His new book traces 'dangerous' rise of CanWest Global.
CanWest Global's slogan is "Inform, Enlighten, Entertain." Marc Edge frames it differently. "Canada's Most Dangerous Media Company" is the subtitle to Asper Nation, Edge's comprehensive, fast-paced, indispensable new book on CanWest Global and its founding family.
Beginning today, The Tyee is publishing four substantial excerpts from Asper Nation, tracing the Asper family's political agenda, their media empire's rise, and the power it wields as the biggest of just a few Big Media owners in Canada.
Edge, who worked as a reporter and editor for the Vancouver Province and Calgary Herald before earning a PhD in Mass Communication at Ohio University, carved out his reputation as an historian of Canadian media with his first book, Pacific Press: The Unauthorized Story of Vancouver's Newspaper Monopoly. He is today an associate professor of journalism at Sam Houston University in Huntvsille, Texas, and has spent five years researching and writing Asper Nation.
'End of the world'
When did it become clear to Edge that CanWest Global, founded by the late Izzy Asper and now run by his sons Leonard and David, is "dangerous" to Canada's democracy? He points to the end of 2001, when the Aspers, having recently bought the Southam newspaper chain from Conrad Black, ordered 13 of its 14 major dailies to march lockstep in publishing editorials emanating from headquarters. In the aftermath, Ottawa Citizen publisher Russell Mills and others were fired for daring to put their own, contrary opinions in CanWest Global pages.
When reporters at the Asper-owned Montreal Gazette protested the top-down meddling by pulling bylines, David Asper famously told "the bleeding hearts of the journalist community that it's the end of the world as they know it, and I feel fine."
But even if CanWest owns dozens of newspaper across the nation along with Global TV and other television stations reaching 94 per cent of all Canadians, and even if CEO Leonard Asper has said he aims to make his company one of the top five media companies on the planet, how much torque can the Aspers really put on our democratic process?
In responding, Edge touches on several media theories. One is "agenda setting." Research has shown again and again that "those election issues covered prominently in the news media tend to be perceived by the public as the most important election issues. Items buried tend not to make it on the agenda for public discussion." Edge says the message is clear: "While the media can not tell us what to think, they are very influential in telling us what to think about. The way these stories are covered not only tell us what to think about, but how we think about it."
'The Fox effect'
Other research shows that media instills cultural values within us. "People who watch more television tend to see the world the way it is portrayed on TV. But the violent content doesn't make them more violent. It makes them more fearful of violence. This has profound social and political implications, because people who are more fearful tend to be more accepting of repressive political measures to fight crime and terrorism."
Edge points to the so-called "Fox effect," which he says "is instilling a culture of fear in Americans." The popularity of Fox news jingoism jerked coverage from CNN and other competitors to the right. Edge notes that Conrad Black launched the National Post two years after Rupert Murdoch created Fox news. The Post, now owned by the Aspers, is "a similar attempt to influence the national political agenda in Canada."
Is it working?
"According to Izzy Asper it is working," says Edge. He cites the last interview Asper gave. To the Jerusalem Post, Asper bragged of the sway his media empire exerts over the Canadian government, and beyond.
Time for action
Edge believes it's time for the CRTC to step in and "look at regional media diversity, and act to increase it where necessary." The first place he'd recommend intervening: the Vancouver region, dominated by CanWest Global newspaper and television entities.
And he suggests that journalism schools, including UBC's, stop taking millions of dollars in funding from CanWest and other big media corporations. "The Aspers, in talking about their educational initiative, have been clear in saying they want to change Canadian minds not just through their news media, but by educating journalists the 'right' way," says Edge.
Edge finds hope in the U.S., where a vibrant media reform movement is mobilizing against yet another attempt by the Bush administration to allow more media mergers and cross ownership.
Asked what he hopes his book might achieve, Edge laughs and says: "A second printing." Then he turns a bit more serious. "Canadians should know what the facts are with their news media. They're certainly not going to get the facts about the news media from their news media."
Today's excerpt from Asper Nation will be followed by another Friday, and two more next Tuesday and Friday.
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Jeffrey J.
5 years ago
Democracy Alive and Well in BC
Congratulations Tyee on this incredible scoop. Edge's Pacific Press is an excellent read and I have no doubt his latest book will be even more relevant. The number of staff fleeing CanWestGlobal and other media monopolies pretty well says it all. Because no matter how strident the Aspers and Ted Rogers and other dynastic empire builders are, citizens want real news. Not fake, biased, massaged ideology. But real stories with "truth" in them. Hard to define but its easy to recognize. The infotainment component of these publications is particularly cloying. So people everywhere are resorting to the only tool of the powerless: boycott. And when these media monopolies wonder why, it will be easy to look into a mirror to find the answer.
Working Memory
5 years ago
Vancouver News Subpar
Without doubt news reporting in Vancouver is biased and the worst I've seen anywhere in a large city in North America.
Residents have to start treating this issue more seriously and find other sources that reflect more accurately how we, on the West coast fit into the global landscape.
Insularity is an anchor, not a badge of honor.
murdock
5 years ago
Support Structure.
The 'support structure' behind the newspaper biz is advertising and sales.
Stop paying for their fishwrappers.
Ignore the birdcage liners.
They are best used as firelighters or packing materials.
Once the advertisers give up on these press then something can be done, until that happens then I expect the command and control levers to beat ever harder on the staff in all of their 'controlled' media.
redunk
5 years ago
educational initiatives
I went to a school funded by Asper money. At the school in response to some of their conservative constructs, I learned how to be innovative and radical. Also with any institution, there were a diversity of perspectives and mentors, the ones who were there to inspire, I learned from and those that were there for a check, I learned what not to do, which is arguably just as useful. (Of course while learning what not to do, I was also missing out on real education from qualified instructors and that still pisses me off. GRRRR!)
BC Dude
5 years ago
Boycott this despicable
Boycott this despicable CanWest bunch who call them selves AristocRats like C Black as he is so arrogant and self-serving loser, he even steals from his own dirty legacy!
I hope he gets 25 years hard time.
CanWest Global
http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/06/06/CanwestCampbell/
http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2004/12/20/SunExclusive/
Where is the latest on the BC Rail scandal court dates etc?
http://bctrialofbasi-virk.blogspot.com/
Where in CanWest rag is it that Gordo is/has given 500 of OUR rivers away?
Mining uranium in BC for the war mongers?
Check out www.killercoke.org to see just how powerful we as a worldwide power are! Now “ENOUGH” the time has come to take these evil corrupt corporations out of existence.
BC Dude
5 years ago
When machines and computers,
When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism, are incapable of being conquered. A true revolution of values will soon cause us to question the fairness and justice of many of our past and present policies: - Martin Luther King, Jr -from "A Time to Break Silence", King's address given on this day, April 4th in 1967 at the Riverside Church in New York City.
Skywalker
5 years ago
When propaganda is dangerous.
This article invokes thoughts of Joseph Goebbels. Now hold on a minute. At one time the holocaust was unleashed because propaganda fueled a notion which unchecked led to an attempt to exterminate a race. Now this today with the Aspers directing media opinion may seem benign but propaganda is propaganda and it is dangerous. It does not matter if you just deliberately fail to report some aspects of an issue it is still not the truth and as such it becomes dangerous. You can not even pretend anymore that the truth twisted or not reported has not led to death and destruction so while the degree of the consequence may still be in question, I find the Aspers attempt at thought manipulation or thought eradication highly offensive. You think the worst can not happen today? I would not bet on it because it happens in some countries now because of people who believe just like the Aspers.
At one time everyone ridiculed PRAVDA for its one-sided coverage. They at least had an excuse because the Gulag was always a possibility for their next vacation. We live in a democracy or has that given way to a corporate dictatorship.
The Aspers may have learned too much from Joseph Goebbels.
The brain
5 years ago
Excellent - finally, real news
I'll save it for Marc Edge's story, David. ;-)
BC Mary
5 years ago
Marc Edge's book might shame CanWest into doing its job
Marc Edge, David Beers, The Tyee, a great, important topic.
I've always thought that CanWest's newsrooms in B.C., at least, must be in campaign mode all the time. They elect specific governments, specific premiers; they destroy others. Easy.
Does Marc Edge's book discuss the virtual media silence on the Basi Virk Basi / B.C. Rail trial? It should.
There's a tragedy unfolding on the West Coast of Canada -- the Basi-Virk trial is only the canary in the mineshaft -- with a province-wide revelation needing to be told. And isn't being told. We know that CanWest is OK with that. But I often wonder why The Globe and Mail or CBC can't investigate this massive story.
They can't say the BC Rail trial isn't important, involving a provincial government, a prime minister, Canada's 3rd largest railway, and a few major U.S. corporations, all under suspicion. No, CanWest just looks the other way. They opt out. "When there's news, we'll report it," a CanWest editor-in-chief told me, the day after sending a reporter to a pre-trial hearing and deciding "nothing happened" so no report.
My blog at http://bctrialofbasi-virk.blogspot.com/ has been trying to fill part of that vaccum. And yes, I've had Real Journalists (i.e., who get paid) tell me they read my blog regularly and say "Keep going, it's important." But I would be one of the happiest citizens if the media would step up and do their own work.
I hope Marc Edge's book helps to push CanWest or CRTC or legislators to do the job expected of a democratic news media. One of the commentors above really nailed it by saying that Canada provided these Aspers with refuge from oppressive regimes and it's fair now to ask: is this how they repay us?
Newspapering is a rich man's game though. And the pipers still play their tune.
Birch
5 years ago
Thanks, BC Mary
...whoever you are...
I've given up getting anything like remotely objective news coverage from Global. And I think, had the NDP or some other party tried some of the bold but objectionable ploys the Liberals have gotten away with, there would have been plenty of ink spilled at Pacific Press and a change of government.
I look forward to the rest of this four-part series.
IAMC
5 years ago
Rupert Murdoch
Just released news today that he is waiving the online subscription fee of $50.00 and making the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) free to online subscribers.
This has the New York Times (NYT) shaking in their boots.
The WSJ, was one of the few online offerings that made a success of online subscription fees bring in 50 million a year ( one million subscribers )
The theory is that if they can fetch 20 or 35 million readers per day, that advertisers will flock to advertise on his website.
Oh, how I admire brilliant people.
This will mean of course that millions of people will now get exposure to the WSJ editorials, which are very pro capitalist, pro American, pro conservative economic policies being exposed to more people than the NYT can get to listen to their BS.
It's a beautiful thing.
Meanwhile, here at this website, there seems to be an obsession against Canwest Media that has been going on for years.
I don't get it.
Are you starved of sources of information?
Are you elitist? Thinking that the common man cannot sort out the information available to him?
That the average guy is dumber than you and needs protection from evil corporations?
It's definitely weird how this argument keeps coming up over and over.
There is no problem. If you don't like Canwest, then don't support them, but this constant attack is so stupid, I have never seen anything like it.
G West
5 years ago
Ron
I thought you were leaving.
You really MUST be scared.
Frank
5 years ago
Ron Erwin
G, he can't leave the only place where people read his opinion can he?
Really? Why not look at your own posts vis a vis the NY Times?
Unlike you, the rest of us don't have to find a paper a continent away to hate.
IAMC
5 years ago
CRTC
This guy wants the CRTC to intervene?
The CRTV are hardly an organization to be put in charge of deciding a fair and balanced print media, based on their totally inept actions affecting our access to electronic media, including television, land line telephones, cellular and Internet service.
No competition is the problem.
The CRTC acted like King Solomon and simply cut Canada in two.
Shaw got the West, Rogers got the East.
Telus got the West, Bell got the East.
Our Internet speed is so slow. It's up to 30 times faster in Japan.
Why? No competition.
Why can't we get Direct TV or Verison wireless Internet access in Canada?
Why don't you Canwest haters go after some of this stuff?
Is it a Jew thing?
Am I missing something?
I don't get it.
Frank
5 years ago
Ron Erwin
Uh Ron, are you saying there's no competition between different media? In some provinces I don't think you'd get an argument but in Ontario there is competition.
Whose fault is that? Somehow I don't think you can blame the CRTC, not that they're blameless.
I think you meant is it a Jewish thing and you're dancing with being offensive.
Yes
G West
5 years ago
Slow internet - blame the commies!
You said you were leaving...that was a very short furlough.
Japan has a decent society - compared with here. You should check it out - they don't have a huge gap between the richest and the poorest and their system is a lot more socialistic than ours is. I’m so pleased to hear you like it.
I think the Americans gave them their new constitution – did you know that.
I think you should move to the United States - I think you'd be a lot happier there. Perhaps you could visit Conrad Black...he has a lot of friends on the far right in America – some of them may end up in the same jail with him.
You're right when you say you don't get it.
slim
5 years ago
Prime Minister Stephen "Fox" Harper
I notice a similarity between CanWest's centralized control of its newspaper editorial content and Prime Minster Harper's centralized control of everything in Ottawa. I won't say that Harper was the first leader to centralize control. Bloc Québécois MPs need Gilles Duceppe's permission to say anything to the media.
I do remember when Harper first tried to run his own press briefing that I think he chose a CanWest Global reporter first. Hmm.
I think I'll boycott Global News. I'll get my political e!ntertainment from E! instead. "Is Stéphane Dion sinking like the Titanic while Céline Dion's voice wails/whales in the background?"
jimmy_laroux
5 years ago
IAMC: I thought you said on
IAMC:
I thought you said on a recent thread that you were leaving. I was so hopeful. One fewer troll on the Tyee discussion threads. Oh well...
Yes.
Are you mentally infirm?
This is such a profoundly stupid statement it's hard to respond. Par for the course, I suppose, as far as anything you write. Precisely the problem with media outlets like CanWest is that they are not making all information available. You are turning the truth on its head. Did you even read the article? Do you understand what it's about?
It's not an attack, it's a discussion. A discussion of an important issue that affects every Canadian. If mainstream media filter the news to suit their own ends and the ends of their customers (the other large corporations that advertise on their TV channels and in their newspapers), how can this be good for the democratic process? Does this process not require citizens to have all the facts at hand when making decisions?
Try reading the article. It's quite good.
jimmy_laroux
5 years ago
IAMC: Quote:Is it a Jew
IAMC:
This is shockingly offensive. [/b]Tyee Editor take note.[b] And anyway, is Marc Edge even Jewish?
jimmy_laroux
5 years ago
IAMC: Quote: Is it a
IAMC:
Quote:
Is it a Jew thing?
This is shockingly offensive. Tyee Editor take note. And anyway, is Marc Edge even Jewish?
IAMC
5 years ago
Stupid people
When I stated " Is this a Jew thing "
I was, of course referring to the fact that the Asper's are Jewish.
And we have all heard conspiracy theories about the Jews running the media, haven't we.
Don't be looking for trouble where there isn't any, you [OFFENSIVE COMMENT REMOVED. -EDITOR].
jimmy_laroux
5 years ago
IAMC: Quote:And we have all
IAMC:
Have we? I think you must read very different stuff than I do.
Oh, the irony! Anyway, I'm not the one complaining about Jews, like you did.
Working Memory
5 years ago
IAMC - MSM is watching
One of the reasons commenters here criticize you is because we know members of mainstream media are watching.
We want them to know that we do not support commenters who write irresponsibly.
We wish mainstream news media would adopt the same moral character and call out their colleagues they way we manage commenters here.
We do not want mainstream news media to paint us with one brush, which they tend to do, because when they do it negatively impacts a lot of valuable and hard work.
Mainstream news media unfortunately is not self governing, but we are, and that is one big difference.
The Aspers have a short leash on their journalists and editors, but here on The Tyee, we have more freedom. David Beers trusts us to respect this position, and when we do, he provides us with a platform that mainstream journalists only dream.
Commenting will soon become an accepted right, but currently, and until we reach critical mass, it is a privilege.
Please regard it as one and use a bit of restraint when you write online.
In some respects we are just as frustrated as you.
IAMC
5 years ago
Working Memory
You are an idiot. What a bunch of nonsense you are spewing.
[EDITOR NOTE: THIS COMMENTER HAS BEEN BLOCKED FROM THE SITE FOR REPEATED ABUSIVE COMMENTS AIMED DIRECTLY AT OTHER COMMENTERS (DESPITE HAVING BEEN PREVIOUSLY WARNED). JUST A REMINDER, WE APPRECIATE A VARIETY OF OPINION AND A WIDE-RANGING, ROLLICKING DEBATE BUT WILL NOT TOLERATE BULLYING OR TROLL-LIKE BEHAVIOUR. -EDITOR.]
G West
5 years ago
I think that qualifies as offensive comment Ron
with a little luck and some editorial vigilance your furlough may become a bit more attenated.
G West
5 years ago
that should be
"attenuated" of course!
IAMC
5 years ago
12 hours ago
12 hours ago G.West wrote a racist statement obout Black's in America.
Shame on you.
G West
5 years ago
That was CONRAD Black Ron- there is a difference
And this, was not racist:
Japan has a decent society - compared with here. You should check it out - they don't have a huge gap between the richest and the poorest and their system is a lot more socialistic than ours is. I’m so pleased to hear you like it.
I think the Americans gave them their new constitution – did you know that.
I think you should move to the United States - I think you'd be a lot happier there. Perhaps you could visit Conrad Black...he has a lot of friends on the far right in America – some of them may end up in the same jail with him.
You're right when you say you don't get it.
Care to discuss it any further?
IAMC
5 years ago
silly isn't it
Playing the race card is silly isn't it Ms. West?
Frank
5 years ago
Ron Erwin
Ron, are you actually equating your use of the word "Jew" with GWest mentioning "Conrad Black"?
Your tinfoil is on too tight.
jimmy_laroux
5 years ago
Quote:Your tinfoil is on too
He needs it tight to protect him from the Jewish conspiracies he reads about on the internet.
G West
5 years ago
And Conrad BLACK is a convicted felon too
He doesn't actually have that much longer as a free man either does he Ron?
I had no idea you were such a fan.
G West
5 years ago
On the other hand
Not to be too hasty about it, there are some Japanese folks who are pretty critical of their 'government' too.
Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr9_uLlH3yk
Working Memory
5 years ago
G on Japanese clip
That's some funny stuff G
Working Memory
5 years ago
IAMC
The last person who called me an idiot online was a reporter from The Vancouver Sun who became angry when I challenged his reporting.
He never verbally attacked me again, but his writing improved - somewhat.
Hopefully, the same will happen here.
G West
5 years ago
I thought you might Maurice
Even the inflection and timbre of the voice - without understanding a word of what he had to say aurally - was hilarious.
I have a friend who sends me stuff like that – I’d never find it myself – but he understands my sense of humour.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Antonia Zerbisias
5 years ago
Giving to universities
And he suggests that journalism schools, including UBC's, stop taking millions of dollars in funding from CanWest and other big media corporations. "The Aspers, in talking about their educational initiative, have been clear in saying they want to change Canadian minds not just through their news media, but by educating journalists the 'right' way," says Edge.
All very nice but here's the thing.
To take over other media companies, the buyer must present the CRTC with a package of ''social benefits'' equal to 10 per cent of the deal.
Giving to journalism schools is standard and, to my mind, a perfectly appropriate use of the benefits.
It's a one-shot deal, by fiat. It's not as if the deans have to make nice to get renewal or ongoing funding.
My guess is, the Aspers would rather fund some building or cause in Winnipeg but that wouldn't impress the CRTC much.
In any case, I don't think they micromanage j-school admissions or hiring practices. It's been my experience that journalism profs have been very outspoken against media concentration.
The trouble is, the media don't publish their comments.
G West
5 years ago
Ay, there's the rub, Antonia
There aren't enough places where the critics can capture a sufficiently large audience to make much of a splash and there’s the traditional Canadian suspicion of pretty much anything that comes out of a university of any kind.
Surely though, the concentration levels are already so high that any further mergers and acquisitions can't possibly get a thumbs up if the CRTC is going to remain at all relevant as a regulator.
That's why, I think, Edge used Vancouver (although it would be equally true to say the same thing about everything west of Winnipeg) as the place most appropriate for some kind of symbolic move toward meaningful diversity.
I keep wishing you'd come out here for a few months Antonia. Even someone as acutely aware of the media markets across the country would find the situation here to be utterly bizarre.
Drinks are on me! Standing offer.
G West
5 years ago
And by the way
As a kind of primer on what's going on out here, in case you do decide to visit, here's an excellent place to start:
http://corkyevans.kootenayactivist.ca/blog/
I think he makes the point very effectively that this isn't a battle against specific people so much as it is a question of combating an ideology.
Moreover, I think that's equally true of the Aspers and the media.
Working Memory
5 years ago
University funding ...
Quote:
"The trouble is, the media don't publish their comments."
True ... but university "students" will.
I spent the latter part of the 90's developing online strategies that "indirectly" encouraged students to undermine major record labels.
At the time, universities tried to prevent students from using school servers to trade music online, but to little avail. The more they tried, the more the indie music industry developed and encouraged students to pursue workarounds.
Trading music through university servers eventually became less of an issue because servers funded by the independent music industry started popping up everywhere. A few years later the entire world gravitated to trading music through generic p2p networks.
Today, universities won't be able to gag students regarding journalism any more than they did yesterday regarding music.
Granted, and I fully agree that students don't have the collective and hypnotic draw of music to keep them focused on the news dilemma, but once they have a reason they'll attack it with similar vigor. First though, they need to feel a personal connection, and have a vested interest.
Unfortunately, average young adults start to develop a more serious interest in the news in their late 20's, which I also agree makes my university/music analogy weak, but the point is, all it takes is one event to get the ball rolling.
Social media is a powerful tool that we barely understand.
Advertising is out. Promotion is in.
It will be interesting to see what happens at UBC when the class of 2010 realizes the Olympics will negatively impact their plans to graduate on time and budget. It happens in other Olympics regions and there is no reason to believe it won't happen here too.
Students will become incensed when they also realize that local mainstream news media has been spreading misinformation, and that media is on the Olympic payroll.
I think that qualifies as "vested interest."
If you thought Cambie businesses created a ruckus, wait until you see how quickly UBC students voice their Olympics displeasure through the next FaceBook du jour.
Don't underestimate youth. They shoot from the hip and are quick to the draw. Shawn Fanning, Napster, is a good example. At first, and from a legal context, he didn't have a clue what he was doing, and when his attorney told him ... he didn't care, so the RIAA had to take him to court to stop him. As soon as they did, KaZZa popped up, then Grokster, then another and another.
Here's what I wrote about this issue in early 2006 in my blog and book.
Media Tells Students Half Truths
http://www.olyblog.com/f/06/SchoolsCloseF10192006.shtml#UNIVERSITY
Students Take a Hit
http://www.olyblog.com/f/06/UniversitiesF10162006.shtml
Working Memory
5 years ago
Real names
Has anyone noticed that the Corky Evans blog G West posted a link to uses real names? (at least I assume they're real)
hmm ... are those people crazy?
Each time I use my real name here I feel guilty - even though other commenters rarely make an issue of it.
hmm ...
Reading the Corky Evans blog was refreshing.
ME2
5 years ago
GWest
Thanks, GWest, that Corky Evans essay is one of the most evocative political statements I've read in quite a while.
It is so sad to know we face a man so totally corrupt as is Campbell, who possesses such awesome political skill and diverting boyish charm.
G West
5 years ago
I think
I think the boyish charm may finally be wearing a little thin.
I've been noticing more than a few ripples of discontent about the way Gordo plays politics of late...not least some rumblings about what's coming round the corner in terms of needless increases in the cost of hydro power.
Have a look at this:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071114.BCENERGY14/TPStory/TPNational/BritishColumbia/
SharingIsGood
5 years ago
google news asper v. tyee
Im curious, whenever I check google.ca/news, I never see a Tyee article listed in the headlines; why is that? I see articles posted by MSM (CanWest rags, CTV, T-Star, Globe and Mail, etc.) but no articles from the Tyee. What keeps the Tyee out of the loop?
SharingIsGood
5 years ago
Here's the Google.ca news
This is the page; shouldn't many of the topics the Tyee writes about reach here. Isn't the online readership enough for the tags to catch? I know that the Tyee doesn't often break news, but certainly investigative reports break new ground on older topics, essentially breaking/destroying the old news reports.
http://news.google.ca/nwshp?oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&q=
SharingIsGood
5 years ago
I found an answer
I think this source probably gives a true description of how Google, googles its news. Perhaps The Tyee can find a way to make its articles seem more "newsworthy" for Google etc. without jumping aboard the Paris Hilton boat. Come to think of it, perhaps that is part of why The Tyee has begun publishing the periodic MSM media review article, thereby tossing about phrases that online engines could find to their liking. If that is part of the reasoning, I hope it works.
http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2160891
zalm
5 years ago
Corky Evans
boy, that's good. thanks G.