Dumb and Dumber

Dobbin is off on another argument based on Anti-Americanism. Look, sometimes war is necessary to meet aggression. Would Dobbin rather have the Iraqis stay in Kuwait? Dobbin foolishly thinks war will end by just negotiation, holding hands and singing 'kumbaya'.

The reality is that heads of state have to make tough decisions to protect the state. And these decisions have o be above common morality.

Bobby

First off you should check some history as to why exactly Iraqi`s were in Kuwait. You think the heads of state shouldn`t practice common morality ? I`m guessing thinking like that is the reason the RCMP can shoot people in the back of the head or tazer an innocent man to death with impunity.Maybe if just if their was a little more common morality in the people in the position of power there would be no shortage of food or health care in this world. There never seems to be too much money for better ways to kill us.

A lot of German and Japanese

A lot of German and Japanese generals have been executed for far less, many even for crimes they've never heard about, but were committed under their overall command.

Then we can read in their biographies on the so called "winning sides", proudly declaring: "orders were given that no prisoners are to be taken".

As a WW2 vet., I can tolerate all other ranks, but hate the guts of all lieutenants and generals and could care less what happens to them.

All armies, regardless of nationality, are built on and survive on secrecy, deceit, lies and legalized murder. The soldiers lie to the NCOs, the NCOs lie to the officers, the officers lie to the generals and the generals lie to the politicians and the public. This string of lies is called "intelligence" and "national defence"......

....while the politicians are selling off the country for peanuts, to the highest bidders of directorships.

Ed Deak.

Dobbin is right.

Just like Henry Kissinger, Powell should stay home. There is nothing the war mongers need to tell us about leadership in the 21st century. They forfeited that right and Powell did when he started parroting the Bush claim of WMD's.

It didn't say what enlightened group of Vancouverites had invited him here.

C'mon in Colin!

How about we DO waive him into Canada.
Then make a citizens arrest, and hold him as a war crimes suspect, until the Hague draws up a case against him, and is ready to have us hand him over to the International Court!

That'll teach 'im.

I just wish

there was a way to prevent these war criminals from giving speeches and picking up glorious fees. The lecture circuit is part of the pay-off. What Mr. Dobbin doesn't tell us is who is picking up the tab for Powell the Pusillanimous to tell us all about "Leadership". Ultimately,it is taxpayers, when taxfree money is funneled to these bozos.

as mentioned above Powell

as mentioned above Powell mislead the UN. some folks said he didn't know. If he didn't how did he have the job? He is doing the circuit making money and ciizens of his counntry are still dying for the errors made by him and his ex boss Bush

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This has been advertised for at least a couple months, I think they're having trouble selling tickets.

A war criminal indeed

He's directly repsonsible for millions of Iraqi's death and displacement.

Write to the irresponsible organizer (DSJ Communications) and sponsors (Vancouver Sun and CKNW) and explain to them that a person who has committed various crimes against humanity is not welcome to this town.

It's reported that only 8 tickets

have been sold.

It's not confirmed but seems very reasonable to me. After all, who in the right mind will seek leadership advices from a known war criminal?

He blatently lied to the world community and caused the sufferings of millions!

Shame on DSJ Communications for cozing up to this despicable man.

Quote:We shouldn't let him

Shades of two Vermont towns:

the items sought to have police arrest Bush and Cheney if they ever visit Brattleboro or nearby Marlboro or to extradite them for prosecution elsewhere - if they’re not impeached first.

Sounds similar to some of the Allies' conduct in Europe during WW2.

Send this to Immigration at the Airport and CBSA

This event is a production of 3-- 21 and 22 year old students from U Vic. They are spending a bundle on advertising. They may be naive and not have a clue of Powell's history.
Suggest you send this article to John Cummins, MP, Delta/Richmond, Canada Border Services at Peace Arch and Canada Immigration at the YVR. And the RCMP???
No idea of whom is providing the financial backing for these kids--perhaps there's another story there. Cheers.

Towing the line

Its just common place,like bushies ex-press secretary who has just written a book claiming this latest IRAQ war was based on fabrication (duh,really,what a shock,who knew)

There are a lot of similarities with the BUSH bunch with our own BC LIBERALS.

I am sick and tired of people collecting paychecks, then after the facts come out these followers claim we were only towing the line.
Everyone knows BUSHIES war has to do with oil

The similarity with BC LIBERALS is--Selling rivers,privitizing BCs assets,destroying wild salmon,removing enviromental protections,corruption,gag laws,election gordy-mandering,the buying of justice in BC(or should I say,paying to make sure there is no justice in BC)

These line towers will have to look at their grandchildren in the eye and say,I could of spoke up,I could of walked away,I could of did my part for humanity but I wanted my PAYCHECK.

"There is none so blind as those who refuse to see"

Josh71 2hrs ago: “Write to

Josh71 2hrs ago:
“Write to the irresponsible organizer (DSJ Communications) and sponsors (Vancouver Sun and CKNW) and explain to them that a person who has committed various crimes against humanity is not welcome to this town”.
Carl Rove was invited here with the blessings and $ from Fraser Institute. No surprise there! Does any of OUR taxpayer money go to FI and if so Why?
I was there out side when C Rove did his BS speech and I was ashamed at the very small turn out at the protest as there were more cops than protesters, shame on us.
This time we have got to show up en-mass to show OUR total disgust at allowing these War Criminals into OUR CANADA!
We, Us are already guilty of being complacent in allowing these grievous Acts of torture on another of OUR species whether innocent or guilty. The SPP already says WE WILL BE NEXT for joining blogs like this to voice OUR Democratic Right to Freedom of Speech! Do WE still have time?

1. A nation can survive its

1. A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear: Cicero Marcus Tullius

John Bolton was nearly nabbed!

A lot of people in Britain were incensed earlier this month, when John Bolton, another of Bush's Iraq war architects, was scheduled to attend the annual Hay Literary Festival.

Journalist George Monbiot proposed making a citizens arrest on Bolton for war crimes, and ended up making an effort to carry out the arrest himself.

More a statement, in Monbiot's case, than a serious attempt at apprehending Powell (Monbiot's plan was foiled by security), still, such actions make a useful statement, and deservedly embarrass the wicked receiving undeserved accolades and deference at prestigious events!
http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,2284450,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/03/usforeignpolicy.usa

Typo

Oops...This line from my prior post:
"More a statement, in Monbiot's case, than a serious attempt at apprehending Powell...",
should read "BOLTON", not "Powell".

Really Now

My sense on General Colin Powell is that he was lead down the garden path by the Cheney operatives. Powell clearly is a moderate and subsequently resigned as Secretary of State. Defence Secretary Rumsfeld along with Cheney are the ones to hang.

Powell I think was disgusted with the whole issue. President George Bush I think was/is a puppet of Cheney and company.

We should hear from Powell, no doubt he is intellegent and that is why he left the Bush Administration.

sdgreen

You may be right but does that show leadership and should we be listening to him because of it? I think not. Stay home Colin!

On Quislings

Thanks for that excellent quote, BC Dude. Things haven't changed much in 2,000 years, eh?

However, public acceptance of such practice has without notice or much examination, been achieved by the Neocons as they sell us the "Market" philosophy promoted by Friedman and the Chigago boys, via "globalisation".

No longer is the traditional obligation of the negotiator in international affairs primarily to his/her country. Today the obligation is entirely to the "shareholder", unless the negotiations are too public to hide their intent - though it seems they are increasingly sucessful even in openly brazening this out these days.

In the days of my youth, these insidious workings against the Canadian citizen's national interests would have been identified as such, and the perpetrators correctly branded as Quislings and economic Fifth Columnists.

Perhaps because of the neutered NDP, nobody listens to Maude Barlow and the Council of Canadians these days, and with Tommy Douglas gone, even the NDP has long forgotten his story about us selling out the family farm and becoming sharecroppers on it.

OH well.

And BTW, it's "toeing the line" not "towing" it. :-)