'High with a Little Help from My Friends'
Harper's sing-a-long video may score political points but beware the power of viral.
'I just need someone to love.'
In the perpetual election campaign that is federal minority politics, Prime Minister Stephen Harper had a pretty good weekend.
At Saturday's National Arts Centre gala, he joined Yo-Yo Ma on stage to sing The Beatles' "With A Little Help from My Friends," accompanying himself on the piano. Harper's moment of glory went viral thanks to conservative blogger Stephen Taylor, though a different clip was posted first by Joel Quarrington, a double bass player standing off stage.
Around 200,000 people have watched different versions of the clip so far, not that many by viral video standards, but seemingly every political reporter in the country has jumped on the story. The Toronto Star took the time to point out that Harper was participating in one of the high society galas he disparaged last September. The Globe, for its part, published a retrospective of political musical acts.
It's true that Harper's musical move is far from original -- Bill Clinton, Brian Mulroney, even Karl Rove have performed at one time or another. But in the last few years, YouTube has upped the stakes. These powerful men used to make themselves look a bit silly in front of relatively intimate crowds -- donors, party operatives, voters committed enough to attend a rally. But now, anything as surreal as a big name politician singing is going to go viral, ideally making the same sort of authentic, emotional connection with voters as a well-planned photo op.
A viral video might spread rapidly, but it can go wrong just as quickly. Harper's viral clip looks like an image victory from the outset, but it is being viewed by a lot of people not disposed to feel affection for our prime minister. To my admittedly anti-Tory eyes, Harper doesn't look like a nice guy or a good sport -- he looks faintly uncomfortable, and badly matched with The Beatles. I feel manipulated. And in two weeks, when this video is the only image of Harper that most Canadian voters can easily recall, will his team really be happy with, "I get high with a little help from my friends" as a take-home message?
Before planning their viral career, politicians everywhere should remember the cautionary tale of John Ashcroft. In 2002, then U.S. attorney general Ashcroft performed his own song, "Let the Eagle Soar," at a function at the Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. At times seeming to choke up, he sang lines like, "This country's far too young to die / she's still got a lot of climbing to do." He also distributed his lyrics to staff at the justice department, encouraging them to join rousing renditions during staff meetings. Rather than emphasizing Ashcroft's patriotic, sympathetic side, when the song went viral it made him into an international punch line.
Harper has probably escaped Ashcroft's fate, but for future reference: stick to covers, Mr. Prime Minister. ![]()




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Vidiot
2 years ago
Rights paid?
Do the Jackson estate attorneys know that Harper is using their song to promote his business (getting elected)?
realisticman
2 years ago
A winner!
Here's the COMPLETE version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCbVw03zEyU&feature=related
Various versions are on YouTube and together over 400,000 have watched it and over 3,000 people have commented - mostly favourably.
JoelQuarrington
2 years ago
My little video
I filmed the clip from my seat in the orchestra so I was hardly off stage.
Watching the numbers of YouTube hits grow has been fascinating; even though CTV came out with a far better video, mine has still received over 30,000 hits.
The comments my video has received have been amazing.
85% have been from people that recognize the spirit of fun that this performance was even if they support other political parties.
The remainder have ranged from plain old Harper-haters to real lunatics. I suppose I am being naive, but I am shocked by the sick postings that I have deleted.
One needs to have some talent to pull off what Harper did and I for one appreciate that he made the effort and showed a human side I didn't know was there.
By the way, the Arts Centre has a SOCAN licensing agreement that covers performance rights of all kinds of different repertoire, so Vidiot (above)shouldn't bother worrying about the Jackson estate.
danneau
2 years ago
Wrong Song
The double irony of Harper's choice of material is frightening: the Tom D'Aquino/John Manley crowd have helped him to do significant damage to an already tattered society, while he has consistently subverted people's ability to work together in any kind of cooperative fashion. I would have suggested "Fool On The Hill" as more appropriate to the circumstances.
Skywalker
2 years ago
Let's hope.
Maybe he will quit his day job. We can only hope there are enough fans to support another ego maniac.
puppyg
2 years ago
Feelings... nothing more than feelings
Love the Nixon analogy. (Gk. anus + logos)
Call me poopy, but this stunt looks like something we've seen before, the would-be-emperor plucking out a few notes before his chosen and wisely adoring court.
Stephen Harper may be our Imelda Marcos. Oh, how Mme. Marcos loved to warm up her political audiences with a song! "She sings very well", all would utter after her rendition of 'Feelings' before they moved on to the business of the day.
Canadians are not served well by media that laud Harper for his phony feelgood cleverness and that present us with poll after suspect poll showing the Conservatives breaking out. To many of us, the bias is sickening.
Check out reader comments on today's story of Canwest seeking court protection as a clue to why the media giant is crashing. Canadians are tired of being fed Fox-style right-wing viewpoints.
Perhaps, when the dust settles, something better will take its place and we will again have some balance in Canadian news-reporting.
G West
2 years ago
God
What an asshole!
BC Mary
2 years ago
Does this mean
that Steve's rendition has trumped that god-awful duet sung by Mulroney & Reagan?
How did it go? When Schreiber's eyes are smiling ... ?
If those aren't the correct lyrics, they should be. Allegedly it was thanks entirely to Karlheinz Schreiber that Mulroney won the Conservative leadership, and became prime minister. Talk about getting "a little help" from his so-called friends!
Had it not been for Schreiber, Joe Clark would've remained PM.
realisticman
2 years ago
Great Comment
"What an asshole!"
As long as we have psudo-neo-intellectuals making comments like this Stephen Harper will continue to rise in the polls.
All anyone has to do is scan a few of the comments on YouTube to clearly see that the overwhelming majority of viewers have a much more favourable opinion of Stephen Harper than they had before.
The super-scary 'hidden agenda' that they tried to plaster over him is washing off fast!
G West
2 years ago
Hidden agenda?
For political reasons, Harper has for years avoided uttering his desire for a majority. But in a private partisan speech that has leaked out, he repeatedly discusses his desire to achieve one.
In the speech to fellow Tories, Harper also describes how their party has kept leftists from being appointed to public institutions - including the courts.
“Imagine how many left-wing ideologues they would be putting in the courts, federal institutions, agencies, the Senate? I should say, how many more, they would be putting in,” Harper said.
The prime minister expressed pride in having killed off the Court Challenges Program - a government fund used by what he described as “left-wing fringe groups.”
That fund, created by the Trudeau Liberals, helped fund court cases by women’s groups, minority-language groups, gay-rights groups, and deaf people who demanded sign language in hospitals.
The Bloc says it’s particularly bothered by the comment about the judiciary.
... behind closed doors, Harper sounds like a member of the U.S. Republican party - and not even a mainstream one, but a member of its radical fringe.
That hidden agenda - and, yeh, asshole.
Bob Watts
2 years ago
Harper is not a Hero.
I agree fully with G West. To me a vote for Harper is not a vote for Jesus Christ himself, as so many right wing Christians think. 64% of the Canadian population DID NOT VOTE FOR HARPER, he is not loved. The Liberals left a $60 billion dollar surplus and Harper pissed it all away. Most large companys in Canada are foriegn owned so that $60 billion went where? Canada's corporate tax rates are less than the USA all ready. Harper is now running this country on borrowed money, what an asshole. Countries run on tax revenues so canceling taxes and giving away surpluses will run this country into the ditch. Why are conservatives so blind, or is it just they are just plain blinded by greed. How about this, God gave the wealth of this country to us all equally. Harper could have ended child poverty with that $60 billion, and because he lets kids go to bed hungry, he's an asshole. 200,000 homeless in Canada, asshole, food banks, asshole, first nations kids that kill themselfs because this country has nothing to offer them asshole. Liberals also take part of the blame over the years, but Harper just had a $60 billion surplus, and he wants a little help from his friends, bite me! Asshole!
You know if Harper gets his way I'll have a gag order on me, just like that right winger Campbell wanted to gag the population in BC.
I don't dream of a christian police state.
PS: It was Harper's wifes idea for him to go sing, Harper is void of original ideas. I just love seeing the NDP and the Quebec seperatists getting what normal people "NEED" by pulling Harper's puppet strings, asshole on a rope, LOL.
realisticman
2 years ago
Don't worry, be happy
Monday, October 5, 2009 - PARIS -
"Norway takes the number one spot in the annual United Nations human development index released Monday, while Canada ranks fourth in the list.
The top ten countries listed on the index are: Norway, Australia, Iceland, Canada, Ireland, the Netherlands, Sweden, France, Switzerland and Japan.
The index compiled by the UN Development Program (UNDP) ranks 182 countries based on such criteria as life expectancy, literacy, school enrollment and gross domestic product (GDP) per capita."
During an interview yesterday one of the researchers was asked how Canada had slipped to #4. She said that Norway was top because of their wealth, otherwise Canada would be top. Norway's wealth comes from offshore-oil, so what we need now is to start drilling off-shore here, soon.
realisticman
2 years ago
That hidden agenda
That's great. Stick to it - please. It's a winner!
G West
2 years ago
Hmmm
That puts us behind the all but officially bankrupt Iceland and ahead of an Irish economy that's on life support.
Some crowd.
And Norway, would that be the same place that just elected a socialist government?
realisticman
2 years ago
Off-shore might help
Maybe that's what's needed to get the NDP in power? Drill for oil, everyone becomes rich, then we can afford a socialist rejime.
"Oslo, Norway - Norwegians returned Jens Stoltenberg's center-left government to power. Norway has been buoyed by its oil wealth through the global recession – probably a decisive factor in the narrow victory for the three-party coalition that Prime Minister Stoltenberg leads.
During the elections in Norway the main dispute was basically about the effective utilization of the huge financial assets received from export of oil. The matter is that Norway has its own stocks of oil that allows it to take the third place in the world on the export of this product. As a result of a rise in prices of oil through the last years, the country managed to create a special "fund for descendants", which currently has a huge sum of $190 billion (approximately 41000 dollars for each citizen of the country). At the moment Norway is on the first place in the world on a standard of living."
Skywalker
2 years ago
Are you aware of all the moderately talented..
...talented celebrities that as person are nothing more than a horse's hind quarters. Some of them can even hold a tune but I wouldn't pay to go see them or want them as Prime Minister, This kind of superficial stuff only means something to the lower level intellect. I recall that Campbell once put on a plaid shirt and strummed a guitar and we know how that turned out. Please Stephen quit your day job abd try making it on your talents.
freebear
2 years ago
Fool on the Hill - Good one! LOL!
I wish someone would have slammed down the cover on his hands while he was tickling the ivories!
They really do think we are sheeple!
Bob Watts
2 years ago
Oil Wealth
A little quick research. Norway shares their oil and gas wealth with the population by law. They have about 4 mil people we have about 30 mil our population is 7.8 times as much as Norway, but our oil reserves are 18 times as much as Norway.
Big surprise is Norway owns thier oil companies and hires outsiders to extract the oil and gas. Our leaders should be taken out back and whipped for giving this countries wealth away.
Every school kid knows how to play Monopoly, never sell your assets, buy and own everything, the federal gov sold our national railway to the USA and BC sold its railway as well.
Harper is not as smart as a 5th grader!
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
With apologies to the classically-trained one:
The concert should have been billed as:
A performance by two Yo-Yo-s.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
By the way, Bob Watts
I believe it was actually an Iranian ex-pat who worked for the Norwegian oil ministry and worked out the deal on how to exploit Norway's oil riches and permit the Norwegian populace to benefit.
I'll post his particulars to verify.
Frank
2 years ago
Norway
Canada has more oil but Canadians don't benefit from our resources. To do so would mean we were socialists or something so its not on the agenda.
Child poverty on the other hand is something every Conservative is proud of.
Alison Creekside
2 years ago
With a little help from his "friends"
Pop up video remix ;-)
realisticman
2 years ago
One of his friends
CANADIAN PRESS
Last Updated: 6th October 2009
OTTAWA — Jim Flaherty is the finance minister of the year, according to an influential European economic magazine.
Euromoney magazine presented the award to the Canadian finance minister on Tuesday in Turkey.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Flats getting an award
So the captain of the Titanic gives an Ensign an award for seamanship. After hitting the iceberg.
Hubris knows no bounds.
You think the economy is on the rebound, in part thanks to Flaherty?
Talk to me next summer.
biscotti
2 years ago
musical motives
Linda McQuaig astutely pointed out in "The Quick and the Dead: Brian Mulroney, Big Business and the Seduction of Canada" the real subtext of the story of young Brian singing for a visiting US CEO.
It wasn't significant because he went on to a musical career; it was all about pleasing foreign economic interests.
With Heritage Minister James Moore posturing about BC arts cuts (http://thetyee.ca/News/2009/09/28/ArtsCuts/index.html) and now the PM playing a Beatles tune, it's clear that a cultural makeover of the Harper regime is underway.
realisticman
2 years ago
With a Little Help from song, Stephen Harper's fortunes on rise
Canwest News Service October 6, 2009 6:24 PM
"Harper is enjoying new popularity after he took the stage at a black-tie gala at the National Arts Centre Saturday night to play the piano and sing the Beatles classic With a Little Help From My Friends. The video was the most popular YouTube file in Canada Monday, and peaked at No. 5 on YouTube's worldwide most-popular list.
"It's a little bigger than we thought it would be," Harper said Tuesday during an interview with a Toronto radio station.
Harper said his wife, Laureen, convinced him to perform at the gala, which was a fundraiser for the National Youth and Education Trust, which helps young artists and schools."
Bob Watts
2 years ago
To: Dr. Alexander...
Mr. King, is that you?
Anyway a government can only be one thing, and thats a socialist Co-op. Eg: Running schools, police force, army, pave roads etc.
But now a days its about giving corporations tax breaks for donating out of date waste. Paying churchs to store the poor in hopes that the poor will find jesus, then the poor can shovel crap till they die, and be rewarded in the next life, I see Campbell is not waiting for his reward, LOL.
poetician
2 years ago
just who are these friends?
Not Marc Emery it seems, or anyone else who is a socialist, anti free market capitalist, etc. Seems it's only the oil lobby and it's ilk who qualify. Stephen, don't you know sniffing gas to get high rots the brain... oh wait it's already too late.
dorothy
2 years ago
There's a question...
"the overwhelming majority of viewers have a much more favourable opinion of Stephen Harper than they had before."
As what, though? Must admit I didn't have any opinion of him as a performer before, good or bad. And now? well, it's not what I pay him for doing. Is he taking care of my affairs, which I delegated to him and pay him for looking after? If so, he can sing as he pleases, but it won't count on his resume in my book...sorry...
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
realistically, Mr Minority's performance ...
... was fair for an amateur.
Certainly better than his professional performance :
http://tinyurl.com/HarperSteady
Skywalker
2 years ago
R/man
So Canwest says Harper is more popular because he "performed". It is that kind of insulting and moronic analysis that best explains why Canwest is in bankruptcy protection. Doesn't say much for the intelligence of the public if they believe such nonsense.
jsinger
2 years ago
Why is he blue when everyone else looks normal?
This video has been driving me crazy because Harper is blue/grey while everyone else has a normal human colour. Why?? Doesn't anyone else notice this?
realisticman
2 years ago
don't shoot the messenger skywalker
They're just reporting YouTube stats'
"The video was the most popular YouTube file in Canada Monday, and peaked at No. 5 on YouTube's worldwide most-popular list.'
As Andrew Steele says in the Globe:
"Politics isn’t just about policy. It’s about approach and attitude and how a leader makes you feel. "
The next poll should tell much.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Bob Watts: No I am not Mr. King
I'm Dr Alexander
Lived in Norway for over six years. Moved back a few years ago. My standard of living dropped by moving back, but Tim Horton's didn't have a franchise in Oslo so my return was inevitable.
Norway is nice, but it's not perfect. No place is.
happy
2 years ago
Uh, West
Your quote:
"In the speech to fellow Tories, Harper also describes how their party has kept leftists from being appointed to public institutions - including the courts."
What about Doer?
(Does that make three?)
Cheers
G West
2 years ago
happy
My recollection is that the Doer appointment came AFTER the speech at the Sault...besides, Pee Wee has 'something' he wants from Jack right now anyway... a more attenuated 'grip' on the power he's coveted for so long...
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
realistically, Norway's sovereign wealth fund ...
... is 26 times larger than Alberta's :
http://www.swfinstitute.org/funds.php
Norway ~$400 billion : Alberta $12 billion. And Canada gets: rien.
Liquidating non-renewable natural capital (like bitumen and gas) without benefit to the owners (the public) is inconsistent with true Tory philosophy :
http://tinyurl.com/WitherAlberta
Mr. Minority needs more than friends
realisticman
2 years ago
Rien? J' espere que vous jestez?
"Between 2000 and 2020, oil sands development has the potential to generate at least $123 billion in royalty and tax revenues for Canada’s federal and provincial governments."
http://www.oilsandsdevelopers.ca/index.php?s=royalties&x=12&y=6
G West
2 years ago
That's TAR SANDS
Remember?
realisticman
2 years ago
Bitumen is oil
Tar is modified resin produced primarily from the wood and roots of pine by destructive distillation under pyrolysis.
The word "tar" is often used to describe several distinct substances which are not actually tar.
Naturally occurring or crude bitumen is a sticky, tar-like form of petroleum.
It's a mistake many uninformed people make.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Tar vs. Oil
It may be that the "petroleum sands" of Alberta may be more semantically termed as "oil sands", however I think G West is just trying to reset the compass to the historical, and thus the more resonant and connecting term "tar sands".
I don't dispute the semantics realisticman. I still meet PC opposition when I use the term "sex" instead of the appropriately cleansed and, to me, scientifically and socially meaningless term of "gender".
But Hey! I'm old school.
realisticman
2 years ago
Hey, Doc...
I appreciate that a certain poster does, quite frequently actually, require as much assistance as can be mustered. Nevertheless, your sanitizing of the incorrect euphemism with platitudes including 'more resonant' and 'connecting' may well ring true to those that chatter together in, as you say, old school hangouts but the correct term holds and any suggestion otherwise remains spurious. With all due respect sir, perhaps diligence towards those that make errors would be indicated rather than attempting to convince those that are right, that a wrong is even vaguely acceptable.
Old school used to signify correctness.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Bitumened and Feathered
My point is that an accurate and fully descriptive term is entirely appropriate. But not necessarily the best course to plot as the focus starts to become the term rather than the issue.
In trying to correct a historical descriptor, some problems can arise.
Renaming something that has already been branded, can lead to confusion as implicit with renaming is a kind of moving of the goalposts or re-framing of the argument. This usually does not work well and I can think of only a couple of examples of successful use of renaming for the purpose of reframing and that is changing "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" or "sex" to "gender"
From many people's point of view, Tar Sands is not a negative term. I lived in Calgary many years ago as a university student and Tar Sands was what it was called. If the Tar Sands actually contained chocolate syrup, I am still going to call it Tar Sands because it is a term historically familiar to me and to many people and is not implicitly charged to me because it contains the term "tar". Tar is not a bad thing when it is used properly.
Besides, you know that G West is just trying to get a rise out of you.
G West
2 years ago
Honest words....
Why do you think the thugs want to change the name from TAR SANDS to oil sands?
Because of the traditional 'negative' associations attendant to the word 'tar'...the current environmental holocaust going on in Northern Alberta is aptly described by such references, always has been and always should be.
The attempt to play fast and loose with the emotions and opinions of impressionable and largely stupid people ought to be 'beneath' anyone who has a moral core. At least have the intestinal fortitude to accept the implications and costs of your beliefs…don’t try to hide from them by a facile exercise in re-naming…as Shakespeare said – ‘…a rose by any name, would smell as sweet’…
What we are doing to the country and the atmosphere is a crime against nature and the future of humanity...'tar' with its dirty, black and viscous associations is exactly the right word for this crime...
The fact of the matter is exactly as Dr Alexander has said, a fact which my many relatives in the oil industry and the mechanical engineering field will attest to. At least they are honest enough not to try and lie about what they’re doing.
The name for that region of the Athabaska drainage basin where open pit mining of bitumen is taking place now has always been the Athabaska TAR SANDS...only people with an axe to grind - people like Pee Wee Rambo and Michael Ignatieff - would try to foist such a facile exercise in renaming upon the Canadian people.
They do their cause, honesty and tradition no service whatsoever.
Any opportunity an honest man has to remind a wide range of readers exactly what kind of a shell game such people are up to is an opportunity not to be wasted.
realisticman
2 years ago
What about shale
Is there a cute nasty colloquial misnomer for that too?
Fort William and Port Arthur should be used too.
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
realistically, bitumen mining in Canada ...
... can't profit the owners as long as Alberta governments liquidate the capital :
http://pubs.pembina.org/reports/Owner_Factsheet.pdf
It's starting to make Canadians wish they were Norwegian.
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Harper's NEP ...
... linking his xenophobia with his incompetent management :
http://tinyurl.com/HarpersNewNEP
With friends like Harper, Alberta needs a lot of help getting high.
Maybe from the Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition :
http://www.canada.com/Business/Grit+leader+flatters+Alberta+criticizes+Tories/1760756/story.html
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Harper's little helpers ...
... in the Awl Bidness [as the Texans say] aren't even paying the pittance they owe the owners.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/Royalty+miscalculations+cost+Alberta+millions/2060530/story.html
zalm
2 years ago
The real God-zilla
As long as we have psudo-neo-intellectuals making comments like this Stephen Harper will continue to rise in the polls.
All anyone has to do is scan a few of the comments on YouTube to clearly see that the overwhelming majority of viewers have a much more favourable opinion of Stephen Harper than they had before.
The super-scary 'hidden agenda' that they tried to plaster over him is washing off fast!
Especially when none of the newspapers looks at it. It's not Harper's thoughts that concern me so much, as those of the one who is doing his thinking for him - Darrel Reid. Another man who believes dinosaurs walked the earth 6000 years ago and shares more resemblances to Pastor Fred Phelps than Joe Canuck.
http://dawn.thot.net/harperstiestousa/Darrel_Reid.htm
You know, R'man, you're brighter than you let on. So why're you falling for this cheap shill who's all set to bring Armageddon on so that God can sort us all out? Canvas Goebbels rags aren't a source of news for anyone over the age of 6 not yet reading the comics.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Back to the Point! Harper getting High with help from friends
It seems to me that the friend is quite obviously Rahim Jaffer.
Although I suspect that Rahim's presence around the PMO's office is about as welcome as Mulroney's.
zalm
2 years ago
Fishing for compliments in a glass of water
OTTAWA — Jim Flaherty is the finance minister of the year, according to an influential European economic magazine.
Euromoney magazine presented the award to the Canadian finance minister on Tuesday in Turkey.
Well, it would appear that the Economist would disagree with both you and Flaherty. The most the prestigious Economist will credit him with is purchasing his popularity with taxpayer dollars all summer. Not exactly a supernova among finance ministers.
And Harper comes off as venal as Iggy in refusing to make Parliament work. Not exactly a role model for statesmanship, is it?
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14506460
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man may be king, but he's still handicapped, and we need able-bodied gimps at the wheel of our ship of state.
zalm
2 years ago
Of course..
...every once in a while, even the Economist gets it a bit cock-eyed. Editor a little too deep in his cups, perhaps, doing some taste-testing?
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14419412
zalm
2 years ago
Even Vaughn Palmer
...has given up playing Rip Van Winkle and woken from his somnolence.
To read those and other comments from government MLAs is to discover how far the B.C. Liberals have departed from the principles of openness and fiscal discipline they professed when seeking office at the outset of this decade.
For the independent budget officer is a fundamentally populist and taxpayer-friendly notion, in the sense of providing a check on the tendencies of governments of every political stripe to minimize the cost of their promises and the downside of their growth, revenue and deficit projections.
Nor is the proposal necessarily an NDP idea. The Canadian budget officer was proposed by none other than Conservative party leader and ex-Reformer Stephen Harper when running for office in 2006. Now that Harper is prime minister, of course, he's inclined to a somewhat different view
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Time+breed+budget+watchdog/2075088/story.html
0 for 3 retires the side, R'man.
realisticman
2 years ago
Very much alive
Zalm, what I get from the Economist is this:
"Mr Harper has coped with the political fallout from recession surprisingly well. Unemployment has risen steadily to 8.7%, but Canadians accept the government’s argument that the outside world was to blame. ..."
Fair comment I'd say. If Harper has engendered more support by splashing cash around I'd say that that's what the opposition was crying for back when the idea of a coalition was floated.
The Economist will have to update those poll numbers after the latest on CBC. 25.7 for Iggy (soon to go Pop?) and 39.7 for the Conservatives. That's a 14 point spread. Heck the NDP is only pulling 15.2 in total.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/10/07/ekos-poll-federal-conservative-liberal-ndp-green-bloc.html#socialcomments
Zalm, you say, "Especially when none of the newspapers looks at it." referring to what I said regarding extremist comments by socialists tarring Harper with that old 'hidden agenda' silliness. Well, the CBC story I've linked to just above already has over 300 on-line comments and it hasn't been 'up' on the web for even one hour yet. I'd have to say that probably means many more have already read it and more will read it, as well as some of the comments and they see those silly extreme comments too and as much as I accept that negative advertising does work, I also believe that negative comments (and advertising) backfire when they go over the top.
realisticman
2 years ago
correction
The CBC story had been up for about four hours, not the one I said. Nevertheless, check later today (Oct.8.09) and there will almost certainly be over a thousand comments. Some comments have had almost 500 'Agree' clicks too.
dave49
2 years ago
Be very afraid!
CBC news reported this morning that the latest Ekos poll found this little performance bumped up Stephen Harper's approval rating 7% overnight. Be Very Afraid!!!
People are being lulled into a false sense of security by this long string of minority Parliaments under Harper & Co. And again, like Dion, the subtle attack ads seem to have successfully planted lingering doubts about Ignatieff, which have solidified over time.
Come on Mr. Harper and Conservatives, you need some significant outburst or error to make people see your true colours.
Otherwise, heaven help us all if this crowd, led by Bushite Harper, gets a majority. You won't recognize this country in five years.
freebear
2 years ago
The sheep go one, the sheep go on!
Baaaaa! Baaaaa!
Until they reach the slaughterhouse!
zalm
2 years ago
Fair dinkum for fair comment
Zalm, what I get from the Economist is this:
"Mr Harper has coped with the political fallout from recession surprisingly well. Unemployment has risen steadily to 8.7%, but Canadians accept the government’s argument that the outside world was to blame. ..."
Fair comment I'd say.
What the Economist says is that Harper has done a good enough sales job on the media and the public to escape with his head. Remember how he had to be coaxed into stimulating the economy - something Krugman has been calling for ever since is first book on depression economics in 2000?
That's why we Canadians should be very, very afraid. Harper doesn't even read the work of Nobel Prize winners, and his syncophantic advisors are too ideologically taken with their own positions to advise him properly. If Harper had had a majority, how severe do you think the Canadian recession would now be? And how much larger the bonuses paid to Canadian bankers?
I repeat - the Economist called Harper everything but an idiot, and said only that he was a successful salesman. They do not claim he was a leader, and nor do I.
realisticman
2 years ago
My daily chuckle
The rest of world envies Canada and particularly Canadian banks. They also respect and praise the way this country has been run during the world economic slowdown. Today, unemployment in Canada went.....down. Even CBC reporters intoned their surprise.
Zalm says Harper had to coaxed into stimulating the economy and he doesn't think Harper is a leader. The EKOS poll tells us that Harper leads in approval ratings and the trajectory is up!
So some lefties say Harper released the stimulation funds too late. Other lefties say Harper released too many funds and is now putting us into debt.
I guess the left is fractured and does not speak with one voice. Good. As long as the message is garbled and only yells and yelps that woe is we, it will be properly ignored.
G West
2 years ago
Zalm
Zalm says Harper had to (be) coaxed into stimulating the economy and he doesn't think Harper is a leader.
And Zalm is absolutely right - anyone who doesn't remember the events and statements made during the election campaign of exactly one year ago is clearly suffering some serious memory loss...