Opinion

Surely Harper Doesn't Want More Poor People. Or Does He?

'Economic freedom' is right’s buzz phrase for why steep inequality is no problem.

By Donald Gutstein, 11 Jan 2012, TheTyee.ca

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Is Stephen Harper's goal for Canada the United States of today?

That would mean a nation in which somewhere between a half and a third of its citizens have fallen into poverty or are hovering just above, in low income. This according to latest data released by the U.S. Census Bureau. Meanwhile, 400 Americans are worth more than $1 billion.

And the divide will likely worsen, as Congress and Republican-controlled state legislatures continue slashing programs and benefits, firing workers, and further weakening health, safety and environmental protections to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, if that is even possible.

But rather than face the grim reality of a collapsing American society, conservatives question whether people classified as poor by the Census Bureau are really that poor. Are they actually suffering material hardship? asks Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation based in Washington, D.C. Social safety-net programs have gone too far, Rector claims, citing poor people who live in decent-size homes, drive cars and own wide-screen TVs. Why should they get help from taxpayers?

This analysis comes from an organization in which 72 executives and staff members each earned over $100,000 in 2009, with president Ed Feulner taking home $921,000 and executive vice-president Phillip Truluck $557,000.

Rector is considered the "intellectual godfather of welfare reform" for his role in crafting the 1996 federal welfare legislation which ended "welfare as we know it" -- signed by Bill Clinton -- and created a permanent underclass of Americans available for low-paid, dirty work.

While income for the rich was soaring, Rector ensured that income for the poor would be depressed even further.

Having a large pool of low-income workers is exactly what Heritage Foundation folk want. It's what makes the market work, they say.

People are poor because they deserve to be poor. Otherwise they'd be rich like us.

Fraser Institute's cry for 'economic freedom'

Here in Canada, the Fraser Institute and its radical conservative allies sing from the same songbook. We need vast disparities in wealth and income so the market can work better. Social programs that lessen inequality just get in the market's way.

As the Fraser Institute's Niels Veldhuis observed, "taking money from successful Canadians and redistributing it to lower income Canadians will only decrease the incentives for lower income Canadians to become successful."

Veldhuis himself must be counted as a successful Canadian -- and why should he deprive the poor of their opportunity to become successful like him? But with a 2010 paycheque of $168,836, Veldhuis still has a ways to go before he's really successful and safely ensconced within the one per cent.

(Statistics Canada doesn't publish data on the income necessary to be included in the top one per cent, but this figure has been estimated at just over $200,000 for 2009.)

Veldhuis and his colleagues have fought mightily to forestall efforts to raise the living standards of the less well off, most notably the minimum wage, the living wage, and unionization. These are policies which, according the institute, impede economic freedom, the right of individuals to choose for themselves and to engage in voluntary transactions.

Minimum wage laws and the right to be represented by a union infringe on the economic freedom of employers and employees, they say. Having a legislated minimum wage must inhibit a prospective employee's freedom to choose an even lower wage.

If a country has minimum wage laws and a high degree of unionization, it's not going to do well on the Fraser Institute's Index of Economic Freedom.

Be more like Hong Kong?

Other indicators the institute says increase economic freedom are deregulation, unfettered free trade, low taxes, privatization, and minimal government spending -- the usual suspects.

As expected, Hong Kong, with the highest level of poverty in Asia and the most billionaires per capita in the world, leads the parade of the economically free. Canada ranks sixth, up from seventh in 2010.

Harper has been a staunch advocate of neoliberalism and economic freedom since he was a graduate student at the University of Calgary in the 1980s.

The importance of the economic freedom project to the Harper government was revealed when the Fraser Institute released its 2010 list. This occurred at a Fraser Institute lunch-hour policy briefing at Ottawa's Rideau Club with guest speaker Peter Van Loan, Harper's then minister of international trade, who was busy working on the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement with the European Union.

Van Loan applauded his government's "commitment to free trade, open investment rules and lower taxes." Free trade is key to economic recovery, he declared. "In Canada, prosperity and quality of life are dependent on trade with the world."

He did not mention that Canada's income gap is widening faster than in the United States.

But he reminded his audience of the "fierce debates about North American free trade and the voices from the fringe telling us that it would somehow erode our sovereignty." Van Loan declared that "we need to continue building a broad base of support for the importance of a competitive, globally engaged Canadian economy of the future." He ended with an invitation: "So let's work together to continue convincing Canadians... of the importance of economic freedom."

And as Canada's standing on the economic freedom index rises, so do the number of billionaires and the ranks of the poor and struggling.  [Tyee]

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  • Worrywart

    19 weeks ago

    Oil Subsidies

    Why do the Fraser Institute kooks not take on the $1B in oil industry subsidies? In addition, if the love of the Fraser Institutes life (NAFTA)is such an economic Godsend, why is Caterpillar dropping wages 50% and Canadian manufacturing going the way of the Dodo bird?
    NAFTA is a disaster!

  • Fiat lux

    19 weeks ago

    I don't think Harper has the

    I don't think Harper has the brains to realize what he's doing, as most of the "faithful" either in religions, or ideologies in history always thought they have been blessed and ordered by the gods for their criminal actions.

    We now have a trial going, where some people are accused of murdering their daughters, as a form of "honour killing", going on all over in some societies, by the faithful.

    Harper and his followers have the same mindset, based on "faith that conquers all", led by their low intelligence and brainwashed by miseducation.

    The question is whether this is bad, or good for the country and all over the world ?

    On the long run it could be good, because sooner or later people must wake up and get rid of oppressors, as it has happened thousands of times in history.

    I don't think Harper will complete his full turn in office, because he's going crazier by the minute and sooner or later people will have enough of his madness.

    I don't believe in violence and the only thing I wish for him is a string of directorships to disappear to, so we won't have to see his predator face in the news, ever again.

    In any case, this brings us back to my repeated complaint, that there's no point in blaming the politicians, when the universities are where the legalization of their criminal actions originate, just as the largest destruction and mass murder schemes in history originated with religions.

    Ed Deak.

  • lindi6676

    19 weeks ago

    Fiat Lux

    Its great that you continue to send the same message and one can only remain hopeful they receive the message and awaken. With so many people coming from their low energies it is helping to breakdown all systems, which we know needs to happen. Most cannot imagine what we could be without these systems, but I think we are not to know and especially not to fear the unknown and just allow for new things to create. The evolution of a new way of being!

  • Grania

    19 weeks ago

    Of course

    This is why this government needs more jails and more cooperative security with the US...to be able to arrest and jail anyone who wants to fight back....Rome all over again....

  • Fiat lux

    19 weeks ago

    Lindi.....It is painfully

    Lindi.....It is painfully obvious that the present economic system, originating from universities, is a major failure and tragedy, destroying the Earth and humanity with a crazy, faith based theory of imaginary monetary values.

    What I'm advocating has nothing to do with any ideology, but the return to locally based, physically efficient economic systems that have existed for thousands of years.

    People using their inborn talents to make things in energy efficient ways, in overlapping circles, using genuine trade for the exchange of resources and products.

    Many of us, older people, have grown up in such systems, and in our case we have reached the highest degree of self sufficiency, doing very well on a pension income of about $25,000/yr, which is way below the poverty level, yet giving us a very comfortable life.

    E.g. You can make $15. worth of bread with about 15 mins of work, but how many people can do it? It also adds nothing to the stupid GDP, and so economists are against it.

    The list of potentials is endless, but burned out of people by fools and crooks, with false beliefs and theories, to enrich a few by making the majority slaves.

    Wealth can not be created, only taken......

    Ed Deak.

  • Kreditanstalt

    19 weeks ago

    Writer is stuck in the 1960s or 1970s...

    Inequality is, I'm afraid, part of the Natural Order of Things.

    Man is born into a state of nature in which equality of result is not possible. People able to make finer distinctions than others as to the course of action to take survive. Others fall by the wayside. Those with more savvy, more ruthlessness, more ingenuity or more connections get ahead, while passivity, naivete and sloth have historically been punished. No one can deny this.

    The mere existence of the government gun - redistribution of earnings through force - can only mask this temporarily. Human nature - looking out for number one - will not be erased so simply. Only capitalism - LESS regulation, more personal responsibility and caveat emptor - can provide REAL economic growth, jobs and, in the end, an increase in societal wealth.

    Stealing the productivity and savings of the successful and handing it over to the failed is only possible because of the irrational and overriding quest for some sort of impossible collectivist nirvana in which everyone is "equal" and can consume equally while riding magical pixie-horses.

    It goes against human nature: all this attempting to legislate equality is doing is driving away the few remaining risk takers, savers and investors.

    So please QUIT trying to change human nature. Can't be done.

    Harper? You can keep him: despicable NDP-lite. On this key question, there is no basic difference between any of these Parties...

  • lindi6676

    19 weeks ago

    Fiat Lux ...It is painfull

    I totally agree with the above, as I am one of those people who makes my own breads and many other things and seek out local products that are healthier for me and the environment. For me this is just one step of moving out of the system and creating a better way of life for self. But for me I also believe its about letting go of ego and allowing my internal wisdom navigate all aspects of my life and evolve even higher from doing so. Yes this is my belief and what I believe only matters to me and what others think of my comments does not matter. I totally understand each individual will find his and her truth and as we evolve will learn not to push it on others, as we all know this never works, it only backfires. I think sharing is wonderful but ultimately people have to figure it out on their own.
    We live in interesting times and I feel so much change is in the works and I actually feel excited about it and as you perfectly stated it "list of potential is endless."

  • mary jane

    19 weeks ago

    we need

    We will be fighting harpo There was a vote to get rid of child poverty some time ago Harpo voted no keep hungry kids Don't feed them so they won't grow up to fill his new prisons. I believe a large part of what causes crime is a desire to have good life. Many people enjoy what others have and are able to have by the normal method - working There are not enough good jobs - jobs that pay enough to provide a level of comfort that removes the desire to find ways to get this with what ever it takes to get $$
    Harpo + gordo has shared udeas create povertry and hardship -- If you face going hungry and loosing your basics you will work for much less right Greedy, emotionally undeveloped or uneducated people what poverty as a method of controlling the masses

  • Fiat lux

    19 weeks ago

    Mary...According to Kredit,

    Mary...According to Kredit, above, the parents of those hungry children failed, so they deserve to starve.

    At least half million here and more millions in the USA and Mexico have lost their jobs and businesses because of the NAFTA, so they're failures, because they should have "taken risks", "invested" and become "successes".

    As the then Exec. VP, Edward Neufeld of the Royal Bank said it in a speech in Singapore on Oct18,'91: " It is in the national interest and makes sense for Canadian manufacturers to move to Mexico and cheap labour to remain competitive or perish, and bring back the profits to repay investors"

    So they moved to their commie brothers in China, causing unemployment poverty in te 3 countries, destroyed tens of thousands of businesses, wiped out the middle class in Mexico, causing tens of thousands of casualties in the drug wars, the only thing left to them, so that the "risk takers can be successful"

    By the same token, why shouldn't we wipe out traffic laws and the police off our roads and let the "successful" rule the roads, by pushing off and wrecking the "failures", who don't deserve to exist.

    The question is: What is the definition of "failures"? Those who don't play the stockmarkets, but prefer to work for the living ?

    Ed Deak.

  • anarcho

    19 weeks ago

    Kredit is stuck in the 1890s

    Kredit, your ideology is Social Darwinism and was the rationalization used by the predators of the day for stealing the wealth of society and grinding the workers into the dirt. But the heyday of your ideology was about 120 years ago and nobody but far right ideologues believes in it.

  • bfearn

    19 weeks ago

    Kreditanstalt, you have swallowed the cool-aid.

    When Captain Cook ran aground on the Great Barrier Reef he was forced to run his ship up on the beach to keep it from sinking. During the weeks that the repairs required he observed, and recorded in his log, that the aboriginal people seemed happy, had all they needed because they shared everything and that this equality made their survival possible in a meager land.

    When he return to England and his log was published all references to equality were removed. Couldn't have the masses getting any funny ideas in one of the most inequitable societies ever created.

    And so it is today, ill informed people think that inequality is just the way it is and that in Canada this is as good as it gets so get used to it. Nothing could be further from the truth!

  • Kreditanstalt

    19 weeks ago

    Inequality is not a good

    Inequality is not a good thing; I'm just stating the facts.

    We are all born into a world where the fittest survive best and having government "redistribute" the earnings of some won't change that.

  • Frank

    19 weeks ago

    Kreditanstalt

    Kreditanstalt : "It goes against human nature"

    Actually human nature tends toward compassion and sharing. Capitalism warps human nature by allowing greed to dominate without the problems that would accompany that greed if we lived in a state of nature.

    If you had one tribesman who ate like a king while the others starved you would quickly see that tribe kill the one and feed the many.

    Things like police keep us from living in a state of nature. And the 1% are big supporters of police and army.

  • Kreditanstalt

    19 weeks ago

    @Frank

    "If you had one tribesman who ate like a king while the others starved you would quickly see that tribe kill the one and feed the many."

    We do that already. All political parties do it, and they are all essentially the same.

    There are two kinds of people in the country: those few (15%?) who create wealth, earn profits, provide jobs & products and save & invest responsibly...and the vast majority who spend their income on consumables, accumulate debt. Many, many people depend largely on government income, government jobs, jobs with governent contractors or entitlement payments.

    The latter group outvotes the former, which is why social program spending never slows, inflation continues, government "services" expand, taxes rise endlessly and there is no incentive to stand on one's own feet financially...

    Discouraging the producers of wealth and earners of profits by seizing their assets and redistributing them to everyone else won't create more wealth, will it?

    If you are a saver, investor, speculator or entrepreneur with a positive net worth and willing to risk capital to open a job-creating business, you are represented in government by NO ONE.

    The takers vastly outnumber the providers and no political party - even the NDP, let alone the Harperite neocons - will change that.

    Simple numbers. Coupled with economic envy and "democracy".

  • anarcho

    19 weeks ago

    Kredit, virtually all of your

    Kredit, virtually all of your so-called entrepreneurs depend upon government in one way or the other - corporate law, patents, banking laws, subsidies (both hidden and above board) regulations that crush the small business and aide the corporations etc All capitalism is ultimately state capitalism!

  • Frank

    19 weeks ago

    Kreditanstalt

    Kreditanstalt : "We do that already. All political parties do it, and they are all essentially the same."

    Unfortunately not true. The wealthy are not being killed and their wealth is not being divided among the many.

    Instead the wealthy are staying alive and actually increasing their wealth and the level of inequality.

    If you were right and all politicians were advocating the killing of the rich inequality would be going down, not up.

    Your 15% tend to be people who can't take care of themselves. They don't kill and gather their own food, they don't generate their own power, they don't build their own homes, they don't indulge in do-it-yourself education or medicare.

    Instead they are parasites living off your other 85% that do the work and create the wealth. People trading paper don't generate any wealth.

    We have social programs because without it the rich would be liquidated. However, they'd prefer those social programs to be as threadbare as possible so they have to educate a coterie of useful idiots to defend their wealth (no offence).

    The workers of North America have not seen an increase in their wages for 30 years, all the new wealth being generated by their labour is not being shared, its being skimmed off the top by the rich, those who don't work.

  • Frank

    19 weeks ago

    I should add

    I'd love to see a few years of society immersed in a "state of nature". It would be very revealing for your top 15% as they tried to trade paper money for food and shelter and protection.

    Bring it on.

  • Kreditanstalt

    19 weeks ago

    anarcho, you've got it backwards...

    So the governments are on the people's side? And the evil ones are the bigggest corporations?

    Problem is, we can always refuse to do business with corporations. Not so easy with governments and their cops, courts, laws, regulations, taxes and guns!

    Who's right? And is it important anyway? All I know is that I sure as hell would never consider trying to start a small business in Canada...

  • Frank

    19 weeks ago

    Sure sure

    Kreditanstalt : "Problem is, we can always refuse to do business with corporations"

    You can also refuse to vote for a particular political party. Makes the same amount of difference.

  • Dan the socialist

    19 weeks ago

    So called conservatives like

    So called conservatives like the Harpercons™ and Republicans love low wages and no social safety nets. They are not real conservatives anyway. The Harpercons™ are really just the extreme right Reform Party and the Republicans are just as far right. The federal Libs are really the 'new PC' Party and the Democrats in the US are a conservative Party albeit not as far right like the GOP but still for the rich and are just as much a war monger party. The Harpercons™ and GOP just care about the rich and corporations, hate unions, hate poor people and all social programmes and they do their best to destroy them.

  • Feverish

    19 weeks ago

    Reality comes in many degrees

    There are many valid points being made by the commentators here. One's perceptions are essentially one's reality and it is only through personal growth and experience - or evolution - that change can occur in the way we perceive the world.

    A good life is one that fulfills certain needs and for most people those needs (desires in many cases) can be directed by advertisers and others who have a financial stake. It is very easy for humans to be coerced in the name of comfort to just say "YES!" to all that we desire. The same psychology is at play when deniers give us a kernel of doubt to sway our ethical decision-making ability.

    We all have choice in absolutely every decision we make. Most, it seems, are choosing the super-comfort of material excess at the expense of future generations. I'll bet that most of us can justify those decisions, at least to ourselves... and really, that's all it takes to keep the cycle going.

    But with each informed choice we make, we change our reality incrementally. We can choose big boxes and complain about loss of well paid jobs and reduction in quality or we can support our friends & neighbours and develop a viable local economy that will result in a stronger sense/strength of community. The choice is always ours, but it requires more effort and commitment. As with most things, the return is based on the perceived value.

  • Fiat lux

    19 weeks ago

    Wealth is the temporary

    Wealth is the temporary control of energy.

    Wealth can not be created, only taken from others, the environment and future generations.

    Not my invention, but the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics.

    Our present ecological disasters, climate change, cancer and other epidemics that didn't exist before, are once again, caused by ignoring Newton's laws on Speed and Reaction.

    Religions and ideologies have been trying to ignore physical laws since the beginning and always failed, as they are failing now.

    Capitalism is finished and on its way to follow its idiot twin, communism, into the grave. They wave different flags and cite different ideologies, but are run by the same gang of collectivizing crooks, as shown in China. The richest people in Russia are now the former communist cadre.

    And this is not a theory, but based on lifelong personal experience and research under all of them.

    Ed Deak.

  • riseupniagara

    19 weeks ago

    Inequality doesn't work; the super-wealthy do not even work

    I have yet to see proof that the super wealthy do any work at all, to see if they are capable of actually doing a day's real work. The truth is they inherited most of their wealth or gambled it on the stock market. Who cares? There are so many lazy rich that have never seen a day's work that it's not even funny. Somebody made a comment about high taxes as well. Reality check: Taxes for the wealthy have significantly decreased in the past 20 years and as a percentage of their total income, they pay less than the average working person.

  • paisley

    19 weeks ago

    Kreditanstalt....Yikes.

    I don’t think I have ever read a post with that amount of irrational thought on the Tyee before.
    Advocating anarchy with rules. I have read some of your comments on previous topics but your first of the thread takes the cake. It would be a worthless exercise to rebut any of your points and I for one will be skipping on by in the future.

  • the real ODB

    19 weeks ago

    definition

    Fraser Institute: Neoliberalism for "confederacy of dunces". "Nuff said.

  • igbymac

    19 weeks ago

    It's hard to rebut Kreditanstalt ...

    because s/he holds tight to so many ideas which are fundamentally wrong. Explaining these errors taught by state, and which have been fattened with 'elite status quo' soundbites, would take days.

    So I address only the first post.

    Man is born into a state of nature in which equality of result is not possible.

    Does this mean equality of result shouldn't even be sought? Do parents feed thier children differently? Do some get rags and the prodigal son the riches?

    People able to make finer distinctions than others as to the course of action to take survive.

    You are attributing success to one's abilities alone. This thinking is the bait the 'elite status quo' societal paradigm wants us all to feast oncthe most. It's the whole liberty-individuality-freedom shtick bastardized for elite selfish gain. If your economic system wants freedom, why does it insist on hiding behind protective corporate shells? Seriously, nobody thinks they deserve their position quite as much as the self-man kings. The reality is far different.

    Cultural anthropological and other sociological studies prove that human survival has been grounded in the collective, not the individual. Look around. You are not an island.

    Your survival is dependant upon society. Virtually everything you have learned or had opportunity to experience is directly because of society. If I left you alone in the woods with a hatchet, how long before you could send me an email? Would you even survive in the purest sense?

    Others fall by the wayside.

    Really? The Canadian collective (at a cost) ensures we all survive (more or less), but it does not allow us all to excel. What you are talking about are those unable to 'use the system' to do better than others.

    (cont)

  • igbymac

    19 weeks ago

    (cont from above)

    The mere existence of the government gun - redistribution of earnings through force - can only mask this temporarily.

    So long as the history of western civiliation and longer is considered temporary, I suppose.

    Human nature - looking out for number one - will not be erased so simply.

    Certainly not when the forces dominating society are willing to use their guns and power to keep themselves and the 'elite status quo' look out for number one social paradigm intact.

    Human nature is constantly governed by our intellect. We just are not very intelligent about governing this aspect of our human nature, and to our own peril.

    Only capitalism - LESS regulation, more personal responsibility and caveat emptor - can provide REAL economic growth, jobs and, in the end, an increase in societal wealth.

    We do not need more 'real' growth. We need less of it. We need more sustainability.

    There is no more 'wealth' out there, Kreditanstalt. The planetary resources are our wealth. There is nothing else.

    What we need to do is manage this finite wealth so we can all carry on, hopefully in a more egalitarian way. What we don't need to do is to allow incessantly hoarding by individuals as we have been doing for 3000+ years.

  • zalm

    19 weeks ago

    Why bother?

    Kredit's silly theses live out of the witless maunderings of Walter Block, and the impecunious logic of Mises and Rothbard, and as a last ditch attempt to pander to populist feeling when those attempts fail, the vainglorious literature of Rand and one or two of the Yankee Founding Fathers.

    But the world we live in is not at all like the fanciful depictions of the Austrian libertarians or ev3en Jeffersonian Virginia, beginning first with the principle that any attempt to exercise control over private property itself does violence to the society that harbours it. The libertarian, by definition non-aggressive, is inherently illogical, and none of these economists or philosophers have ever been able to explain the contradictions away.

    That doesn't bother kredit in the least. He's got his. He's so poorly read that its worthless arguing with him. Philosophers such as Charles Murray, economists like Paul Krugman, and ethicists such as Pete Singer have pointed out these contradictions many times since the 1970s, yet they remain unanswered by Block et al, who persist in plugging their ears with their fingers and shouting "La-la-la! I can only hear the sound of my own voice!"

    Have sympathy for the poor bugger, trapped as he is in an adolescent Heinleinian time warp, but for heaven's sake don't think you're going to get anywhere by arguing with his circular reasoning. It's like mud-wrestling with a pig, and he loves it.

  • igbymac

    19 weeks ago

    zalm

    The libertarian, by definition non-aggressive, is inherently illogical, and none of these economists or philosophers have ever been able to explain the contradictions away. ...

    Kreditanstalt is an Americanized libertarian much like Obama is an Americanized socialist,

    I will give Kreditanstalt credit, though. Nothing short of a Americanized smartbomb is gonna loosen the grip of delusion.

  • Jeffrey J.

    19 weeks ago

    Prof. Gutstein: Timely & Incisive

    Donald Gutstein, BC's own author and journalist, is a welcome voice about truth in politics. If you haven't read it already, his book Not A Conspiracy Theory is a must have.

    We need to understand that the 1% remain in control over the rest of us by specific techniques. But just as importantly, WE are the majority. WHY do we remain unorganized? If we band together, even as much as 5%, we will outnumber the rich by a long shot.

    In the end, it will be up to us. How can we learn to sidestep the heavy cloak of authority? Start by cancelling your cable TV, a huge source of propaganda, and follow by terminating subscriptions to mainstream newspapers and magazines (more gobbledegook propaganda).

    It will be imperative that we learn to think for ourselves, without the continuous cartoon-like media buzzing away in our brains.

    Great coverage as always.

  • Fiat lux

    19 weeks ago

    The 1% of the world have

    The 1% of the world have always ruled and enslaved on the basis of religious theories, empowering them as the "chosen" and the "Will of God".

    Monetary economics are a pseudo religion, preached, legalized and enforced by the Priesthood of the Money God, today's so called "economists", enslaving the world with false theories at the intellectual level of Hitler's racial idiocies of "Mensch vs. Supermensch", with certain "Untermensch" nothing more than animals.

    They remind me of the SS doctors who examined us when we were taken to Germany for military training in Dec.44.

    One of their gimmicks was to carefully examine the hairs on the top of our hands to detect "Jewish blood".

    Now look at what the professors of economics, especially the Arnold Block, formerly of the Fraser Inst., types are saying and are brainwashing the public with as the "science of economics".

    Hard to say whether they're fools, or crooks, with academic letters behind their names.

    Ed Deak.

  • RickW

    19 weeks ago

    Kredit......

    Quote:
    Human nature - looking out for number one

    How do you explain the family unit? How do you explain raising children? How do you explain gangs? How do you explain barn-raising? How do you explain the phrase "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts"?

  • Fiat lux

    19 weeks ago

    The first thing necessary for

    The first thing necessary for the looking out for number one theory is cooperation with others, or the number one won't last long.

    I'm the first in promoting individuality, but that also demands the respect for the individuality of others, which includes help, economic survival and sustainability.

    There are 6 families of 4 ethnic origins on our dead end ranch road, all strongly individualistic, but with the highest respect for and cooperation with each other.

    The same goes for our whole community. All anybody has to do is to pick up a phone and shout "help" and there'll be a row of trucks and cars on the road in minutes.

    One of our calves broke through the ice late yesterday afternoon. I'm not much of a help for such things at my age, except to supply the rope and floodlight, so our partner called a neighbour and he was here in the dark, fighting, sometimes deep in swamp water at -8 C, but they got her out.

    Because ou5r friend knew that if he ever needs anything from anybody, the help will come running.

    Now, in a real "self interest", capitalist system the neighbour would have laughed and enjoyed our problem, quoting the "invisible hand of self interest" which, the way Adam Smith wrote it, means help and cooperation with others and not the distorted way quoted by professors and economists, or the sick capitalist system is based on.

    Ed Deak

    Ed Deak. .

  • lynn

    19 weeks ago

    An excellent article by

    An excellent article by Donald Gutstein who always tells it like it is.

    Yes, it's really about "economic freedom" for the 1%, and economic enslavement for the rest of us.

    Always important to remember The Fraser Institute is just a name created to sound official, scientific and significant. It is none of those things. Just another marketing ploy to sell the running-on-empty economics of the running-on-empty banksters and privateers.

  • lynn

    19 weeks ago

    "The first thing necessary

    "The first thing necessary for the looking out for number one theory is cooperation with others, or the number one won't last long." ~ Fiat Lux

    Great posts above on cooperation by Ed Deak and also by Rick W.

  • Fiat lux

    19 weeks ago

    Lynn....If you look up the

    Lynn....If you look up the origins of the Bilderbergers and Trilaterals and a few more of the same cast, you'll see how, where and why the Fraser Inst. originated and how the corporate mafia bought and took over the world's university economics departments, as governments were cutting back funds.

    The FI was financed by McMillan of McMillan and Bloedel fame. It is all on google.

    Ed Deak.

  • Investor

    19 weeks ago

    Consider

    Kredit is much closer to reality.

    Most on this thread are incorrectly considering how well strong leaders throughout time have lived.

    Inequality now or even the relatively free late 1800’s is not even close to most of history…haven’t chiefs/lords etc. always controlled more than capital - basic human rights and interests of those around them has generally been the norm.

  • igbymac

    19 weeks ago

    Investor

    I don't think you have any overarching perspective on what is going on around the world as we march toward a global kleptocratic corporatocracy and the surveillance-security state.

  • Fiat lux

    19 weeks ago

    It took 70 years for two

    It took 70 years for two world wars and the death camps of Stalin, Hitler and Mao to kill 120 million.

    Capitalist colonization kills the same number in about 4-5 years, with hunger, bad water and easily preventable illnesses, while the multinational corporate mafia steals huge profits from peoples' pockets and the bread from their mouths.

    By the way,I was sentenced to death by the nazis for "treason" , but saved by the end of the war and to the gulags by the communists, but they didn't catch me, so they tortured my mother to show who is boss.

    Ed Deak.

  • Chris_

    19 weeks ago

    @Kreditanstalt

    I will not bother repeating the excellent rebuttals posted by others in response to your flawed ideology.

    But, consider this. You purchase insurance because you understand (and obviously cannot afford to self-insure) the benefit of pooling money to protect the small minority who may suffer a substantial financial loss. Evidently, you do not rule yourself out from possibly being one of that small minority.

    The reason I use the example of insurance is because I know you purchase it and I know you understand the perceived value of insurance. ERGO, you understand every rebuttal posted in option to your post. The reason you resist these reasoned arguments is because you are an amoral person. I am sure you profess to have moral values, but whatever morality you purport to embrace is based on selfishness. You have made this abundantly clear in your own words.

    Hence, you are a hypocrite and a poorly educated person. Sadly, you have many cohorts, which in reality exist in all social classes. I have met many of your kind.

    My hope for you is you get an education. Given how diluted your reasoning is, I fear the only way that will occur will be when a fellow Social Darwinist adversary eats your lunch. Then again, maybe not . . . . .

  • Kreditanstalt

    19 weeks ago

    @Chris_

    OK, I'll bite.

    Let's deal with, for example, the forced-at-gunpoint government health "insurance" system with which Canadians are burdened.

    If this were a true insurance system, premiums would be determined based on each individual's risk. Those with high-risk lifestyles would pay more. Smokers, drinkers, the overweight, even homosexuals and native indians might be charged more if group behaviour were taken into account. Those with poor health records too - frequent visitors to doctors' offices. The chronically-ill would pay more. But these people, as groups or as individuals, DON'T.

    It's NOT "insurance". This system is really a social welfare program, designed to force those with greater means to foot more of the bill for those of lesser means. As with all such programs, personal responsibility for one's own health becomes unnecessary. And of course this kind of involuntary income redistribution has by its very nature to be done through force and has to be universal.

    Yet standards are slipping as more and more people (me included!) find ways to qualify for subsidization. Gaming the system becomes more and more common as those deemed well-off enough pay more and more. The finances go further and further into the red yearly. Health care eats up an enormous and constantly growing portion of provincial revenues. Access to doctors, especially in rural areas, is difficult, as is the availability of MRIs, ultrasounds, knee replacements and all kinds of other procedures.

    Everyone can, I'm sure, agree that standards and finances are gradually slipping.

    What's the alternative? A completely private, user-pay system. NOT "equal", not "progressive" and not "fair", but HONEST. It is simply NOT possible to forever avoid the dog-eat-dog world of personal responsibility. No amount of other people's money can hold the forces of Darwinian nature at bay forever. Legislation aimed at the well-to-do will never bring "equality", "fairness" or "social justice".

    And possibly a user-pay system would be something that would encourage REAL concern for one's own health and spur real changes to deleterious habits and lifestyles...

  • RickW

    19 weeks ago

    Kreditanstalt

    If it were a true predatory system perhaps, such as is found in the various insurance practices today.

    However, the insurance system we have operates more along the lines of the "insurance" system that pioneers had when it was time for a barn-raising, where everyone joined in because it helped insure the long-term prosperity of the community. No one pre-judged the health or abilities of the neighbour needing the barn built. Whether you like it or not, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is by far the more popular among the "peasant class" than is the "dog eat dog" you'd have us adopt.

  • Chris_

    19 weeks ago

    @Kreditanstalt

    Yep, just what I expected. Nice deflection, but the issue I raised, as you well know, was the concept of insurance. You insurance your assets even when there is no lender requiring you to do so as a condition of a loan. Why? Because you clearly understand the concept of spreading the risk among many, and you are too poor to afford self-insuring. So why then do you argue against the concept of spreading the risk in other scenarios in society? My judgement of your argument still stands. IMHO, you have a character flaw.

  • globestar

    19 weeks ago

    $tephen Harper

    Is Harper driving the bus? Is he the navigator? Is he given the directions by bigger passengers?
    On one hand he would have you believe he is driving. He is the one making all the important decisions. He is the one making it easy for the oil industry to exploit Canada. He says this is good for economic progress.Good for Joe Public. You and I.
    On the other hand the oil industry is laughing as they have found their man. An evangelical christian oil man who loves hockey! They couldn't be happier. He gives them more than a billion dollars a year and keeps cutting their taxes. Profits are rolling in. Not to Canada but to them. That doesn't matter to $tephen. He will even send troops to sort out their oil wars. No Arab state with oil or pipelines is going to mess with him. He is an evagelist christian and not immune to war. He is used to taking orders from either a mythilogical power or a corpoate power.He is on a mission to increase the profits of the biggest oil companies even if that means risking environmental devistation. He does not care. They do not care. He has helped them to hyjack this nation.We are a country under seige.
    From manipulating parlaiment, destorying democracy to removing environmental protection, he is doing their business.With him driving we are destined to become a nation under corporate control. The signs are all there. We don't have to look too hard to see the dots being connected. We have seen the same commitment of government to corporate rule in BC over the past 11 years. We know the signs all to well. Stop the bus.

  • OwlRol

    18 weeks ago

    "Economic freedom" eliminates real freedoms

    'Economic freedom' is more than a one percent buzzword. It is the term that artificially connects Capitalism with Democracy and its concepts of free speech and the press, freedom of religion, etc.

    These liberal notions tied to Democracy are individualistic, yet allow us to reason, imagine, discuss and collectively plan.

    But, except for inflammatory diatribes, it allows for personal space without seriously impinging on our neighbours' personal spaces.

    Such is not the case with 'Economic freedom'. Freedom for corporations to put small entrepreneurs out of business, to close operations because workers wish to organize, to move facilities to non Democratic, near slave labour locations, to corrupt community and environmental safeguards for greater profits, these can never be viewed as personal space, except for the "corporation as individual" nonsense. And they most certainly impinge on our neighbours' spaces to the point of forcing them out of their chosen positions.

    Just like "efficiencies" is code for layoffs and the "invisible hand of the market" is much like rearanging those Titanic deck chairs, so "Economic freedom" is code for ruthless corporate imposition on workers, communities, ecosystems and landscapes.

    Although every social and cultural group has more or less powerful individuals, chiefs, elders, etc., most early groups allowed for a modicum of equality and input. This was necessary for group survival.

    Mass society changed that, with god-kings, slaves, etc.

  • OwlRol

    18 weeks ago

    Post Industrial Rev.

    But even after the Industrial Revolution, most production was tied to local consumption, despite Mercantile colonialism. The more distant the market, the more costly. This was true even into the 1970s (and in the north, today).

    This served a useful purpose by making the producer dependent on the regional market. If these communities, except for a small percentage, could not afford to purchase products, the company would go out of business. Henry Ford figured that one out, despite his shareholders' chagrin. Keep workers' wages high so they can buy.

    But globalization's cheap transport and free trade no longer rely on local markets, so who cares, as long as shareholders can profit from distant sales.

    And senior governments continue to tie their own hands with trade agreements to limit their own and other societal groups' abilities to intervene in the public interest.

    Workers and communities continue to be undermined, being forced out of desperation, to accept activities they really don't want. The Northern Gateway is a good case in point.

    But as transportation energy gets more costly or unavailable, this "Economic freedom", globalized Capitalist system begins to unravel, to the fear of corporate leaders.

    Get that oil and gas out there quickly and damm the community and environmental objectors. Call those reviews democratic, just let us get on with it.

    Real freedom vs. Economic freedom, you choose, because they are not honestly compatible except in certain blinded rhetoric..

  • OwlRol

    18 weeks ago

    Poverty and freedom are incompatible

    It was Karl Marx who stated that "Poverty and freedom are incompatible".

    He did economic analysis of many different societies, even 1850s Tahiti. Wish he was still around to analyze our current globalized Capitalism.

    Whether one agrees or disagrees with his conclusions, his shrewd analyses are worth investigating, not dismissing them unread to the "trashpiles of history".

    If that's the case, then Rand and Freidman should be buried below that pile. Just look at what these latter did to Kreditanstalt.