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Olympics' Top Cop Helped Blow up Truck at Gustafsen Stand-off

RCMP's Bud Mercer was in the thick of several famous clashes with dissenters. This story, with video of the exploding truck, is first in a series.

By Geoff Dembicki and Bob Mackin, 20 Oct 2009, TheTyee.ca

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*Corrections made at 1 p.m., Oct. 20, and again at 5.30 p.m., Oct. 22.

Bud Mercer pictured rifles aimed at him as he pushed deeper into the forest. A short run behind him, past mid-sized poplars and aspens and scraggly bush, lay the smoking remains of a red pick-up truck, disabled minutes earlier by RCMP explosives. A yellow Labrador retriever was slumped close to it. Two police bullets had cut the dog down as it fled on the rutted gravel road. Mercer feared an ambush in the sparse forest. He strained the leash to keep Lukar, his German shepherd police dog, from running too fast. He was flanked by three other officers. The team squatted close to the forest floor every 12 metres, muscles tense. Within minutes, they broke through the bushes and onto the grassy shoreline of Gustafsen Lake. Mercer saw the two fugitives, stripped to their waists, wading into the water. He went to unclip Lukar, knowing the police dog would attack.

But before he could do it, buzzing, whining bullets ripped through the air above him. He hesitated.

On Sept. 11, 1995, up to 7,000 police gunshots climaxed a month-long standoff with natives in the backwoods of interior B.C. Fifteen people were convicted for their armed defence of sacred land they said was never ceded to Canadian settlers.

Mercer now commands a $491.9 million RCMP-led force, tasked with securing the 2010 Winter Olympics. He's a central figure in the biggest peace-time security operation in Canada's history. When athletes and officials arrive next February, many observers wonder if -- and how -- he'll unleash that force.*

Gustafsen Lake isn't the only high profile clash of law enforcement with dissenters where Bud Mercer played a key role. He was on the frontlines when APEC protesters were pepper-sprayed in 1997. And when tree-sitters tried to stop logging in the Elaho Valley in 2000, Mercer led a team to roust them from their perches. The Tyee and 24 Hours have researched these incidents, interviewing Mercer and many people involved, in order to provide a multi-part, in-depth portrait of the top cop of the 2010 Olympics -- his present duties and past controversies. The story starts 14 years ago, as a rebellion brewed in the Shuswap.

'Now they're gonna kill us'

On Aug. 18, 1995, Percy Rosette woke to the stamps and grunts of horses stirring in the morning mist. Normally that meant a wolf was nearby. He grabbed a hunting rifle, and went to see what was wrong.

Rosette was a Shuswap faithkeeper. That made him the caretaker of sorts for a few acres of sacred land at Gustafsen Lake, a remote piece of wilderness near 100 Mile House. Each year, Shuswap natives gathered there for a holy ceremony called the Sundance. A 70-year-old rancher named Lyle James owned the land, but an agreement with Rosette kept the peace. Yet the relationship collapsed early in the summer of 1995. The Sundancers were sick of cleaning up manure left by James' cattle, so they built a fence around the holy site. On June 14, 1995, James and 12 ranch hands served a trespass notice. They pulled up to the native encampment on horseback and 4X4's, threatening to hang a "red nigger," Gustafsen defence lawyer George Wool alleged. One cracked a bull whip. Another had a 30-30 Winchester rifle.

When they left, the natives surrounded their camp with defensive walls, made from hundreds of logs stacked about a metre and half high. More than two months passed in a standoff as native constables met with James and camp occupants to broker a deal.

Neither side would back down. Such was the state of affairs when Rosette rose early on August 18 to check on the camp horses. Rifle in hand, he scanned the forest carefully, trying to make out shapes in the low fog. He saw movement: Men dressed in camouflage, crawling on their stomachs through the woods. They were carrying big guns. "You have to sort of think that through," Wool said. "Because a few weeks earlier these redneck cowboys had been threatening the camp occupants. It appears the people in the camp interpreted this as being 'the rednecks are coming back and now they're gonna kill us.'"

Rosette aimed at the intruders, and fired.

'We see this as an act of terrorism'

The camouflaged men weren't cowboys, but an RCMP reconnaissance team, dressed in combat boots, camouflage pants and green vests. Four of them carried M-16 semi-automatics and one had a sniper rifle. The team fled, frightened, when a bullet whizzed over Constable Ray Wilby's head. Days later, 400 heavily armed RCMP officers laid siege to the native camp. Military helicopters criss-crossed the sky. Armoured personnel carriers (APCs) roughly double the height of an average person cruised the perimeter. It would become the largest paramilitary operation in B.C. history, a $5.5 million display of state-sanctioned might. "We won't just sit back and do nothing," Inspector Len Olfert of the Kamloops RCMP subdivision said at the time. "There has been an escalation; the threat is serious. We see this as an act of terrorism."

Bud Mercer arrived at Gustafsen Lake that August with almost 20 years experience on the force. He was accompanied by Lukar, a German shepherd trained to track the scent of people through city streets and forest. Mercer was a veteran dog handler on the Vancouver Emergency Response Team (ERT). He'd trained with Lukar since the dog was an 11-month-old puppy. In six years together, they'd responded to as many as 1,600 police calls. Mercer liked being a dog handler -- it put him right in the middle of the action.

On Sept. 10, 1995, he and Lukar were posted to a deeply rutted backcountry road just south of Gustafsen Lake. Mercer stood guard as his fellow ERT members sunk shovels and picks into the gravel road. His colleagues laid thin, rectangular sheets of explosives, which Mercer later compared to fruit rollups, in the hollow. The team shovelled gravel onto the ditch and stretched a wire from the buried explosives to the west side of the road. They had orders to disable a red pick-up truck -- used to shuttle firewood and water into the camp -- the next day. (Beyond identifying the truck as a "target of opportunity," it's not entirely clear why the RCMP gave the order to blow it up, though court documents suggest police knew it was used primarily to transport water.)

The ERT was expected to apprehend anyone inside the truck. Mercer and Lukar spent the night outdoors.

Police lay in wait

During the month-long standoff, the camp defendants expected the worst. They performed elaborate sweat lodge ceremonies to purify their bodies, minds and spirits. They fanned sticks of smouldering sage to rid themselves of negative energy. "The people in the camp wanted to prepare for the eventuality that something happened -- if there was an all-out shoot-out and maybe someone got killed," said Splitting the Sky (aka John Boncore), a Mohawk native who communicated often with his friends inside.

Food came from supporters on horseback, who knew how to enter the area undetected through secret backwoods trails. The natives also relied on a red pickup truck to get safe drinking water into their camp. At noon on Sept. 11, 1995, James Pitawanakwat and non-native supporter Suniva Bronson were spotted by the RCMP's "Eye in the Sky" -- a video-equipped airplane -- as they loaded water bottles into the back of the truck. They'd brought the camp dog along for the ride, a well-liked yellow Labrador retriever from the Kamloops SPCA.

When the truck-bed was full, they drove the pickup along a grassy track and turned left onto the main road. It was an older vehicle, and pretty banged up. Frequent trips in and out of the bush on bad country roads had chipped paint and left scratches across its red exterior. Mercer was crouched behind a log, about 30 paces from the buried explosives, when he got the "heads-up" over the police radio. Lukar was lying down beside him. He could hear the rumble of rubber tires on gravel as the truck approached the RCMP position.

The truck explodes

With a crushing boom that could be heard in the native encampment, the explosives went off. (Video below.) A cloud of dust, dirt and black smoke mushroomed dozens of metres above the poplars and aspens that fringed the road. On instructions from the explosives unit, Mercer lay on the ground for two seconds to let the air clear. But when he stood up, the air was so thick from dust and dirt he couldn't see. In that time, a dark-green APC the size of a tank rammed the disabled pickup, sending the terrified camp dog sprinting for safety.

RCMP officers fired two bullets into the yellow retriever's side, killing it by the side of the road. Mercer would later replay his memory of the explosion and the events that followed about a hundred times. The police radio buzzing like crazy. Two gunshots cracking somewhere in the cloud. The confusion of grey dust blending with bush and tree. After 30 seconds, the forest became visible again.

(There is some contention about what RCMP forces hoped to achieve with the roadside explosives. Respected police psychologist -- and former RCMP member -- Mike Webster characterized the explosives as an "early warning device." It was meant to provide a clear show of police force without harming the truck occupants, he argued. Gustafsen defence lawyer Wool and prominent natives such as Splitting the Sky think the RCMP acted recklessly, endangering lives in the process. They wonder why an APC rammed the truck, if police intent wasn't to harm the occupants.)

Mercer heard over the radio that the truck had been found empty, so he set off with Lukar and three ERT members into the woods. The sparse forest presented ideal tracking conditions. It was the kind of place where the RCMP would train a young dog. But wary of an ambush, Mercer didn't let Lukar run too fast, keeping a firm grip on his six-metre tracking line. The team soon stumbled upon a loaded banana clip, and then a set of gloves. Mercer felt as if they'd travelled a kilometre, but it was only a couple hundred metres. When the radio crackled that two weapons had been found in the red truck, the team went full tilt, breaking through the bushes and into a clearing on the shores of Gustafsen Lake.

Mercer hesitates

Mercer could see Pitawanakwat and Bronson wading out into the water. They had somehow survived the blast and escaped the disabled truck alive. He knew if he unclipped Lukar, the dog would attack one of them. He decided to do it. But as bullets began to land all around him, he dropped to the ground with the rest of the RCMP team. They were in swampy terrain, patched with knee-high grass and not adequate cover for the hunting rifles pointed at them from across the lake.

Mercer sensed their lives were in danger. He kept Lukar clipped to the leash while the team retreated back to the tree-line and crouched behind some logs. From there, they saw an APC pull onto the shoreline directly behind the two fugitives. The hatch opened and Corporal George Preston emerged, aiming his rifle at Pitawanakwat and Bronson, then firing two shots into the water beside them. He ordered them to put their hands up and move towards the shore. But when bullets started slamming into the APC, Preston ducked back inside.

Mercer was some 23 metres west of the shore. He carried a 9mm handgun yet stayed out of the action because he was too busy keeping a handle on Lukar.* The dog was so agitated from all the gunfire it was trying to attack fellow ERT members. During the next three hours, RCMP forces fired up to 7,000 shots, according to their own estimates.

The battle ended in stalemate. Suniva Bronson suffered the only injury, a bullet in her arm. Six days later, the camp occupants surrendered.

'A very legally volatile situation'

During the ensuing 10 month trial, the 18 defendants -- and their supporters -- invoked the 1763 Royal Proclamation, an elusive piece of legislation meant to protect native lands from settler encroachment. They claimed the Shuswap nation had never negotiated binding treaties. The rancher James said the Sundance site was his, because he'd paid for it.

The ramifications of the native position were huge. "In terms of what motivated government and RCMP action, the decision-making on those things was driven by trying to keep control of a very legally volatile situation," said Janice Switlo, a legal advisor who wrote a comprehensive account of the standoff. As the trial came to a close, 15 defendants were convicted of charges ranging from mischief to property to weapons possession, but many of the more serious accusations were dropped.

Not long after the standoff, Mercer had to retire Lukar. In 1991, the dog had suffered a severe injury while on assignment in northern Alberta. Mercer had sent Lukar after an armed man who'd just murdered his wife. The man smashed his rifle on Lukar's head so hard the gun broke in half, each piece dangling from its sling. The German Shepherd's neck cracked in several places. He survived, but would never fully recover from a damaged spinal cord.

As the wound calcified over the years, Lukar began to limp on both front paws. Mercer forced him into early retirement after Gustafsen Lake. Yet the two didn't part.

"I kept Lukar as a pet, which was a little different," the Olympics security boss told The Tyee and 24 hours. "I couldn't give him up. He stayed with the family until he was 11 or 12."  

Gustafsen Lake 'the worst case scenario'

Fourteen years after the standoff at Gustafsen Lake, the events of Sept. 11, 1995 still resonate deeply for some members of B.C.'s native community. United Native Nations president-elect David Dennis pointed fingers at Mercer last month during an Olympics and civil liberties forum in Vancouver. It's concerning, he said, that the same RCMP officer who stood by as a red truck exploded now leads Games security.

Those fears hold strong for Splitting the Sky. He hurled invectives at Mercer during a recent Tyee interview, claiming the Gustafsen Lake connection is becoming well-known in B.C.'s native community. "Word is going around, that's for sure," he said.

Defence lawyer Wool also views the events of summer 1995 as an injustice. But he doesn't think individual officers such as Mercer should be singled out. "He was a dog handler back in 1995," Wool said. "He was there because he was told to be there."

Switlo agreed. Yet Canadians must still remember the standoff as an alarming misuse of RCMP force, she said. "It's the worst case scenario: How not to handle matters that become difficult between indigenous nations and Canadians." The kind of situation that can be a learning experience for the law enforcement officials who were there. What lessons they take away aren't revealed until the next time they find themselves in similar circumstances.

Tomorrow: Bud Mercer's job description for the 2010 Olympics.  [Tyee]

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  • poetician

    2 years ago

    What does it mean to be a guest?

    Just what we need, a shoot first ask questions later type to head up security. He'll be a good leader for the hob-nailed boot in the door crowd who will continue to harass the citizenry in order to "protect" the Olympic elite from my Constitutional right to free expression.

    As soon as they start coming in though my computer screen the cycle will be complete and we will have a true pixel-nacht.

    It's generally accepted that when guests come over for a visit they take their shoes off at the door and bring flowers and wine for the hosts. As far as the Olympicians[sic] are concerned, we the hosts are to provide them with laurels not flowers and we, the hosts, are expected to undress and bend over, no whining.

    Its starting to feel like a bunch of old skool rock stars are coming, and it's our hotel room they've chosen to trash, although from their perspective, they think they're doing us a favour... you know, making us more worldly, less parochial.

  • stimulator

    2 years ago

    The headline should read...

    "Olympic cop supports violent policing" that is if we follow the CBC's logic.
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/10/13/bc-olympic-violent-resister.html

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    Follow the Money

    The Royal Proclamation was never devised "to protect native lands from settler encroachment" but to protect the lucrative fur industry profits of the Hudson Bay Company of which the British Crown were large shareholders through limiting the western expansion of the thirteen original US colonies to the east of the Appalachians and some say that this, rather than the issue of taxation, was the real cause of the American Revolution.

    On the subject of following the money, it is fairly well-known that Suniva Bronson's mother Anne Davison Bronson Notnes funded the Sundancers and BC native sovereignty movements in general.

    Anne Bronson Notnes herself owns large tracts of "native land" in BC and Alberta and is the granddaughter of Henry Pomeroy Davison, the senior partner of JP Morgan who, in 1910, was a participant in the secretive meeting on Jekyll Island, Georgia that led to the creation of the US Federal Reserve in defiance of the US Constitution.

    An essay that appears online in Yale Alumni Magazine states that Davison was the banker that secured the loans that financed the British and French government’s war efforts and referred to World War I as “the Davison family business.” Davison was accused by American isolationists of having engineered the sinking of the Luisitania in order to draw the U.S. into the war. Once this aim was accomplished, Davison took leave from the banking firm and concentrated his efforts on doing "humanitarian" work directing the American Red Cross in Europe. And, according to research done by Eustace Mullins, finanacing Trotsky's Red Army through funds channelled through the US Red Cross that paved the way for the mass murder and enslavement of tens of millions of Russians, Ukranians and other nationalities, some of whom have disappeared off of the face of the earth forever.

    Suniva Bronson left the camp pregnant by named James Pitawanakwat who is now the only Canadian ever to have been granted political asylum in the U.S.

    Good connections, yes. Anne's uncle F. Trubee Davison was at one time Personnel Director for the CIA. Maybe they are trying to make up for that nasty Skull and Bones incident Geronimo's relatives are still trying to settle:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29265600/

  • OhCanada

    2 years ago

    No surprise here

    Birds of a feather flock together. Don't be surprised of the choice - protect the image - at all cost.

    It takes intelligence to understand that the more blocks and walls an authority put up for 'protection' of themselves the more pounding on the wall they are going to get.

    Make no mistake about this. The wall of communism came down eventually as well.

    People are not stupid.

    You can hire a drill sergeant with a gun or you can hire a true humanitarian person who understands both sides and have the human intelligence and compassion for everyone involved.

    Sadly, in this case only a drill sergeant will do.

    It will take time and intelligence for humans to understand the issues an Olympic game brings up in a society. We are not there yet as far as intellectual growth in our species concerned.

  • frank2

    2 years ago

    The UTube footage of the

    The UTube footage of the RCMP setting off a road side bomb on an occupied vehicle was shocking. How does the RCMP feel when Canadian forces characterise roadside bombers as cowards.

  • Camero409

    2 years ago

    Terrorists

    Well isn't that just ducky. We hire a terrorist to keep us safe from terrorists. I think that's appropriate in this police state we call Canada. This jerk wouldn't know a real terrorist if one slapped him in the face.

  • DPL

    2 years ago

    The RCMP were known for

    The RCMP were known for buring down a barn in quebec many years ago. So they are going upscale and blowing up trucks. They keep busy when they arn't shooting people or doing their thing with Tazers. Too bad BC keeps hiring them to be the local police force

  • Ernest Black

    2 years ago

    "People are not stupid.

    "People are not stupid. "

    Sorry I cannot agree with you. Look at what we do over and over again, and whom we continue to vote for, and you may wish to change that statement. Otherwise, well said.

    We do not need confrontation, pickets etc. Just hurt them where it hurts the most.

    Boycott the Olyripoff. Boycott all sponsors. Start a world movement to shut the elite corporate greed DOWN. Some will not care and will participate regardless, but if a large number join the mind set, then bye-bye. If athletes were to choose to NOT participate? Some jocks actually do have brains and ethics, although apparently rare.

    Perfectly legal, non-violent, and enormously effective. Just stand up for our human and charter rights and let the world join us!

    Oh, wait a minute, that's what's scaring them!

  • cboo44

    2 years ago

    Quite the hatchet Job

    Pure fiction. To be eaten up by the urban yuppies who don't know any better. Even the video alleging a so-called "roadside bomb". It was a "thunder-flash" to disable the ARMED AND SHOOTING occupants of that vehicle. Purely a sound effects device. Funny, no mention of the ambush and attempted murder of two officers, no mention of the assault of Rancher Lyle James when he went to talk. No mention of the ranch hands annual cleanup of the grounds, clearing broken bottles, scattered trash and human waste from the area. No mention of the seizure of deeded land after an extended, drug-induced party. No mention that the whole "ceremony" was fake, mythical nonsense imported from the plains Indians in the U.S.
    Drivel for the ignorant to lap up.

  • BC Mary

    2 years ago

    Take it with a grain of salt ...

    I was in Australia during the time when Gustafsen Lake was in the news, so I don't know very much about the issue except that Ujjal Dosanjh was the BC Attorney General at the time, and played a very poor hand I thought (when reading about it later).

    However, I do know that the Gustafsen Lake story never died down. So today, I urged someone who knows the issue well, to read The Tyee story and to make a comment. Robin Mathews, is busy elsewhere, but he gave me permission to post what he said to me (because I think it's important):

    Dear Mary. I hate like mad to say this is Tyee Journalism. Just as a preamble, I know Splitting the Sky, Wolverine, (both lightly), Tony Hall who did the investigation with another to find that Peter Montague lied to CBC to get air time to falsify the situation at Gustafsen, etc. etc. And Montague was major, after Gustafsen Lake, in the "investigation" of Glen Clark. (It was he, almost certainly, who set up the TV film crew to arrive with the police doing the search warrant raid on Glen Clark's house.)

    The story as told by Tyee is junk, by me. What's all the stuff about a dog?? when not 7000 rounds of ammunition were fired by police but something like 70,000. The native people flatly deny the whole story about them lying in the woods and showering police with bullets. They say NONE. RCMP cordonned a huge area off, refused to let press in, and using devices like the Montague story above, fabricated a whole huge pack of lies. The journalist for Tyee went to one of those officers for the REAL story.

    The great book on the matter is by Splitting the Sky and he loads it with documentary information. I got into it through Tony Hall, a prof specialist on Native Studies and writer of the huge and important book on American Imperialism and the Fourth World. He is pretty reliable, Tony is, and so I could screen all the rest through him ...

    (continued next posting) ....

  • BC Mary

    2 years ago

    (continued)

    Into that mix you may remember came the enigmatic Bruce Clark who ... is also remarkable, having written two or three very good books on the law and the Native Peoples. He began his career by fighting for them in Ontario.

    Take that [Tyee] piece however you want, but please take it with a grain of salt.

    Robin Mathews

    Robin Mathews was born in Smithers, B.C. and studied at UBC, Ohio State University, and U. of T. He has taught at the University of Alberta, UBC, U. of T., Leeds University, Carleton University, and SFU. He was also a founder of the Great Canadian Theatre Company, the Association for Canadian and Quebec Literatures, and the National Party of Canada (1979). Presently, he is doing writing, a little teaching, and research. He wrote, among other works:

    The Struggle for Canadian Universities. with James A. Steele, 1969.
    _________________________________________________

    And another knowledgeable historian, barred from The Tyee site I believe, is Skookum1 who says:

    James' name was spelled Lyall, not Lyle, and the article doesn't say that he was a Montanan who had donated to the Social Credit Party and received his lease in the area via the new Forests Act of 1976, which converted Government Reserve into grazing leases and TFLs/TSAs etc.....many of his cowboys were Montanan too....he also didn't own the land, it was a grazing lease only SFAIK

    Eerily reminiscent, though, of the defamation of [Former Victoria Police Chief, Paul] Battershill, though much more serious and real of course; sure to provide ammo for anyone wishing to point at abuses of human rights in BC during the Olympics...all the more so if there are instances of police violence during same .....
    _________________________________________________

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    The Road to Hell

    As far as I know, Lyall James plunked down a substantial amount of money and did own the land the Gustafsen Lake Sundance Arbor was built on but it's true that this was not a traditional Secwepemc ceremony but adopted from US Plains Indians, the result of a process dubbed pan-Indianism. And if much is made of the fact that James is American, so are Bronson and Splitting the Sky.

    The yellow lab shot and killed by the RCMP was not "the camp dog" but in the care of Bronson and actually belonged to the boyfriend she dumped for Pitawanakwat.

    I attended the RCMP press conference on Sept 11, 1995 in 100 Mile House and a number of others and it's true, Montague did lie and, with the full cooperation of the media, a smear campaign was launched against the people in the camp and Bruce Clark.

    But I disagree with the false dichotomy that has RCMP all bad and plucky natives fighting for control of BC all good. It's true that police brutality long been an issue and that Ujjal Dosanjh and the RCMP over-reacted to the situation and could have just as easily handled with it one or two officers sitting at a road barricade but despite that, I do agree with Dosanjh that there is only one law for all Canadians and unceded traditional native territorities or not, modern British Columbia does exist and is now the home and native land of peoples originally from all over the world and not just from Secwepemc.

  • Matt T.

    2 years ago

    Bruce Clark?

    That certainly brings back memories. What a LOON!

    Quote:
    Bruce Clark is a bombastic white lawyer who had developed a notorious reputation for himself among Native lawyers and the mainstream Native leadership that was equalled only by his cultlike following among certain groups of Native "dissidents" and white "radicals" across Canada.

    Quote:
    He has been known to accuse judges of treason and genocide. He routinely engages in courtroom outbursts. He has also lost case after case, failing, time and again, to advance his aboriginal-rights theories, which involve peculiar assertions of Native sovereignty and Native immunity from law-enforcement.

    Rational? I think not. Didn't he flee Canada?

  • OilbertaRedTory

    2 years ago

    Calling Loons

    http://www.sgib.ca/index_files/Page1484.htm

    From the Constitution of Canada :
    [Charter of Rights and Freedoms]

    Aboriginal rights and freedoms not affected by Charter

    25. The guarantee in this Charter of certain rights and freedoms shall not be construed so as to abrogate or derogate from any aboriginal, treaty or other rights or freedoms that pertain to the aboriginal peoples of Canada including
    (a) any rights or freedoms that have been recognized by the Royal Proclamation of October 7, 1763; and
    (b) any rights or freedoms that now exist by way of land claims agreements or may be so acquired.(94)

    http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/9.html#anchorsc:7-bo-ga:l_I

    When more citizens (and police) bother to 'stand on guard' for Canada's constitutional foundations we can build our home 'on' native land; true north strong and free.

    Maintiens le Droit.

    Protégera nos foyers et nos droits.

  • Chris Keam

    2 years ago

    Imported religions

    "No mention that the whole "ceremony" was fake, mythical nonsense imported from the plains Indians in the U.S. "

    Many Canadians worship at the ROMAN Catholic Church, the ANGLICAN church, the GREEK Orthodox church, etc. Why can't natives import the ceremonies that resonate for them?

  • driftwolf

    2 years ago

    As then, so it is now, it's

    As then, so it is now, it's "our home, their native land".

    Harper claiming that Canada doesn't have a history of colonialism is a joke, given the continuing stories Canada has with armed Canadian government troops continuing to take away land and prerogatives that belong to First Nations. With a Canadian government that continues to impose, by force, an apartheid piece of racist legislation called the Indian Act, then uses that act to deny treaty and other rights to First Nations peoples.

    I see they've chosen their security chief well. He's well used to denying people basic human rights, let along used to playing fast and loose with the Charter and all those other pretty words that should be getting in the way of governments trampling on people.

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    Back to the Stone Age

    That settles it then. The rest of us can either stay here as slaves, leave our homes and go back to Europe (even if we were born here) or pull back to the treatied areas of BC, the northeast and southern Vancouver Island, where they signed ahead of the war brewing in the Fraser Canyon between American miners and the locals (while the US Calvary waited across the border for the first shot) in order to be protected from the traditional depredations and slave-taking of the Haida.

    The First Nations of this country can then go back to the perfect pure indigenous existence they enjoyed pre-contact divesting themselves of all carbon-burning modern conveniences that have been imposed on them by oppressive settler society and go back to wearing cedar bark and using hand-chipped stone tools as their only technology.

    There is a really lovely country in the Middle East we can learn from where they set the precedent for the resurrection of traditional tribal homelands.

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    Nobody Owns the Earth.

    You know what resonates with me, Chris Keam?

    The sacred medicine wheel. All four races, balanced in harmony.

    Where does it come from? Quien sabe. Nobody knows.

  • mikev

    2 years ago

    Janie, wow?

    If the choice is between our status quo and what you describe above, then no wonder some people are so flaming racist! Too bad we don't have more than those two options...

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

    History shows time and again, when different peoples claim the same country, they either live together in peace as equals or they go to war.

    Which might actually be the point of all this.

  • G West

    2 years ago

    War ...or Colonialism

    Smells the same to me

  • Chris Keam

    2 years ago

    Property rights and technology are two separate issues.

    "The First Nations of this country can then go back to the perfect pure indigenous existence they enjoyed pre-contact divesting themselves of all carbon-burning modern conveniences that have been imposed on them by oppressive settler society and go back to wearing cedar bark and using hand-chipped stone tools as their only technology"

    This is another false dilemma. Asserting property rights or disputing past actions doesn't mean one has to live in the way ones' forefathers did. Using this argument one would have to show up in court wearing bell-bottoms and love beads to prosecute a murder from the 70s.

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    Don't think it can't happen here.

    Come on. It's called intellectual property. Cultural expropriation. Copyright infringement. What have you.

    Look at the facts. Ten thousand years living in harmony with Creation (en Dios - the true meaning of the word Indian; at the time of Columbus, India was actually called Hindustan) with no appreciable technological advances. Two hundred odd years after Europeans showed up, the sky's the limit.

    Historically, the Lil'wat were in a constant state of war with their neighbours, the Squamish, the Sto'lo and the Chilcotin. It wasn't colonialism that brought them that. If anything, colonialism has brought peace.

    If they own the land, we own the highways, the hospitals, the schools, the 4x4s, electricity, bathrooms, you name it. We always here about they have lost and never anything about what's been gained.

    Indigenous rights are enshrined into the Canadian constution but the constitutional challenge mounted by Nisga'a hereditary Chief Mountain proved that First Nations people are Canadians and the same charter also says that as Canadians, we are entitled to equal rights and protection so there's a bit of a contradiction there that needs to be challenged in court.

    I agree, BC First Nations do own BC, they own it because they are British Columbians like everyone else and in the name of the once upon a time when they had it all to themselves, everyone seems to think we have to disenfranchise 95% of BC's current population from the crown lands and resources of this province and footing the bill for compensation for anything that can't be returned. That's the UN deal.

    The Treaty Process is dead. The New Relationship has been rejected at the recent Chiefs' Totem Hall bash in Squamish now that the $100 million they took to implement it has been spent. What's on the table now is still the best looking piece of real estate on the planet and the boys behind the curtain are drooling in anticipation because once First Nations get it,it can be bought and sold. The In-shuk-ch Treaty has yet to be signed and they've already sold half of Tsek. Prime fir is rolling out of the Elaho and it's business as usual.

    The rest of us? Well, we've just lost our country. Justice or just another one of history's tragedies?

  • VivianLea Doubt

    2 years ago

    for shame

    United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour hailed today's adoption by the General Assembly of the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples calling it "a triumph for justice and human dignity".

    Bolivia has become the first country to approve the U.N. declaration of indigenous rights. Evo Morales, President of Bolivia, stated, "We are the first country to turn this declaration into a law and that is important, brothers and sisters. We recognize and salute the work of our representatives. But if we were to remember the indigenous fight clearly, many of us who are sensitive would end up crying in remembering the discrimination, the scorn."

    Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon described it as a "historic moment when UN Member States and indigenous peoples have reconciled with their painful histories and are resolved to move forward together on the path of human rights, justice and development for all.

    Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development Chuck Strahl described the document as "unworkable in a Western democracy under a constitutional government." Strahl elaborated, saying "In Canada, you are balancing individual rights vs. collective rights, and (this) document ... has none of that. By signing on, you default to this document by saying that the only rights in play here are the rights of the First Nations. And, of course, in Canada, that's inconsistent with our constitution." He gave an example: "In Canada ... you negotiate on this ... because (native rights) don't trump all other rights in the country. You need also to consider the people who have sometimes also lived on those lands for two or three hundred years, and have hunted and fished alongside the First Nations."

    And Amnesty International Canada weighs in:

    On May 1, 2008, a group of more than 100 Canadian lawyers, scholars and other experts published an open letter that described the government's claims as "erroneous" and "misleading". The 101 experts characterized the Declaration as "consistent with the Canadian Constitution and Charter" and "profoundly important for fulfilling their promise."

    The reader might be invited to compare the language here: the language of “justice” and “human dignity” versus the language of “property rights” used by the minister. Make no mistake about it, the police state is always about the protection of property…or at least, the property of some. It will clearly be up to citizens to demonstrate that other values ought trump those of “property”.

    Oh, and thanks, Chris Keam in particular.

  • Chris Keam

    2 years ago

    Janie Jones

    "Historically, the Lil'wat were in a constant state of war with their neighbours, the Squamish, the Sto'lo and the Chilcotin. It wasn't colonialism that brought them that. If anything, colonialism has brought peace."

    If native people are just as Canadian as the rest of Janie, then they are at war just as we are and they've been at war every time Canada chose sides in other conflicts that have preceded the current battles against the Taliban. All that's happened is the bodies get shipped home from a different place.

    Would you permit me to expropriate your home just because I agreed to pave the driveway?

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    Conventional Wisdom

    Whatever is going on in Afghanistan, the war is not yet here in BC and certainly, there are native vets, Frank Gott in WW1 and Middle East peacekeeper David Ahenakew are two I can think of off the top of my head.

    Your analogy is a little lame CK, what is the corollary? That otherwise, you would do it for free?

    Would you permit a tiny percentage of Canadians to expropriate BC just because they have a status number? And once they are awarded BC by the United Nations what about the other native nations in Canada? As Canadidan indigenous people should they get anything less. Then we can enshrine it law, like Boliva.

    BC First Nations they no longer live "en Dios" like their indigenous ancestors did so I guess that's why they no longer get called Indians. Just another example of something everyone believes is true that actually isn't.

    It's okay, I'm used to being out of step with conventional wisdom but it's always about property. It's been called justice, religion patriotism but it's always about land and resources. And the love of money.

  • Chris Keam

    2 years ago

    "Your analogy is a little

    "Your analogy is a little lame CK, what is the corollary? That otherwise, you would do it for free?"

    My point is that you seem to be suggesting that natives should forget about the past because they have the 'benefit' of all the mod-cons and 'improvements' to their land brought by Europeans.

    Here's another way to think about it. Would you turn over the deed of your house to burglars just because they brought along a new plasma tv for you to watch in the rec room to which you and yours have been banished? How many years of that living arrangement would it take to erase the original confiscation?

  • Chris Keam

    2 years ago

    conventional wisdom

    "It's okay, I'm used to being out of step with conventional wisdom "

    It seems to me you're expressing the conventional wisdom.. that indigenous people should be thankful for what Europe brought to them.

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    Just passing through.

    Alas I am a mere tenant myself. No stolen land deeds here.

    And its actually my First Nations neighbours that have the new plasma TV and rec room and, although nobody's forcing them, they seem to spend a lot of time in there watching it.

    I am suggesting that history is one long sad story after another for a lot of people including many of the people who were drawn to New Caledonia and worked like dogs to build homes that are now owned by tribal chiefdoms. I'm not suggesting that anyone forget the past, we all knows what happens when we do that. I am suggesting that the original indigenous peoples of Canada are modern Canadians, cops and grocery clerks, firefighters and contractors and now share this magnificent country with generations of non-status natives and more recent arrivals from all over the world.

    From what I understand, having gratitude is the first plank in the law of attraction, so maybe it wouldn't hurt.

  • Cyber Seklep

    2 years ago

    September 11, 1995

    www.myspace.com/cyberseklep

    **********************************************

    SEPTEMBER 11th

    **********************************************

    September 11, 2001 - terror this, terror that - al queda, bin laden, wmd's, blah blah blah

    I remember a different September 11th

    I Remember ...

    September 11, 1995 @ Tspeten, Secwepemculecw

    Gustafsen Lake, british columbia

    30 Miles over the hill as the crow flies from where I was born and raised ...

    "SOVEREIGNTISTS NOT TERRORISTS !" came the word from the Lake ...

    oh yeah, The RCMP / FBI Psychologist Mike Webster from Denman Island ( fresh from Waco, Texas in '93 via Quantico, Virginia and later on to Lima, Peru in '97 ), on BCTV

    Something about this being a psychological war ...

    and ever since then, a heavy dose of low intensity warfare tactics ...

    the worst kind of the f.b.i.

    Our own Secwepemc D.I.A. People try to sweep it under the carpet ...

    ...they try to make us feel bad about knowing and documenting our nation's history of resistance ...

    Can't, won't, can't, won't ......

    forget ...

    The RCMP orchestrated a genocide that day when they moved 400 RCMP and Canadian Armed Forces personell and their 8 United Nations APC's into our Secwepemculecw Territory and, BY THIER OWN ADMISSIONS IN COURT, willfully proceeded to discharge in excess of 77,000 M - 16 and .50 Calibre bullets at 21 Defenders...

    In an hour and a half...

    My Mohawk Brother ( Sargent ) said it was snowing tree fibres around him...

    Could you ever imagine it snowing tree fibres around you from RCMP ERT gunfire ?

    Can't forget being at the province - wide ' DIA - Chiefs ' meeting in Merritt that day

    then waiting in Clinton that fateful afternoon,

    waiting to go in the Black Dome Mine road,

    Waiting...

    Waiting for orders

    ...individually preparing ....

    Being told that we had to be strong, no matter what

    finally heading to 100 Mile House after that ...

    September 11, 1995 - 10 pm PST Press Conference

    Sgt Peter Montague with that shiny triangle of sweat on the left side of his nose ...

    ...corporal John Ward standing there with a piece of paper

    shaking

    ... visibly shaking in his hand

    SCARED. Those cops were scared. SCARED of the spiritual power of our people in the camp.

    Remember watching the Shuswap D.I.A. sellouts and the RCMP lying...

    lying their asses off

    "...RCMP ( SHUSWAP / SECWEPEMC ? ) Smear Campiagns Are Our Specialty"

    They even admitted their " ( SHUSWAP / SECWEPEMC ? ) SMEAR CAMPAIGNS " on videotape...

    Worst of all, they testified in court to having operational planning in place as early as May 1995 ...

    ...operational planning to remove Secwepemc People from their homelands.

    operational planning with many diffferent levels of force being used

    With a worst case scenario of September 11.

    can't, won't, can't, won't

    ... FORGET

    cyber.seklep@gmail.com

  • geoffdembicki

    2 years ago

    questions raised

    Hello everyone,

    I helped report and write this story. Questions in the comment section have been raised about the veracity of certain facts. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone for their input. One of the benefits of online journalism is that reporters can be held accountable by their readers. I’d like to offer a polite rebuttal to some of points you’ve raised.
    Robin Mathews says 70,000 shots were fired by police, not 7,000. I did stumble across the higher figure in my research. But I chose to rely on police estimates, and this is noted in the story. Also, the 7,000 figure was mentioned in an interview by Gustafsen Defence lawyer George Wool. Mathews says natives deny hiding in the woods and shooting at police. He then recommends the book by Splitting the Sky as an authority on the matter. I spoke to Splitting the Sky for this story. He said he’d instructed the camp inhabitants to shoot over the heads of police as a form of defence. This is consistent with Mercer’s court testimony, which paints a picture of bullets flying through the trees above him.
    Skookum1 points out that James’ name was spelled Lyall, not Lyle. That may be the case, but every resource I came across – including the Canadian Encyclopedia and Gustafsen Court Documents – use the “Lyle” spelling. Janie Jones argues that the Yellow Labrador Retriever was not the “camp dog.” That information came from my interview with Splitting the Sky, who said it was fair to refer to the canine that way.
    And finally, cboo44 disputes that the RCMP explosives were intended to damage the truck or harm the occupants. This is a point of some contention. Defence lawyer Wool and many natives view the explosion as an aggressive and dangerous attack. And in the video, the APC rams the truck after it has been disabled. Meanwhile, RCMP forces argue the explosives were meant to show police force without harming the truck occupants. It’s a complex and nuanced argument on either side. And unfortunately, one that I did not address. So thanks for your input!

  • Janie Jones

    2 years ago

    Lest We Forget

    September 11, 1973
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A716591

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