Opinion

Our Water Secretly Sucked Away by Shale Gas Industry

Beyond public scrutiny, vast amounts of BC's water are being dealt to 'fracking' operations.

By Ben Parfitt, 15 Mar 2011, TheTyee.ca

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On Feb. 15 of this year, Calgary-based Canbriam Energy Inc. quietly applied to the B.C. government for the rights to pull billions of litres of water out of Williston Reservoir, the ultimate source of much of our province's hydroelectricity.

The application was the second submitted in less than a year. In 2010, Talisman Energy, another Calgary-based company, got the ball rolling with a similar proposal. If Talisman and Canbriam get their way, they could soon withdraw a combined 7.3 billion litres of water annually out of the reservoir -- an amount equivalent to draining 2,920 Olympic swimming pools each and every year.

That's a lot of water, yet a fraction of what natural gas companies are projected to need for their "fracking" operations -- the name commonly used to described the pressure-pumping of immense amounts of water below ground to fracture shale rock, thereby releasing its trapped gas.

The dearth of information on the Talisman and Canbriam proposals might not be of such a concern if it were the exception to the rule. But in numerous instances important decisions on water allocations are being made without the public even being told that applications have been filed, let alone being provided an opportunity to review and comment on the proposals.

Fracking and its toxic results

Of greater concern, the paucity of data plays out against a backdrop of increasing environmental, public health and safety problems associated with fracking operations in the United States and Canada, including here in B.C. Problems such as contaminated water wells, household explosions and fires linked to migrating methane gas, kitchen tap water so contaminated with methane that it can be lit on fire, airborne discharges of natural gas containing lethal levels of hydrogen sulphide, and spectacular fish kills traced to discharges of highly toxic fracking wastewater into rivers and streams.

To date, natural gas companies have received the bulk of their water through temporary permits issued by the Oil and Gas Commission (OGC). The industry has a unique advantage over all other water users in the province in that it can get water from its own dedicated regulator. All other water users, without exception, must obtain their water from provincial water stewardship officials (recently housed in the Ministry of Environment, then transferred to the Ministry of Natural Resource Operations with last October's cabinet shuffle, and now, following this week's cabinet shuffle by new B.C. Premier Christy Clark, heading to the Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations).

First Nations cut out of loop

The troubling lack of publicly available information on the Talisman and Canbriam water license applications is paralleled by the Oil and Gas Commission's failure to share information with local First Nations. The OGC, which issues hundreds of temporary water use permits to energy companies each year, has routinely elected not to forward energy company water application to First Nations prior to granting companies access to water. In some cases, the time between when a company applied for large volumes of water and the OGC approved such applications was just 24 hours. Individual First Nations only found out that such was the case months later, and only then after filing information requests with the commission.

This clearly violates the government's legal duty to consult with First Nations, but also flies in the face of agreements signed by the OGC and First Nations in 2006, in which the province committed to consult with First Nations before oil and gas activities occurred that could "adversely impact" their constitutionally protected rights.

Even greater concerns surround longer-term water licences, like those sought by Canbriam and Talisman, because unlike temporary water use permits, which have a term of no more than one year, licences can lock in rights of access to public water supplies for years if not decades to come. The OGC cannot issue licences. The authority to do so remains with provincial water stewardship officials.

Near the community of Hudson's Hope, members of the West Moberly First Nations have only now -- five months after Talisman submitted its proposal -- received the application and related documents, and only then after formally requesting them from the provincial government. To date, the general public has received nothing.

'Give us all the information, not half'

Included in the package of materials sent to the West Moberly First Nation are letters from water stewardship officials and the OGC dated respectively Feb. 22 and Feb. 23. In the letters, a vaguely defined "bundled" and "innovative" consultation process is promised. The letters indicate that the energy regulator, not the water regulator, will spearhead the process, which will address both the water licence application (requiring water stewardship approval) and the pipeline proposal, which the OGC must approve.

"During this bundling of applications, I will coordinate the consultation with your community on behalf of both agencies and attempt to identify, mitigate and resolve the concerns that arise from the applications. This approach is being used in an attempt to coordinate Government agencies on related applications by giving a 'bigger picture of related projects' to the communities involved," writes OGC First Nation liaison officer, Delia Christianson.

Absent in either letter is mention of a clearly "related" project -- Canbriam's bid to essentially replicate Talisman's proposal -- that would effectively double the amount of water removed from Williston Reservoir and up the environmental risks accordingly. It is an omission that does not sit well with Roland Willson, chief of the West Moberly First Nations.

"As far as I'm concerned, the Oil and Gas Commission should not be leading any consultation on water rights or allocations in our territory," Willson said. "That's a job for provincial water regulators. The other thing that really concerns me is that when they finally send us information they neglect to mention that Talisman is not alone in seeking to divert massive amounts of water out of Williston Reservoir. In fact, there is at least one other major water diversion proposal that has been filed with the provincial government. If they want to present us with the 'bigger picture' they need to give us all the information, not half of it."

West Moberly First Nations members and the general public in and around Hudson's Hope only learned of Talisman's application through a brief company presentation to municipal councilors last summer, followed by company officials informing local residents that surveyors would be coming onto their farmlands to situate the proposed water pipeline.

When the surveyors arrived in September, they found fields baked dry by a drought that caused Williston Reservoir to fall by five metres. Water from the massive lake, diverted through turbines at the W.A.C. Bennett Dam, is the source of about one third of all electricity consumed by British Columbians.

The public is not invited

Under the circumstances, it is no surprise that BC Hydro is demanding a say in what water Talisman and Canbriam may get. Yet no member of the public is privy to discussions between the public power provider, Talisman and Canbriam, nor do members of the public have any idea what public water officials consider a sustainable rate of water use by natural gas companies.

BC Hydro did not respond to a request for comment on these matters.

What is known, however, is that water use by those companies is poised to explode, particularly if gas prices climb. Just one company involved in today's water-intensive fracking operations, Calgary-based Apache Canada, says it could drill 3,000 gas wells in northern B.C. Based on Apache's world record for water use at a single multiple-well gas pad last winter at Two Island Lake northeast of Fort Nelson, the amount of water needed to frack all of Apache's wells is estimated to be between 183 million cubic metres (73,200 Olympic swimming pools) and 300 million cubic metres (120,000 Olympic swimming pools); water that would be permanently removed from the hydrological cycle.

Once again, this permanent removal of water from public waterways is occurring in the complete absence of public input. Given the severe drought in one of the two major shale gas zones in northeast B.C. last year, it's time for the secrecy to end. First Nations communities and non-First Nations communities alike deserve to know important facts about who proposes to use B.C.'s water, where the water will come from, and how it will be used. We deserve this and more, well before decisions are made that will have potentially irreversible consequences for our land and water resources in future years.  [Tyee]

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  • jacksonupnorth

    1 year ago

    Water taken out of the cycle NEVER to return

    There is a huge amount of fracking in northeast BC. Some of the fracks use over 100 of the massive water tanks. When it goes in the ground certain chemicals and acids are added to it. Occasionally some of the water can be reused but for the most part the water that comes back up is hauled to a toxic waste facility. This water is gone from the cycle of nature, never to return. I heard that there have been over 20,000 well sites in the Dawson Creek area. Many wells are not just fracked once but are fracked several times. Sometimes the fracks go on for 24hours a day for a week. There are usually about 30 vehicles involved in a frack crew plus about 30 semi trucks hauling the water at all hours of the day and night. This takes place on farmland often right near the landowners house and in some cases right near rural schools. The landowners have very little say in this as we do not own the undersurface rights on our own land. Some of these fracks take place in community pastures. The landowners are paid a pittance for the use of this land and cannot refuse access. The provincial government took the power to OK the process away from the Agricultural Land Commission and gave it to the Oil and Gas commission. The OCG has never denied a request. The Liberal government likes to say they have created so many jobs as a result there is no one speaking for the environment other than the farmers, ranchers and a few native groups.

  • Alberta Visitor

    1 year ago

    Water Injection for oil and gas extraction

    This practice appears to be widespread and virtually unnoticed. My understanding is freshwater and seawater throughout the world is pumped into energy producing fields. One small plant on a lake near where I live uses two engines totalling 1800 horsepower to pump water 24/7 into oblivion.

    It would be interesting to know how much water is being irretrievably lost worldwide.

  • cboo44

    1 year ago

    Pumping Toxic Water "into oblivion" ??

    Oil & gas CLAIM that they are pumping water into areas below the water table. Riiiiiight !
    Tell that to the farmers in Saskatchewan who now have the "disposed of CO2" coming up in their fields. This practice will come back to bite us on our a$$es and oil & gas will have "moved on", just you watch.

  • Waltz

    1 year ago

    Moratorium on "fracking" needed in BC

    The recent cabinet shuffle has done nothing to sort out the wild, de-regulated chaos of the resource ministries in BC.

    What BC desperately needs is sustainability legislation for water, air, soil and natural life, and, subordinate to it, sustainable-use legislation for the resources (gas, oil, timber, forage, non-timber products, recreation, etc).

    This will require resource policy, something the Clark government appears to be as baffled about as the Campbell regime. Thank you Ben Parfitt for the wake-up call. Excellent article!

  • reallife

    1 year ago

    Ben, what happened?

    Ben, at one time, you could be counted on to provide a reasoned critique of resource industry practices, sans "the sky is falling" overstatement.

    Water use throughout BC, whether for domestic purposes, agriculture or industry, including oil and gas, is an important topic. However, your over-dramatized portrayal of the oil and gas industry use only serves to confuse the issue and raise uninformed alarm among the public. Why, for example, do you use litres to describe the amount of water proposed to be removed from Williston Lake? Wouldn't it be more pertinent (but less inflammatory) to show the amount as a percentage of the total in the lake (which would be a very small number indeed)?

    And why do you suggest that fraccing in BC has contaminated water wells, caused household explosions and fires, resulted in kitchen tap water that can be lit on fire, led to airborne discharges lethal levels of hydrogen sulphide, and spectacular fish kills when you know this has never happened here?

    I liked your work much better when you did not embellish the facts.

  • blackie

    1 year ago

    perspective

    These kinds of stories drive me nuts, because they take a legitimate, and controversial issue -- water used by the natural gas industry for fracing -- and sensationalize it beyond belief with what look like big, eye-popping numbers.

    The 7.3 billion liters (2900 Olympic swimming pools -- nice touch) these two companies propose to withdraw annually is less than 1 per cent of the 74 trillion liter volume of water in Williston Lake. Funny that wasn't explained, eh? The story leaves you with the impression that somehow Hydro's ability to generate electricity would be compromised by that.

    Unfortunately, when journalists do this stuff, they wreck their credibility and make me highly skeptical of the rest of the piece.

    Pity, because it is an issue that needs to be thrashed out for a whole bunch of reasons, toxicity being probably the biggest. And for all those arguing that there should be a moratorium on fracing -- tell me what you have in mind to replace the billions of dollars that industry pumps into the provincial treasury right now.

  • motorcycleguy

    1 year ago

    Abbott and Costello

    I have used the "Who's on first?" analogy quite a few times in comments about the folly of the Liberal government private power dam the river and drain the lake energy policy. Looks like this is another application. We drain the lakes (just like we do with the "run of river" projects)....except in this case we don't do it to generate electricity, we do it to frac for gas. Then, when the reservoir levels are too low to generate electricity, we use the frac'd gas to run turbines to generate electricity.....and throw away the water while we are at it. See link to video. Our legislature doesn't appear much different. I think our mainstream media reporters (I use the term loosely) are busy being in the audience....they don't have a reason to leave the theatre, they get all the popcorn and hotdogs they can eat.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

  • riproarer

    1 year ago

    utter hypocrisy

    This *will* impact BC Hydro's ability to generate power. Water levels fluctuate from year to year and in low reservoir years BC Hydro imports power to meet demand. What is galling is how the government is simultaneously extolling the desprate need for electricity "self-sufficiency" and hence pursuing a policy premised on the massive subsidizaion of private power development through long-term contracts for huge amounts of IPP power, at around three times the market rate. The hypocrisy is incredible.

  • motorcycleguy

    1 year ago

    total volume

    actually, the "live" useful volume of Williston is considerably less than the "total" volume...thus the effect of this useage is greater....and the water used is not returned to "the system"....and the effects are more during times of year with low water levels..and the amount presently requested is surely to increase 10 fold in the coming years.....and...what about NAFTA? There will now be little question the water is a required commodity used in the production of a good...ultimately the production of a good by a US owned company...and...and...

  • VivianLea Doubt

    1 year ago

    ahem...

    When we are discussing the amount of water that can be used for any purpose - drinking, recreation, mining, fracking - what is important is the RENEWABLE supply. Canada, for example, has a large portion of the world's standing water, but has 7% of the renewable supply. So the amount of water that can be drained from the reservoir is a percentage of what portion is renewable, not the total volume - unless, of course we find it acceptable to drain the reservoir in its entirety. Of course, given climate change, estimates as to rainfall etc. (the renewables) may have to be revised.

    Many municipalities in Canada have experienced drinking water shortages in the past decade, and water will most certainly be scarce - the majority of Canda's water drains northern watersheds while the majority of the population clusters along the borders at the south. Add to that that groundwater has never been mapped - we simply do not understand the movement of groundwater, that Canadians are at the top of the list in usage of water among the countries of the world, that inumerable watersheds face pressures beyond what is sustainable...

    Are you prepared to give up your drinking water? How much? Would you forego your daily shower, for example? And to echo the point of the article, why is there no public conversation about this in BC?

    At this moment water is sold to the highest bidders in BC and other juridictions: the needs of a golf course, or a mine, outweight the needs of a fish-bearing stream. Of course, it is not just the fish that will suffer in this equation. The movement of water is a central function of how our very landscape is formed; central to both life and the well-being of humans. It is simply barbaric beyond words that dollars outvote the concept of watershed management every time.
    To repeat, barbaric...

  • Cool Hand

    1 year ago

    NE BC Natural Gas Sector

    The Horn River, Montney, and Cordova Embayment basins in NE BC potentially will make BC Canada's wealthiest province over the next decade.

    Nexen's CEO Romanow has publicly stated that the volume of natural gas in the Horn River Basin alone equals the volumes found in all of Alberta.

    And natural gas revenue is what made Alberta the wealthy petro state that it is today.

    Fracking is part of the process involved in these basins. The chemical mix represents less than 1% of the injection process.

    Furthermore, Oil and Gas Activities Act, which came into effect last October, contains regulations that specifically address drilling of shale gas wells and hydro-fracturing. Water stewardship is also addressed in regulations and companies are required to dispose of chemicals safely.

    Environment technology companies, such as Ridgeline Energy Services Inc., provide on-site services for the treatment, reuse, and recycling of produced and flowback waste water in gas well fracturing and flowback water from operations in N.E. B.C.

    As for the NE natural gas sector itself, companies such as South African SASOL have taken a $2 billion equity position in the Montney basin. As a world leader in liquid conversion technology, SASOL is also looking at setting up a natural gas to liquids facility to produce diesel and other liquid fuels.

    Several pipelines are also on the drawing board for west coast LNG ports and export to Asia.

    Quote:
    Shale Gas Could Herald Era Of Unparalled Wealth In B.C.

    Quote:
    Locked within the shale deposits of northeastern British Columbia lies a natural gas reserve of unparalleled wealth that could push the province into a resource boom unrivalled since the development 50 years ago of the pulp-and-paper industry.

    Quote:
    Even at today's low price for natural gas of about $3 per 1,000 cubic feet at the wellhead, those reservoirs could have a value beginning at $750 billion. And the more companies drill, the more gas they find.

    http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Shale+could+herald+unparalled+wealth/4435487/story.html#ixzz1Gb01HdaH

    The NE natural gas sector could finally provide the BC government to:

    1. Reduce the HST from 12% to 5%;
    2. Eliminate MSP premiums;
    3. Further lower the overall tax regime;
    4. Provide additional funds for infrastructure, education, health, and social services;
    5. Pay-off the provincial debt;

    Of course, in BC, dummies do exist that want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

  • demotto

    1 year ago

    Water

    Water is definitely not a commodity and should not be treated as such. It is the life blood of the planet. Living things can go without food for days maybe even weeks but, not so with water without which all life is dead. Air and water it seems are on the corporate agenda to be classified as commodities to trade for profit, air through the carbon tax is already being taxed. It's time to stand up and say enough is enough or our grandchildren will have no semblance of freedom of life, it will be taken by corporations, if they can not come up with the required homage.

    It's pretty good deal for big oil and gas as they get to basically steal the commons water with the bribed politicians blessing then they get to enter onto a farmers land and with the stolen water get to do a bit of geological destruction through fracking that quite often destroys the aquifer leaving the farmer with unusable and possibly toxic and in some cases flammable water where he once had potable life giving water he is left with poison.

    Ya just gotta love the depravity of it all.

  • Driftwood

    1 year ago

    Are we safe here?

    Perhaps this is not the right forum to ask this question, but with that nuclear reactor self-destructing in Fukushima, one might be forgiven for wondering just where that wind blows when it blows out to sea and saves the people of Japan from radioactive poisoning?

  • VivianLea Doubt

    1 year ago

    @ Driftwood

    The short answer is 'no'...we in North America certainly will not escape some consequences. But follow the logic of Cool Hand, above: we need only make ourselves rich enough to escape the consequences of radioactive poisoning - or a shortage of water.

    I wonder if the wealthy in Japan believe that at this moment?

  • demotto

    1 year ago

    Alberta

    Alberta the wealthy petro state is not an example of anything our province should aspire to. Alberta is running a deficit and has cut royalty rates so low they make more money off gambling and booze than off royalties.

  • Ben Parfitt

    1 year ago

    A reply to blackie and reallife

    Ladies or Gentlemen,

    Just a couple of points in response. First, Talisman's and Canbriam's proposed water withdrawals may, indeed, amount to just 1 per cent of the total volume of water in Williston Reservoir. But at what point in time and under what conditions? And who is to say that bids by fracking companies to divert water from the reservoir will stop at just two proposals? And if they do not stop at two proposals, who will be the judge of what constitutes sustainable rates of water withdrawals now and in the future?

    The public has a right to know what regulators operating on their behalf think of such questions and how they plan to address critically important issues surrounding cumulative impacts. The thrust of my article was to point out that by and large the public generally - and First Nations particularly - do not know. They are in the dark as to what regulators think in this regard.

    And not just with respect to proposed water withdrawals from Williston Reservoir but from numerous rivers in the region - rivers that fell to 50-year lows and which were subject to water withdrawals 24 hours a day 7 days a week by convoys of water trucks operating in the Hudson's Hope area and elsewhere in the South Peace region last year. Water takings on rivers like the Halfway were eventually halted, only to be lifted weeks later after moderate rains that local farmers said brought little if no relief to local lands and waters. When the water takings resumed in some cases, they resumed at increased daily withdrawal rates as approved by provincial regulators - again in the absence of any opportunity for public review and comment.

    I agree wholeheartedly that issues relating to toxicity and the fracking industry are a major issue - and I address that topic among many others in my report for the Water Program at the Munk School of Global Affairs - a report that laid out numerous recommendations that would, if followed, more adequately protect the public interest and that included calls for more transparency in water reporting.

    As for the host of problems I identify with fracking activities, let me be clear these are documented problems that have occurred in the three jurisdictions I mentioned. If I left people with the impression that all of them have occurred in B.C., I apologize. But one or more of them have occurred in Canadian or American jurisdictions, including a dangerous release of sour gas near the northeast B.C. community of Pouce Coupe in 2009, the cause of which was ultimately traced to frack sand in well piping that caused the piping to fail.

  • reallife

    1 year ago

    Reply to Ben Parfitt

    Thanks for clarifying that you did not intend to leave the impression that your litany of concerns actually have occurred in BC. Could you also clarify that some of the issues you have cited are not related to shale gas but are unproven allegations relating to coalbed gas in the US?

    The reason I continue to poke away at this is because of the over-the-top concerns it raises in the article's readers as shown in the following quotes from a post:

    "..steal the commons water with the bribed politicians blessing.."

    "..fracking that quite often destroys the aquifer leaving the farmer with unusable and possibly toxic and in some cases flammable water where he once had potable life giving water he is left with poison."

  • Norman Farrell

    1 year ago

    Read ProPublica

    for extensive coverage on gas production. This is not hysterical anti-industry coverage nor is it the industry can do no wrong BS that some are serving here in comments.

    This is a vital issue that should be examined with full public scrutiny and transparency.

    http://www.propublica.org/series/buried-secrets-gas-drillings-environmental-threat

    Quebec last week imposed a de facto moratorium on fracking.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/charest-dodges-shale-gas-bullet-with-de-facto-moratorium/article1936123/

  • jacksonupnorth

    1 year ago

    Cool hand it is not all or nothing

    Wouldn't it be awesome if the Liberal government monitored the oil and gas industry and cared even a tiny bit about the environment and the people that live in the north. The oil and gas industry does not have to come to a skreeching halt for this to happen.

  • Norman Farrell

    1 year ago

    jacksonupnorth, BC Liberals

    jacksonupnorth, BC Liberals believe in self-regulation, relying on producers to take all necessary precautions to protect the environment.

    You know, like they've done in the Niger Delta for 40 years or the way Chevron looks after its affairs in the Amazon basin.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/14/chevron-contaminate-ecuador

  • Driftwood

    1 year ago

    Thank you Vivian

    You couldn't make up a picture like this. That is the guy from TEPCO, the power company in Japan which owns the faulty GE made 40 year old containment structures at the Fuk Yu Ima Reactor plant. What could he be saying with those wild eyes and that hand clenched like a claw? Maybe, "My job description doesn't include being exposed to twenty times the natural radiation level here in Tokyo! So I'm leaving. Just as soon as I can get my hand unstuck from this company wall." or maybe...
    "Would you believe the government is leaving and leaving me in charge?" or
    "I'm going home and take my medication now." How about...
    "If you believe these lies, there are a few others I'd like you to try on."
    but the song playing in his head is definitely Kenny Rodgers:
    "You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
    Know when to walk away, know when to run!"

  • Lia

    1 year ago

  • jacksonupnorth

    1 year ago

    Thanks Lia

    Very interesting article. On top of everything else we have to deal with we too have deep well injection sites up here. One was just completed last summer on farmland just outside of Dawson Creek. These things are huge money makers. The company that built the site is called Secure Energy. Now their competition CCS plans on building another one about 20 kilometers away. Not because another site is needed but because they want their piece of the action. There are local residents trying to protest the second site but they are up against the multi million dollar company and of course our provincial government. The Environmental Assessment Office has never turned down an application.

  • zalm

    1 year ago

    blackie

    At 260 litres of water to generate 1000 kwh of electricity, the foregone generating capacity by Hydro at Williston due to water withdrawals is 28 billion kwh. At $0.07 per kwh as a standard average indusrial rate (and ignoring transmission line losses of about 10% for long distance lines) that means Hydro has foregone about $1.9 billion in potential electricity sales to fraccing.

    I know math is hard, but something isn't making sense here. Wouldn't it be cheaper to beef up the transmission lines, add a couple of generators at Williston, and sell the excess to a congress that wants truly clean power? Do we have to throw our clean water away to pump up wells, half of which are capped after flow-testing to take advantage of a future rise in prices?

    By the way, IEEE has some stunning numbers about water usage for other forms of power generation. The results are scary!

    http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/environment/how-much-water-does-it-take-to-make-electricity

  • zalm

    1 year ago

    Kuhl Hound

    THe natural gas basins won't make this province anything if we don't start charging royalties on gas sufficient to the opportunity cost we're passing up. There's a royalty holiday on now - less than 1% for nearly all new gas, and 4-11% on all old gas. Making it dependent on market price means we're getting just a pittance now. Hell, we get more for letting comipanies drill for gas than we do on pumping and shipping it! Some petro-state!

    We're throwing away our inheritance for a pittance.

    But of course you know that, speaking as an player in the shale gas plays yourself.

    NE Sector gas won't provide for any benefits for this province
    - no new schools for kids,
    - no increases to welfare rates for disabled,
    - no new housing for homeless,
    - no new health facilities for the people - because this government doesn't believe in charging its friends a fair price for a valuable one-time natural resource bonanza.

  • cfvua

    1 year ago

    Eaasy Coooolly

    At the rate we are "crediting" royalties back to the producers there won't be enough to buy a free lunch at a food bank.
    Almost no jobs are being created in BC and if you don't believe me get up here and look around. Alberta Advantage Allover. So do some simple math. No royalties, no income taxes from employment, no license fees from vehicles, little land sale revenue, and how will you pay for your big plans. Just because we produce more gas doesn't mean more revenue as the current production numbers how. Wake up or it will be all gone and you will have nothing to show for it. After all if low royalties were the way to go wouldn't Alberta be rich now, instead of running serious deficits? So far in BC all lower royalties and return gifts to producers have done is deliver us a $60 Billion and rising debt. If Good ol Gordon Campbell and Brad Wall had supported Ed Stelmach when he wanted to raise royalties a bit some good may have come from the much trumpeted western provinces trade agreement. Danny Williams did it all by himself and ended up retiring at about 90% popularity. Contrast with Campbell's 9%. Bad advice I guess. The whiners in Calgary and Texas could always head for Venezuela or Libya. We'll be ok without some of them anyway.
    Hopefully the propane fracturing method will get perfected and we can get over the water problem as it is and will be THE problem.

  • RickW

    1 year ago

    cfvua

    Quote:
    Just because we produce more gas doesn't mean more revenue

    Gosh! I wonder if Christy knows this??!!

  • Mikemah

    1 year ago

    heh

    Christy Clarks' water comes out of a bottle mainly from France of somewhere where the politicians care about the environment. Didn't you know that?

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