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First Face-off in Legislature for Clark and Dix
Premier rebuffs calls by NDP leader to fund groups participating in Missing Women's Inquiry.
Premier Christy Clark during question period Monday. Photo: Adrian Lam, press gallery pool.
British Columbians got a taste of what a Christy Clark versus Adrian Dix election will look like as the two faced off for the first time in the Legislature May 30.
Clark characterized the encounter as civil while Dix portrayed her as having dodged the substance of the questions and trivializing a serious issue.
Indeed Dix led off question period by welcoming the premier, who had been sworn in several hours earlier at an event in the Legislature lobby attended by many Clark supporters and her nine-year-old sneaker-clad son Hamish, before launching into a question about the missing women's inquiry being led by former Attorney General Wally Oppal.
"The government has chosen to deny funding to women's groups, to aboriginal groups, to community groups in the Downtown Eastside at the Missing Women's Inquiry," said Dix. The decision was made even though Oppal had recommended the funding. Asked Dix, "Will the premier intervene to overturn this decision and make sure those voices are heard at the inquiry?"
"What has happened in the Downtown Eastside is tragic, and it continues to be tragic," said a smiling Clark after thanking Dix for the question. "It has been a challenge for governments for decades to try and get our hands around the issues down there, try and wrestle them down and make sure that it's a better place tomorrow than it has been in the past."
She drew attention to the fact the government called the inquiry and appointed Oppal. "We want to make sure that we get to the bottom of some of the problems down on the Downtown Eastside and make sure that when we get to the bottom of those problems, we have a way to move forward."
She did not, however, commit any money for the groups Oppal wanted funded.
That had Dix back on his feet with a question comparing the inquiry to the BC Rail trial, where two former bureaucrats pled guilty to corruption charges, then had their $6-million legal bill picked up by taxpayers.
Batting around 'families first' slogan
"We've seen in previous matters -- in particular, in the BC Rail trial -- that there's funding sometimes for government insiders, $6 million worth of funding in that case for them to get access to justice," said Dix, before asking again for a commitment to fund the groups in the inquiry.
"The member knows the government is funding the families to be able to be heard at the commission, and we are making sure that as many voices as possible are heard before that commission," said Clark. "It seems to me to be our obligation to do that, and we're certainly living up to it, although it isn't required by law for us to do that."
Within a few sentences, she turned the answer to the "families first" theme she's held since entering the Liberal leadership race in December.
"We want to make sure that families have a lighter burden across the board," she said. "It's a little bit easier every day for families to put food on the table for their children, no matter where they find themselves across the province, whether that's in Salmon Arm, Prince Rupert, Atlin or the Downtown Eastside of the city of Vancouver."
"Putting families first isn't about words, it's about actions," said Dix, in a third attempt to get a commitment from Clark to fund the groups so they can be heard. "In this case, the actions are $6 million in funding for the defendants in the BC Rail trial... and to deny funding to the very groups that Wally Oppal has said should be funded."
The province has expanded the terms of reference for the commission, making it less formal, said Clark before launching into a list of things the government has done lately for families. The province is reviewing BC Hydro, looking at BC Ferries and stopped a plan for ICBC to charge a higher vehicle insurance rate to anyone who has had a traffic ticket, she said.
"And that's why we are lowering the HST by two points," she added. "We're going to make sure that every family in this province ends up ahead when it comes to taxes, and when you think about the total burden that government puts on families... I'd sure rather be supporting a 10 per cent tax than a 12 per cent tax."
'Premier didn't answer the questions': Dix
Most further questions were handled by Attorney General Barry Penner, though Clark responded to two questions on the same matter from former NDP leader Carole James (who, by the way, Global B.C. television and CKNW radio today incorrectly reported had told a news conference she was leaving politics. Noted Clark, "I am very glad that the rumours of her imminent demise are turning out to be untrue. She's provided a great voice for women in British Columbia.")
NDP Leader Adrian Dix: 'Putting families first is about actions.' Photo: Justin Langille.
Outside the house, Clark didn't disagree when reporters suggested she'd had an easy time in her return to question period.
"It certainly didn't have the cut and thrust of previous question periods I've been a part of, but I think that's a good thing," she said. "I don't think people really like seeing politicians yelling at each other all the time, so if that lasts I think it's great, because I think it's a great improvement."
As for the issue, she said she didn't see a need for "an endless supply of taxpayer-funded lawyers," considering how Oppal is running the inquiry. "In a less formal commission there's no reason they should require a lawyer necessarily to [be heard]," she said.
"I had hoped that the premier would agree with me and would agree with Mr. Oppal that that would be the case and we would make some progress on a really important issue that's central to British Columbians," said Dix.
"Apparently the government thinks it's okay to pay the legal fees for BC Liberal insiders who are convicted of corruption but not to support groups that are participating in that inquiry," he said. "I'm very disappointed in that, but that's what they are choosing to do."
The debate showed who the NDP represents and who the government represents, he added. The NDP raised serious questions and the premier responded by trivializing the issue, he said.
"I found when you ask serious questions on a specific subject, I thought the general responses and speeches from the premier were not appropriate to the occasion," he said. "The premier didn't answer the questions. The premier gave a long speech that had nothing to do with the questions asked, that apparently she'd been prepped for."
Asked if the opposition had chosen not to heckle today, Dix said, "When you are raising issues of that seriousness, and it was the premier's first day, I felt we needed to act consistent with that."
The Liberals have said they intend to end the legislative session on Thursday, June 2. Clark has said she plans to call an election before the 2013 fixed election date, with many speculating British Columbians could go to the polls as early as September. ![]()




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onthebay
51 weeks ago
apples to apples to apples and a few oranges
You know those jokes where it seems kind of funny at first and then reality sinks in and a person gets sad? That’s what happens when I read many of Christy’s comments . Can people ever really get ahead when it comes to taxes? The very nature of current taxation means people lose, not because we have to hand over ever increasing amounts, which would be fine if we saw it going to pay for the services we hope to have, but because the government seems to have little concern about peoples’ needs and concerns when they fork the money out in large spades to the things they do. It’s kind of like going to the grocery store to buy 12 oranges only to have the cashier open the bag, take out 10 of the oranges, throw in two potatoes (if you’re lucky), take your money and increase the profit already paid to the business, throw a little money at the foreign owned gas plant down the street, spend a little on the company lawyer and the propaganda machine, etc. As for comparing 12% HST to 10% HST, I would really like to compare apples to apples to apples. What’s the figures when 12% HST and 10% HST are compared to what we used to pay when it was 5% GST and 7% PST (but 7% was on fewer items that are now taxed)? The sad thing is, we are probably still being hosed, and if, miraculously, we aren’t being hosed, watch the myriad other ways government springs money out of our wallets start taking more and more of a bite.
Camero409
51 weeks ago
8 Days
4 in February and 4 more now? That's all we get to see what and how the LIbERal government is going to manage and run the province? I guess anything more and it will expose the LIbERalS for what they truly are, a party for the corporations and elite. Of course she won't want that revealed now would she.
I wish my employeer would have accepted answers as vague as the ones our supposidly supreme leader of the province gave yesterday. Was there an answer to any of the questions posed by Dix? I didn't see any.
DPL
51 weeks ago
Same old, same old BC
Same old, same old BC Liberal line except "heartland" in no longer in favor and replaced by"Families first". She is just as shallow a person as Gordo.
offended
51 weeks ago
onthe bay: 30% increase
in taxes paid since the introduction of the HST according to the Dinning Report (page 9).
Under the PST/GST regime, according to the report, the average family paid $1169 in PST/GST. Now they pay $350 more ($1519).
An increase of 30%.
But, question period wasn't about the HST. It was about the trivilization about funding for the Missing Womens' Inquiry by Clark responding to questions with talking points about (Rich) Families First and the HST.
The woman is cold.
Skywalker
51 weeks ago
A sign of things to come.
Adrian will keep asking questions that demand serious answers and Christy will continue to spew useless slogans and her favorite spin messages. What will the MSM do with it is the question?
greengreen
51 weeks ago
An outright lie
It is a "little bit easier every day for families to put food on the table for their children...(in) the downtown Eastside of the City of Vancouver.
This is an outright lie. More families and children are using food banks than ever before.
Let's not allow this rhetoric to go by as if we accept it. Call her on it!!!!
That smile is already stale.
puppyg
51 weeks ago
Nature of the beast
It will always be a con job from this lot. They can never tell it straight... a prize in every box, a lie in every sentence.
The good news is we don't have do deeper analysis to assess the merits of what Clark is putting out... always spin, ever a con.
cboo44
51 weeks ago
Even MORE Trough Feeders? No Thanks
The taxpayer is funding lawyers for the families. 'Nuff.
"Native groups" are ALREADY funded by ME, the taxpayer.
"Community groups in the DTE" are ALREADY funded by ME, the taxpayer.
MORE taxpayers dollars for MORE lawyers? FUGGEDABOUDIT !! BACK AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC TROUGH !
Skywalker
51 weeks ago
But cboo44
You are OK with the $6 million paid to Basi/Virk? I think if it was a choice between one or the other... well, that was the point.
G West
51 weeks ago
It's nowhere nearly that simple
In respect of First Nations Treaties, as Gary Mason and others have noted, the Native Bands may well have their bills come back and bite them in the ass.
You can read about THAT here:
http://tinyurl.com/3bux4hd
As Mason points out, "...Since 1993, the two governments have made $345.6-million in loans of varying amounts to 50 first nations."
morechatter
51 weeks ago
an about face
As Clark puts First families last and cboo44 is tired of picking up the tab and doesn't have a problem of anyone making mince meat out of their women.
Ramone
51 weeks ago
BC will buy into Clark's 'families first' nonsense
BC will buy into Clark's 'families first' nonsense and will vote to keep the HST.
I only hope voters will wise up and throw the Liberals out of office come election time.
morechatter
51 weeks ago
Fraser sees the problems
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Fraser+parting+challenge/4866304/story.html
Fish-counter
51 weeks ago
Snap call: Adrian Dix is another Dion/Ignatieff; a non-starter
The political parties keep selecting people with zero kerb appeal. The federal liberals and the provincial NDP don't seem to be able to muster behind a credible leader, which is too bad.
Clark has kerb appeal, and she can smile, even when she does an about-turn. You gotta love that.
John Greg
51 weeks ago
Fish-hooks said ...
"Clark has kerb appeal, and she can smile, even when she does an about-turn. You gotta love that."
You seem to have this really odd obsession with Clark smiling as though her smile means she's, I don't know, smart? honest? trustworthy?
If a smile is all it takes to impress you and gain your trust, well, gosh, there's an awful lot of used car sales clerks in Richmond who would just love to have you drop by.
And no, I definitely do NOT gotta love someone who smiles at me while she tells me lies and sells my franchise, my democracy, and my livelihood down the river.
sunshine coast girl
51 weeks ago
I think Fish Counter is creepy...
He really is fixated on Crusty's smile. Yup, definitely a pre-requisite to being a good leader.
Fish-counter
51 weeks ago
I think some people take this 'smiling' thing far too seriously
Have you ever heard of sarcasm? I think not.
They say the best way to get screwed is by a good hooker. First you get your brains screwed out, then you get screwed again when she lifts your wallet. I have to use my imagination, because I have never used a hooker, and never could.
The second-best way to get screwed is by a politician. No need for any imagination here at all. It happens every day. Get it? It is sarcasm.
zalm
51 weeks ago
Pretty bent, fishy
I'd have got the sarcasm if you'd gushed about Dix's smile....
Skywalker
51 weeks ago
Maybe fishcounter...
...you should leave sarcasm or satire to the experts.
cfvua
51 weeks ago
Dix is right
She won't stray from the script and with the abbreviated sessions her handlers will have time to choreograph and rehearse so when Dix starts throwing the hardballs, all she can do is avoid the question and change the subject. Election time should be interesting. Dix will chew her up and spit her out in any kind of serious debate or unchoreographed sales pitch.
And we get the point that it is all OK and family firsty to spend $ 6 Million to shut up a couple of loyal insiders who were following orders. Ask her more about BC Rail.
They probably aren't practicing those answers much.
RickW
51 weeks ago
greengreen
That is something the opposition party should be giving voice to, n'est pas?
zalm
51 weeks ago
Vaughn Palmer
...found something to laugh about today in the organizational ability of the Fiberals to put their leader front and centre, defending the indefensible.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Clark+first+legislative+session+premier+short+closure/4872489/story.html
G West
51 weeks ago
I especially liked Palmer's last para....
"One of the best speeches you've ever given," quipped one wag, who shall remain nameless. But it fell to Opposition leader Adrian Dix to get off the best line of the day. "It's not every day you bring in closure on yourself," he taunted the premier, underscoring a well earned comeuppance.
paisley
51 weeks ago
The Sickening truth
So Clark says that we are having a less formal commission run by Wally Oppal.
Oh I get it another commission/inquiry with no teeth. Then we have people worried about the cost of a couple more lawyers on the current tab of over $150 million.
The police and justice system have themselves 10-15 lawyers for the toothless Wally Oppal commission. The authorities need all the lawyers they can get to cover up their incompetence from the start.
Where else could one get a job and perform it with such stunning gross incompetence that allows people to be killed and not be held accountable what so ever( Running someone over in a car must be the other end of the spectrum).
The facts are:
The murderer had been arrested in 1997 and charged with attempted murder(charges stayed). His clothing contained the blood of three women, two of whom had already been reported and considered missing.
Authorities had even directed Crime Stoppers since 1994 to stake out and record license plate numbers coming and going from the murderer's property on an ongoing basis.
Kim Rossmo an internationally known profiler had requested the authorities to warn the public in 1998 that a serial killer was on the loose in the Vancouver area.
And it goes on and on.
The stench of the killing ground could only be out done by the stench of the authorities.
Demonstrable incompetence and probable political interference(those darn license plates)has become another paycheck for those that wouldn't want to be getting to "formal".