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How Your Canadian Pension Benefit Could Double
Plan's backers, including labour, see a safe, easy way to change the retirement horizon for younger Canadians.
Small payment increase, big gains.
Finding a New Pension Fix
- The RRSP Mirage
- How Your Canadian Pension Benefit Could Double
- Ignatieff's Path to Pension Reform
- Tories 'Not Discounting Any Option' on Pension Reform
- BC 'Leading' National Discussion on Fixing Pensions: Hansen
- Eroding Pensions, Political Flashpoints
- Canadians Confused about Paying for Retirement: Menzies
Retirement savings for a growing number of Canadians aren't panning out as hoped. Many of us are queasy to discover that high management fees and a volatile market have caused RRSPs to come up short (see part one of this series), clouding our dreams of comfortable golden years.
If that sounds like you, here's a fact that might add to your frustration. Had the Canadian Pension Plan taken from your pay cheque just 2.8 per cent more than it does now, you would have been guaranteed a pension twice as large as the one you're now on track to get.
The maximum would have jumped to $1,635 per month and it would be a sure thing for as long as you live. You would have been spared from ever having to fret over another breathless news report on the gyrating stock market. Queasy feeling gone.
That is the essence of a proposal by the Canadian Labour Congress (CLC) that is favoured by many pension experts for its simplicity, transparency and cost-effectiveness.
It could be instituted within weeks or months, and would instantly change the retirement horizons of younger Canadians.
Breaking it down
As resuscitated and refined by the CLC, the plan dovetails closely with a competing proposal put forward by Bernard Dussault, former chief actuary for the Canada Pension Plan. Dussault's Universal Pension Plan is endorsed by the Canadian Association of Retired Persons -- and even the Canadian Federation of Independent Business has argued for an expanded CPP; the lobby group sees it as a cost-effective alternative to the private pension plans its members feel pressured to offer.
Perhaps surprisingly, generating a near doubling of benefits would require premiums to rise by not much more than 50 per cent -- an extra 2.8 per cent of salary. That converts to such relatively large gains at retirement time for a couple of reasons.
One is that employers would match the increase all along with a similar-sized increase in contributions.
And CPP has a strong record for investment returns, primarily due to its enormous size and correspondingly tiny expense ratio.
"Through everything that's gone on, the Canada Pension Plan is the one thing that's held solid," says CLC economist Joel Harden.
When finance ministers meet in Whitehorse on December 17, the CLC plan will be vying with other ideas for strengthening Canadian pension policy.
CLC's selling points
Proponents of the CLC plan point to two clear differences with most of the other ideas:
It is a "defined benefit" plan rather than "defined contribution". The CLC plan guarantees the benefits you will receive upon retirement, rather than merely defining the contributions you will make during your work life and letting the market decide the yield upon your retirement.
It is mandatory, spreading the risks and sharing the rewards across the population.
"Neither you or I know how long we'll live," explains Andrew Jackson, chief economist at the CLC. "But with an RRSP, you have to save as if you are going to live until you are 90. What boosting the CPP plan does is pool the longevity risk over the whole population. Some people will live longer than others, but it all evens out and that makes it possible to define with certainty the benefits."
"The other big problem with saving on your own through RRSPs," argues Jackson, "is that private fund managers are taking 2.5 percent off top, while the management costs for CPP are about one half of one per cent. The difference over time is huge."
"The third thing wrong with RRSPs is when you retire and have to convert it into an annuity, the result is hugely dependent on interest rates, the stock market. How much you get out of it is a crap shoot."
Jackson also points out that, left to their own devices, people don't tend to save enough to secure their later years. Building up CPP, which is already mandatory, creates the biggest possible pool of contributors and insulates people from their worst financial instincts.
Too many eggs in one basket?
But one high profile pension reform thinker, Keith Ambachtsheer, director of the Rotman International Centre for Pension Management at the University of Toronto, questions the prudence of shifting so much of the country's pension future into a much smaller number of very large investment entities, as a simple expansion of the CPP would probably entail. He has also speculated that defined benefit plans, with their guaranteed payouts, could cause a shifting of resources from current and future workers to retirees, especially when investments turn sour, as recently occurred.
Ambachtsheer has proposed a national supplementary pension plan that would be voluntary and invested separately from CPP funds (more about this in the next story in this series).
Meanwhile, the financial services industry has an interest in preserving the prominence of the Registered Retirement Savings Plan, which does have some advantages over a pension plan, says Barbara Amsden of the Canadian Investment Funds Institute. The additional pay cheque deductions required to fund a pension plan would cause hardship for many Canadians, especially younger ones. In some jurisdictions, a pension fund balance can't be drawn on during hard times, as an RRSP investment can be and frequently is, she argues.
The objections of businesses that do not currently contribute to a private pension plan are another obstacle. Some argue they cannot afford the increase in payroll costs an enhanced CPP would entail.
Working poor, solid retirements
Any reform of Canada's pension system needs to deal with the inequities women suffer compared to men, argues Monica Townson, an independent economic policy expert who has studied the problem. Compared to men, women tend to earn much less, drop out of the work force for longer periods, have non-standard jobs, and live longer. As a result, the average monthly CPP payment today for women is just $340 -- less than 40 per cent of the maximum possible -- and the poverty rate among senior women living alone in Canada is 14 per cent. That's higher than the child poverty rate, but garners less public attention, Townson says.
Townson is a supporter of the CLC approach, which not only tops up CPP but strengthens GIS and OAS payments specifically targeted at lifting seniors out of poverty.
But what about younger people who don't make much? In tough economic times like these, is it fair to be skimming more from struggling families' incomes to finance far-off retirements?
To reduce the effect on low-income workers, the threshold at which payments become mandatory would be raised to $7,000 a year from $3,500. Increased OAS and GIS benefits would help compensate for the reduction in potential CPP payments.
Meanwhile, at the upper end, some advocates of an expanded CPP have proposed that the earnings eligibility ceiling be raised substantially from the current level, which is set at the average Canadian wage, currently $46,300. (It's worth noting that the ceiling in the U.S. is well over $100,000.) Dussault envisions combined CPP and Universal Pension Plan benefits as high as $160,000 a year. Increases to public-plan contribution and benefits levels of that magnitude would largely eliminate the role of RRSPs and private pension plans -- truly simplifying the task of saving for retirement.
'Not like socializing capitalism'
Andrew Jackson is not surprised the push for expanding CPP is gaining support from some leaders in business, or that B.C. finance minister Colin Hansen recently told the Tyee he would be fine with the CLC approach winning the day.
"As we gradually increase the Canada pension plan, employer-based pension plans would remain in place. As you ramped up CPP, the cost of funding employer pension plans would fall, so people would pay lower premiums or be able strengthen their plan. Removing some of burden of private plans to public plans makes sense," Jackson says.
"Don't forget, when doubling the CPP the actual funds that were being collected would be invested in private markets, equities, bonds," he adds. "It's not like we're talking about socializing capitalism. And it wouldn't cost the taxpayer a dime."
In a 2008 report for the C.D. Howe Institute, Ambachtsheer identified three critical elements that characterize an ideal retirement model. The formula should provide for adequate and affordable retirement payment schemes. There should be complete workforce coverage and job-to-job portability. And the system should be transparent and cost-effective, operating solely in the interests of those it was meant to serve.
Proponents of doubling CPP say their approach fits all those criteria. Jackson of the CLC identifies one more. "This is a way to effectively abolish poverty among the elderly which can be done at surprisingly low cost."
NEXT: Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff is the latest to get behind a voluntary, directed contribution supplement to CPP. ![]()





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OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Guaranteed Income
Why stop with the retired ?
The low-cost efficiencies of CPP/QPP have demonstrated the pragmatism of universal coverage without the moralistic maze of most social-welfare benefit programmes.
It's coming time to embrace some Red Tory policy ideas from 1969:
http://www.learnings.citizensincome.ca/2a2.html
Fair Pensions
2 years ago
Great Job on Series
This is an issue that needs to be discussed and brought to all Canadians.
The CLC did not tell us that if we diverted the money invested into the public sector employee plans all Canadians could double their CPP income.
Canadian have invested about 4 times more into public sector pension plans than we have into the CPP. All for the benefit of only 25% of the workforce who work for government.
Lets put all Canadians together into the same plan. No more pension elites in working for government.
Public Sector Reform is Needed:
* Full contributions to cost of pensions. Workers contribute about 25% of true costs.
* No early retirement. Many pensions start as early as age 50
* No double dipping. Triggering a pension and then returning to work for the government.
* Caps at $90,000 per year of pension income.
The CPP costs me 9.9% of my income as a self employed individual. For employees the 9.9% is split 50/50 with employers. CPP guarantees me 25% my income up to the YMPE or $46,000 per year. It is designed to start at age 65.
What is the cost of a public sector employee pension?
It pays 70% starting at age 50 or 55.
There is no limit on the salary it replaces. In Ontario there are over 53,000 on the Sunshine List earning over $100,000 per year. They get $70,000 in pensions that are worth a cash value of over $1 Million.
If all Canadians paid the same CPP could provide 50% of income replacement. The public sector has to give up their 20% to make it work.
http://www.eiu.com/index.asp?layout=iwArticleVW3&article_id=1742238759&page_title=Profile&rf=0
jwstewart
2 years ago
Here's the problem....
"They get $70,000 in pensions that are worth a cash value of over $1 Million"
The cash value of a $70,000 guaranteed pension, at current GIC rates, is probably over $3 million dollars. At no time did the public sector employee ever contribute anywhere near $3million dollars, (or even 25% of) to their pension, nor did their employer.
I'm guessing those public sector pensions are as unsustainable as corporate pensions. Maybe the Auditor General should investigate.
It doesn't add up.
David Beers
2 years ago
some paragraphs were dropped....
during the posting of this story last night. please check back midmorning to read a complete version.
Van Isle
2 years ago
Again, we have people
Again, we have people commenting on the civil service pension system that are stretching the truth. The only civil servants who make 70% are the ones who max out on their years of service which is 35 years. Also the civil servants who can retire at the age of 50 are the ones who have highly stressfull positions and high turn-over, like prison guards. The basic rule for civil service pensions is 2% of your earnings for every year that they have contributed to the pension plan. Also there's a magic number involved which is your age and years of service which have to add up to 85 or 90 depending what group you belonged to. The civil service pension system is completly different for the police and military personnel. They can get a pension after 20 years, but again, with limitations.
asp
2 years ago
Top up
Here's hoping that we will be able to top up our CPP contributions.
Des
2 years ago
Pensions
have to be different in order to take care of different classes of people. That is not the same as 'universal health care' in which everyone contributes taxes but not everyone requires neurosurgery or new limbs or medical devices of one kind or another.
Pension reform should eliminate from participation anyone whose income includes salary and/or bonus exceeds a pre-determined amount, varying with time or cost-of-living, etc.
People who can 'look after their own future' should be obliged to do just that.
frank2
2 years ago
I haven't seen mention of
I haven't seen mention of one issue: is it prudent to assume that future returns on CPP (and other pension funds for that matter) will be the same as past ones? Our world is running into severe limits on growth, and the returns associated with it. It may be that scope for improvements in "welfare" will depend less on more produced things, and more upon savouring experiences less intermediated by markets. Arithmetic and some degree of fairness internationally suggest that the material base avaiable to each of us will decline. This is not an argument against saving. It is an argument in favour of saving MORE than implied by past returns to secure material comforts equal to what are now provided.
I see no good reason for any contribution exclusions based on incomes, whether low, high, by young or old. Other parts of the tax expenditure system can handle poverty, without muddling pension policies.
I'm tired of the carping about public pensions. (Personal disclaimer: my whole work life was aborad and I receive no Canadian government pension or CPP.) When I graduated from university (several decades back), many of my cohort looked down their noses at folks who entered the public service instead of getting the much higher returns then widely available in the private sector. (The same applied even more in high school -- most of guys in my entering class left school for high paying jobs on the fish boats and in the forests before graduation.) Based on experience, some of us ended up doing better than others. Those who did badly may swear at their luck. But why blame those who had better luck? Surely, the best approach is to seek to avoid unpleasant outcomes to the extent possible.
HOw many 20-year-olds persons, myself included, gave any serious thought to pensions? Most of us couldn't imagine living to 40 years old (nuclear armaggeddon was the "intellectual" excuse for discounting the future at 100% in those days). Universal pension contributions from the start of work are one important measure for reducing adverse consequences of our own myopia.
This is not a dog-eat-dog world-- unless we choose to make it so. We can choose to be smarter than dogs (and with luck, at least equally lovable)
Des
2 years ago
Generally Speaking,
the lower the amount of the pension drawn by the recipient, the more acceptable it is to the public. A contribution system which draws progressively from higher incomes, and pays out less as those incomes increase, would appear to be 'unfair' but would elevate the living standards of ordinary employees on their retirement while allowing those who enjoy higher incomes to 'contribute' to whatever 'freedom 55' plan they prefer.
jwstewart
2 years ago
Frank - Carping will continue.
You can be tired of hearing all you want, but the civil servcice pensions are run worse than Nortels.
At least Nortel contributed some money to it's employees pension, most governments to not. They assume there will be perpetual economic growth that will allow them to fund the pension liability thru current account.
As you yourself have described, the Civil Service pensions cannot escape the limits to growth that will affect everything else.
Only when the governments are required to obey the same laws as companies will your civil service pensions be safe - fully funding them as they should.