wait

Wait Mr. Gordon Campbell...I didn't mean it. Come back please.

A Typical Example of the Blight on this Land

Everything that an [UNSUBSTANTIATED CHARACTERIZATION REMOVED. -MODERATOR.] Gwyn Morgan stands for - divisive bigotry, subjection of this country to pure free market forces, environmental destruction, the dismantling of the government, perpetuation of thankless colonial ideals - is not only bad in and of itself, but will lead to the weakening and dissolution of our beautiful, free, and privileged country. Canada's sovereignty is already under attack, from our greatest allies and trading partners no less, and this man seeks to make us weaker. He is a traitor, salivating at the opportunity!

And what good will it do him in the end, if his wildest dreams come true? Doesn't this fool read history books?

Why?

Wasn't this information available to the people that voted for Clark? If not, why not?

Talk about a new broom..

Talk about a new broom sweeping cleaner...

If his profile is correct, the is more like one step forward and four or five steps backward.

Given all the 'nice' things Christy has promised, how does this Grinch fit into the package?

CClark ought not to be sworn in until elected as MLA

So on Monday, March 14, 2011, Christy Clark will be sworn in as Premier, along with her new Cabinet. Does anyone else besides myself think it more than unbelievable that our democratic rules allow a person unelected to the Legislature by citizens, (only elected by a majority of BC Liberal Party members) to be sworn in as Premier of this Province with immense powers of appointment, powers to make Orders-In-Council, powers to rule over and decide the fate of MLAs who are elected, powers to govern the people of this Province. Something is terribly wrong here, surely the test within our current screwball system must be - that to be Premier you must be both Leader of a Party and an elected MLA of the Legislaure. But no, seems the Queens Rep, our dutiful Lieutenant Governor, is going to swear Christy in as Premier and thereby grant her all the powers of that office - without her being duly elected by citizens as an MLA. This is unbelievable, that is yet another reason why I call this Democracy - THE Big Lie. (google: Peter Dimitrov - The Big Lie) to read that article or for more news follow me on Twitter: JusticeNow_2288

what a dysfunctional democracy we have in this province/canada. One wonders if and when citizens will reach the end of respecting and tolerating such a system - and demand change to the meta-rules that establish the system's design?

I don't think he's actually attended a Bilderberg meeting

yet. But he's well connected. No objection to selling Canada's water, either.

Remember when everybody worshipped the same god.

At the 2002 Ivey Business Leader Award, Morgan gave an acceptance speech which included this revealing statement, "The Old Testament," he intoned, "gave the world a universal truth: 'Where there is no vision, the people perish.' I believe it is time for Canada's corporate and political leadership to go back to the Bible, figuratively at least, until they get this message straight." You can find a biography here:
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0012432
I'll bet he figures that he can save us all especially when it comes to ignoring that science stuff and be prepared to have oil tankers and pipelines shoved down our throats.
When asked in an interview about his religious views, he had this to say,"I live with the idea there is a greater force at work in the universe, and celebrate that," he says. "But I haven't found in any of the conventional religions a fully satisfactory explanation. I'm kind of like a pre-Muslim, pre-Christian, pre-Jewish person. Remember when they all said there was a God and all worshipped the same one?"
As we can see, he is really quite the history buff. Yes Gwyn I remember too.

Attribution, please

He's Clark's "top transition team advisor."
Says who?

And you think things

And you think things couldn't get worse? With guys like him, who needs Gordo, Harper or Christy? People better smarten up and quit listening to all the right wing fanatics out there! They're the ones that created this whole mess worldwide. Banks, big corps, big government, big media. They don't give a cats meow about the "ordinary" people, it's about divide and conquer. Unbelievable!

Some of you are not getting right-wing politics

I've been watching the right pillage this land for years.

Bennett, Bennett,
Vandershovel and Campbell.

Different people, same agenda.

Anti-environment,and corrupt.

So now we have a new cute,bubbly woman running the right in BC.

It will be the same agenda.

Many of the people in BC will be fooled into voting for her.

Isn't the definition of insanity, ''Doing the same thing time after time and expecting different results''?

For a quick and dirty overview of right wing politics in Canada, I would urge you to read On The Take by Steve Cameron which is a book about the Mulroney years.

Corrupt politics has been the same in Canada since confederation.

And some people still claim..

...that Christy Clark is a centrist.

Very Interesting......

How much influence will Morgan have before the next election; hopefully the Liberals put their foot in it!

Where's The Interview With Morgan?

I like the info. presented but did Morgan get a chance to flesh things out? Respond? Talk beyond partial quotes?

YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come back Gordo ... we were only kidding!.

Advisor or Connections?

"Clark sought him out NOT for his contrary views on public policy issues, but for his stature in the business and corporate world, and his connections to the federal Conservatives."

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Liberal+leader+Clark+will+need+help/4357956/story.html

Aaah a vision.

The quote "'Where there is no vision, the people perish." is misused the same way that most extremist interpret the Quran. The "vision" does not refer to a vision of corporate greed. It also implies that only his vision is the one, which if you don't share it, might cause your demise. That kind of arrogance is typical of the BC Liberals and reflected in his S#@t-eating grin.

I couldn't be bothered

I couldn't be bothered reading the whole article. This guy's an *diot and we don't need him.

Advisor or Supervisor??

Christy Clark is going to do precisely what the big-boys want her to do, and they've installed Morgan as her supervisor to ensure she doesn't go too far astray or get big ideas of her own in the transition.

She's nothing more than a tool in their bid to retain power and continue to extract revenue from this province with as little overhead or regulation as possible.

Hallelujah!

Thank God (literally) for the Tyee ... your voice and clarity will keep ALL of our heads above water.

What I find interesting

What I find interesting about these predators is that they scream their heads off against unions and decent wages, while being the loudest members of the unions of the multinational corporate mafia, filling their pockets and tax haven bank accounts with monies and goods stolen from their employees and the public.

Ed Deak.

Apparently he was correct!

""It is my earnest submission that signing the Kyoto Protocol would go down in history as one of the most damaging international agreements ever signed by a Canadian prime minister."
PM Chretien and his do-nothing environment minister Stephane Dion DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to reduce emissions that they PROMISED by signing Kyoto. In FACT, all of Canada ignored Kyoto, didn't we?
NOT supporting him or CC, just laying out THE FACTS.

The fact that these

The fact that these politicians and big business are against Kyoto and all forms of environmental protection, plus the growing food bank lines are the strongest proof that

"Wealth can not be created, only taken....."

If wealth could be created, we wouldn't have poverty, crimes, wars and environmental destruction and speculator predators would have to work for the living.

Ed Deak.

Tielman delivers what could be Christy's fatal blow

That's quite an exposee. Well done. Essp in politics we are the company we keep. Never ever good particularly for the leader of a hillbilly resource-based economy to take advice from someone with such an obviously vested interest. Good reporting. Anyone else we should know about, Bill?

@Fiat Lux

As an intro to my comment and below, I'll reitterate Ed's last statement:

"What I find interesting about these predators is that they scream their heads off against unions and decent wages, while being the loudest members of the unions of the multinational corporate mafia, filling their pockets and tax haven bank accounts with monies and goods stolen from their employees and the public. Ed Deak."

Ed's is a point that is rarely skimmed upon (and never explicitly made) by big media. We know that it is not just the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group that are involved. The corporate union movement is active in nearly every community in Canada: and, it is brought to you through your local Chamber of Commerce. A local Chamber of Commerce is part of the larger Canadian Chamber of Commerce which, in turn, is part of the International Chamber of Commerce.

Here are 2 policy questions one finds anwered at the Canadian of Chamber of Commerce website:

"How does the Canadian Chamber of Commerce form its policy platform?
Each year, chambers of commerce are invited to submit policy resolutions through the Canadian Chamber’s policy resolution process. These policies are then debated before delegates at the Canadian Chamber’s annual general meeting held in the fall. Policy resolutions that are approved are active for a period of three years and reviewed each year for their relevancy.

"Who are the Canadian Chamber of Commerce’s members?
The Canadian Chamber of Commerce has a long-standing tradition of representing members from across the country. For over 75 years, the Canadian Chamber has represented chambers of commerce and boards of trade from communities large and small. Today we represent over 420 chambers, 85 business associations, and many corporate members. When the Canadian Chamber speaks, it speaks with a voice that is 192,000 businesses strong."

http://www.chamber.ca/index.php/en/services-and-programs/

This sounds like an incredibly powerful union to me - much more powerful than any of the trade/professional unions one finds in Canada. I wonder how many Canadian Chamber of Commerce Executive members are also members of organisation like the Fraser Institute and the Bilderbergers?

Plenty of platform issues for the NDP to develop

So can anyone tell me why the NDP is focussing their latest campaign on the HST issue that's relatively puny (and losing the public's interest, according to the failed recall campaigns) compared to these hot-button, winnable issues?

Instead of slamming the list of credible and hard-working environmentalists who are working to get strong commitments from the party leaderships on these very issues, why not work with them to develop a strong, coherent and relevant platform that will give the voters a real alternative.

The libs will always win on the easy tax issues because we haven't done a good enough job to explain fair taxation. But they have no credibility on the social and environmental side. TIme to take over that high ground and capitalize on the growing public concerns.

focus on HST

I agree with waterbaby. Hopefully NDP party HQ is paying attention to Horgan (and to a certain extent Farnworth) who is/are focusing on the energy policy, BC Rail, and such issues like in this article....the HST is just a piece of paper that can be re-written and/or modified to suit...the other issues are irreversible and who knows how many deals are getting signed during the smokescreen of leadership races and HST talk.

Fascism is back

Google the definition of fascism. It basically says it's a government system that seeks to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values and systems, including the political system and the economy.

When you look at what's going on in Canada under any Conservative government (by their own admission our BC Liberals are a coalition of Conservatives)they have the same agenda. They all want to turn control of our country over to corporations. Same thing in the US under the Republicans which is their Conservative party.

I'll let you call Gwyn

I'll let you call Gwyn Morgan "hard right" as long as you refer to Adrian Dix as "hard left".

Why do you get to decide where the centre lies?

A federal - provincial corporate crime scene

Well said, Conductor 274,

Here, through Christy Clark's, affiliation with Gwyn Morgan.....and with Morgan's ties to Harper.....we see those same right-wing extremist provincial- federal corporate ties.

The same federal-provincial ties, governmental/corporate lobbyists, can be found in the revealing fingerprints of BC's Great Train Robbery....to mention just one of many incriminating corporate crime scenes yet to be FULLY investigated.

And those same right-wing extremist provincial-federal ties.....can be found wearing the same bully jackboots supplied by foreign corporate interests, and custom-designed to decimate the precious social infrastructure of this country and redirect that vital social funding to satiate the ugly, monopolistic greed of The Ugly, Greedy Few.

It is time the electorate woke up and realized that despite the false tagging of the present bully regime as Liberals in BC.....they and the Harperazis are ALL right-wing extremists, that share the same distaste for the social values and social safety net that once made this one of the best countries in the world.

Send them ALL....

To the moon, Alice.

They should love it there - a world of arid, desolate craters - Fort Mac to the nth degree.

It is, after all, what their Dodo brains and their Dodo greed lust after - and it is how they are ruthlessly destroying this country.

The NDP is wasting time on

The NDP is wasting time on the HST, as it is a lost cause.

As are most of the present NDP policies, when the road is wide open to wipe out this whole corrupt mess, colonizing the province and enslaving people with dead end, self destructive theories.

I've been trying to warn the leadership for years and got "Sure thing Ed ! This is great,now how about a donation ?" Not from me kiddies, until I see some logic and willingness for actions in the policies.

Ed Deak.

Another Revolving Door

Nothing new here. How often have we seen these corporate neocons get positions in government and vice versa, in Canada and the U.S.?

The most famous was former Halliburton CEO and U.S. VP, Dick Cheney, but the list seems nearly endless in N. America.

This clown will do his damage to our regressing system and disappear back into the corporate world.
Madison, we're not far behind you.

Monday was politically depressing. Moe Sahota, when talking about fossil fuel development and exports, sounded like he worked for the Koch brothers. No NDP support for real environmental issues here.

6 weeks till the launch of Canada's version of Fox News north was announced. I wonder who Canada's version of Bill O'Reilly and Glen Beck will be.

Don't forget, many lefties went far right when economic times got tough.

Then this. How long will Gordo's (somewhat flawed) carbon tax survive, except for revenue purposes? Unless the NDP shows a major shift on environmental issues, I'll throw my vote away on the Greens.

Democracy? No matter who you vote for, nothing seems to really change, and these corporate elites keep sucking the life out of most of us.

Gwyn Morgan

is the definition of hard right.

Adrian Dix is not the definition of hard left.

Left, yes; but not hard left.

Donations

I did not find anything on the internet about a Morgan donation to the Fraser Institute but I did find the following headline:

"Former EnCana Corp. CEO and Wife Donate $1.375M to Honour the
Vitreo-Retinal Surgeon Who Saved His Sight"

EDITOR'S RESPONSE: YOU CAN FIND the source by looking at the bottom of page six of this Fraser Institute newsletter:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploadedFiles/fraser-ca/Content/research-news/research/articles/october-cuts-are-a-beginning-not-an-end.pdf

The same Gwyn Morgan?

Gwyn Morgan? Tell me it is not the same Gwyn Morgan who is chair of SNC Lavalin?

SNC Lavalin who built and operates the almost $2 billion RAV line under a P3 in BC?

SNC Lavalin got the half a $billion contract for the Waneta Dam expansion in BC?

SNC-Lavalin who is making upward of a $1billion in Libya in construction including building jails for Gadhafi?

Naw, can’t be

Not New

This was announced a couple of months back:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/clark-names-campaigns-economic-advisers/article1866448/

Here's a bio from 2003. Including interesting snips like this:

"He is an advocate of holistic medicine, not a common oil-patch preoccupation. EnCana is the primary corporate sponsor of the Integrative Health Institute, a Calgary-based non-profit organization that provides resource information and counselling on blending modern medicine with such traditional practices as acupuncture, meditation and herbal remedies. But this is no granola-and-incense exercise. Morgan is out to create a model for how people can take more responsibility for their own well-being and help contain spiralling health-care costs. "What we have in this country is an illness treatment system, not a health-care system," he says. "We need a more preventative approach and there's a lot of knowledge accumulated over thousands of years that can help in this regard." ..."

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0012432

Also...

Morgan is a trustee of The Dalai Lama Center for Peace and Education.

R/M old man....

Of course he is, the same way Big Pharma advocates vitamin and mineral supplements -- providing said vitamins and minerals become prescription only.

The Dalai Lama is a darling

The Dalai Lama is a darling of the right and was pretty much created by the CIA to pick the ring of mainland China...

Morgans' trying to appeal to all those ''round eyed Buddhists'' That James Taylor sings about.

Loved the article; keep 'em coming

on Chambers of Commerce...

SIG, I remember a while back that the local Chamber of Commerce chose to weigh in with their opinion on the site for a new hospital, using rather foolish wording to the effect that "they hoped a sound business decision would prevail". I, and others pointed out that 'business' had no place in making this decision...what was interesting about this minor event was the number of local businesses that came forward to say that the Chamber of Commerce did not speak for them.

I am not sure I would characterize Morgan and his ilk as belonging to a union, if for no other reson than the notion of brotherly and sisterly solidarity is alien to them. It is a weak point that we might do well to acknowledge and use.

This from a Vancouver Sun

This from a Vancouver Sun article 21 Sep 2009.....kind of makes you go hmmmmm....in a Tibetan monk sort of way?? or power generator sort of way??

Gwynn Morgan, per above article. Brenda Eaton former BC Hydro board member in charge of setting standards of conduct, Martha Piper on the board of TransAlta, James Hoggan...well, you know.

"To help pull off the ambitious project, however, Chan has put together a small team of staff and drawn together some high-powered people to serve on the board of the Dalai Lama Center. They include former University of B.C. president Martha Piper; Brenda Eaton, a top-level B.C. government civil servant; Gwyn Morgan, former president of giant Encana Corporation; Evan Alderson, former dean of arts at Simon Fraser University, Tom Rafael, a lawyer, and James Hoggan, a noted public relations specialist who also chairs the David Suzuki Foundation."

Messing Around...

"I am not sure I would characterize Morgan and his ilk as belonging to a union, if for no other reason than the notion of brotherly and sisterly solidarity is alien to them." Vivianlea Doubt.

Vivian, though you otherwise draw excellent conclusions about Chambers of Commerce, make no mistakes, these guys (and gals) understand the importance of "class solidarity" better than the working class has over recent years, since ohhhh, the 30s maybe. They are one dangerous "class conscious" crew that the working class would do well to emulate within their own class... in this one small regard only, mind. :-)

Ed said, "I've been trying to warn the leadership for years and got "Sure thing Ed ! This is great,now how about a donation ?" Not from me kiddies, until I see some logic and willingness for actions in the policies."

Bravo for you, Ed. Me too.

And I observe that numbers of others above here are drawing the same conclusion about status quo politics, and the "going nowhereness" of the current political system and its "loyal opposition" servants.

We need a big change here, along a broad social and political front. Short of that, this criminal gang crew has no really serious opposition. They're ALL just "messin' with your head".

I've read Morgan's pieces in

I've read Morgan's pieces in the G&M. Totally ideological. Lacking in any real analysis. Christy Clark clearly has lots of surface charisma, with no sign of policy substance. If she falls for Morgan's panaceas, too bad.....for residents of BC

Just as good as Parathion for the dinner table? (flies, y'kno')

"I'm kind of like a pre-Muslim, pre-Christian, pre-Jewish person. Remember when they all said there was a God and all worshipped the same one?"

See here, good Gwyneth - you appear to have swallowed a nasty piece of junk science there! At that time, there was not just one God anywhere, although the plethora of Gods and Goddesses may very well have all been interpretations of the same he and she. But at least you have to include the pair of them.

I'm just wondering if everything else you profess is as well founded. It would not do for our Chrissy to get bad advice for lack of insight, would it? Maybe take a crack at some of the books again...

@ Jerry Munro

Indeed, Jerry, I am not naive...their 'class consciousness' is all about the money. Simply watch what happens when one of their class loses all - materially speaking. He/she is no longer a member ...

I observe little intelligence, learning, sensitivity, or taste in relation to Mr. Morgan...somethings just cannot be bought;) The only loyalty is to money (usually bruited about as 'progress' or 'jobs' or some other vapid mantra) and the priceless is out of their ken. I am not suggesting they are not dangerous, just not particularly bright, and easily exposed - for their bad suits and haircuts if nothing else.

Morgan is good

As long as you subscribe to the partisan party politics in this country you will have to accept whatever is needed to make a party win. Morgan brings big money to the table for the liberals and so is good. I would much rather see people brought to the table for democracy even better. Figure it out.

Union of businesses

VivianLea, though I agree that some individual members of the Chambers of Commerce disagree with this policy or that, capitalism is always their over-riding mantra. A number of small business owners do not belong to the local chamber - they haven't the time nor the money; these folks also have have a very small voice. Many belong and they pay their dues and they buy in to the objectivist/materialist crap - the riteousness of greed. They release pro-business statements with (Chamber of Commerce member) local radio stations and newspapers reporting on their own statements - synergy, they call it.

If you go to the Chamber of Commerce link I provided above, you will find that the "Policy Wins" page contains a number of uber-capitalist and globalization goals. I heartily encourage you to visit their pages devoted to policy. You can see that Jerry (coyote) Munro was very correct in asserting that their behaviour as a group is dangerously powerful!

I do agree with you, VivianLea, about the suits being empty vessels with little to no moral/ethical/artistic compass guiding them. They make statements (giving lip service to) promoting environmentally friendly business practices while conspiring to increase world trade and the development of fossil fuels and other mineral resources. They are clearly into using everything up as fast as they can with the cheapest possible labour to meet short term materialistic economic goals - the hell with everyone else's future.

The sad thing about these folks that chase money is that at the end of the day, they never have enough; and while you and I may sleep dreaming about the tireless ant that we noticed at the base of a tree while pausing near the stream earlier in that day, the materialists may be fretfully twisting and turning about how they can make the correct donation to the appropriate government stooge to allow selling all the trees along that stream to a widget maker in China.

SIG

As an aside (but related) I pay my "dues" to WorkSafeBC, despite the full knowledge that, as a self-employed person, I have little to no practical coverage, should I become injured. The reason I pay my dues is because if I do not, WCB is much like the Gestapo and persecutes my client base otherwise. So I “render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s..." -- and I suspect quite a few smaller business people do the same with the Chamber. It's a cost of doing business in this banada republic.....

RickW

"...It's a cost of doing business in this banada republic....."

I agree with all of what you have said. I was in business (self-employed and as an employer), myself, for quite a number of years. I started out my career as a brown-shirt capitalist and steadily learned that their were many more rewarding non-material goals to pursue in life than the empty rewards found in more and more money and ever fewer deep relationships built on love and caring.

Sustainable BC

Ed et al, here is a connection to the BNC NDP's policy on the environment. It shows much more insight and hope for the future than any of the other parties have ever thought. They are giving us hope for the future with this vision.

http://www.buildingsustainablebc.ca/

You said, " Not from me kiddies, until I see some logic and willingness for actions in the policies."

I couldn't agree more, they MUST state the issues and actions they are going to take about the issues that confront us. Not like Christy Clake and the vacuous "Families First" slogan.

The Exceptions to The Class Rule...

"VivianLea, though I agree that some individual members of the Chambers of Commerce disagree with this policy or that, capitalism is always their over-riding mantra. A number of small business owners do not belong to the local chamber - they haven't the time nor the money; these folks also have have a very small voice." sharingisgood.

First, an overall excellent analysis of Chambers of Commerce, SharingIsGood. And your own story demonstrates a very important point addionally... there are always exceptions to every rule, including in business, especially "small business". Even amongst the Big Capitalists as well however, whilst one needs to be especially cautious and avoid gullibility, there are and will be those important "exceptions", when and as they come to see and appreciate more "democratic" economic alternatives to the status quo.

No doubt there are dominant "class realities" that operate in the relations between people... the pecking order. But it is complex humans we are talking about here, where there are always those valuable "exceptions" to even the "class rule".

You always make an extremely valuable contribution to any discussion brother. And it is a pleasure to read you.

Jerry/Coyote
http://coyotetimesca.blogspot.com/

the Chamber of Commerce...

SIG, Jerry, anyone who cares to read ...I joined the local Chamber of Commerce when first in business many years ago. After attending one 'mixer', I quickly repudiated my membership. The reason was, quite simply, the lack of imagination, creativity, or indeed, signs of intelligent life. Many small businesses don't belong to the Chamber not only because they don't have the time, but because they recognize that sustainable business isn't represented.

It seems to me that if we want to put forward an alternative to 'business as usual' - in other words, the status quo, whether in business, government, or any other endeavour, then we could shine a light on those individuals and organizations that are inspiring. Mr Morgan is not an inspiration as a role model, and more and more the Chambers of Commerce are irrelevant, in large part because they are so narrow, not to mention that whiff of vulgarity.

What is power? How do individuals and organizations get it? It's a huge subject, but I will say only this: power can only be conferred by other people, unless one is a dictator with a tame army. Please, let us stop ascribing power to these entities.

Rick W.

"The reason I pay my dues is because if I do not, WCB is much like the Gestapo and persecutes my client base otherwise. So I “render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s..."

Well said.

In Business Columbia, with our social system now in tatters, even caregivers have been 're-classified' as self-employed so that WorkSafe gets it pound of flesh. No doubt soon they will ask for an 'ounce of blood' as well.

All done under an ominous and barely-veiled threat.

Gestapo-like indeed.

Non Sequitur comic

Please go to this site for Mar. 9, 2011 for some insight on how BC Liberal politics works.

http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/

Power

"What is power? How do individuals and organizations get it? It's a huge subject, but I will say only this: power can only be conferred by other people, unless one is a dictator with a tame army. Please, let us stop ascribing power to these entities."

Power is, as far as I recall, according to our resident wise elder, Ed Deak, control of commodities and resources.

However, it is also a dream, an illusion. Show me an example of power that cannot be rendered meaningless in the blink of an eye by the action of natural forces, over which we have no control, despite juvenile efforts of the Chinese to take potshots at clouds and have them drop their load prematurely, etc.

So, as long as we cling to this false paradigm, directed by hubris, we will keep screwing up - as well as screwing ourselves - you-know-where. The only way forward lies in the paradigm shift it will take to have us understand that the globe does not belong to us, we belong to it; we do not own the land. Rather, it owns us. Hard to wrap your head around. This in my view is what the man meant when he sang "Imagine no possessions; I wonder if you can..."

Hard as it is to embrace, it also happens to be a better representation of the Truth. So, I guess the answer to your query is that those who believe themselves to have 'gotten it' are the biggest fluffheads of all, but neither can it truly be conferred by the rest of us. We should all be aware that these things only rest on contract, and we should all identify,also by contract, what the deal-breakers are. Oooops. We have such a contract. It's called the Constitution. Maybe we should hang it on our wall and refer to it more often.

Christy Clark is a dirtbag

and anyone would be a fool to think she isn't an extreme right wing one. Christy is farther to the right than Gordon Campbell. Allowing her to continue on as Premier would be a colossal mistake, at least as big a one as Campbell or Falcon. The Liberal Party should be taken to court for calling itself liberal when it's more like Harper without the religious fundie aspect.