Opinion

Salmon Genes, Discuss

Should science fiddle with salmon genetics? We put 26 people in a room to test the question -- and 'deliberative democracy.'

By David Secko and Emma Cohen, 23 Mar 2009, TheTyee.ca

Salmon, fish heads

Stylish genes you got there.

Fish is not something that usually makes us tense, but we didn't know what to expect.

We had invited 26 regular B.C. folk to Vancouver to discuss their hopes and concerns for sequencing the salmon genome. That is, obtaining all the genes in a salmon.

Fine topic for scientists, maybe policy makers, and perhaps salmon farmers. But for retired factory workers, students, nurses and everyday you and me, what would we talk about when we heard Canada, Norway and Chile are planning to decipher the genetic code of the Atlantic salmon?

If you're perplexed by the topic choice, we prayed they wouldn't be. But we were edgy since we hadn't been at many parties where salmon genetics led the conversation. Now we take hope from a comment of one invited guest on what such a gathering of citizens can yield: "Scientists can teach us and maybe we can teach the scientists."

A different spin on democracy

We had been thinking about the topic of salmon genes for several years as part of a research project at UBC's W. Maurice Young Centre for Applied Ethics (led by Michael Burgess). We saw the field of genetics proceeding rapidly forward. We vigorously discussed the far-reaching ethical, social and cultural impacts of some basic science and its applications. We felt some voices were not always heard, worse yet, not even asked.

Democracy doesn't always add up to all the voices in the country. While everyone can speak up, small voices are often muted by bigger ones.

Technical and expertise-laden fields like science and technology don't always allow regular people to sit at the decision table. Those people who might not know what a gene is or what it means to have a salmon genome, but nevertheless know what it means to live in this country and see it change. Their absence is a shame.

So when we got wind of a change in democratic theory, we perked up. Decades old and well-debated in some circles, deliberative democracy theorized that perhaps we should supplement electoral representation -- for example majority rule where voters elect decision-makers -- with processes that allow people to learn deeply about a topic, debate it with others, then come to a collective decision (or a recognition of a persistent disagreement) on advice for what government policies might look like.

Some similar recent experiments

Examples of such deliberative processes in Canada include the B.C. Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform that ended in December 2004 and the Ontario Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform that ended in May 2007. The idea is to foster an environment that allows strong public input and citizen reflection on the chosen topic.

In 2007, our project also held a deliberative event on biobanking -- collections of biological materials and information. We worked to enable deliberation by recruiting participants with diverse life experiences (21 people from across B.C. in this case), efficiently informing participants without allowing powerful interests to capture their point of view, by motivating participants to reflect on the issue, and by avoiding premature consensus.

Let's be clear: the idea is not to abandon our system of voters electing decision-makers. Instead, it is to design robust processes that allow strong public input into pressing social questions. And not every problem is one that should be deliberated on, in this way.

Passion, hopes, concern

With this thinking, we turned to deciphering the genetic code of salmon. This is a research endeavour that may lead to applications that will help us to conserve a species under stress. It may also enable directed-breeding or genetic modification of salmon. So what do we as citizens hope this information will be used for? And what are we concerned about?

On two weekends in November 2008, these questions were put to 26 randomly recruited people from across B.C. and we hoped for more than just a forced discussion.

From this group of total strangers, we heard voices. We heard strong voices. We heard people empowered and speaking of democracy again.

Many people in B.C. have strong views about salmon, so holding a discussion about salmon genes was stimulating and difficult. One deliberant described the deep connection he feels toward salmon: "If the salmon go, I'm finished too. That is how much a part of me it is. Both physically and spiritually." (As a research project, we promised to keep the names of the participants that deliberated confidential.)

Such connections put everyone on alert. We were together to talk about a fish some participants took very seriously. "[T]he fish brings us together again," added another participant.

Salmon genes and me

Two weekends made it clear that some people were more in favour of sequencing a salmon genome than others and some were altogether opposed. Some even questioned what we were getting: "I kind of doubt that knowing all the genes really tells you anything... I mean knowing all of my genes doesn't tell you who I am. It may tell you something about me, but it doesn't tell you everything about who I am. I think probably the same thing is true for salmon."

Others saw solutions to a damaged B.C. environment. "Well, my hope is... the study of the genome can tell us if the salmon can overcome the changes [in the environment] without us having to modify anything first," said a male participant whose passion is salmon sports fishing. But concerns were still there, namely that if someone does decide to alter the salmon genome, that these changes don't "have a devastating effect on the salmon or the environment."

An overarching message was that caution is needed when applying the knowledge from salmon genes to avoid unforeseen dangers. "[G]enomics will be seen as a quick fix for human-made problems and society won't put the effort or resources into other solutions," reflected one participant.

Looking wider

Some might feel discussions with the public on prospective, abstract research applications cannot yield useful information. But these 26 citizens engaged in boisterous and critical reflection on what they want their future with salmon to be like, as well as what government policies that help build this future should value.

Looking wider, biotechnology policy in Canada affects our health, wealth and environment, and is often dominated by powerful interests. This experiment on salmon genes is an example of how to enable informed public deliberation on the direction of these policies. The next step is to bridge research and policy. "I was thinking one of my big hopes is that somebody, policy makers or somebody in government, actually listens to what's coming out of this," concluded a participant.

Deliberative democracy is not a cure all. It is an expensive and time-consuming process. As an approach to improving political representation and civic deliberation it also requires careful evaluation to avoid the mere appearance of enhanced legitimacy. The party over, our fish-based tension was wonderfully cooked. Twenty-six chefs in the kitchen make for a complex dish.

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  • Bobb999

    2 years ago

    Please sign Alexandra Morton's salmon petition

    On a related note, marine biologist Alexandra Morton is gathering e-signatories for an online petition requesting governments apply the Fisheries Act to the fish farm industry, in order to protect dwindling wild salmon stocks.

    The petition has 5,000+ signatures so far.
    It needs yours too!

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=cEkxX3p3MGFBbWNVVGNVU3lxQnBwQmc6MA..

  • AlexPeacemaker

    2 years ago

    applying a more full scientific method

    I would like to bring another issue to the debate, and that is the relevance of the Sinixt Native Indian history re: the origin of all salmon.

    First a bit of background about the Sinixt Mother Tribe. The Sinixt are the original people of the Upper Columbia River Conifer (what is presently called the W. Kootenays).

    Few people today have ever heard the Sinixt name and that is because the Sinixt
    were specifically marked for genocide during the colonial conquest of this land and the Sinixt hold the distinction of being the only Native Nation in all of Canada to be officially declared extinct by a Federal Order in Council (1956).

    The Sinixt history identifies the bull-trout as the ancestral progenator of all salmon species. The bull-trout is scientifically known to only originate in the headwaters of the Columbia River Basin (traditional Sinixt territory) and recently scientific indicators are vectoring the bull-trout as the progenator of all salmon species.

    Of related interest is the name Sinixt itself which literally translates as (Sin -place of and ixt - the bull trout). Furthermore, the Sinixt identify another - even more ancient indigenous fish to the Upper Columbia River Conifer that is the ancestor of all fish species including the bull-trout. Hopefully this further paleo-clue may be of interest to genetic science.

    In this particular study of the genetics of salmon, a lot can be added to the scientific overview if the sciences have the perspecuity to investigate the veracity of the ancient traditional Native Indian historical codecis.

    Genetic science, like any science, must always establish verifiable benchmarks. It has been obvious in genetic science for many years that the lineage of the family tree / species tree is a marker of central importance. Perhaps then it is time for astute scientists to consult with those people who have retained an ancient thread with the proto-history of this region. In the case of the Pacific Salmon these people are the Sinixt Mother Tribe.

    Hopefully forward thinking scientists will study and document these matters before the bull-trout habitat is irrevocably damaged or destroyed. There is a new molydemun mine, they have put right on the headwaters of the Shwan'ix'qa (The Upper Columbia River Conifer). This mine on the shore of Trout Lake/the Lardeau concerns the Sinixt Peoples very much as it should concern all. Do fair-minded people want the headwaters of the ‘ixt’ destroyed before we even learn the secrets it holds?

    If anyone would like to further inquire into this I would recomend that you first contact Marilyn James - Appointed Sinixt Spokesperson (M.A. Native Adviser / Selkirk College) tel. 250 226-6726

    and Sinixt Chief Bob Campbell 250 226-6743.
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    Best regards
    Alex Peacemaker (associate member Sinixt Nation Society)

  • schessor

    2 years ago

    Evolution

    From the Fisheries and Oceans pamphlet The Incredible Salmonids:
    "Each salmon returns to its own stream of origin to spawn. The groups of a given species which home on certain streams are known as "stocks." There are substantial differences between one stock and another. Each has a specific genetic make-up, and is thus adapted to its own waterway. Eggs from southern sockeye stocks, for example, do not incubate successfully in colder northern streams. Man-made or natural disasters which wipe out a particular stock are devastating, since it takes tens of thousands of years for evolution to create the proper genetic program for a stock."

  • AlexPeacemaker

    2 years ago

    applying full scientific inquirey

    The Sinixt Mother Tribe of this region's back-yard so to speak -> The Upper Columbia River Headwaters Conifor (Sinixt is pronounced Sin Eye Xt) make a very emphatic statement that their historical records speak significantly about the genetic origin of not only the salmon, but even further back in the paleo-origin of life on our planet, they identify another overlooked species that the Sinixt assert, when cross vectored genetically, will be identified as the mother species of all fish.

    And to think this great untold story is right in our own backyards. We hope scientists will have enough perspecuity to study this ancient incubator-of-life while the headwaters of the Shwan'ix'qa (The Upper Columbia River Conifer)is still relatively unpolluted and unchanged. This
    new molydemun mine, they have put right on the headwaters of Trout Lake/the Lardeau (not far to the north of the town of Kaslo)- makes it rather urgent that genetic science put the Sinixt claims to scientific method before the headwaters of the Columbia Basin are compromised.
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    in good spirit
    Alex Peacemaker

    molydemun mine, they have put right on the headwaters

  • AlexPeacemaker

    2 years ago

    Forthcoming Sinixt Movie

    Max Frobe's forthcoming movie about the Sinixt in short preview on Youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avrnCkaBxLM

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