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SFU Profs Slam Campbell's Energy Plan

Hobbling BC Hydro so private firms can profit big is bad public policy.

By Rafe Mair, 16 Nov 2009, TheTyee.ca

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Two Simon Fraser University professors, both experts in power issues, have written scathing critiques of the Campbell government's energy policy.

First, they affirm the argument I've been making for over a year -- that BC Hydro is being forced to buy private power at up to double its market value, sell it at a huge loss, and then, assuming that this idiotic government tubes Burrard Thermal as our backup power, it has buy back that power at high import prices!

Here's how Professor Douglas McArthur confirms that opinion on his blog PolicyCentre.ca:

"Private hydro produces most of its power in the spring and summer when B.C. already has a surplus of power from BC Hydro's already established plants. It doesn't need more power in the spring and summer when the runoff is high. But the government is making BC Hydro buy the power from these producers at inflated prices, even though it will have to turn around and sell it into export markets at much lower spring and summer market prices. Then, in the winter, BC Hydro will have to buy very expensive power from producers in the U.S. The private hydro producers will make a lot of money, Hydro will lose huge amounts of money on the whole complicated deal, and BC Hydro customers will make up the difference in higher rates... [The] government explanations just don't add up when subjected to scrutiny. If this was happening in India or Pakistan we would be raising no end of questions."

Dr. Marvin Shaffer, an acknowledged power expert also from SFU, confirms this analysis, concluding that the Campbell government "force[s] BC Hydro to look only to the private sector to develop new sources of energy, no matter how costly and low in value many of these sources are, or what cumulative environmental impacts they have."

What's good about this deal?

In a nutshell, then, Campbell forces BC Hydro to buy all the private power produced on a "take or pay basis" at up to twice its value at a time when its not needed, meaning Hydro must sell it at half price into the export market and buy it back at much, much higher prices if they do need power.

How do they get away with it?

The Campbell government plays upon the public's inaccurate understanding that the Burrard Thermal power plant is a huge despoiler of the environment -- in fact, it uses relatively benign natural gas for power and it's only used in rare times of emergency with a minuscule, short-term environmental impact. [By way of aside, hospitals and media outlets have this sort of backup, and what else would one expect? So do many citizens especially in Lions Bay where I live, which is subject to power losses more often than elsewhere. No, I don't take it personally! The environmental impact of these emergency backup arrangements is minute.]

What, then, will happen to BC Hydro?

At present it's on the hooks for $31 billion in future "take or pay" contracts which will, it's estimated, double if the Bute Inlet private development goes through. Every new license ups the ante. So, how does BC Hydro handle this?

BC Hydro is not permitted to bring new power on stream, with the exception of upgrading its own facilities and bringing on the Site C dam. The latter is hugely damaging to the environment, and unpopular. In fact this is a "man of straw" because Campbell and company are setting up a false dichotomy: it's either private power or Site C. This is nonsense.

How long can Hydro buy high, sell low and be deprived of its back-up in Burrard Thermal for those few days a year it requires its power?

Citizens will have to pay

Is it any wonder that the SFU professors are looking for a reason for all of this madness?

This so-called "energy policy" is indeed mad. No intelligent government would create such an idiotic scheme. In fact, in speaking to citizens around the province as I did last spring, even in the face of unassailable evidence people were reluctant to assume that any government could be so stupid. They doubted me -- even though I reminded them of Mair's Axiom I. Namely, it is: "You make a very serious mistake in assuming that those in charge know what the hell they're doing!"

What, then, are BC Hydro's options?

The first is obvious. It fails to meet its obligations and it is, for all intents and purposes, put into bankruptcy with its assets sold to pay off its capital debt. Now, if that seems like indigestible public policy, remember that with BC Rail, that's precisely what happened -- despite the most solemn of vows from Gordon Campbell not to do it.

The second is perhaps more likely. BC Hydro simply raises its domestic prices so that we the people -- with our businesses and industries -- finance the heavy losses resulting from its forced export of private power. In short, the dividends paid to shareholders of large offshore companies are being paid by us through our electricity bills, and through the cost of energy passed on to us by corporations. Think on that as your electricity bills come in!

This cannot be stated too often:

1. We do not have an energy crisis in B.C. All future needs can be met by employing conservation methods, upgrades to present Hydro facilities and Hydro putting generators on flood control dams -- and by taking back the Columbia River benefits in power rather than taking it in money.

2. Even if we were short of power, how can it be replaced by private power when that power is only created at a time when BC Hydro can't use it? Clearly, when the government says we must have energy self-sufficiency by a certain date -- energy which will come from private power -- they are terminologically inexactituding through their teeth!

Here it is in a nutshell. Kim-il Campbell and the pusillanimous lickspittles he surrounds himself with are shattering our environment by ruining our rivers and the animals and vegetation they sustain. They're making out with province shareholders rich with our public resources. They're either bankrupting BC Hydro, the most important and successful of our crown corporations, or forcing it to make the B.C. citizens pay with their own electricity bills for the immense profits of private companies.

And here's a question for the premier that he's utterly failed to deal with -- every year BC Hydro pays the province hundreds of millions of dollars by way of dividend, which goes to our schools and healthcare. Now this money is sucked out of B.C. and into the pockets of private shareholders like Warren Buffett.

Why are you doing this Premier Campbell?

There is absolutely no sense to this policy which devastates us environmentally and fiscally, so why are you doing all this to our wonderful province which has been entrusted to your care?  [Tyee]

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  • make_up_another...

    2 years ago

    Is There Nothing Privatisation Can't Do To Improve Life?

    Leverage the efficiencies of the private sector! Only business can provide tomorrow's solutions! Government is inefficient! Free markets encourage competition and brings lower prices! It never ends.

    I heard coverage of the UN Security Summit. Guess what? Yep! Only industrial farming and massive acceptance of GMO crops can produce the yields to feed the masses! Again, the private sector uses its amazing powers of ingenuity to bring prosperity to the masses!

    They're like broken records these people. You hear one of their shills being interviewed on the latest world problem, bracing yourself for the long awaited words of wisdom...I'm like, wait for it...wait for it...bam! Only private sector know-how is gonna carry the day lads! Let's just give them the keys to the printing presses and be done with it! Oh, wait...we've pretty well done that, haven't we?

  • Gary

    2 years ago

    A Terrible Realization

    I have just realized that we are not only going to pay for this "private power" but we as consumers are going to pay huge crippling amounts.
    When you look at your hydro bill there is a two tier price system. When you consume the first Tier the price jumps.Considerably.
    So when all this "best money managed" sytem of Gordos comes on line they will just increase the rates of the second tier by enough to bankrupt the lowest income earners. That system was never put there to help people reduce their footprint. It was put there to get a ridiculous amount of money from the public.

    Campbell and his gang have to be stopped. They are ruining this province for the sake of privatization.

  • Jeffrey J.

    2 years ago

    General Strike Feb. 12, 2010

    A general strike would bring thousands and thousands of people together to begin the process of regaining our democracy....

    The alternative is very dark indeed...

  • BC Mary

    2 years ago

    Will "make_up_another..." please stand up

    and attend the big rally of the New Democrats later this month?

    Then sit down and sign your nomination papers for whatever opening there is, at the top-end of this crazy Opposition, to lead them out of the maze and into the real world as you clearly see it.

    Or ... oh dear. Maybe I just went over the edge and this is the the great vision that's supposed to unravel before our mind's eye in the final desperate moments of our lives ...

    whatever, it was nice to hear your point of view in a province where Lies are Truth, and the Great Destroyer is being featured as GREEN king.

    Blessings upon Rafe, too, for never giving up on this Run-of-the-Rivers issue.

  • blackie

    2 years ago

    A few questions

    One of Rafe's assumptions is bang-on; don't believe that those in charge know what they are doing. Unfortunately, it applies to Rafe as well since he's just as loose with the facts as his tormenters are.

    A few questions:

    1. Hydro is already mandated to find 50% of its incremental power demand going forward from conservation -- a level unprecedented in Canada and thought to be damn-near impossible. Do you really think they can get 100% through conservation?

    2. Assuming the answer to the foregoing is most likely no (I realize that Rafe's entire argument crumbles if that's the case), and also assuming there is no private power development in the province -- where does Hydro get incremental power over the next decade or so, and what price do you think they'll pay for it? How does Hydro's own recent RoR project compare, price-wise, with the IPP crowd.

    3. Burrard Thermal is the biggest industrial polluter in the Lower Mainland. Do you really think it's a good idea to continue to rely on this ageing facility, given air pollution/greenhouse gas issues? And do you understand that what the Utilities Commission did (that Gordo has now undone) is put that facility back on Hydro's books as part of its firm supply mix going forward -- essentially guaranteeing that it would run at full bore, more often, as power demand increases. How does the great environmental crusader rationalize that one? I'm sure he'll find a way.

    4. If the argument holds that run of river power is available only in the spring freshet -- what would be happening right now (this week, that is) with all that water running down the mountains in the southern half of the province (e.g. at Toba)? Wouldn't there be some power available?

    5. If the concept of private power is ditched once and for all -- as Rafe and his supporters suggest -- who will pay for the early development costs of all Hydro's projects (think Site C) when they are put forward for public approval -- and they don't get it. Could it be the ratepayers? And what will the cost be of spot market imported power, as compared with fixed-contract private power?

    6. Do we really think in our energy-challenged world that it's a good thing to pay ridiculously low rates for electric power? Shouldn't we be paying about double what we're paying now? And wouldn't that be the most effective way of achieving that 50% conservation goal (Oops, sorry -- 100%).

    7. And finally, the two SFU profs quoted here (Shaeffer no surprise, MacArthur was a surprise); aren't there a few other experts out there who effectively argue the other side? Or are they just Campbell "lickspittles."

    Just thought I'd ask. I know, I'm just a "lickspittle" too.

  • Skywalker

    2 years ago

    Excellent Rafe.

    It is all about putting more taxpayers dollars into the pockets of a few carpetbaggers without any increased benefit to those taxpayers. Why? Well answering that question will probably wake up the editor.

  • alive

    2 years ago

    same old

    The idea of free enterprise is that one comes up with an idea and tries to sell it;
    Next is manufactuirng the item and hoping that it will sell at the price needed for a profit.
    It is every investors dream to have a guaranteed sale of everything they can produce, and every bankers dream of a safe investment too.
    What we have here is a supersafe investment, at the expense of every taxpayer!
    Since we already have a hydro authority, then why do we need to give such a great opportunity to outsiders?
    The only reason is that they have an inside line to Gordo's machinery, and likely have already contributed heavily towards his campaigns
    Wait for appointments to board of directors to Gordo's henchmen as they "retire"

  • seth

    2 years ago

    neocon disinformation

    Well Blackie you toss the softballs I'll wack em back at ya.

    1) Conservation with current low growth forecasts and Burrard thermal as a reserve, will easily meet demand. So sayeth the engineers at the BCUC. Your expert - Blair Lekstrom with his high school diploma disagrees.

    2) BCHydro could built river run for half the price the Pirates are charging us where environmentally and economically to the grid feasible. High value Baseload Site C power is about half the cost we are paying for the Pirates low value springtime peak trash.

    3)While Burrard thermal is only run occasionly as for peak loads, automobiles, cement plants, and gas heating are orders of magnitude higher CO2 emitters than Burrard thermal at full bore. Other than CO2, Burrard thermal emits a tiny fraction of the noxious pollution of the lower mainlaind autos. If the government was serious about CO2 pollution it would install natural gas pumps at lower mainland gas stations and sell CNG at like Utah does at Terasen home delivery cost of 30 cent a liter equivalent instead of the 75 cent a liter cost charged by the giant American corporation that now has the lucrative concession granted by Canwest/Gordo in exchange for – you fill it in. Less corrupt government in Utah I suppose. Of course, Canwest/Gordo could eliminate far more CO2 than Burrard thermal if it just funded transit.

    4) Blackie must be a Denier. There's weather and there's climate.

    5)We pay for new power with bonds as we always have. In fact the Pirate Power contracts are considered by the financial industry to be the equivalent of the soon to be $60 billion in super high interest bonds added to the provincial debt whether Canwest/Gordo's slick accounting procedures add it in or not. Five years from now with 35 years yet to go on the Pirate contracts, as the peak oil global warming fight engages there will be plenty of cheap clean and green baseload nuclear power to import at less than 20% of what BChydro is paying you Pirates. Note that with the existing contracts and the current 3000 (now 5000?) gigawatt BCHydro power call 80% of BCHydro's costs will be pirate power purchases effectively privatizing it, and rates will have to double to cover it. Be nice if we were actually getting some power we need or could sell for our billions but alas NOT!! Of course by then every business that uses electricity will have moved to Alberta and BCHydro will be bankrupt.

    6) A lot of power demand is not price sensitive which is why green taxes don't work.

    7) No doubt old Marc "Blackjack" Jaccard will be dragged out for a rebuttal which will be playing on Canwest Gordo for the next few week if in the unlikely event this story gets any play at all. His stand on the carbon tax which cost the NDP the election was thoroughly trashed by a real economist Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman.

  • Intention Pure

    2 years ago

    IPPS and Gordo

    Thank you once again Raif Mair!

    We have moved beyond run-of-the-mill protests and civil disobedience. Campbell needs to have his legs kicked out from underneath him. GENERAL STRIKE FEB 12, 2010! Absolutely, just watch very carefully. Gordo is a New World Order soldier. He and those who control him will do anything to stop this strike. Note anything that happens around this planned time for a strike. It WILL NOT be a coincidence. From an earthquake to releasing and spreading a virulent form of influenza. Do not underestimate the darkness of what the powers that be will do to mute and disable the population so the Candian and American Oligarchs can march ahead with their New World Order.

    DO NOT PAY YPUR TAXES. NOT ONE CENT. EVERYONE. THIS IS OUR RIGHT AND DUTY. IT IS OUR DUTY TO THE LAND, THE ANIMALS, AND THE WATER. THIS IS OUR CIVIL DUTY TO OUR CHILDREN. ALL OF US. NOT ONE CENT!

  • Cynic

    2 years ago

    Cynic's Axiom I: You make a

    Cynic's Axiom I: You make a very serious mistake if you assume that those in charge *don't* know what they're doing.

    They get away with murder because we think they're stupid or inept or something. Au contraire, the people who dream up scams like this one are very intelligent and they know exactly what they're doing. Suck it up. Face it. Take the red pill. Stop playing right into their hands.

  • seth

    2 years ago

    Nuke Global warming

    Contrary to Rafe's analysis BC and the rest of Canada is going to have to commit to a large scale conversion to nuclear power as the only possible answer to our less than ten years away civilization ending peak oil and climate crisis. The mass produced nukes are predicted to cost under $1 billion a gigawatt not the $45 billion Canwest/Gordo signed us up to pay for the same 1 gigawatt.

    Good news on that front is that Harpo is now in India trying to sell AECL ACR-1000 reactors, so it appears the Cons are actually going to support Canadian industry for once. Unlike Western nations, whose politicians seemed to have joined Al Gore's “renewable” religious sect, India has plans for 450 gigawatts of nukes and is dumping beaucoup bucks into nuclear research. Instead of giving them a ten to one minimum advantage in power cost with Al Gore's and David Suzuki's “renewables” we need to join their fight against peak oil, air pollution, and global warming.

    Canada with a $150 billion investment in AECL Candu ACR-1000 nukes, paid for by quickly weaning us off the $100 billion we spend annually on fossil fuels could end our fossil use.

    As electric car usage slowly builds, Canadian vehicles would be fueled by abundant supplies of cheap natural gas made available by replacing tar sand and power utility natural gas usage with nuclear steam.

    Note that Burrard Thermal could be replaced by a half of one of those new AECL reactors .

    With modern efficient nuclear waste fueled next generation IV reactors like the IFR, there is sufficient nuclear fission fuel to last hundreds of years.

    The conversion from fossil fuel to nuclear is great economics and with the current recession the industrial capacity is there. It eliminates our air pollution, creates a huge employment boosting domestic and export industry, and makes our economy far more competitive than the “renewable” powered Europe and lately the US. Even the deniers here would go for it. We can do this.

    The Americans could do their part with a $2.5 trillion nominal investment in nuclear power brought in over a few years and be paid for by weaning itself off the $1 trillion they spend annually on fossil fuels.

    Fortunately for Canada their political system is hopelessly grid locked and corrupted by Big Oil and their energy structure like their medical system is run almost 100% by grossly inefficient private companies. That structure along with their "renewable" biased Nuclear Rejection Commission and corrupt and litigious legal system, will likely quadruple their nuclear costs compared to our own.

    Instead eliminating our fossil fuel use, why not supply the Americans as well? Rim the border with an additional massive employment boosting 2500 mass produced reactors and make $trillions selling the US nuke power at premium rates, making publicly owned AECL, the world leader in nuclear power, and generating a huge high paying job producing Canadian industry.

  • rollandmiller

    2 years ago

    SFU Profs Slam Campbell's Energy Policy

    The Campbell energy policy is almost criminal.

    It clearly is not in BC's interest.

    Many of us have been oppsosed this policy since the policy came into existance yet the majority of people put them baack in power in the last election.

    Wake up electorate.

    Keep on supporting Campbell so he can sell out the rest of BC's assets.

    These assets belong to the people of BC!

  • Wilfride Laurier

    2 years ago

    General Strike Feb. 12, 2010

    That is really funny!

  • oldcynic

    2 years ago

    Campbell energy policy

    BC has vast capabilities for generating power. The US, especially now bankrupt California wants power from wherever they can get it. The WECC plan is to get it from BC, Alberta (oilsands) and Montana. (look it up by goggling WECC. The plan is layed out there).
    In principle, selling power to them at 12 cents/kwh, WHICH SUBSIDIZES OUR RATES AT 6.5 cents/kwh is a good thing. This has been what has kept our rates low, as well as relatively cheap hydro power. Campbell, if smart, would have sold the plan that way.
    However, the world is changing and renewable power is what is required (large dams not included in this!)*
    * The US considers hydro to be non-renewable due to its environmental impacts.

    BC has the best potential for wind power in Canada, yet has the least in the country (including PEI). Why?. Because BC Hydro engineers are dam builders and don't have the foresight or desire to look at other sources. Time to shake them up and bring in progressive thinkers who will move BC forward instead of wasting time and effort on Site C.
    Unfortunately Campbell is using this entrenched intellect to his advantage and to bring in his P3 buddies.
    Some good ideas, but very badly screwed up by the powers that be.

  • SharingIsGood

    2 years ago

    Extra food for thought

    Rafe is entirely correct when he says we can improve what we already have (which includes adding turbines to already dammed for flood control rivers) and reduce consumption to be able to meet our energy needs. Those who have taken the trouble to educate themselves about this topic and have respect for their environment don't need nor want ROR hydro. If we pay attention, this November 4, 2009 report from the US Energy Secretary Steven Chu tells us what we need to do before we ever begin using the stupid river-killing, commercial, ROR turbines that Campbell has signed us up for. Here is an exerpt:

    "Hydropower Upgrades to Yield Added Generation at Average Costs Less Than 4 cents per kWh - Without New Dams

    $30.6 million Recovery Act investment by the Department of Energy highlights the additional potential of hydro power

    WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu today announced up to $30.6 million in Recovery Act funding for the selection of seven hydropower projects that modernize hydropower infrastructure by increasing efficiency and reducing environmental impacts at existing facilities. The expanded hydro generation projects have estimated incremental costs of less than 4 cents per kWh on average.

    The selections announced today will deploy innovative technologies such as high-efficiency, fish-friendly turbines, improved water intakes, and advanced control systems in order to increase power generation and improve environmental stewardship. Under Secretary Kristina Johnson made the announcement while visiting Voith Hydro Inc.’s manufacturing plant in York, Pennsylvania.

    “One of the best opportunities we have to increase our supply of clean energy is by bringing our hydropower systems into the 21st Century,” said Secretary Chu. “With this investment, we can create jobs, help our environment and give more renewable power to our economy without building a single new dam.”

    http://www.energy.gov/news2009/8260.htm

  • Intention Pure

    2 years ago

    Not looking at other BC sources except hydroelectric generation

    For another reason why this happening, check out the Western Governor's Association, which Gordo is a member of, and the Western Renewable Energy Zone (WREZ) plans available online. It pegs BC for hydroelectric and downgrades and/or does not assess BC for any other "renewable" energy resources. This the SPP in full force.

  • SharingIsGood

    2 years ago

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Just a setup

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • samuidave (not verified)

    2 years ago

    "pusillanimous lickspittles"

    Indeed!

    It should be common knowledge at this late juncture that Gordon Campbell is the worst BC Premier in the last 50 years.

    I suggest Gordon Campbell's acts arguably enter the realm of criminal.

    "Every one who, being a trustee of anything for the use or benefit, whether in whole or in part, of another person, or for a public or charitable purpose, converts, with intent to defraud and in contravention of his trust, that thing or any part of it to a use that is not authorized by the trust is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years."

    R.S., c. C-34, s. 296.

    IF Gordon Campbell give his assurance immediately prior to the election not to sell off BC Rail in order to help garner his position as Premier of BC; and

    IF The Premier of BC, Gordon Campbell, is a trustee of the public resources; and

    IF As trustee Premier, Gordon Campbell then sold off BC rail in contravention of his assurance to the people of BC; and

    KNOWING 'Fraud' is defined by case law as:

    "If a man by deceit or falsehood deprives another of something that is his right to have, then it is fraud"

    THEN does it not stand to reason that the sale of BC Rail by Gordon Campbell, Premier and trustee, through deception and falsehood, deprived the people of their right to have BC Rail remain a public entity?

    Nice update Rafe!

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Anatomy of a scandal

    I disagree with the premise that they don't know what they are doing.

    This is how corrupt governments serve their financial backers at the expense of the public good in a so called "free and democratic" setting, you know when you have to maintain the appearance of legality unlike in the third world. It's much like a sneaky child playing stupid to conceal that they have been purposely and slowly slipping your wallet out of your back pocket.

    First you create an idiotic unsustainable economic business model designed to fail and force a crown corporation to operate under this model at ever increasing loss and inefficiency and pass the costs of this to the public. Thereby manufacturing decent and lining the pockets of your financial backers, (private industry) At the same time. A win win for your backers and you.

    Then when the public is outraged enough at having to pay ridiculous rates for sub par service you blame it on the inherent in efficiencies of a public system rather than a private one with competition, (which by the way rarely ever materializes after the deed is done.)

    Lastly you pretend to be sound fiscal managers as you privatize the crown corporation with a sweetheart deal for your private owners.

    For example witness the long game for our most cherished institution, public healthcare..... same deal only it has to be done over a long period of time because the public values our public system and would not stand for it if it was killed over night. You have to slowly boil frog until there is no turning back.After running the government asset in question into the ground over years or decades, in the end the public, if it even notices will be clamouring to have it privatized.

    In the end the publics interest has been taken to the cleaners and has funded at maximum cost the seeds of it's own undoing. Somebody somewhere is laughing......

    When is the public going to sit up on it's hind legs and smell the coffee? In any "democracy" there are competing interests vying for power and advantage. The side that organizes and pays attention and struggles most effectively wins every time.

    The public should not sleepwalk through the political process if it expects its rights to be served and that is why T.V. is designed to put us to sleep. It is a corporate tool and weapon to make money while manufacturing the public agenda at the same time.... ingenious really.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    My apologies

    Something is amiss with this machine... sorry for the multiple posts sigh.....

  • Jeffrey J.

    2 years ago

    I think the Tyee has been hacked

    and it wouldn't surprise me. The Tyee has hit a nerve...

  • Jeffrey J.

    2 years ago

    And no, it's not your machine Betalgeuse

    And no, it's not your machine Betalgeuse.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • robmar

    2 years ago

    electricity/gov't

    Rafe Mair is to be complimented for his ongoing throughly concise review of the electrical energy usage and by whom, within the Province of BC. WB Bennett gave to the residents of British Columbia good and inexpensive energy to last through many lifetimes in 1975, I believe, when the Bennett dam was built. How sad it is to learn of the nature of this Liberal government and how the electrical energy usage is used like a monoply game and, for what purpose? Many more Rafe Mairs and Bill Tielmans are needed.

  • Bailey

    2 years ago

    The first law of unintended consequences

    When the primary consequence of a scheme is being sold as an untended consequence, it probably isn't.

    This is a very nice article, Mr. Mair. Thank you.

    I wish, however you would do a piece on the ties between Mr. Campbell and his group and the Enron fraud of recent lamented memory.

    When Mr Campbell first approached Arthur Andersen Accounting, the unindicted comptroller of the infamous Enron Corporation, who were soon to be renamed Accenture, about taking over BC Hydro, the letter he wrote to memo the meeting was leaked and reprinted in the HEU website. It was a remarkable document.

    Soon after, the Liberal government began what amounted to warfare against that Union, and summarily fired thousands of women members, selling their jobs to a very questionable French hotel agency, Sodhexo. This move was reported to cost the province slightly more than the original arrangement, and created huge problems with the cleanliness of BC hospitals.

    It's a matter for Occam's razor, when a political party creates:

    a) havoc with an industry in their control, and

    b) huge profits for a contributor, and

    c) great harm to a political opponent,

    all at the same time. The question becomes: what consequence was intended?

    Remember, the Enron fraud came to light when the State of California was devastated by the deliberate manipulation of its hydro system, putting it in the hands of private, politically connected crooks. And one of the first things California did after Enron fell was to sue BC Hydro for recovery of funds. I really wish some journalist could publically answer some questions:

    What are the ties between Mr. Campbells Liberals and that fraud?

    How does the history of Enron compare to what is known of the Liberal energy policy?

    Which of the consequences of Enron's policies were unintended?

    What exactly are the intended consequences of the Liberal energy policy?

  • oldcynic

    2 years ago

    Mica and Revelstoke dams

    There are already at least two additional generators that are to be added to Revelstoke dam. The penstocks are already there and the project is in the planning stages at BCH. Not sure about Mica, although I believe there is more to do there as well.

  • WaterTalker

    2 years ago

    Conservation works

    blackie, you're right. With a negative attitude conservation is damn near impossible. Yet low energy homes and businesses are popping up everywhere despite the nay-sayers.

    I've reduced my home's electricity consumption dramatically with lots of insulation, solar technology, and other very simple and very effective methods. Not everyone can afford it but the return on investment is fantastic. Comfort, better resale value, peace of mind, low monthly bills, and lower impact on the environment.

    I highly recommend it. It is a great way to invest in your community and province. Or maybe I should have bought a really fast car instead...? Want to have more of a say in BC's direction? You can vote with a ballot every few years, but you can vote with your lifestyle choices everyday.

    Thanks Rafe, for your tireless work to protect BC's rivers.

  • crankypants

    2 years ago

    Rafe, You're The Man

    Once again you have exposed the folly being forced upon the citizens of BC.

    The BIG QUESTION is how do we get ourselves into these situations. From my perspective, it is very simple. It is our political system. We have been brainwashed by the politicos, the mainstream media and political junkies that we must elect majority governments. Thus in more elections than not we get ourselves an elected dictator and his or her band of robots who become quickly programmed to follow orders, no questions asked. Add to the mix the unelected baggage that comes with the dictator(the party elite who probably have more input with said dictator than the elected robots), and you have a recipe for disaster. What's worse is that this scenario is not party specific as all we do is trade one dictator for another.

    The solution is to eliminate the political party which would eliminate the robot mentality and of course eradicate the unelected elite. The sooner change comes the better or else we soon will not have a province to worry about.

  • CosmicCan

    2 years ago

    A Sunnier Side to IPPs

    Feed-in tariffs, such as Ontario's new FIT and microFITs for Solar PV are a much better way to add energy into the grid. FITs are open to everyone, not just IPPs therefore residents, farmers, small businesses.

    Germany has been using Solar PV FITs since 2000 and it has created the leading solar PV economy in 9 years. Germans invest in their solar rooftops as retirement plans, or additional income for their farms. It is wealth building. In 2009 more than 1.5GW of PV will be installed in Germany -- in a climate that has less sun than BC.

    FITs also have other important benefits:
    They are funded by ratepayers, not taxpayers.
    They feed-in energy directly in the load centres, not hundreds of miles away over mountain ranges and valleys.

    The programs are easily instituted, and controlled, and adjusted to market conditions (but experience shows that stable policy and execution will have the most positive economic impact. Avoid the Spanish experience!)

    They generate electricity in periods when RoR does not - when it is sunny and hot or sunny and frozen solid. PV electricity also coincides with higher air conditioning loads in the summer. We don't have air conditioning loads in BC? Oh right. We sell that electricity to strained grids in California during those times.

    In any case, solar FITs increase investment in real economic assets that deliver energy right into the load centers. They generate activity in sustainable industries -- that which will last as long as the sun. Everyone can participate, not just a select few IPPs whose interests go beyond the boundaries of our Province.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    OldCynic and Seth

    OldCynic – don’t be so quick to label ANY BC-produced hydro power as “green”, that is defined by the laws of the importing jurisdiction. Large hydro dam-sourced power does not, I believe, qualify for California.

    Seth - you are far to optimistic about CANDU. I worked in the industry many years ago and see the prospects for CANDU as dim. I don’t know if the recent sales to China have improved the record, but all the reactors built in Canada were substantially over budget (300 %to 500%) with long project delays.

    Years ago, when I was into photography, I was in a camera store and asked about a particular brand of electronic flash. The fellow, who I knew my through my father, replied, “If you want to buy a boat, do you really want to buy a leaky boat?” If you know the history of CANDU, why would you buy one?

    And, please, don’t fall into that Canadian habit of mythologizing CANDU as one of our stunning technological achievements. Canadian taxpayers have pumped over $80 Billion into the CANDU ‘project’ and to my mind we have little to show for it.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    MIca and Revelstoke

    I did a tour at the Revelstoke Dam a few years back and asked about the #5 turbine they were adding. According to my tour guide, it is peak power only. They do not have enough water behind the dam for full-time operation. Incidentally, Revelstoke provides 22% of BC's electricity from four turbines.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    "CONservatives"

    Conservative regimes have NEVER served the public good. That is antithetical to their philosophy. If it isn't clear now that they don't have any interest to serve the public then I don't know what it will take to make some people see. It is in their rhetoric obvious in their actions and we all pay the steep price for their evil machinations.

    The coincidence that armies of so called homeless people and the working poor Neo Surfs, victims of so called free market global capitalism all of a sudden showed up on the streets of Britain and North America, the most affluent places on earth, at the same time as the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney conservative revolution or more accurately devolution of the early eighties. Is not lost on me.
    The effects of which we are still increasingly paying for as they fully come to bear.

    Everywhere so called free enterprise capitalism is dominant ever growing disenfranchised segments of the population suffer under their unbridled greed and corruption.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    "CONservatives"

    Conservative regimes have NEVER served the public good. That is antithetical to their philosophy. If it isn't clear now that they don't have any interest to serve the public then I don't know what it will take to make some people see. It is in their rhetoric obvious in their actions and we all pay the steep price for their evil machinations.

    The coincidence that armies of so called homeless people and the working poor Neo Surfs, victims of so called free market global capitalism all of a sudden showed up on the streets of Britain and North America, the most affluent places on earth, at the same time as the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney conservative revolution or more accurately devolution of the early eighties. Is not lost on me.
    The effects of which we are still increasingly paying for as they fully come to bear.

    Everywhere so called free enterprise capitalism is dominant ever growing disenfranchised segments of the population suffer under their unbridled greed and corruption.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    "CONservatives"

    Conservative regimes have NEVER served the public good. That is antithetical to their philosophy. If it isn't clear now that they don't have any interest to serve the public then I don't know what it will take to make some people see. It is in their rhetoric obvious in their actions and we all pay the steep price for their evil machinations.

    The coincidence that armies of so called homeless people and the working poor Neo Surfs, victims of so called free market global capitalism all of a sudden showed up on the streets of Britain and North America, the most affluent places on earth, at the same time as the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney conservative revolution or more accurately devolution of the early eighties. Is not lost on me.
    The effects of which we are still increasingly paying for as they fully come to bear.

    Everywhere so called free enterprise capitalism is dominant ever growing disenfranchised segments of the population suffer under their unbridled greed and corruption.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    "CONservatives"

    Conservative regimes have NEVER served the public good. That is antithetical to their philosophy. If it isn't clear now that they don't have any interest to serve the public then I don't know what it will take to make some people see. It is in their rhetoric obvious in their actions and we all pay the steep price for their evil machinations.

    The coincidence that armies of so called homeless people and the working poor Neo Surfs, victims of so called free market global capitalism all of a sudden showed up on the streets of Britain and North America, the most affluent places on earth, at the same time as the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney conservative revolution or more accurately devolution of the early eighties. Is not lost on me.
    The effects of which we are still increasingly paying for as they fully come to bear.

    Everywhere so called free enterprise capitalism is dominant ever growing disenfranchised segments of the population suffer under their unbridled greed and corruption.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    "CONservatives"

    Conservative regimes have NEVER served the public good. That is antithetical to their philosophy. If it isn't clear now that they don't have any interest to serve the public then I don't know what it will take to make some people see. It is in their rhetoric obvious in their actions and we all pay the steep price for their evil machinations.

    The coincidence that armies of so called homeless people and the working poor Neo Surfs, victims of so called free market global capitalism all of a sudden showed up on the streets of Britain and North America, the most affluent places on earth, at the same time as the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney conservative revolution or more accurately devolution of the early eighties. Is not lost on me.
    The effects of which we are still increasingly paying for as they fully come to bear.

    Everywhere so called free enterprise capitalism is dominant ever growing disenfranchised segments of the population suffer under their unbridled greed and corruption.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    "CONservatives"

    Conservative regimes have NEVER served the public good. That is antithetical to their philosophy. If it isn't clear now that they don't have any interest to serve the public then I don't know what it will take to make some people see. It is in their rhetoric obvious in their actions and we all pay the steep price for their evil machinations.

    The coincidence that armies of so called homeless people and the working poor Neo Surfs, victims of so called free market global capitalism all of a sudden showed up on the streets of Britain and North America, the most affluent places on earth, at the same time as the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney conservative revolution or more accurately devolution of the early eighties. Is not lost on me.
    The effects of which we are still increasingly paying for as they fully come to bear.

    Everywhere so called free enterprise capitalism is dominant ever growing disenfranchised segments of the population suffer under their unbridled greed and corruption.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    "CONservatives"

    Conservative regimes have NEVER served the public good. That is antithetical to their philosophy. If it isn't clear now that they don't have any interest to serve the public then I don't know what it will take to make some people see. It is in their rhetoric obvious in their actions and we all pay the steep price for their evil machinations.

    The coincidence that armies of so called homeless people and the working poor Neo Surfs, victims of so called free market global capitalism all of a sudden showed up on the streets of Britain and North America, the most affluent places on earth, at the same time as the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney conservative revolution or more accurately devolution of the early eighties. Is not lost on me.
    The effects of which we are still increasingly paying for as they fully come to bear.

    Everywhere so called free enterprise capitalism is dominant ever growing disenfranchised segments of the population suffer under their unbridled greed and corruption.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    "CONservatives"

    Conservative regimes have NEVER served the public good. That is antithetical to their philosophy. If it isn't clear now that they don't have any interest to serve the public then I don't know what it will take to make some people see. It is in their rhetoric obvious in their actions and we all pay the steep price for their evil machinations.

    The coincidence that armies of so called homeless people and the working poor Neo Surfs, victims of so called free market global capitalism all of a sudden showed up on the streets of Britain and North America, the most affluent places on earth, at the same time as the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney conservative revolution or more accurately devolution of the early eighties. Is not lost on me.
    The effects of which we are still increasingly paying for as they fully come to bear.

    Everywhere so called free enterprise capitalism is dominant ever growing disenfranchised segments of the population suffer under their unbridled greed and corruption.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    Betelgeuse

    In my view, you're on the right track. The carbon tax and carbon neutrality goals are hidden budget cuts for healthcare and public education. A recent news story quantified the impact of the HST on education. Surprise, surprise, surprise, another hidden budget cut.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    Betelgeuse

    In my view, you're on the right track. The carbon tax and carbon neutrality goals are hidden budget cuts for healthcare and public education. A recent news story quantified the impact of the HST on education. Surprise, surprise, surprise, another hidden budget cut.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    Betelgeuse

    In my view, you're on the right track. The carbon tax and carbon neutrality goals are hidden budget cuts for healthcare and public education. A recent news story quantified the impact of the HST on education. Surprise, surprise, surprise, another hidden budget cut.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    Betelgeuse

    In my view, you're on the right track. The carbon tax and carbon neutrality goals are hidden budget cuts for healthcare and public education. A recent news story quantified the impact of the HST on education. Surprise, surprise, surprise, another hidden budget cut.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    Betelgeuse

    In my view, you're on the right track. The carbon tax and carbon neutrality goals are hidden budget cuts for healthcare and public education. A recent news story quantified the impact of the HST on education. Surprise, surprise, surprise, another hidden budget cut.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    Betelgeuse

    In my view, you're on the right track. The carbon tax and carbon neutrality goals are hidden budget cuts for healthcare and public education. A recent news story quantified the impact of the HST on education. Surprise, surprise, surprise, another hidden budget cut.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    Betelgeuse

    In my view, you're on the right track. The carbon tax and carbon neutrality goals are hidden budget cuts for healthcare and public education. A recent news story quantified the impact of the HST on education. Surprise, surprise, surprise, another hidden budget cut.

  • dave49

    2 years ago

    Betelgeuse

    In my view, you're on the right track. The carbon tax and carbon neutrality goals are hidden budget cuts for healthcare and public education. A recent news story quantified the impact of the HST on education. Surprise, surprise, surprise, another hidden budget cut.

  • North of Hope

    2 years ago

    star cluste

    I always thought Betelgeuse was a red giant, but here it seems to be a star cluster.

  • North of Hope

    2 years ago

    star cluste

    I always thought Betelgeuse was a red giant, but here it seems to be a star cluster.

  • North of Hope

    2 years ago

    star cluste

    I always thought Betelgeuse was a red giant, but here it seems to be a star cluster.

  • Maddy

    2 years ago

    Wolf in sheeps clothing

    This clean energy is all to hook up to a north american grid for industry/corp to get into areas that do not have electricity, so corporations can mine/oil/gas etc.plus sell power to the states. There is new transmission lines being installed up and down north america for these purposes. Its the story: Wolf in sheeps clothing.

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Some video to illustrate my point

    Ever hear of John Perkins?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9QEhxypDZE

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Some video to illustrate my point

    Ever hear of John Perkins?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9QEhxypDZE

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Some video to illustrate my point

    Ever hear of John Perkins?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9QEhxypDZE

  • Betelgeuse

    2 years ago

    Some video to illustrate my point

    Ever hear of John Perkins?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9QEhxypDZE

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