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Oppal Confused on Voter ID Law?

AG calls tightened requirements a 'good move' but cites report that says opposite.

By Andrew MacLeod, 13 May 2008, TheTyee.ca

Wally Oppal

BC Attorney General Wally Oppal.

Attorney General Wally Oppal said tightening voter identification requirements is a "good move" that will prevent abuses of the province's electoral system.

He also said the changes are based on recommendations made in a 2006 report by chief electoral officer Harry Neufeld. However, that report does not recommend strengthening the requirements -- in fact it suggests easing them in some situations.

"I think it's a good move," said Oppal, who pointed out the proposed legislation is in line with federal laws. "There has to be some responsibility, as well as a right, conferred on people in a democracy when you want to vote. Voting is a right of course, but it also carries with it a responsibility."

The proposed rules included in Bill 42, the Election Amendment Act, require voters to have identification issued either by the province or the federal government that includes their name, photograph and address. Unlike the federal rules, the provincial rules also accept proof of status under the Indian Act.

Without identification, a person can vote if somebody else who is on the voters list will vouch for them. Nobody will be allowed to vouch for more than one person.

New rules challenged

The proposed changes have met criticism from anti-poverty advocates, the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, the B.C. Public Interest Advocacy Centre and the NDP, who say it will make voting more difficult for people who are homeless or who have recently moved.

PIAC is already challenging the federal rules, and will fight the province's changes as well. "We expect the provincial legislation, if they are foolish enough to proceed with it, to fall along with the federal law," the organization's executive director, Jim Quail, told The Tyee.

Oppal said the proposed rules won't be a barrier to people who want to vote.

There are three ways to register, he said. "I think people should be able to fit into one of the three categories," he said. "I recognize it may be more difficult for people who are homeless. All you really need is one person from the riding to attest to the fact this person is eligible to vote in the riding. I don't think that's really asking too much. We have to guard against potential voter registration abuse."

Asked if there had been any such abuses, he said, "We have no documented evidence of abuses, but it's always good to have precautionary steps like that. If abuses do take place, then we're going to be criticized for not having the framework there to prevent abuses."

Report spurred changes

The change was proposed after the independent officer who oversees provincial elections made suggestions for improving how we vote, Oppal said. "What's happened now is the chief electoral officer came to us in 2006 and said the Elections Act has to be reformed and that amendments should take place," he said. That report included 60 recommendations, he said.

"We thought it was an appropriate time to re-examine the Elections Act, so that's another amendment we put in there."

Except the changes Oppal is making do not appear to have been recommended by the chief electoral officer.

Harry Neufeld submitted his Chief Electoral Officer: Recommendations for Legislative Change report to the speaker in March 2006. Such reports are written after each general election, the report says. The government has failed to act on most of the suggestions made since 1996, it says. "Unfortunately, very few of the recommendations have been acted upon."

Law makes it 'harder to vote': NDP MLA

The 30-page report suggests easing the identification requirements. As things are, a potential voter has to provide two documents that between them include proof of his or her name, address and signature. If the individual does not have proof of an address, the person still needs two documents and "may make a solemn declaration as to their place of residence."

Neufeld found, "This requirement is a barrier to registration for voters who are in medical facilities or correctional facilities, where the individuals do not have identity documents in their possession."

He suggested giving election officials discretion to only require one document with a potential voter's name and a solemn declaration of their address when they are voting in a medical or correctional facility.

The NDP's homelessness and mental health critic, Vancouver-Kensington MLA David Chudnovsky, said it is unbelievable and ironic the Liberal government would make it harder for homeless people to vote at a time when there are more of them than at any time since the Great Depression.

"Our problem in B.C. is not that too many people vote, it's that too few people vote," he said. "The purpose should be to make it easier for people to vote, not make it harder. This legislation does make it harder."

Oppal introduced the bill on April 30. It is among several bills that will be passed at 5 p.m. on May 29, even if it has not yet gone through all the normal stages of debate.

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  • morechatter

    4 years ago

    Harder to Live

    Thats what it will make it, Harder for low income residents who are already in survival mode. Many of them already don't believe the system works but its amazing when the going gets real tough how they still come out and vote. This bill will put a real damper on that as they concern themselves with food,shelter, hunger, illness and escalating costs much less money for ID. And now what? Its a real catch 22 this gov especially for women and kids trying to stay alive who are forced to stay in deadly relationships with fear of having kids taken away because 65% of kids taken from their homes are from welfare moms with out money for food, shelter or dignity. Oppal's gov solution to helping women leaving violent relationships. Shut-up and live with it or starve and lose your kids is what it amounts to.

  • Stump

    4 years ago

    Thank God

    We're tackling that terrible, terrible problem with voter fraud that plagues our province. Oh wait. It's not really a problem at all. It's the politicians who lie at election time.

  • sicntired

    4 years ago

    Attorney General

    EDITED FOR LEGAL CONCERNS -- TYEE MODERATOR You don't strengthen democracy by disenfranchising the poorest among us.When the feds did it it was just a typical assault by a plutocracy on the poor.I guess that applies here now as well.The government has shown a complete disregard for the poor and the homeless and it's no surprise that they would like to take away their right to vote.When you consider yourself above a segment of society,why would you want to give them a voice?Gordon Campbell has wrapped himself in a big green flag and hopes no-one will notice his assaults on the lesser among us.His government has sold off much of what should have been our children's legacy.They've embraced the gap between rich and poor and are now attempting to remove the political voice of those on the wrong side of that gap.

  • ripponfalls

    4 years ago

    I've already commented on this

    at the following:

    http://thetyee.ca/News/2008/05/12/Bill42/?utm_source=mondayheadlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=120508

    but here is the link again for the NYTimes:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/opinion/13tue1.html?_r=1&th=&oref=slogin&emc=th&pagewanted=print
    May 13, 2008
    EDITORIAL
    The Myth of Voter Fraud

  • alive

    4 years ago

    here come de Judge!

    EDITED FOR LEGAL CONCERNS -- TYEE MODERATOR

    Guess that indicates what kind of Judges we are stuck with ?

  • Skywalker

    4 years ago

    Remember when?

    It has always puzzled me that Wally was a well respected Judge way back. Now he sometimes sounds just like another one of Campbell's puppets. Pity.

  • monty

    4 years ago

    The AG

    EDITED FOR LEGAL CONCERNS -- TYEE MODERATOR

  • BC Mary

    4 years ago

    Herb Dahliwal lost his seat even before Voting Day because ...

    Wasn't there some problem with "Block Voting" where people were gathered up to go for a nice bus-ride and vote at the nomination meetings, on command, for the candidate already chosen? With their membership fees mysteriously paid for them?

    Didn't they call it "Martinizing" the B.C. ridings?

    And weren't The Basi Boys the experts?

    Mr Oppal doesn't seem so worried about that aspect of the electoral process.

  • RickW

    4 years ago

    Wally had a bit of a problem

    Wally had a bit of a problem with law and justice. For instance, he thinks all is well with the law in the Merritt murders, and the Oak Bay multiple murders.

    However, these are simply cases where the operations were successful -- even though the patients died.

    Wally! While the laws are working just fine, have you given any thought to the notion that the laws are wrong?

  • ray blessin

    4 years ago

    Neocons

    These "changes" in the electoral system are targeted at only the people who would not vote for the Campbell/Bush party, or the Harper/Bush party. It is SO American.

    The BC "Liberals" are not liberals - they are extreme right-wing neoconservatives.

    Ray Blessin
    Kamloops

  • greengreen

    4 years ago

    Vancouver Central

    I am wondering if anyone has a decent explanation of what happened in the last B.C. election in Vancouver Center? Mayencourt won by a handful of votes. Something very weird happened at one poll and the cast votes were disallowed. There was speculation that the outcome could have been reversed if the votes had been allowed. Always skeptical, I suspect something fishy..fraud or whatever, but there never was any investigation (that I know of).

  • Skywatcher

    4 years ago

    Skywatcher

    This voter ID will discourage the very people who we need to encourage to take part in elections.
    I've worked as a scrutineer in dozens of elections and I have not seen anything suspicious- that a voter may not be what he/she is supposed to be. I guess there must be a bit of fraud somewhere- there always is in anything- but I don't think that is a problem.
    The problems lie in education of voters - that a voter needs to know more than just where to put an x.
    I find it very scary that we must all carry government issued picture ID . Shades of 1984!

  • zalm

    4 years ago

    It WAS fishy....

    Quote:
    I am wondering if anyone has a decent explanation of what happened in the last B.C. election in Vancouver Center? Mayencourt won by a handful of votes. Something very weird happened at one poll and the cast votes were disallowed. There was speculation that the outcome could have been reversed if the votes had been allowed. Always skeptical, I suspect something fishy..fraud or whatever, but there never was any investigation (that I know of).

    ...but Stephenson elected to let it go. I don't remember all the details, but there was an initial recount of the suspect poll, a hundred-odd ballots that were cast early were found to have been not counted, and were not permitted to be counted unless a formal recount was ordered. The recount would have taken two weeks, wouldn't have mattered to the legislature count, and Stephenson did the gentlemanly thing and let one of the oddest ducks we've ever had march back into the legislature to wreak havoc on the poor, disenfranchised, strange, behaviourally-messed-up, and drug-addicted.

  • Skywalker

    4 years ago

    Zalm

    Was that the beginning of the "new civility" that has gotten us were we are now? It seems to me that all the new NDP were a bit naive but Stevenson should have known better.

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