto, the deputy White House press secretary, said simply, “That sounds like a good policy.”

Mr. Putin arrived in Tehran today for meetings with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran and leaders from three other nearby Caspian Sea nations that have rich oil and gas resources, promising to use diplomacy to try to resolve the international debate over Iran’s nuclear program.

He was the first Kremlin leader to travel to Iran since 1943, when Stalin attended a wartime summit meeting with Churchill and Roosevelt. His statements, which were consistent with his past positions cautioning against military action against Iran, were nonetheless stark in their setting and firmly emphasized his differences with the United States over the extent of Iran’s threat and the means to counter it.

“Not only should we reject the use of force, but also the mention of force as a possibility,” Mr. Putin said. “This is very important. We must not submit to other states in the case of aggression or some other kind of military action directed against one of the Caspian countries.”

Mr Bush and the Americans won't be doing anything unilateral in this region again for some time, in my view.

The Israelis??? Now that's another question.

Harper

If there ever was a reason not to vote Conservative, this is it! Harper is a War Monger through and through. The media through its silence is aiding and abetting Harpers plans to support the US by keeping this story silent.

I'm never been much of a Liberal supporter either, but the one thing I strongly admired about Chrétien was his consistent stand against war. He kept us out of Iraq, while Harper was in favor of the war.

We need a Prime Minister who is strong and brave enough to ensure our Canadian values are upheld, those of Peace Keepers. The Conservatives scare the hell out me. What kind of future does Harper really have in mind for us?

A bloody lapdog

Harper is nothing more than a lapdog to GW Bush.
His silence should make everyone really concerened. I really agree with the above poster about the media. It makes me so angry and sad. Politicians really do think the general public are totally stupid. Have we given them reasons to think otherwise? God knows we don't do anything and don't think that fact is not lost on our goverment either.

Harper has no spine but also no leg to stand on either. He is just a garden variety sociopathic sycophant.
And as much is about oil I wonder how much has to do with US fear of China, hence control the oil- control the world.

Lastly, there is no war on terror. One incident in 30 yrs on N.American soil? C'mon....
I will bet money that we will see another "9-11" type incident in the US though Canada would more useful to them { an inside job again of course....} in order to justify this new war in Iran.
It is totally insane to think the government would kill its own citizens to justify a war which why, as I tell everyone, it makes perfect sense.
Ain't nothing a government loves more than know its subjects are feeling hopeless.........

There is no need

There is no need for Hillary to attack Iran.
They only have refining capacity enough to supply 40% of their domestic oil needs.
Take out a refinery, and the Government will crumble.

Hiding the evidence...

...so if the American Armada uses nuclear weapons, but wants to pretend that they did not, I wonder if they can strike, and then blame any nuclear radiation on what they claim was in the targeted buildings.

Beginning of the 20th Century saw the major powers pushing their imperial holdings. An irritant between them was the race for the riches of Africa.
Seems to me that the past decade or so the great powers (well...one greater than the others) have been racing for control of the fossil fuel riches of Central Asia. In the past six years, with the obvious misuse of the UNO, and the acting out of pre emptive war rights, an accelerating arms race has taken place, with picking up of teams.

Sure hate to see my kids and grand kids endure a repeat of the blood baths of the 20th Century, but the war mongers are finding that the same snake oil still sells.