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COPE's Cadman 'Likely' to Run for Mayor

Predicts split left will hand Sullivan another term.

By Monte Paulsen, 2 Apr 2008, TheTyee.ca

David Cadman

Vancouver councillor David Cadman.

Vancouver City Councillor David Cadman is likely to run for mayor, a bid he predicts will likely assure re-election of the right-leaning Non-Partisan Association for another term.

"Members of the party have been very much urging that I lead the party into the next election," Cadman told The Tyee. "In all likelihood, yes, I'll run."

Cadman said the left-leaning Council of Progressive Electors (COPE) has "wasted months" in unsuccessful efforts to join forces with the centre-left Vision Vancouver party in a joint campaign. COPE is expected to begin planning an independent campaign this week.

"We're now at a point where it's pretty clear COPE is going to go its own way," Cadman said. "And the consequence of that, in all likelihood, is that Sam Sullivan will be re-elected."

SFU political scientist Kennedy Stewart agreed with that prognosis.

"COPE can kill Vision, simply by entering the race," Stewart said. "When you have two parties on the left and one on the right, the right wins."

Members stymied by egos, says Cadman

Cadman and other COPE members blame Vision for the breakdown.

"I had hoped that what could have happened --- and I put that in the past tense now --- was to work out a way to run a common mayor, a common slate, and a common campaign," Cadman said.

"I think that could have been done. But I think there is no interest on the part of Vision to do that. They played their hand, and now the time has passed."

Cadman said that most of COPE's 1,200 members want a common campaign, as do most Vision members, but "small groups" of people within each party have persistently derailed efforts toward reconciliation.

"When all is said and done, I think the division is more about personalities than substance," Cadman said, noting that the two parties worked well together on council "99 per cent" of the time.

"I think when history looks at the role they played in breaking up an elected COPE majority, and when history looks at the unwillingness to find accommodation, history will ask, 'Who are these people and how did they put their egos and their interests before the interest of the entire city?'" he said.

Cadman said the COPE executive would meet this Thursday night to "begin batting around dates" and "look at hall availability" for a June nominating convention.

"It's time to decide that, yes, we are going to run a mayor, and, yes, we are going to run a majority --- if not a full slate --- for city council, school board and parks board," Cadman said.

"I'm not comfortable re-electing Sam," he added. "But I really think it's best we all get on and accept we are going to be running against each other."

Vision's recent appeal

Vision Vancouver co-chair Mike Magee said his party still hopes to form an alliance with COPE, particularly around supporting a single mayoral candidate.

"I think we need to explore every conceivable strategy for collaborating to defeat Sam Sullivan," Magee said. "That means working with all progressive forces in this city, including COPE and the Green Party."

Two weeks ago, Vision co-chairs Magee and Carolyn Askew effectively asked COPE to delay selecting a mayoral candidate until after a Vision nominee emerges.

"We would be open to discussions concerning how Vision Vancouver and COPE can work together to re-elect all incumbents, and ensuring we unite the progressive vote to assure victory," stated the March 14 letter.

"Vision Vancouver is currently undergoing a mayoral nomination process. Once this contest has concluded, it is our hope the COPE members will have an opportunity to decide on whether to support that successful individual."

Cadman said that offer was too little, too late. He said the news media would ignore a COPE campaign that lacked a mayoral candidate, hampering the efforts of COPE candidates for council, school board and parks board. And he said that COPE could not wait until after Vision's June 15 nomination meeting to make a decision.

"June is too late. We can't begin to sit down and work things out five months before an election," Cadman said. "The NPA is nominating their candidates on June 8. They are going to campaign through the summer. Our sense is that we should do the same."

'Sullivan will win this thing'

"No one can ensure the re-election of Sam Sullivan better than COPE," said Kennedy Stewart, a political scientist who teaches at Simon Fraser University.

"I think Sullivan will likely win the NPA nomination," he explained. "A COPE candidate will win 20,000 votes. Those votes will come at the expense of the Vision candidate. So if COPE run, Sullivan will win this thing."

That argument was proven in 2005, when an independent mayoral candidate named James Green won 4,273 votes. Sullivan won the race with 61,543 votes, beating Vision Vancouver candidate (and former COPEster) Jim Green, who carried 57,796 votes --- a difference of only 3,747.

"On the other hand, if COPE and Vision can get together, Sullivan will get crushed," Stewart said.

"Historically, a candidate has only needed about 60,000 votes to become mayor of this city," Stewart explained. That's about the same number of people it takes to fill B.C. Place stadium.

"The NPA has pretty well maxed out its universe," he said. "Turnout in neighbourhoods such as Shaughnessy and Kerrisdale and other parts of the NPA base are already up to 80 or 90 per cent. They're not going to find many more voters there. The only thing the NPA could do to expand its base is to appeal to other types of voters. But then their vote share would drop in those traditional NPA neighbourhoods."

Parties such as Vision or COPE, on the other hand, can appeal to the creative class and ethnic voters who are driving Vancouver's growth, he said.

"That's how Larry Campbell won 80,000 votes in 2005. You're never going to see Sam Sullivan win 80,000 votes, no matter what he does," Stewart said.

"If COPE and Vision could get it together --- and if they ran full slates --- you could actually see the NPA get entirely wiped out," he concluded.

Expect 'bitter' campaign: Cadman

The Tyee asked Cadman whether COPE would welcome an individual candidate seeking the support of COPE's membership in advance of the Vision nomination.

"I've had those conversations," Cadman said. "I think the Vision mayoral candidates are afraid to step forward to be the candidate of unity out of fear that it may cost them votes in a Vision nominating meeting."

Conversely, Cadman sees Vision's wide-open mayoral nomination contest as a potential opportunity for COPE.

"Nobody knows who the Vision candidate is going to be." Cadman said.

"We could wind up with Sam Sullivan representing the NPA and Al De Genova --- who elected Sam --- representing Vision. I think that would leave a broad swath of progressive voters who would be inclined to support me.

"If Al wins, Vision will no longer be a progressive organization. Al has very clearly said he wants to take the party to the right," Cadman said. "...a De Genova victory would be the end of Vision."

Cadman predicted that in that event, progressives and New Democrats would turn to COPE to rebuild a coalition with labour, which has funded previous COPE efforts. The party remains deeply in debt from its 2002 campaign, which elected a majority council under Mayor Larry Campbell.

"The nature of this campaign, unfortunately, is that it's going to get very bitter," Cadman said.

TOMORROW: Vision Candidates

NEXT WEEK: NPA Candidates

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  • DPL

    4 years ago

    Cadman appears ready to help

    Cadman appears ready to help let the rightwingers keep control of city hall. I used to belong to COPE when we lived in Vancouver. Even then some of the folks in the group were far more interested in scoring points on other members than winning elections.The untra lefties demanded stuff that no government could provide. COPE blew it lastime with their internal bickering. COPE has one elected council member, Cadman. When he blows himself up in the upcoming election COPE will have no one to blame but their own guy. Give your heads a shake COPE, get onside with Vision and you might actually help get control of the city. Cadman has flawed thinking and it appears he will do anyhting to mess up the lefts chances this time around. The idea that a ex NPA guy could be the Visions candidate is a very very slim idea.

  • bun

    4 years ago

    is he crazy ?

    Uh, David Cadman says he'll run, KNOWING that this will hand the election to the NPA (Sam Sullivan - ughh). has he lost his mind ? KNOWINGLY handing the election to the hated opposition ? What on earth could he possibly achieve by doing that ?

    As a COPE supporter, I really really hope this is a bluff, his "Samson strategy" to get Vision to strike a last-minute deal.
    If so, it better darn well work, cuz if Vision doesn't blink, and COPE does hand the election to the NPA, COPE will pay dearly afterward.

    (Vision has a lot of explaining to do as well, but with a vibrant field of candidates, their hand is a lot stronger than COPE's, and Cadman should recognize that.)

  • Budd Campbell

    4 years ago

    HOW LITTLE I CARE

    Try to imagine how little I care. Until the GVRD is amalgamated into a single, fully integrated city with one Mayor, these idiotic, local-yokel contests to control one of the metro area's rival property fiefdoms are incredibly boring and totally dysfunctional. A pure waste of time, no matter what.

  • Gustav

    4 years ago

    Shrewd Move

    I'm glad that COPE has finally taken this step. Vision has arrogantly spurned all efforts at reconciliation, not to mention having caused the split on the left in the first place. That being the case, perhaps COPE can now attract Vision's attention and force it to open a discussion about joint action, including the drafting of a joint programme.

    One element of such a programme should be a commitment to scrap the winner-take-all system for electing the Mayor. A preferential ballot (my first choice) or second-ballot run-off would allow all political tendencies to field candidates while letting a majority of the voters choose the ultimate victor. If either system had been in place in 2005, Soapy Sam would not have become Vancouver's accidental (and accident-prone) mayor.

  • gordon

    4 years ago

    At first I was concerned...

    With all the candidates in this election I was getting concerned, now its almost a 3 ring circus, do these wannabes really love Vancouver and want to band together to get rid of Sullivan, or are they all hungry for some Olympic glory? What is it with BC politics, it looks like a race for the shortsighted and inept. ARRRRGGGH

  • mainstradical

    4 years ago

    Jumping ship

    Well, that's it. I'm quitting COPE, joining Vision, and voting for Robinson. I suggest the rest of COPE do the same.

  • bpither1

    4 years ago

    Having lived in Scandinavia

    Having lived in Scandinavia for many years I was impressed with how apparently dissimilar parties on the Left and Centre found enough common ground to work for progressive and humane solutions. That's just a part of their political culture. On the other hand in THIS country we are so self absorbed in a "narcissism of small differences" that we cut off our noses to spite our face.

    That's why Vision and Cope will throw sand at each other from their separate sand boxes.

    And that's why the Bloc, Liberals and NDP will never work together to defeat the Conservatives and form a coalition government (can you imagine!).

    Harper moves along with his social agenda and we can get another dose of the NPA in Vancouver

    Thank you very much Canada.

  • Bobby Peru

    4 years ago

    Politics of Envy and Political Correctness

    Budd Campbell was correct in his posting above- the GVRD has to be amalgamated as one entity to properly run all of our municipalities. The problem is Greater Vancouver is much like any Marxist organization: there is too much democracy. Too many voices have to be heard and considered. A simple majority isn't enough and everything has to be put to a vote. Every enviromentalist nut job and squirrel matters. And nothing gets done and the environment actually worsens.

    The left or Marxist factions of municipal politics has to give way to politicians who are more focussed on city services and planning than saving the world. If they want to accomplish the latter they should get into Federal politics. Most homeowners in the Lower Mainland want municipal politicians to stick to the basic service issues.

  • City Person

    4 years ago

    Madness

    Quote:
    "And the consequence of that, in all likelihood, is that Sam Sullivan will be re-elected."

    Quote:
    I'm glad that COPE has finally taken this step.

    What utter madness. Cope is basically a done deal. It is over. It was even to way out for its own mayor. Times have changed and Vision was born. Gregor and his Rug have a good chance of doing well. Cope is going to be slung on the dung heap.

    And of course, an amalgamated city with a ward system is really what is necessary when one considers that Metro Vancouver has half of the province's population.

  • Veal Oinckton

    4 years ago

    NPA Oinker to Run Riot in Mayor's Race

    Sadly, Mr. Paulsen's article neglects to acknowledge a new candidate who has been largely dismissed by the mainstream media.

    Poseidon Hippodromios, in a late-entry shocker that will turn this civic race higgledy-piggledy, announced his candidacy for the Mayor's seat at a special press conference at City Hall on Tuesday.

    The 28 year old pig, also known as "Poseidon the Perpetual", is the endorsed front runner of the New Porcine Association, which hopes to sway disgruntled voters on a platform of
    "NO MORE SPAM FROM SAM".

    The NPA is an independent alliance of enlightened pigs who snore, grunt, and lolly-gag in the Greater Vancouver area. Envisioned as a coalition of political parties that wallows to the right, our mandate is to support the election of the most intelligent, charismatic and well-groomed candidate for civic office. Robertson and DeGenova, be very afraid.

    Further details at:

    http://www.npa-vancouver.com.

  • Leaflet

    4 years ago

    bun wrote: "(Vision has a

    bun wrote: "(Vision has a lot of explaining to do as well, but with a vibrant field of candidates, their hand is a lot stronger than COPE's, and Cadman should recognize that.)"

    Following COPE's overtures, Vision spokesperson's as much as said to COPE: "We are more powerful than you and don't need you, so piss off with your offers of co-operation."

    Now that COPE has pissed off and started to do their legitimate political thing, we can comfortably predict that all the sanctimonious supporters of responsible moderation will point an indignant finger at COPE for just doing what political parties do when they are on their own and fighting an election. COPE didn't want to be alone, it was Vision's idea to be alone.

    "The nature of this campaign, unfortunately, is that it's going to get very bitter," Cadman said.

    Not necessarily in the case of COPE. COPE needs to just stick to the issues, argue them thoughtfully and build a reputation for being focussed on the well-being of the working class majority in Vancouver. If it doesn't pay of in this election it will eventually pay off. Run a bitter negative campaign and COPE will suffer the same fate as befell Nader as people remember for years to come how COPE ruined all hope for "responsible moderate" governance in Vancouver.

    Stick to the facts; be a Mensch; eventually the electorate will understand who is full of it and who is genuinely concerned about a just, inclusive society in our wonderful city.

  • Grumpy

    4 years ago

    David Cadman.......

    .......Vancouver's resident political and environmental windbag, is going to split the mayoralty vote out of pure spite. Greatly over estimating his political savvy, he will further fracture a greatly fractured civic political scene.

    COPE's best strategy, try to elect electable councillors and forget the mayors position as it is vastly over rated. It is council, not the mayor, which runs the city.

    A note to COPE: Ditch Ellen Wordsworth, another legend in her own mind as she, more than anyone else, caused COPE's collapse.

  • biscotti

    4 years ago

    Ellen Woodsworth

    Quote:
    A note to COPE: Ditch Ellen Wordsworth, another legend in her own mind as she, more than anyone else, caused COPE's collapse.

    Ellen Woodsworth has devoted much of her life to social change and public service.

    Go ahead and question her positions, but don't question her integrity.

  • Budd Campbell

    4 years ago

    SOME TRUTH TO WHAT YOU SAY BOBBY

    The left or Marxist factions of municipal politics has to give way to politicians who are more focussed on city services and planning than saving the world

    There's certainly some truth to this description from Bobby Peru of the pathetic, navel-gazing left in Vancouver. Smug, fashion-obsessed poseurs who really are prepared to argue psuedo-philosophical mumbo jumbo till 3 am. It's a description that applies pretty well to COPE, and to some degree to the crowd at Corrigan's Burnaby City Hall.

    However, left wind kooks are not the fundamental problem in the GVRD, which is hobbled just as much by right wing nuts. The real problem is that any rational, vote-maximizing politician looks at the present map of municipal boundary lines and immediately recognizes a crazy quilt of little patch work segments. And that becomes their political goal posts. The larger metro area doesn't exist for them.

    So any rational planning for land use or transportation is impossible, because that's not the game. The game is pleasing those all powerful homeowner/voters who live in that particular municipal fiefdom.

    The municipalities in the GVRD are rivals in a game of oligopolistic competition to attract developers' investment dollars. The GVRD structure pretends that these are mature governmental organizations ready to cooperate intelligently for the benefit of all the of the regions residents, a ridiculous fiction.

  • City Person

    4 years ago

    Fossils

    Political fossils like Cadman, Corrigan and Wordsworth keep on hangin' on because civic politics do not get the attention they deserve.

    If for one miss Larry Campbell. He told it like it was. He spoke for Joe Taxpayer. He dumped his own party for being the fossilised wing nuts that they are. I still laugh when "the bus rider's union" crashed a meeting and he said, "bus rider equals loser." He apologised for it but he didn't mean it and many others agreed with him. They don't call it the "loser cruiser" for nothin'.

    The best was, "Any city council that would reject $1.5 BILLION of federal money has to border on lunacy."

    At least it was entertaining. This lot is like watching paint dry. Corrigan pouts more than a seven year old who didn't get an invite to a birthday.

  • Bobby Peru

    4 years ago

    Valley of the Blind

    Look, I even understand NIMBYISM- even I would vehemently oppose anything running through my neighbourhood regardless of the greater good. After all, it's only a natural response. But some of the left wing nuts- outright Marxists who crawl out of the woodwork and inhabit City Hall are too incredible to believe. I mean, your Tim Louis types, who even once advocated holding City Hall meetings at his house like a Communist 'cell' style should move to North Korea or Cuba if they want to find out how it's really like to live in a People's paradise.

    Ultimately, citizens want their elected city officials to take care of city services not preach to them about socialism or try to tell them how to live their lives. Really, not everyone wants to live commune style, is able to take public transit or wants a 'no fun city'.

    I'm sure there are right wing nuts, but I'd like to hear what makes them right wing. Is advocating private subcontracting as bad as cell meetings? Face it, private subcontracting can and has worked in certain public services so vilifying it as a right wing disease is childish.

    If the GVRD amalgamated it might result in higher stakes politics, higher calibre candidates rather than what we have today - as Budd Campbell said- a patchwork of moving goalposts and districts small enough for any nut to get elected in.

  • Frank

    4 years ago

    Bob

    Quote:
    Ultimately, citizens want their elected city officials to take care of city services not preach to them about socialism or try to tell them how to live their lives.

    Or fly around at public expense waving a flag at Olympic parties? Does anyone seriously believe someone standing in the crowd in Turin made reservations at the Hotel Vancouver because of that?

    Quote:
    Really, not everyone wants to live commune style, is able to take public transit or wants a 'no fun city'.

    The NPA has ruled Vancouver most of the time. If its no fun to live there blame the NPA, not the opposition.

    Quote:
    I'm sure there are right wing nuts, but I'd like to hear what makes them right wing.

    Sure, go here

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/story/4153989p-4742409c.html

  • bun

    4 years ago

    know when to fold them

    Leaflet,

    As Keynes said, eventually, we are all dead.

    I agree with Grumpy - forget the mayoral chair, and concentrate on electing good Councillors. They MUST recognize that they have a much much weaker mayoral case than Vision this time around and it would not benefit them, neither in the short or long run, to split the vote and ensure an NPA victory there.

    In fact, if they blow it for progressives and ensure the regressives win again, COPE could get wiped out, for good. any party that cuts off its nose to spite its face is not exhibiting clear thinking, and we need clear thinking at City Hall.

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