Politicians and the Mirage of Popularity
They court your love, then seek to please unelected power brokers.
One cuddly cat, our Prime Minister.
I took a whirlwind trip to Toronto a week ago and, as always, airplane rides are for contemplation and I began to wonder a wonder. Why do we like some politicians and detest others?
And how come we tolerate a system where the leader's wishes trump parliamentary power?
Those who belong to one team or another tend to extend the hand of forgiveness to their leaders' peccadilloes, especially when they're in government. When a government goes badly wrong though, as Glen Clark's did, love can shift to hate overnight. The New Democrats are especially cruel to their fallen angels -- as Clark and Ujjal Dosanjh can no doubt attest.
Why, for example, do I dislike the prime minister, have a gut feeling of negativity towards Michael Ignatieff, think Jack what's-his-name from the NDP is okay, and rather like Gilles Duceppe of the Bloc?
And why should liking or disliking a leader matter?
Regarding Harper, maybe it's because he was always late for my talk show, even though he knew that a guestless host closely resembles a fish flopping around in the bottom of the boat.
I don't care for Ignatieff because he's shown a massive disinterest in British Columbia and that's fatal.
Jack what's-his-name is a decent sort of bloke and his only real failing is that he acts as if he were important.
I like Duceppe because he's given me a standing invitation to go with him to a Habs game next time I'm in Montreal. He does an excellent job of keeping the country together by reason of being an official separatist. As long as he and the Bloc exist, Quebeckers can vote BQ to protest, secure in the knowledge that the bribes will continue -- thus they can safely go about their business of being Canadians without loving Canada.
Who really runs the show
Our "fuehrer prinzip" reflects a system where all power reposes in the prime minister -- who acts, not on the advice of MP's, but unelected power brokers. We've come to look upon our elections as being "three leaders plus Duceppe," and vote accordingly. I know that point will bring out the cry "I vote for the person, not the party."
To which I must reply, "Obviously you have no idea how the system works and you should confine your political action to electing directors of your golf club where the candidate's opinion may have some bearing on how the place is run."
The national media understand this leader-worship and tell us what the leader will do, not what the party stands for. If you vote for the man or woman and not the party, your choice is about as important as your preference in ice cream flavours.
An example: Canada's best journalists -- an oxymoron if ever there was one -- make the leaders' debates look like a session of a youth parliament where only proper questions are asked and decorum outscores debate every time.
Think about it. When was the last time an issue from B.C. was put to the leaders during the debates? When was the question of Pacific Fisheries ever asked, or the question of forestry? The plain fact is that British Columbia is as important to our political leaders as the Scilly Isles are to London. Leaders don't give a damn about B.C. because they don't have to.
A land without issues?
When our party leaders debate, there are few philosophical divides over issues any more. For the most part, all leaders respond to issues with "me too, but I'd do it this way, not that way."
There isn't a large "C" conservative party in the land, except that hideous lot running things in Victoria. There certainly isn't a socialist party, and the Liberal philosophy has always been nice and simple -- do what it takes to get elected, then stay elected.
On the issue of national unity, nothing has changed in my lifetime. Quebec has fits of separatism like recurring bouts of poison ivy, but gets goodies like the child threatening to run away gets his popsicle. Every election we're told how important the "the West" is -- an indication that Central Canadians refuse to understand that there are three very distinct regions in Western Canada, which only unite when Ottawa power brokers piss them all off at once.
The winning formula never changes. Get your votes in Ontario and Quebec and you'll win. It would be different if we had some sort of proportional representation where MPs have some power. But that won't happen unless and until electoral reform becomes an issue of the people, not just university professors.
There's a curious dichotomy playing out in this country at present. We're all told that we don't want or need yet another election. Yet we're also told -- and believe -- that minority governments are terrible, so we must avoid all forms of proportional representation! Which is it to be, a five-year dictatorship by a leader who has parliament in his pocket or a prime minister whose control of the purse and policy depends upon parliamentary consent?
There are, of course, other options -- such as the American "checks and balances" system where the executive, elective and juridical branches check each other's power. It's the best system I know of -- on paper. The perfect becomes imperfect because U.S. politicians can't stanch the flow of money from interest groups seeking influence. But rather than that being the fault of the system, blame the lack of will to use that system appropriately. The U.S. system -- endorsed by no less an authority than constitutional expert Dr. Edward (Ted) McWhinney -- has no buzz in Canada where those who profit from the system have no incentive to change it. We prefer the Canadian way -- bitch over our beer, only rousing ourselves to get another.
Without a will to reform, there's no way we'll have it.
Addendum: notes on the fish farm debate
Two respondents to this recent column and this one asked why the use of SLICE in fish farms protected the pink salmon yet not the sockeye. The answer is simple. The SLICE was used by specific farms for specific runs for a short time span when the Broughton Archipelago pinks went by. Sockeye migrate at a different time from a different river, and as a result they had no such protection.
Second, my colleague Damien Gillis at Save Our Rivers, is just back from documenting environmental and socio-economic wreckage from the Chilean farmed fish collapse. He writes:
"And so it was to my horror that I read Mary Ellen Walling's [spokesperson for B.C. fish farmers] callous take on the Chilean crisis I had just witnessed. Walling [said]: 'Prices are up 10 to 15 per cent over the past six months because of the lack of product in the marketplace... It's good for the B.C. industry because we've got good, solid prices moving forward... There's a significant lack of Chilean product in the U.S. market. It's a great opportunity for B.C. salmon farmers.'"
That's rather like a spokesman for undertakers praising Hurricane Katrina for being good for business! Nice guys, these fish farmers! ![]()




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Grumpy
2 years ago
Could it be that......................
................Canada finally falls apart because the politicians had raped the land for all its worth, bankrupted the citizens, leaving many feeling that Canada is a 'Soviet' style autocracy with showcase elections every 3 or 4 years.
Many feel a complete disconnect with Ottawa and some would even like a military coup, to oust the corrupt lot and start over with something more democratic.
Canada, as it stands, can not survive much longer under its present system.
jwstewart
2 years ago
He's gonna eat that cat, right?
What else would explain the shit-eating grin...
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Alright! It's Caption Contest Time Again!
Back to being serious, Rafe, I still believe that we can "threaten" our MPs or MLAs with not voting for them and actively campaigning against them when they run afoul of what we want, and are indeed, completely supplicant to the wishes and whims of the "party leader".
It seems to me that in Parliamentary tradition, we have seen the ejection of Prime Ministers such as John Major when his usefulness was no longer demonstrable. If everyone who is p**sed at Gordon Campbell contacted their Liberal MLA (as I have) and indicated that Gordo gets replaced as of right now, or else, they will make it their personal business to work as hard as they can to make sure their incumbent Liberal MLA does not get re-elected, then I am sure we would see some changes.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Warning! The kitty-cat is not cute!
According to Liberal Party of Canada insiders, the kitty is "Just Visiting". It cannot be trusted.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Apparently, Harper calls his cat:
"Stockwell"
Fiat lux
2 years ago
The photo of Harper is the
The photo of Harper is the best example of why he can't be trusted: The man is so phony that the vibrations exuding from him should be enough to set off fire alarms.
The main problem, not only here in Canada, but all over the world, is the miseducating and brainwashing of students with the phony religion of neoclassical economics, who are then poisoning the minds of politicians and the public, leading us from one disaster into another. Harper is a good example.
Until this crime wave is stopped, all politicians will be cut the same braindead, phony cookie cutter, leading us under global corporate dictatorship and ultimately into self destruction.
Nobody ever dared to question the murder campaigns urged by priesthoods, as now nobody dares to question the fraudulent theories of this gang of the Priesthood of the Money God.
This is the most amazing part.
Ed Deak, Big Lake.
Chris Keam
2 years ago
What's in a name
Layton, Rafe. Jack Layton.
I think it's a bit odd he's the only politician you reference in this column that gets such short shrift.
Barryeng
2 years ago
Grumpy is right
"Canada, as it stands, cannot survive much longer under its present system."
Grumpy is right, the system is breaking down, and people are backing away from politics in droves. I don't blame them.
I voted for the STV for just that reason. I didn't think that STV was the answer, but unless we start the process of change, the status quo and those who benefit from it will not change.
realisticman
2 years ago
Pretty in blue
Cute article that reads just like a People mag fluff piece and the reviews are in the same leaky boat. What's next? Deciding on who to elect based on their hair colour? Harper's policies are clearly benefiting all Canadians and more people are recognizing this.
The old politics driven by ideology is over, like when Jack Layton declared in January that he was going to oppose the Budget even before he knew what it contained! Canadians have had enough of that confrontational game and will no longer accept the scare tactics based on generating fear, that the Liberals and the NDP always go on about.
G West
2 years ago
Umm
This: Harper's policies are clearly benefiting all Canadians and more people are recognizing this.
Seems to be the current form of the necessary and oft repeated lie.
As Goebbels put it:
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
He also said something else that Pee Wee and his allies in the PR department always take to heart:
“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”
A point which Rafe makes pointedly and well in his essay.
Truth has NOTHING to do with it.
Skywalker
2 years ago
Caption
"Introducing my new Minister of Finance".
Jerry Munro
2 years ago
The causal linchpin _1
"Grumpy is right, the system is breaking down, and people are backing away from politics in droves. I don't blame them.
I voted for the STV for essentially the same reason. I didn't think that STV was the answer, but unless we start the process of change, the status quo and those who benefit from it will not change." wrote barryeng.
I, of course, on this question, agree with Grumpy, and have been of the same view for a long time. In it's current phase, I have been of the mind that capitalism is on a slow dump into the tank since the Operation Solidarity struggle of the early 80s.The pace has quickened since the inevitable collapse of the so-called "free market" of course, and the rise of corporate welfarism to even new extremes, though it has always existed, and the growing direct linkage between the corporations and the capitalist state against "the people's" interest.
And though convinced of its ultimate futility, I must 'fess, a long time non-voter or participant in the fraud democratic system of capitalism, I voted for STV as well. I felt folks likely needed to experience it, in order to discover its inadequacy.
continued further on...
Jerry Munro
2 years ago
The causal linchpin_2
And realisticman is again, of course, full of the cock and bull above here, in his reasons for people not wanting another vote. The real reasoning of the masses is more, like myself I suspect, that they know as well as I do that there is no election within the current fraud democratic system, or party of capitalism (including the libs and ndp) that is committed to or capable of making any change to the declining circumstances of their lives anyway. So why waste the friggin' money? They are all in on it, in one way or another, and to one degree or another.
The real danger of the period is not the growing non-participation in the fraud electoral system of capitalism, but the rise of outright fascism as we see being displayed in the health care debate in the US, and in the kind of "national socialist" attempt of the state and corporations to save capitalism from itself by re-regulating it.
Though this fascist danger grows, and has its still more muted parallels up here around the Conservatives, it is too little too late for them, as the crisis now even extends to the capitalist system interface with the planet and all nature as well. And in order for that to change, the system will have to deal with its own endless growth in production and private wealth dynamic, which is to ask capitalism to commit hari-kari (sepku).
The only real potential for finally and entirely resolving the issues and problems of capitalism does not lie any longer in continued genuflection to its fraud Democratic/electoral system, or participation in it, but on the streets and in the workplaces of the economy. Until increasing emphasis and people presence is put there, on the streets, starting with progressive activists, there will be no real solution to the current time, and the cause linchpin in the chain of effects, which is capitalism itself.
It's this, or the only real final solution to its problems which capitalism has to offer, however inadequate itself and destined to fail in the end... fascism.
Jerry Munro
2 years ago
And then what?
And I understand that the question is then, "So what comes next? Where do we then go after capitalism?"
And we, and all society, do have to have that discussion and debate. First, however, there has to be a "critical mass" understanding evolve, that agrees, capitalism itself is the problem and needs to be finally dealt with. Without this change in thinking and loyalty occurring however, where one is going after that is but moot.
verso
2 years ago
...
That photo is just so over the top, it rivals the cowboy outfit picture.
Makes you wonder if his stylists are Liberal plants.
realisticman
2 years ago
Say Cheese.
Can't wait to see Iggy's Christmas Card photo.
realisticman
2 years ago
A word of Cauchon
Martin Cauchon knows that if Iggy goes pop the next leader of the Liberals will be a Francophone, since that is the hard and fast tradition.
He wants that job.
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
The Mirage of Liberty in the US ...
... has surely evaporated even before the failing sight of aging constitutional 'experts'.
The tyranny of the US Revolution (despite the soaring rhetoric of the Independence declaration) is built into its constitutional foundations - the very 'checks and balances' are designed to ensure its fossilization in the 18th century; an atomistic-Newtonian politic inapplicable for pluralistic evolutionary societies.
Congress, not by accident, lagged Parliament in every major social change of the last 250 years:
Parliament's extension of religious and ethno-linguistic rights of minorities (1763) became a catalyst for anti-Parliament Revolution in America.
Parliamentary 'judicial activists' (1772) provided the basis for the liberation of slaves; another catalyst for Revolution.
Parliament led the abolition of the slave trade(1807), then slavery.
Parliament led the suffrage of women (NZ:1893).
Parliament has proven less repressive, more adaptable and responsive to civil rights for women and minorities.
Canada fails Freedom when it follows Congress ; whether the KKK inspired bigotries against Natives (Indian acts), Asians (Exclusion Acts, Internments) or eugenics.
The anti-Canadians in Parliament act like 17th century Scottish Barons - ready to hand over their country to its larger southern neighbour for a few trade trinkets.
Rafe Mair should know better.
carfreed
2 years ago
sheep
Sheepish looking fellow in his blue sweater. He has demonstrated and permitted the worst bullying tactics I have ever witnessed in Canadian politics.But, he looks good on TV and in pictures. The sheep vote on the basis of appearance while clutching their pocketbooks and building gated communities.
I agree with your opinions about the leaders, altho' Jack, the kitchen table talker always comes off as a used car salesman to me.
The only remarkable thing I heard Ignatieff say was his question to the press at the end of summer:"Where have you been"
Why do humans try to make stars and idols out of politicians.
What real power does a Canadian PM have? Isn't he just a spokesperson for the Party?
MPs need to be individuals and represent their constituents, and not tow the party line.
Duceppe is a riot. Tells it like it is. And, follow Hansard, you will see that individual Bloc members have brought forth good bills that benefit all of Canada.
KWD
2 years ago
capitalists: the shadow government in a fascist society
If the prime minister acts, not on the advice of MP's, but unelected power brokers, then whether or not one votes for the person or the party is irrelevant. So why condemn those that do? Indeed, why devote time and energy picking apart the “big three”?
Is this Mair monologue simply another Seinfeldian episode about “nothing”?
The real question is, “Who are these “unelected power brokers” and why aren’t we directing our attention at exposing those that would like nothing more than to see another global descent in fascism?
Skywalker
2 years ago
Oops! Posted this on the wrong column.
Good article Rafe.
You got it right about all the players. It is probably a good thing that Canadians are less into celebrity worship than they are in the U.S.. Still it is troubling that there seem to be attempts to create the same mentality here. Turning a politician into a "celebrity" gets downright scary considering who these guys really are and what they think about their "fans".
I always wonder about people who can only relate to animals. Maybe he needs a friendly face to counterpoint his smirk. It is hard to pretend you are something warm and caring when all your actions show otherwise. Even the photos are about spin.
Jerry Munro
2 years ago
The Shadow Government of Un-elected Power Brokers...
"The real question is, “Who are these “unelected power brokers” and why aren’t we directing our attention at exposing those that would like nothing more than to see another global descent into fascism?" writes KWD.
Amen, brother. Shag the wasted time and energy focusing on all the tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum parties and personalities to capitalism..., focus on the capitalist shadow government, the unelected "power brokers" that represents the underlying reality of a "united front" of capitalist state and the corporate ruling class, which is the fundamental definition of fascism.
The minute you put your focus there, the sham of the so-called "democratic system" of capitalism leaps out at you and smacks you in the face, in its obviousness.
Time to stop being taken in by the bullshit, and get at what is really happening here, and what really needs to be done-, which is NOT another pointless election, when the game is rigged from the get go anyway.
Time to move beyond the bullshit "elecroral system" that is rigged to never really change the underlying economic and political status quo realities.
Des
2 years ago
Revolution
or Election? Are those our only alternatives? The mob that stormed the Bastille (and subsequently be-headed the aristocracy) or the great unwashed picking out their own method of execution but unwittingly handing the axe to the executioner? We're screwed either way, it seems.
As human beings, descended from simians, we have tried every governing system conceivable over the ages. But in essence it's the same old, same old. We give allegiance to the one among us who can smack down the other ones who dare to raise their heads above the crowd or point out the Emperor's lack of suitable attire.
But the vote is our only weapon against the tyrant's manipulations. And his maneuvers to get and keep his power over us have also evolved from the axe to the vote. Now it is to his advantage to discourage our thoughtful appraisal of his actions and make us believe we do not have a real choice. Not exercising our franchise is giving tacit approval to whatever action the tyrant chooses. Unless we are willing to revert to violence and select our leaders by personal combat, we have to vote, and vote, and vote again.
Skywalker
2 years ago
We forgot Des.
We forgot that democracy was based on one person one vote implying that every person was equal and at least had equal political clout. We then forgot that in a democracy we should not give political clout to corporations or base political power on who has the most gold. Hence our democracy has been stolen from us. We had faith that the Free Press would protect our democracy but it has instead sold our interests in democracy to the corporations.
Frank
2 years ago
realisticman
Methinks you had one too many hits from your bong before writing that funny piece above.
rockbysea
2 years ago
Bunch of treasonous puppets
I can't even bother to read this article let alone look at that photo of that phoney, bought and paid for loyal servant of the power elite.
Anyone who thinks that these creeps, which are dangled in front of our faces day and night by the controlled media, have any power and make their own decisions are either very deceived or part of the deception.
crankypants
2 years ago
Democracy?????
We will never have a true democracy until we change our political system. We must eradicate the political party and insist that all the candidates are independent. Let whoever wants to run for Prime Minister/Premier nationwide or provincewide and the one that gets the most votes gets the top job. Similarly each riding should have candidates who have no political ties and get elected on their merits rather than which gang they represent. Only then will there be incentive for the elected candidates to represent their constituents.
The beauty of this is that special interest groups will not be able to lobby a party to do their bidding. They may have the coin to buy a party's favours, but it's a different thing to to try and influence 86(provincially) or 309(federally) elected candidates.
This would pretty guarantee that the taxpayer would not be subjected to such travesties as the gun registry, fast ferries, sponsorship scandals etc. The power would finally be transferred back to the people.
The status quo just doesn't cut it anymore.
ME2
2 years ago
a time for despair?
You got it right, Skywalker, in noting that without a free press, we're hooped. The faint hope today is that the Net will correct that situaion, but I doubt it will.
Which leaves the last ditch hope, word-of-mouth.
Dr Alexander
2 years ago
Free Press?
Right now, we only have Asper-Press, where some people are more equal than others.
Jerry Munro
2 years ago
Democracy: The Watchword...
It's more than the issue of election or revolution, just likes it's about more than just changing the "political system".
A revolution need not necessarily be a violent event, but can occur as well by an electoral arrangement where the masses are sufficiently street engaged to keep it honest. (Which is not to exclude the possibility of "some" ruling class violence to maintain the old order, as in Iran and in Venezuela in modern times.).
Though whether a revolution is violent or peaceful does not only depend upon the intentions of the masses of the street engaged, but as much on the determination of the ruling order to maintain its grip at all costs. And that, there is little control over by the citizenry.
But as well, it is not only the political system that has to be opened up to wider class and citizen participation and influence, the transformation of society as its primary objective has to be about changing the power arrangement existing within capitalism at the economic base. The primary base of their power and influence arises out of their ownership and control of the commanding heights of the economy, and the money wealth that flows therefrom. It is this that needs to be broken, by democratizing ownership and management/ directorship control over especially the corporate economic base, and by increasing the influence and opportunity for workers even in smaller enterprises. The economic powerlessness of the masses must end, and the concentration of power into the hands of the corporate ruling class must end as well, for that "democratization" to be able to occur.
When this current "power system" within the economy is successfully broken and reconfigured to include the working population, a new political dynamic is likewise loosed that creates new opportunities for a newly configured political democracy as well.
(This was the great failure of the communist revolution in Russia, and China for examples: This failure to democratize the economic base of society and to build a new model political democracy. It but led to the creation of new elites and systems of "bosses", that but simply, in the end, re-created a kind of capitalism, top down directed by The State. It is this experience that needs not to be repeated. "Democracy", at all levels of society, needs to be the underpinning watch word.)
Without this breaking of ruling class power over the economy, and when there is a failure to "democratize" the economic plant of society, the way is left open for all roads to lead back to capitalism. And when "the people" are finally and actually in control of the economy and the influence that flows from that, the politicians such as may still be needed to some degree, I don't know, will behave pretty much as they do now, by listening and being directed by the new power within the economy, as they do now the "unelected" shadow cabinet power brokers of capitalism.
Skywalker
2 years ago
And those bosses, coyoteman, thrived on the cult of personality.
You would think the press would be very cynical about this sort of thing. I guess it is easier to cover the "celebrity" issues than dig into real issues of consequence.
Jerry Munro
2 years ago
Celebrity and the Cult of the Personality...
"I guess it is easier to cover the "celebrity" issues than dig into real issues of consequence." wrote Skywalker.
"The Media", within capitalism, are part of the corporate system, of course, and as a consequence are prevented or discourage from "digging into real issues of consequence", at least to deeply. They have an interest in the maintenance of a cult of the personality "celebrity culture", and its distracting and side tracking effect.
dorothy
2 years ago
We need to generate a culture..
of asking ourselves at the end of every day:
"And what have YOU done today to try and make it right?"
The free press nothing. If not us, who? If not now, when? there is no 'they'.
realisticman
2 years ago
Frank
It's not comedy back east, Frank.
He's really throwing Cauchon to the wind. And many Libs are peeved. Expect Cauchon to be there at the next Lib-fest.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2009/09/21/montreal-outremont-cp-liberal-nomination.html#socialcomments
Frank
2 years ago
realisticman
The Cauchon thing wasn't what I was referring to, the subject of hypothetical Liberal leadership bores me too much to bother reading about let alone commenting on. One can only wonder why you care.
I was referring to an earlier post as possibly being the result of a lackadaisical attitude towards drugs.
KWD
2 years ago
what makes it right?
"And what have YOU done today to try and make it right?"
Not an uncommon question, but it rarely gets an answer that most folks will accept. Mostly because what is “right” for one is not necessarily “right” for many.
There’s no doubt that the individual can change the thinking of many. History books give us ample proof; but we all know that doing what’s “right” hasn’t necessarily helped the greater good.
You can do the rallies, write letters, march in protests, vent on Tyee, vote and, generaly, do what is expected in a “democratic” society, but are you really willing to endure the pain of personal sacrifice?
It’s not as if we have to look too far to see where sacrifice can occur. For some, these individual changes may not seem relevant but cumulatively they can help us turn society’s views in a new direction.
So, what do we sacrifice? The easiest is not taking part in activities that support the power brokers: no more “whirl wind” trips across the country or internationaly, making do with fewer toys, chosing local products and generally consuming less are just a few examples where we can have huge impacts on those that control the purse strings.
The more difficult sacrifices … like accepting less on your “investments” and downsizing ego trips: like your house or your vehicle … are the ones that will have the greatest impact. Unfortunately, they are the ones that very few will embrace.
If you’re waitng for our politicians to make it better, you’ll be waiting a long time. They don’t want you to do what best for the “greater good”.
Des
2 years ago
Education
is the answer. And I don't mean a degree in "Economics." I mean the ability to add and to subtract, to read and to write. Cogently. As Orwell did in "Animal Farm." That's where we learn (erroneously) that "some are more equal than others." And can see the tragedy that ensues when such a dictum is accepted. When we are expected to praise our leaders for their offerings of "bread and circuses" to placate us, we deserve to receive nothing more. When we give a "thumbs down" to our fellow human beings who are enmeshed in tragedy, we essentially blame them for their misfortune.
But exercising our franchise puts the ultimate weapon against any kind of tyranny into our own hands. Even the Roman Emperor had to let the slave live when the crowd gave its "thumbs up."
realisticman
2 years ago
Frank
You may not be interested in the Liberal leadership thingy but this article and thread are primarily about federal politicians and the Liberals are the only alternative to the Conservatives in the foreseeable future and if Iggy cannot win and has to go the next Liberal leader will be a Francophone.
Chantal Hebert confirmed my suspcions today, with an interesting bombshell of a concept;
"...Ignatieff's uncertain election prospects and the Liberal practice of alternating between francophone and anglophone leaders have prospective successors jostling for position.
Coderre, a politician who wears his ambitions on his sleeve, is no stranger to such calculations. But Cauchon's renewed interest for active politics is also not divorced from the same considerations.
Both of them might be better advised to pay more attention to Justin Trudeau, a rare rising Liberal star ..."
Jerry Munro
2 years ago
Saucers of water...
"Both of them might be better advised to pay more attention to Justin Trudeau, a rare rising Liberal star ..." wrote realisticman.
Pierre Elliot was the best of a bad status quo lot, certainly over my lifetime memory. He was anti-working class, as evidenced by his "Mangez de la merde." and hoisted index finger comments, but he was the last real nationalist bourgeois politician this country had, and manoeuvred the country on a relatively independent course. The emphasis on "relatively", as in tepid piss.
In these times, however, the Trudeau card, though the sentiment may actually prove to be powerful in the current weak to traitorous lot of status quo politicians, will prove relatively ineffectual, I suspect. Given the degree the country is actually already effectively overwhelmed by the US Empire, with the collaboration of our own US Empire Loyalists of all parties . And whether that Trudeau card can be played twice, in these times and in one lifetime, I have serious doubts. Though one does have to remember, I guess, that almost half the Canadian electorate, including myself, doesn't even vote in the Devil and deep blue sea electoral system of Canadian capitalism.
And in these times, whatever Con, Lib or NDPer it might be, Coderre, Cauchon, even sweet Justin, or even the "radical" Liberal Layton, might rise to the top of the fraud "democratic" system, their practical effect on the national "real politik" will have about the depth of a saucer of water.
(Though I must admit, that I have been aware for awhile of the movement forward of Justin by the Liberal Party apparatus. In the end, it may be like what was my attitude toward STV: It may just have to be voted in for folks to discover its total inadequacy. So that they can move on.Sentimentality can be a powerful thing.)
realisticman
2 years ago
Err, coyote
""Both of them might be better advised to pay more attention to Justin Trudeau, a rare rising Liberal star ..." wrote realisticman."
Excuse me, that's QUOTED realisticman who was quoting, as explained, Chantal Hebert.
I didn't write it.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/699521
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
realistically, replacing Mr 'Minority' Harper ...
... will prove much more problematic, as the Con Party navigates the vapid shallows of its talent pool.
"A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy."
Disraeli [ Hansard, 1845 ]
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
... Harper's replacements :
...
http://www.macleans.ca/canada/opinions/article.jsp?content=20080528_76680_76680
realisticman
2 years ago
Oilberta
That year-and-a-half old story is somewhat moot now, with these new numbers today:
Ekos: Con 37% Lib 29.9% Ndp 13.8% Grn 10.2% Bq 9.1% ...
realisticman
2 years ago
and these from Nanos, today
"Harper’s lead on other federal leaders was greatest on management of the economy (41% vs. 27% for Michael Ignatieff) and taxes (40% vs. 24% for Ignatieff)"
dorothy
2 years ago
Easiest, eh?
"So, what do we sacrifice? The easiest is not taking part in activities that support the power brokers..."
"The more difficult sacrifices … like accepting less on your “investments” and downsizing ego trips.."
You get the gist of it. Reuse, reduce, recycle. And be prepared for the social fallout, when you reveal that you mainly clothe yourself out of thrift shops, and your kids never had a new pair of skis, they were all from cheapskates and such places, with your own ingenious modifications.
You can just hear the little minds grinding:The UNDERWEAR, too? And you will be treated as some kind of fraud, making yourself look richer than you are, and 'not paying full price' like decent people.
Yes, it is indeed the straight and narrow, and few are the ones who follow it. However, on the other side of that looking glass it rates as insanity to pay 'full price' for anything if you can help it. My family and I have made it a fine science to pinch every penny till it screams, but it is not for everyone, it takes resourcefulness and oftentimes guts. And I make an exception of the stuff on Farmer's Market, never haggle there. These are honest folks (I think), and so deserve to be promoted.
I have now got a reputation where I can bring really nice stuff to potlucks, rip the label off and carry it all home to the family, since everyone in the office remains convinced that it is out-of-date. Nary a one touches it.
EGO-TRIPS???!!!
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
realistically, a year and a half ...
... is a loooong time to wait for someone, anyone, to demonstrate competence.
But not long enough to keep speculating:
http://tinyurl.com/rplceHarper
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Replacing Harper
choices, choices ...
Finance Flaherty ; ... HA !
Foreign Min Cannon ; as in loose
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/681193
http://www.embassymag.ca/page/view/child_soldier-9-2-2009
National Defense McKay ;
http://tinyurl.com/PeaceKeep
Industry in-Clement ;
http://tinyurl.com/SteelWork
Citizenship Kenney
http://tinyurl.com/KhadrKenney
uummm :
... Ms Raitt-files, listeriosis Ritz, angry Baird ...
doggone
2 years ago
ick
I do not want to step in this crap either.
Just need to get rid of the parasites.
Spent the last week watching Humpback whales attempting to dislodge parasites on(or off) their fins.
So I watched how the big male Humpie did it: he floats on his back and flaps his flippers - every now and then he comes up for air and checks if the irritation is gone - 'Course it is not - as in our case here.
The people who hire themselves out to "thinktank" expertise need to give their head a shake.You look at the world through a precise lens and it will deliver the exact symptoms you expect.Then somebody pays you for that garbage analysis?
Betelgeuse
2 years ago
Good commentary all
As long as our electoral system is privately funded it will be corrupt. I would like to see a taxpayer funded elections and a hefty fine for not voting. I for one do always vote but never vote for the ruling corporate sycophants. I do vote NDP or Green but it should be coupled with getting involved in the parties platform decisions and yes acting personally to avoid undermine and subvert rapacious corporate behavior in my and my families lives. Not easy but I do what I can. Other wise it is revolution time and the power structure now just as all through history will act with any means necessary to protect their position of wealth and power. So if it is revolution you aspire to prepare for it because as you become more effective they will become more ruthless. People do not change unless they are forced and all through history every period of great change was also a period of great upheaval and violence.
Artemis
2 years ago
mimic the US stalemate?
There's one major problem with the US system of checks and balances and that is that it's almost impossible to change anything because any change at one level is inevitably checked or balanced by another except on very rare occasions. And try deciding who to vote for for sheriff or district attorney or dogcatcher in the local election lotteries. In spite of the 20 somethings I encountered at the last federal election who were surprised that they couldn't find the name of the party leaders on the ballot, parliamentary democracy has a lot to recommend it. Unfortunately, people who don't vote still feel they have the right to complain about what the government is doing.