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Sex, Race, Religion and America's Next President
Clinton, Obama, Romney... What the polls say.
Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama: Voters ready?
TrendWatch
- Separation Anxiety
- Is USA Harper Country?
- Who's for the War in Afghanistan?
- What the World Wants in Leaders
- How Terrified of Terrorists?
- The Americas on Drugs
- Who Trusts Their Media?
- Public Opinion Heats Up
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- Absolutely Scandalous
- Sex, Race, Religion and America's Next President
[Editor's note: The Tyee's popular Trendwatch feature will have a new byline. Replacing Angus Reid is Mario Canseco, director of global studies at Angus Reid Global Monitor. "We look at hundreds of polls a week to create the ARGM database. I have not missed a day of updates since Mar. 26, 2003. My goal is to catch Cal Ripken Jr. (2,632 consecutive days in my case, games in his) before officially taking a day off," says Canseco, who graduated from the UBC School of Journalism in 2002 and has worked at CTV and with famed journalist Peter C. Newman. Canseco brings a revised yet still brief format to Trendwatch, including more analysis.]
Next year's United States presidential election will be the first one since 1952 to have neither an incumbent nor a current or former vice-president on either of the two main tickets -- unless Al Gore suddenly decides to run again.
As of now, national polls place New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton as the favourite candidate for Democrats, followed by Illinois Senator Barack Obama and former North Carolina senator John Edwards. On the Republican side, actor and former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson is almost even with former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, with Arizona Senator John McCain and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney further back.
When it comes to seeking America's highest office, any candidate who isn't a Christian white male is trying to break the mould. But this race offers more than a few such contenders. So which is the biggest "negative," being a woman, black, of Mexican descent ... or Mormon?
Hillary Clinton's gender, Barack Obama's race
A question that has been featured extensively by pollsters -- particularly with the high level of support for Rodham Clinton -- is about the possibility of a woman becoming the head of state. In a Siena Research Institute survey conducted in February, two-third of Americans said their country is ready for a female president.
Obama, the son of a white mother and a black father, is seeking to become the first African-American to be nominated for president by either of the two main parties. In a January survey by Rasmussen Reports, 79 per cent of respondents said they would be willing to vote for an African American president.
It could be argued that these responses represent a "politically correct" way of answering a poll, and that -- faced with a woman or an African American in the ballot -- many Americans would react differently than when responding to a survey. Still, when it comes to other characteristics, the rejection levels are particularly high.
Bill Richardson's ethnicity, John McCain's age
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, the son of a Mexican mother, is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination. In a July poll by Princeton Survey Research Associates published in Newsweek, 48 per cent of respondents said the U.S. is not ready for a Hispanic president.
In a February 2007 poll by TNS released by the Washington Post and ABC News, 58 per cent of respondents said they are less likely to vote for a presidential candidate who is over age 72. McCain would be 72 when Americans head to the voting stations in November 2008.
In a May poll by Scripps Howard News Service and Ohio University, respondents were almost equally divided over supporting a presidential candidate who has been married three times, with 46 per cent thinking the U.S. would accept such a contender, and 44 per cent saying it would not. Giuliani married his third wife, Judith Nathan, in 2003.
Mitt Romney's Mormonism: better than Godless
Still, the biggest controversy has nothing to do with gender, age, ethnicity or number of marriages. Late last year, only 38 per cent of respondents to a Rasmussen Reports poll said they would consider voting for a Mormon presidential candidate. Romney, who has been successful in early voting intention surveys conducted in Iowa and New Hampshire, is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Still, none of them are professed atheists. In an August study by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, 61 per cent of respondents said they would be less likely to support a presidential contender who does not believe in God, and 45 per cent feel the same way about a Muslim. ![]()




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nightbloom
4 years ago
This is one mouldy mold that
This is one mouldy mold that needs to be broken so bad even 'nightbloom' will gladly wield the hammer personally.
Hillary & Obama. No more actors & oilmen, please. Give me a cold calculating orgasm-deprived medusan policy-maven with a scary rictus-grin and an up-&-coming mulatto visionary. Anything's an improvement. Bubba would make an excellent "First Man" ("First 'Gentleman'"....maybe no) don't u think?
IAMC
4 years ago
Medicare
I think Hillary has blown it with her push for a socialist medical system in the USA.
Americans aren't driven by this subject.
Most, by far, don't have a problem with the system they have now.
Even those that don't have medical insurance, are extremely satisfied with their medical care.
There are big flaws when she suggests that medical insurance becomes mandatory, even to get a job.
She hasn't thought this out, because it doesn't address illegal immigrants.
You could drive ten trucks through the holes in her proposal.
But it doesn't matter to her.
She has to throw some red meat to the growing far left within her party.
She can't cut herself off from George Soros money, and she is even willing to throw a heroic general in front of the bus, in order for her to satisfy, the leftist extremists, in Moveon.Org and The Daily Kos.
America is still conservative, and I don't see them electing a female President, whom they don't like, who doesn't respect the military, has so much baggage, and now is trying to force them into socialized medicare like Fidel Castro and Kim Junk Ill force on their poor citizens.
She is also loose with the truth and seen as very manipulative.
I am happy to see her running for President and I hope she wins the nomination.
alive
4 years ago
sh*t disturber
IAMC: You are deliberately trying to provoke an argument!
I hope you have no takers.
G West
4 years ago
Nope n/bloom
Obama gets top billing - dynasties suck and hill is too tied to cash contributions from the old style gang.
If she wins - nothin' much happens. Obama wins...whole new ball game. And no first man nonsense either...Bill and Hill would be better off retired in Harlem ...but she has to have her innings so VP it is.
G West
4 years ago
Even those that don't have Ron, where do you get these ideas?
You might want to read this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2167865,00.html
nightbloom
4 years ago
Quote:If she wins - nothin'
What are you basing that on - his militant posturings on Iran perhaps...?
Hillary is attempting to introduce a variant of universal health coverage. Imperfect, perhaps. But improvable, with time. It's a revolutionary precedent for the U.S. and a total departure from traditional conceptions of American society. Things don't have to always go "bang" to be revolutionary.
Bot
4 years ago
Mitt Romney is a Christian
The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is often misunderstood by Evangelical preachers . . Some accuse the Church of not believing in Christ and, therefore, not being a Christian religion . . http://mormonsarechristian.blogspot.com/ helps to clarify such misconceptions by examining early (First Century) Christianity's theology relating to baptism, the Godhead, the deity of Jesus Christ and His Atonement.
The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) adheres to Early Christian theology more closely than other Christian denominations. Perhaps the reason the Evangelical preachers promote this mis-representation is to protect their flock (and their livlihood).
G West
4 years ago
Hillary
She's simply same old, same old. Her fascination with money, influence and the same sort of celebrity BS that clouded Bill's presidency is in her genes.
Obama may still be co-opted - you're right, that's certainly a possibility - but Hillary's been part of the American money mess all her life. She was a Republican in College and she's been an elitist all her life.
Barack comes from the other side of the tracks and he knows it; he also appears not to be afraid to actually stand up and say it. He's the only candidate who speaks to 'all' Americans and particularly the most powerless ones in what I take to be an authentic way. He represents the ‘new’ America; the America of polyglot, of mixture; the America of speaking across communities not just to your own community, the America of possibility and reform, of turning back to what’s good and away from what pays, to recognizing the potential and not the threat of the immigrant. I could go on and he’ll probably disappoint – But Hillary already has…
If you didn't see the youtube clip of Hill pretending to 'talk' black on Martin Luther King day last year - you ought to - it was high farce delivered like a sermonette.
She's a phony - and a power grubbing one...The idea that a country of 300 million souls needs to find its modern leadership from a handful of professional political families over and over again is the MOST depressing thing about this.
What, exactly, has Hillary ever done to earn your respect?
Hillary is so concerned with parsing her views on the Iraq misadventure that she could double for doofuss John Kerry. Furthermore, she's trying too hard to 'appear' to be tough to have any credibility as a real reformer.
The recognition that someone needs to do 'something' about US health care isn't 'radical' it's obvious.
BLONDE PITBULL
4 years ago
US politics....
Last presidental election in '04 someone asked me who I liked/would vote for. My answer was none of them. Then this person asked why and I told them "out of 300 million peple those are the best they could come up with". Fresh blood is definitely needed. Will it happen? not fricken likely.
apollyon
4 years ago
Fear of Atheism
Its very interesting the fear of atheists mentioned at the bottom.
Americans would rather have a muslim, after all there charged-up fear and hate toward them since 9-11 (and before) than an atheist. They are that scared of atheism.
Not to mention that most polls also show that atheism is more prevalent with higher amounts of education. Thus America's biggest fear is those candidates that are likely the highest educated.
No wonder that country is so fucked.
avandoc
4 years ago
Superficial nonsense
This article is illuminating in its vacuity. The US political process is driven by personality and image. No mention of policy by Canesco because the MSM clients of his polling employer aren't interested in that. Give them that old-time religion, throw in some racial profiling, add a soupcon of marital infidelity, and you have an election story. Voters in the US will debate whether a Mormom is a Christian or not; meanwhile, fewer and fewer of them have access to health care and the middle class is disappearing. But it works for the tiny proportion of people at the top--they're having a roaring success amassing millions!
aftermath
4 years ago
Choosing a pres from Opinion polls
It seems ironic that the article on the new president focuses almost exclusively on what the polls way about the chances of each candidate - who would be willing to vote for a type of candidate!
Isn't the point of selecting a political leader the realization that their view of the world fits most closely with that of the voter? It is a sorry state of affairs when a person will not consider voting for a candidate because of their gender, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation - even should that person best represent their personal viewpoints.
That a person's traits define their winnability goes a long way in explaining why President Bush has seldom been called to account for his dangerous course - and why the next presidential campaign will not likely deal with the real problem in the United States - they have a democracy which is no longer democratic.
Jack's
4 years ago
Tyee discussing race????
Can't believe it - I thought Tyee is now too squeaky clean for such a venture!
alive
4 years ago
spindoctoring
Well, that is how it should be; still Gordo got re-elected even after he had showed his mean streak!
That pretty well proves that the average voter is swayed by the media instead of by facts!
NDP never fared well with a female leader, federally or provincially, so perhaps we also have a bias?
Yammer
4 years ago
Uh oh
I complete agree with Gwest!
Hillary is a creature of the pharmaceutical industry, the notion of the professional political leader family is inherently gross and appalling, and nostalgia for the Clinton regime is, IMO, much more to do with fondness for an articulate, handsome sax-player in light of his successor's evident not-smartness, rather than a glowing assessment of that presidency, which bungled health reform and featured Clinton's curious re-enactment of Wag The Dog at the expense of the Sudan.
I like some of the things that John Edwards has to say. Kucinich also, but he might be too democratic for the Dems, in the same way that Ron Paul is way too conservative for the Republicans.
Obama/Edwards has a nice ring to it.
G West
4 years ago
Yammer let bells ring out and banners fly!
I like Edwards too - my sense of it is that if Obama heads the ticket the Dems will give Hillary the booby prize...but Edwards would be a lot better.
Fogotwillingate
4 years ago
US Regime Change
If our American friends picked their president at random off tax files, they would do better than the goof that now holds the office. A minority leader would be a good thing, to shake up the old "white guard." However, I have to question the honesty of Barack Obama. Although reports of education in an Indonesian madrasa have been discredited, he did take instruction in Islam in a public school in that country.
Few are aware that the name "Barack" is an Islamic name for the winged horse that the Muslim "prophet," Muhammed, claimed to have flown to "the furthest mosque," on his "night journey" to hell and heaven. The fact that Obama kept a Muslim name could indicate at least fusion of Islam with his current practice of Christianity. Obama has not answered questions - posed by World Net Daily and others - concerning possible foundation of his values in Islam. That is significant because while Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, and other have a reform tradition, Islam does not.
George Bush's dogmatic approach to social issues was tested; Obama should accept similar scrutiny.
Yammer
4 years ago
America likes horses
Sarah Jessica Parker has her second perfume out. (Runs)
G West
4 years ago
Are you a member of the swift boat old guare
Question all you like...from the tone of your post, Fogotwillingate, I'd say you're coming across as pretty prejudical and not so much questioning.
Not that it matters, there are a number of branches of Islam - some quite reform minded.
I suggest YOU do a little more research - into both Islam AND Barack Obama's background.
oeanda
4 years ago
really, anyone who looks at
really, anyone who looks at the current field on either side and sees anything "new" - besides kucinich and gravel - has their head up their arse. clinton really is the industrial military complex' frontwoman on the democratic ticket. if you want corporations to control america, vote clinton/giuliani.
one thing i noticed, living in the US, is how complacent a people they are. health care, even the best private health care, sucks. having heard my explanation of what health care is like in canada - warts and all - they cast down their eyes and kick the dirt: "oh, i wish we had that." i kept asking: "how do you guys live like this?"
the rub is, they can have whatever they want, but at every opportunity they refuse it. all they have to do is use their brains to pick the player with the solid, rational policy but they don't. they let the pundits lead them to the abattoir.
Fogotwillingate
4 years ago
The Barack is Back
G West:
Didn't mean to offend. I only threw out some facts based on my study of Islam, especially Fiqh (jurisprudence). Sects are tolerated within Islam - except where they challenge political leaders who claim adherence to Islamic governance - because their self-annointed "prophet" is quoted predicting sectarianism. But extermination for apostasy will fall on Muslims, when the "end of days" is proclaimed. That is a problem because there is no one group of Muslims greater than 15% of all who claim to be Muslims, that does not recognize the rest of his nominal co-religists as "apostates." That is a lot of homicidal intent. Which sect is moderate?
1 Sunnism
Schools of Fiqh (jurisprudence): Hanafi, Deobandi, Barelwi, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi,
Schools of Kalam (scholasticism): Shari, Maturidi, Murjite, Mutazili,
3 Shi`ism
Twelvers, Usooli, Akhbari, Shaykhi, Alawi, Alevi, Ismailiyah, Nizari, Druze, Bohras,
Dawoodi Bohras, Sulamaini Bohras, Alavi Bohras. Zaiddiyah
4 Kharijite Sects
Ibadi, Sufri
5 Sufi Orders
Bektashi, Chishti, Naqshbandi, Oveyssi, Qadiri, Suhrawardiyya
6 Movements within sects
Salafism, Wahhabism, Islamism, Tablighi Jamaat
7 Other sects
Zikri, Ahmadiyya, Nation of Islam, Moorish Science, Submitters, Qur’an Alone
G West
4 years ago
Well
I guess I'd start with Ismaili Muslims; move on to Sufism and then suggest the Muslim Brotherhood (al-Ikhwan al-Muslimeen) they all reject global jihad and embrace
democracy. The fact that some members of Ikhwan also disagree with U.S. foreign policy, especially Washington’s
support for Israel, doesn't mean they're not moderate after all.
There was an interesting article about the Brotherhood, rather detailed, in an early 2007 edition of Foreign Affairs.
dr evil
4 years ago
dumbed down terribly
Working union alongside Yank non-union contractors
had to listen to them calling down unions all the time..you know.. unions stifle incentive..I don`t need to hide behind no union..etc.
and yet..they were always complaining about their low wages..straight time for overtime, working straight time weekends..expected to bleed in the company colours etc. etc.
You know..maybe you should try a union dude..
nice guys..always offering around pieces of gum...but..dumber `n sticks
aftermath
4 years ago
Pundits with an agenda!
I look at the words of oeanda and find myself agreeing with the sentiments.
Americans do seem to have a sense of believing their pundits, even when it seems apparent to those outside the country, that the pundits are on a mission of "dumbing down" the population. The level of perceived oppostion to policies is very low. This opposition seems remarkably less heard when it comes to issues of foreign policy and, yes, enemies (war).
I remember the "public opinion" programs of the early 90s, when even those who were soft on war could not bring themselves to ask when Kuwait had become democratic. The American government, in the end, seemed more intent on preserving oil reserves than in protecting the citizens of Kuwait.
Is Barack better or worse than Hillary? Do any of the potential nexr leaders of the most powerful nation on earth have anything more than different source of money to provide them with power?
How is it that the country which perceives itself as the champion of freedom seems so undemocratic?
Underneath the surface there is opposition, but it has a very limited voice. My guess is that none of the candidates seeking either parties' top positions is independent enough to be the breath of fresh air the Americans - and the rest of the world - deserve.
poindexter
4 years ago
Remember - Just say NO to
Remember - Just say NO to Osama, Obama, and Chelsea's Momma!!
aftermath
4 years ago
NO to WHO - or should that be WHAT
Rather than a NO to certain candidates, how about a NO to a political system which invites you to vote for an electoral college.
At least we are considering electoral reform in Canada. Now if only we can get over our fear of coanlitions and minority governments!
DJG
4 years ago
The Election will be a plebiscite Irag War
Regardless of the candidates, the Presidential election is going to a plebiscite on the Irag war.
My opinion:- A Democrate will win because the average american wants their soldiers out of Irag.