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What? Every Candidate Agrees?

In Vancouver almost all say it's time to fix the way we finance and elect candidates.

By Vanessa Richmond, 17 Nov 2005, TheTyee.ca

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Think City Society asked all candidates running in Vancouver's municipal elections to complete their 2005 Vancouver Civic Election Survey.

Fifty-two candidates completed the survey. Kristin Foster of Think City reports that of the eleven questions sent to each candidate, "campaign spending limits received almost unanimous approval. Candidates surveyed also supported more stringent election finance disclosure, participatory city budgeting, and the abolition of the at-large system.

Candidates differed on other democratic reforms including mandating multilingual ballots, direct election of Greater Vancouver Regional Directors, and a return to door-to-door voter registration."

Some respondents chose to answer simply "yes" or "no" to the questions, but several gave written answers. What follows are excerpts from those written answers.

Question 1: Local political parties should disclose donor lists between elections.

"Yes: This is the bare minimum that a political party could do to be transparent." Ben West, Work Less Party candidate for Vancouver Mayor.

"Citizens should have whole story on where a party's funds come from." Fred Bass, current city councillor, and COPE candidate for Vancouver City Council.

"All election contributions should be open and transparent. How has COPE got away with breaking the law by not disclosing who financed the 2002 campaign?" Peter Ladner, current city councilor, NPA candidate for Vancouver City Council.

"Financial election reform is crucial and I think it should actually have been a priority before attempting to bring in wards." Jane Bouey, School Trustee, COPE candidate for Vancouver School Board.

"Yes! Transparency in who contributes to a campaign is essential for democracy to work. Without it, we have no idea if political favours are being returned for campaign contributions." Mel Lehan, COPE candidate for Vancouver Park Board.

Question 4: The at-large system should be replaced by another electoral system.

"Yes! The at-large system has many flaws. Chief among them being that the better-educated and wealthier citizens on the west side of the city have a voting pattern that is entirely too dominating for a democratic process to flourish. That is, they have a much higher turnout than the east side and therefore dominate who gets elected.

Secondly, the at large system doesn't take into account the concept of neighbourhoods. I believe that neighbourhooods are a crucial element in building community and reducing alienation, in producing local democracy, and in helping people to come up with wise and relevant solutions to local problems." Mel Lehan, COPE candidate for Vancouver Park Board

"Yes: At large as we have it is usually a tyranny of the largest minority, who often gain control of the city by outspending other electoral groups." Fred Bass, current city councillor, and COPE candidate for Vancouver City Council.

"Yes, but I don't know which one would be better. All wards is not my preference." Peter Ladner, current city councilor, NPA candidate for Vancouver City Council.

"Yes, at-large is extremely expensive to run. Perpetuates rule by financial elite." Jane Bouey, School Trustee, COPE candidate for Vancouver School Board.

"Yes. Though the Ward System was rejected in a referendum, the turn-out for that mid-term referendum was extraordinarily low. Essentially, about 11% of registered voters indicated they liked the at-large system. Though fewer yet voted for wards, I view the results as inconclusive." Kevin Potvin, independent candidate for Vancouver City Council.

"No: Vancouver is small enough to have an at-large system. Any type of ward system or riding system does not focus on the city as a whole." Michelle Jasmine Chang

"Yes: the at-large system is prehistoric and we need a more democratic system." Ben West, Work Less Party candidate for Vancouver Mayor.

Question 5: Donations to political parties should be subject to limits.

"Yes. Puts limits on ability to win election races simply by having the most money. Look at New York City. That could happen here. We have nothing to stop it." Jane Bouey, School Trustee, COPE candidate for Vancouver School Board.

"Yes. Prevents one group buying the election. Would be hard on parties that rely on large donations from single unions." Peter Ladner, current city councilor, NPA candidate for Vancouver City Council.

"Yes. A donation is a means of strongly indicating support. It should not be a means of buying influence in the democratic process. A certain amount indicates strong support; over that amount is an attempt to unduly influence the voting preference of others." Kevin Potvin, Independent candidate for Vancouver City Council

"Yes. So wealthy people cannot buy undue influence" Fred Bass, current city councillor, and COPE candidate for Vancouver City Council.

"Yes, it allows for smaller parties and independents." Michelle Jasmine Change

"Yes! This would stop the practice of allowing those with wealth of having too much influence over political parties. Unfortunately, (s)he who pays the piper often calls the tune. This is entirely inappropriate in a democracy and if you reduce the amounts that can be contributed you not only reduce the influence of the wealthy, but you make everyone else's donation more relevant. Mel Lehan, COPE candidate for Vancouver Park Board

Vanessa Richmond is the assistant editor of The Tyee.  [Tyee]

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  • scott yee

    6 years ago

    Comments on "What? Every Candidate Agrees?"

    I think the Think City Survey was a left-wing set up!

    When they sent there questions to me, all they were asking for, was what candidates thought of their report.

    They never said anyone was going to be graded, and would fail, if they gave a no, for an answer.

    -2 was my grade. I gave a written response to my answers, and I thought they would be putting everyone's written responses on their website, but they didn't.

    Here's my response to their questions, you can decide if I should have failed it or not.

    1)yes:People should know who is funding them, becuase donations are legal bribes.

    2)Yes:So elections do not become about who can raise the most money like in the US.

    3)Yes:First I believe all of the city's finance's should be put on the city's website, or emailed to anyone that ask's. As for getting the public's input, I do like the idea, but isn't that why we elect a city
    council? I might change my mind in the future, or come up with a better idea.

    4)No:I want to keep the at-large system, and have a community ward system of 10-14 members. Community ward members will only represent local issues to city hall, they will have no voting powers, and will be elected every
    municipal election. If 50% or more votes for mayor, then there might be a Run-Off, or it will go to your second choice on the ballot. Put on the ballot, non-of-the-above. And I also want Recall and to abolish the
    municipal party system. I have lived in Toronto, where they have a ward system, and unless you give ward councillors special powers for their ward, their issues still can be ignored, plus, ward councillors do not
    care for the whole city.

    5)Yes:To make sure a person does not have to much influence, and I want to ban corporate, union and special interest group donations.

    6)No:Because if you move to a country, you should repect their laws and languages, and not demand they change their ways just for you! If you can't speak their language, tough!

    7)No:That would be my second choice, I feel only Mayor's of each city should sit on the GVRD.

    8)No:Not a bad idea, and it would help independants get their message out
    there. But I think having a link to their website, put on the city's website is good enough. I know in the last election, the city did put the candidates contact info on their website, which would include the candidates website, or at least I think they would. The only thing I would add to that, is the city making people more aware of the candidates
    websites, and if a candidate didn't have a website, the city set one up, if they want one.

    9)No:I do not believe any political party should get a tax exempt. Taxpayers should not be forced to fund political parties, unless you were to ban all donations period.

    10)No:That will just add to more city staff being hired, and if anyone has any conerns, all they have to do is go down to city hall.

    11)No:Once again, not a bad idea, but in the end, if people don't care to vote, they will either not register to vote, or will register, but not vote. I think anyone that doesn't vote is a lazy bastard! They all like to say, there all the same, so why should I bother to vote? Well, for one, becuase you don't vote, it leaves only the special interest groups, which
    politicans will try to get their vote, because no else is voting. And two, what if all politicans were good, honest, and so fouth? People would then say, why should I vote? It doesn't matter there all the same, they will
    all do a good job! Does anyone really think sitting on your ass bitching, is going to change anything? Do you really think a corrupt politican is going to say, well, their not voting becuase of me, so I guess I should be
    honest? Get off your ass and vote! Now becuase we do not have non of the above, just write **** you on the ballot, if you do not like any of the choices!

    Scott Yee,
    Vancouver Mayoral Candidate
    centralparty.ca

  • dangrice.com

    6 years ago

    I'd also instruct people to look at cityvote.ca, for more answers on electoral reform. Fred Bass and Jamie Lee Hamilton both came out with pro STV for municipality pieces. We use wards provincially and we know they stink. We use at large, and we know it is a system of sweeps. STV would allow neighbourhoods to block vote if they so choose, but still allows candidates representing the whole city to get elected. It would also be much cheaper to run elections, as candidates wouldn't have to appeal to the whole city or win every votes. They would only need to win a fraction of the votes, and could focus more on issues and regions.

  • Bailey

    6 years ago

    Mr Yee, I applaud your willingness to weigh in here, thank you.

    I want to quickly zip back to your answer to question 1-- You say people should know who is funding them, because donations are legal bribes. I agree wholeheartedly.

    At every level of government we've been treated to a circus of big "contributors" getting their pockets stuffed with public assets, paid for by taxpayers, and in spite of clear evidence that the outcomes are far worse than they otherwise might be.

    So I have two questions:
    1. What do you plan to do about it? and
    2. How can we make ALL bribes crimes; even those made through loopholes?

  • scott yee

    6 years ago

    Campaign Finance Reform
    Ban all corporate, union and special interest group donations

    An individual can not donate to both, a candidate for mayor and city councillor, and can only donate once per election

    The most an individual can donate to a candidate for mayor, is 5,000 dollars, and 2,500 dollars for city councillor

    The most a mayoral candidate can raise is 250,000 dollars, and 125,000 dollar’s for a city council candidate

    And I also want to pass a municipal bylaw, forcing the media to give equal access, at least in some parts, to all candidates

    TV stations will have to provide 1 minute statements for every candidate

    Radio stations will have to provide 1 minute statements for every candidate

    All papers will have to do proiles of each candidate

    And all candidate profiles/ statements must be put on tv/radio/papers websites

    As for all bribes being crimes...

    Only if all donations were banned! I at least want to limit those types of donations.

    As you can tell, I'm working on something, and I if all donations were banned, either the media will have to cover candidates more, and/or, public money will have to come into it.

    I do not like the $1.75 per vote, like in Ottawa, but something like that might have to be done, if all donations were to be banned.

    Scott Yee,
    Mayoral Candidate

  • Fish-counter

    6 years ago

    Time for electoral reform? It is long overdue!

    Too many voters don't bother to exercise their franchise because they are too apathetic, and they have long since given up expecting politicians to live up to their ridiculous election promises. The current election is the best such example in living memory. It makes me laugh from the pit of my sickened stomach to hear Paul Martin talking about the need for a child-care program. How stupid does he think we are? If the succession of promises on child-care had been kept, particularly those made by the Liberal Party, there would be no such issue in this current election. The pedigree of promises goes all the way to back to Pierre Trudeau and none of them has been kept.

    Here are a few simple suggestions for electoral reform.

    1. Documentation:
    All election promises be documented and written into a charter. The charter should be signed by the elected politicians, who should be held to account on a monthly basis. This is the way most organisations function. Two outstanding exceptions are the judiciary, who all too often, display spectacularly inappropriate sentencing, and politicians, for whom "The Great Lie" has become a comfortable way to make a living.

    2. Accountability:
    Politicians who fail to keep their promises should be penalised in proportion to the offence and it should have a financial component.

    3. Termination:
    If they break more promises than they keep, they should be recalled and replaced. A by-election would not be necessary. The runner-up in the last election could be instated, automatically.

    4. Campaign funding
    All campaign donations should be published in the local press. Funding a campaign should be something to be proud of. There is nothing to be ashamed of, whether the funds are corporate, union, or individual. Democracy ain't free, folks.

    By making politicians quantifiably accountable to the electorate, they would have tools with which to defend themselves against the political party machine in Ottawa, which assimilates newcomers and puts them through the homogenisation blender.

    You need only look at the NAFTA agreement, or the G.S.T. to see that neither of the two major parties keep their most significant promises.

    The Kyoto compact is another example, one with international consequences. Canada's greenhouse gases have increased 23% since the conference, while the US emissions have increased by "only " 13%. The US is out-performing Canada, yet Paul Martin is berating the Bush government for failing to sign the treaty. Canada is the world's worst greenhouse gas emitter on a per capita basis, and the rate of increase shows no sign of abatement, making Canada the worst conceivable kind of international hypocrite - a joke by any other name.

    The suggestion that we vote "strategically" is particularly cynical. Democracy depends on everyone voting for what they believe in. Today, every federal vote is worth $1.75 to the party. If we ever want to see change in the federal, provincial or municipal scenes, we have to vote the way we believe, not try to second-guess everyone else. Any deeper analysis is being too clever by half.

    To quote a 1980's headline in the Manchester (UK) Guardian, on the French language issue, "Nice Country, Nice Mess". Even that issue has not been properly resolved. Thanks to Liberal pork-barrelling of the worst kind, we are now facing another Quebec separatist referendum.

    Finally, the Canadian electorate has to take responsibility for their decisions. When we vote people into office, we should support them. At present, election to public office is an invitation to be crucified. We need to stop deifying political candidates merely to crucify them later. Quantifying politician's performance would give everyone a common index to work with. Then, with election out of the way, we have to accept the "Tyranny of the Majority" and get on with our lives.

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