Corporate Subsidies in China

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-27/energy-subsidies-stymie-wind-solar-innovation-nathan-myhrvold.html

Shows the brotherhood between

Shows the brotherhood between communist and capitalist criminal gangs

Ed Deak.

Kyoto needs to be gone or at least reworked!

Kyoto is best at moving money invisibly, without taxation across borders and really does nothing at all for climate change.

Some examples:
If you cut down a forest for lumber you get a carbon debit under Kyoto. If you in turn plant a new forest, you get no credit;the debt stands to be paid.

Now, to pay this debt you will have to part with you hard earned cash and buy a "carbon credit" from one of the people in Africa. So, if Canada is not supporting Ky0to, we are not shipping our money to Africa.

Yet, the new forest is in place and growing.

If a parent company if the US upgrades its services like changing from coal generation to nuclear generation, a huge carbon credit would be given.

Now if the Canadian grounded US company is carrying a debit in the tar sands, the tar sands company can buy the carbon credit off the US primary company.

In this case money has just slipped across the border south and no taxes in the offering. Quite the contrary, taxes will be reduced in Canada as the company grounded here claims an expense for shipping cash south.

I think the Greenpeace Executive is completely off track with his article which, is not unusual when they are looking for cash donations.

"Victims" ??

Everyone wants to get on "The Victim Train" in hopes of collecting BIG $$s for doing nothing.
A whole generation of "entitled", worldwide.
Nice try, though. Carry on down the road with your guilt-tripping tin cup.

A lot of people would be very

A lot of people would be very happy to do something useful, including millions here in Canada, but are prevented by "free trade", "the free movement of capital" and "globalization" stealing their lands, businesses and professions to please the stockmarkets, the Bilderbergers, the Trilaterals, the "conservatives" and their Chinese communist cadre brothers.

Ed Deak.

Blame, Racism, Victims??

Interesting responses to an Article that simply points out the obvious.

Those living in warm climates will be first peoples of our planet to be negatively affected by global warming.

It's easy to ignore an issue, whether you believe in it or not, when its' faceless people dying on a continent you know nothing about.

Whether Canada deserves to be singled out over all other "Developed" nations could be debated, but in my opinion, all of us have failed miserably.

Kootenay has it right. Why

Kootenay has it right.

Why don't we simply recognise the obvious (that climate change is real, that major reductions in GHG emissions are needed to avoid cascading catastrophes, that most of the problem today originates from the wealthy minority including Canadians, and that avoiding risk of massive adverse events will require US (meaning the wealthy minority) to cut GHG emissions massively and quickly).

What we can expect the high population-high growth majority to contribute will depend significantly on the moral leadership which we can provide. Assuming that the best outcome will come from threats and counterthreats, or refusing to discuss until the others have agreed to our propositions, is unlikely to work quickly -- and will do nothing to create good will.

Unfortunately, we, as Canadians, probably stand to suffer less than the human majority whose margin of safety (in terms of water, land above sea level, etc) is much less.

If there was ever a situation in which the western (Christian?) values of "healing thyself" and "doing unto others...." casting the mote out of your own eye first, etc applied, it must be this one.

Global warming is one thing,

Global warming is one thing, but the incredible growth of cancers, diabetes etc. especially in children, that didn't exist before are causing terrible damage to humanity.

And the vast majority of it caused by the deregulated money creation powers of the banks licencing and demanding increased resource waste and enslavement to maintain that imaginary money's imaginary values.

While we're also in major inflation and growing poverty for the same reason.

If Greece,Italy, Ireland, Portugal, etc. incl. Canadian personal debt at $1.4 trillion, hadn't had the chance to borrow that non existing, imaginary money, the whole world would be better off, with less damage to humanity and the environment caused by these irresponsible and criminal economic theories.

Ed Deak.

The Other Bottom Line

Another suggestion would be to elect governments that govern for people rather than banks and corporations.

We're not broke, we have the same physical resources/assets we've always had, the only thing that has changed is the distribution of wealth.

Here's an intersting You Tube link that demonstrates just how out of control our politicians are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsHlNR-nVR0&feature=player_embedded

DO YOU HAVE SOLUTIONS?

It is time to stop the blame train, complain train and teh rant train. Everyone is ranting here but not many offered real solutions!

What do YOU do to save the planet? Which corporations' product have you boycotted - meaning you do not buy that product anymore. Where does your food come from? Do you buy from locals or you just put whatever you like into your basket without ever thinking how it got to the store on the first place?

It is nice to read the comments but I am starting get fedup with all the rantings and blamings. You too Ed Deak! I always liked your comments but I'm getting tired of it - offer solutions! We aren't going to change the university in a day - that's not where change will happen first.

What is the SOLUTION? Start offering solutions! We all know the problems. But so far not many people has made REAL changes in their lives here as I can tell.

The economy needs to change if we want a future for our children. And part of that change comes from CONSUMERS - those of us who buy and buy and buy and the stuff we buy is sitting in the basement for 6 months and then goes to the garbage.

What would change if suddenly you would have to be responsible for your own garbage? Or if you would have to pay GREEN TAX? Every item that is potentially dangerous to throw to the garbage would be slammed with a Green tax - would you buy it?

Money speaks. As Paul Hawken (www.paulhawken.com) said in his book 'Ecology of Commerce - IT IS STILL TOO CHEAP TO DO HARM! Unless we start charging MORE tax for harmful products people will keep on buying them and companies will keep on destroying our environment.

Unfortunately there are too many people out there who do not want to change. Well, without that we are going to be extint in 30-40 years.

So start coming up with solutions and stop ranting and complaining!

Hard to change OhCanada

when the structural program is in place to perpetuate the status quo.

Here is something for us all to chew on, an article by Naomi Klein in the Nation last month: Capitalism vs. Climate.

http://www.thenation.com/article/164497/capitalism-vs-climate

In short, our collective minds have been rotted so severely, filled with such rhetoric, dis-information and filth about our noble culture, we can't see the biggest glaring problems in our world: capitalism, warfare, the population explosion, and our ecological collapse.

Try to get 1 person in 4 to agree on all four being intertwined, and I'd be surprised. Just like we will not stop warfare and military nuclear advancements, we are not going to stop our ecological destruction. Whether enough survive to carry on is anyone's guess.

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To the poster above talking white and black people, and blaming one another for the problems. The simple fact that you identify humanity in this way is evidence enough to me that you need to step back a long ways before you can ever grasp the severity of what is going wrong in our world.

Hard to change OhCanada

when the structural program is in place to perpetuate the status quo.

Here is something for us all to chew on, an article by Naomi Klein in the Nation last month: Capitalism vs. Climate.

http://www.thenation.com/article/164497/capitalism-vs-climate

In short, our collective minds have been rotted so severely, filled with such rhetoric, dis-information and filth about our noble culture, we can't see the biggest glaring problems in our world: capitalism, warfare, the population explosion, and our ecological collapse.

Try to get 1 person in 4 to agree on all four being intertwined, and I'd be surprised. Just like we will not stop warfare and military nuclear advancements, we are not going to stop our ecological destruction. Whether enough survive to carry on is anyone's guess.

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To the poster above talking white and black people, and blaming one another for the problems. The simple fact that you identify humanity in this way is evidence enough to me that you need to step back a long ways before you can ever grasp the severity of what is going wrong in our world.