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Thinking Outside the Box Store
A good place to start: South Vancouver.
This is 'EcoDensity'? An existing Canadian Tire outlet.
The stated object of Mayor Sullivan's EcoDensity initiative is to reduce Vancouver's "eco-footprint" by cutting energy use and waste, while improving livability and housing affordability.
These goals are laudable, but will EcoDensity actually live up to its billing?
The apparent willingness of the mayor and some councillors to significantly expand big box development in South Vancouver is clearly at odds with EcoDensity.
The environmental and social benefits of density are due to economies of location, mainly achieved through growth of neighbourhood centres with diverse functions.
In sharp contrast, big box retail exploits economies of scale, relying on a widely dispersed customer base, public subsidies for car owners, and plenty of cheap parking.
"Green" building design of a box store does not alter its fundamental dependency on cars and fossil fuels.
And while multi-chain big box plantations can be cost-effective and convenient for car-owning consumers, it's always at the expense of commercial diversity and stability in central and neighbourhood business districts. Retailers in our pedestrian-oriented centres pay premium rents for their location, often with limited or pricey parking. Big box retailers compete unfairly by converting lower-cost industrial land to retail use, while asking us all to suffer the consequences of car dependency.
Canadian Tire's massive ambitions
The question before Vancouver City Council is an application by Canadian Tire for a 255,000 square-foot "big box" retail development that is expected to generate up to 11,000 car trips per day on heavily congested Marine Drive. The site is within a part of the Marine Drive Industrial Area that the city, in a controversial decision, designated as appropriate for "highway-oriented retail." It is bordered on the north by a low density residential neighbourhood.
There are a number of fundamental problems with this proposal, but I will point to just one: A few years ago rooftop parking was accepted as a cost-effective alternative to underground parking for large-format retail in an urban context. Now it is correctly viewed as waste of a prime surface which, on top of levels serving housing, offices, manufacturing etc., could be used for energy and food production, or recreational space, including gardens.
This is indicative of the shift from an anti-city/pro-suburban paradigm to a sustainable city paradigm, and which coincides with a shift in emphasis from consumption to conservation. These corrective changes are not optional; the stability of Earth's ecosystems and the survival of our civilization are at stake.
Not just about labour practices
In 2005, when council rejected expanding highway-oriented retail on South Marine Drive, Coun. Sullivan inferred that opposition to the proposed developments stemmed chiefly from objections to the labour practices of one of the applicants (Wal-Mart). It is unfortunate that this red herring has clouded debate. Corporate citizenship, while important, is a separate topic. This is a question of civic responsibility. Does a vast big box zone in South Vancouver meet contemporary public health standards and community planning practices? The answer is a clear and emphatic No.
An almost identical proposal by Canadian Tire was rejected at that time because, like the Wal-Mart proposal, it did not meet Vancouver's development objectives. In the interim the bar of sustainability has been raised considerably.
If it is clear that, overall, a huge big box mall would expand our eco-footprint, why not have instead a truly sustainable community which could reduce it?
A different vision for South Vancouver
Here we have an opportunity to grow that community. Let's call it "South Vancouver Sustainable Community" (SVSC).
What makes this area so appropriate for greater diversity, intensity and density is its accessibility to the midtown and downtown business districts, as well as Richmond Centre and the airport, via the Canada Line and the Main Street Showcase bus service.
Transit helps facilitate diversity, which in turn distributes ridership throughout the day, not just at peak travel times. This means that spaces are not only more densely occupied, but used more diversely and intensively, as in a healthy, abundant ecosystem.
High density is no panacea; without diversity and intensity it becomes a burden, not a benefit.
If we allow ourselves to think outside the big industrial box and the big retail box, and instead consider our city's most pressing needs, it becomes clear that here is a golden opportunity to build affordable housing,
Big Box Hearing
There will be a public hearing at city hall to consider the rezoning in South Vancouver to accommodate Canadian Tire's plans on November 13, starting at 7:30 p.m.
Why not affordable housing?
Not many years ago, under the old "anti-city" paradigm, it would be unthinkable to integrate housing with industrial uses (even warehousing); but successful real-world examples, here and elsewhere, demonstrate that with reasonably benign performances and appropriate infrastructure, a variety of uses are not only compatible, but symbiotic.
It is essential that we promote and support walking, cycling and transit as the principal means of getting around. SVSC would make it feasible to integrate the costs of transit and land development through a C-pass (for community), similar in concept to the U-pass that has already proved successful in reducing car dependency at UBC and SFU.
With affordable and effective public transit as the dominant mode, a co-op featuring low or no-emission vehicles will be a convenient, cost-effective alternative to private cars.
Retail is a vital component of this alternative future, and a diverse, densely populated neighbourhood with excellent transit service should be able to support some relatively large outlets, adding moderate economies of scale to the environmentally friendly economies of location.
Vancouver has already demonstrated this by judiciously integrating sizeable retail outlets into existing districts without disrupting neighbourhood fabric or human scale -- an example being the second-storey Future Shop, with smaller stores at street level, on West Broadway.
SVSC would also be an excellent location for cultural amenities, of which there are currently few in South Vancouver, and a good fit for the north side of Marine Drive where moderate-scale densification is supported in the Community Vision.
Big box = EcoDensity?
SVSC is no dreamed-up utopia. It is based on sound practices in planning and economics. That said, it is an idea that will require public discussion, analysis, modification, and fleshing out, as well as negotiations with the principal landowners before an area plan is produced.
But it is something that many people -- including families with children -- would be very excited about helping to create and inhabit. Vancouver is the right city to pioneer this kind of development. South Marine Drive is the right place to build it.
Big box EcoDensity is an oxymoron. What we need now is a public process to determine a mix and scale of development for South Marine Drive that is socially, environmentally and economically sustainable.
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By locating on B.C. First Nation reserves, the box store giant may avoid zoning hassles and save millions.



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IAMC
4 years ago
It's your choice
If you as a special interest group can somehow gang against a major corporation, in order to prevent them from doing business in your particular geographic area, then that is your right.
It's free market economics working like it should.
If a particular group of residents warn a major corporation that they have no support in their neighborhood, then all is well. Pack it up and get out of town, major corporation.
The major corporation may decide to locate in another area. Unless the anti big box major corporation types get major political support, this will happen.
Then all of the people who lived in that particular geographic area that had a special interest group, opposed to big box major corporations locating in their neighborhood, will essentially forced all their neighbors to pack up the family, in the SUV, and drive to another area that is not dominated by a special interest group opposed to big box major corporations in their particular neighborhood.
I am repeating myself?
Is this argument repeating itself?
werdnagreb
4 years ago
IAMC
Your argument doesn't make any sense. Vancouver already has 4 Canadian tire stores. If people want to go to a Canadian Tire, there are plenty to go to already.
As the author states, this is not about special interest groups. Rather, this is about Mayor Sullivan's own eco-density initiative. If he is to eat his own dog food, then he must reject the application for the store.
Cynic
4 years ago
It's always interesting to
It's always interesting to see a comment like this one:
"It's free market economics working like it should."
Is there a "free market"? Central banks intervene in the markets regularly to achieve what they want. Every stock has its handlers. Da Boyz on Wall Street fleece the suckers every day with manipulations, pump and dump, short squeezes, and more. Currency markets and commodities markets, casinos really, are all subject to manipulation by elite traders. Not to mention the private banks' near monopoly on printing money.
There is no such thing as a free market.
Grumpy
4 years ago
There is no such thing as a free market.
Absolutely right.
Van Isle
4 years ago
Just another example of
Just another example of everyone saying that they're "Green" is just a bunch of bafflegab and bullshit. On the subject on "Freemarket", that always has been just a bunch of bafflegab and bullshit.
clubofrome
4 years ago
Painfully obvious
It's now more than painfully obvious to everyone except IMAC that bigger is not better. That the short sighted wealth creation cycle using oil/energy to fuel this false economy is coming into a transition period. Except we don't exactly know what we'll transition to yet. What undiscovered resource is just lying around out there waiting to be found that will replace the massive growth period we've seen with the oil/industrial/wealth creation era. Where we grew from less than a billion people to over 6.5 in around 200 years? Created wealth and a society from the promise of cheap energy. Then kicked it into overdrive with greed and consumption. Did you think that we'd just get away with this forever? As Oil passes peak production and the price rises, alternatives will become economically viable as the criminally insane continue to try and squeeze more profit from an already overtaxed mother earth. There will be a transition that is for sure. But what we better start to grasp is that the end of growth is coming. We'll be lucky to be able to maintain half of what we've built. Massive cities, roads, infrastructure all based on oil. The most recent studies from Europe said we reached the peak in production in 2006. They can't get a good read on the Saudi fields but suspect they are also in serious decline. The USA and their world police guns for hire, are now in protection of what they consider their strategic reserves, witness Iraq. The world still buys oil in US dollars. Otherwise the US is broke. They get to play bully for a while longer though, until the people of this planet can wise up and see through the smoke and mirrors that is war for energy. Ed has had it right all along. Wealth is the temporary control of energy and the elite don't mind sending you to your death to protect their way of life. We have about a generation left to turn this around, so while you all sit around debating liberal vs conservative, republican vs democrat and other useless rhetoric, the clock is ticking.
END GROWTH NOW Just prove that what we have now is sustainable. Prove that we can maintain our infrastructure NOW without unchecked economic growth. Anyone?
TTTT
4 years ago
I'm Pissed at Cdn Tire on Cambie
They have a store that is too large to be properly staffed so they DEMAND that you remove your backpacks, etc before entering.
Totally out of touch with Vancouver values - I have to use a plastic bag? I have to surrender my valuables to you prior to entering?
I doubt that Cdn Tire will be any different in S. Van
I cannot wait for the Home Depot to open up nearby because I have never had the same intrusive bullshit applied to me in their stores - even though they are morte expensive I will go there rather have to fight and argue or surrender my bag.
Cdn Tirte is a shitty retail/corporate citizen that doesn't give a fuck about Vancouver or Vancouverites at all.
TTTT
4 years ago
oh and I bike a lot
so it totally fucks me - may backpak - or saddle bags I used them - are essential to me and ino, Vancouver life.
clubofrome
4 years ago
Funny
Let's call it the Jetsons vs Flintstones debate!! Most people believe that the future will become progressively more advanced, but the science, right now anyway says were going a few steps back. Maybe one day we'll move ahead but those days are based on dreams of new technology. Good luck with your research on that!
TTTT
4 years ago
that shoulda been "my backpack"
that shoulda been "my backpack" - sorry 'bout that
woody
4 years ago
Its the Vancouver Way.
Go figure,don't minimizie the pollution. Prevent people from shopping locally and supporting a competitive Canadian company. But rather, make them drive to, then sit in a cross border line up, idling for two hours,( no Vancouver 3 min. anti idling bylaw here to worry about ,eh,) to go support a foreign firm. Its the Vancouver way ,send the garbage to trash creek and vehicle pollution to Surrey and Blaine.
Martin
4 years ago
Choice is good
The South Van proposals were nixed by the last council because of Wal-Mart. Anyone who went to the hearings, saw the protest signs and listened to the speeches knows that. Saying that it was a "higher purpose" like green reasons is a crock. Poor little Canadian Tire just got caught in the crossfire.
The UFCW is a main backer of most of these efforts to protest any expansion of Wal-Mart, for the same, selfish economic reasons under which we all operate.
Personally, I think that anything that expands consumer choice is a good idea. The sorry state of retail in South Van is a great example of an area that needs better consumer choice. I'm looking forward to this area being a major draw for shoppers from all across South Van.
G West
4 years ago
Martin
You're feeling you don't have "enough" consumer choice now.
What exactly are you having trouble finding in the existing cookie-cutter retail environment?
BC Mary
4 years ago
Harrumph.
Trouble starts when human beings are called "consumers".
And their food, shoes, gasoline, lumber are called "product".
Umslopogaas
4 years ago
Vancouver
I am so thankful that I no longer live in Vancouver...if you can call that type of existence living.
sheeplessinvancouver
4 years ago
Big Box Retail in Existing Neighbourhoods
"Vancouver has already demonstrated this by judiciously integrating sizeable retail outlets into existing districts without disrupting neighbourhood fabric or human scale -- an example being the second-storey Future Shop, with smaller stores at street level, on West Broadway."
Yes, but the same neighbourhood managed to block Home Depot from putting in a boutique store at the site of the IGA Marketplace on West Broadway and Arbutus.
When I pointed out that the IGA parking lot was an eyesore and a new building with underground parking would be better for the neighbourhood, they said it would hurt business at the local hardware/lumber stores even though there is no lumber/hardware store within walking distance.
"SVSC would also be an excellent location for cultural amenities, of which there are currently few in South Vancouver, and a good fit for the north side of Marine Drive where moderate-scale densification is supported in the Community Vision."
You still have to drive to cultural amenities in out of the way places like Main and Marine. Maybe that will change once the RAV line opens. Still, I can't see myself walking down a noisy Marine Drive at 10:00 p.m. (or any time of day for that matter) to catch the Skytrain.
The author never mentions that Vancouver already has many "ecodense" neighbourhoods like Kitsilano, Kerrisdale, Commercial Drive, the West End and South Main. Their walkability and relatively good public transit is one reason they're so popular.
So, vote with your feet. Walk, bike, take public transit and don't shop there when it opens.
rac
4 years ago
It Is Over Two and a Half Times Larger than the Cambie Store
This store is way bigger than it needs to be to offer consumer choice.
The new format "Concept 20/20" stores average around 50,000 sq ft. The new store at Cambie and 7th is 50,000 sq ft. The old Canadian Tire stores average 16,000 sq ft.
The massive proposed store at Ontario and SW Marine is a staggering 134,000 sq ft. Over two and a half times larger than the Cambie store and eight times larger than the old Canadian Tire stores. This store to be successful will require people to drive from all over Vancouver.
This is not your fathers Canadian Tire. This is a big box monster.
Fii
4 years ago
Speaking of~ IKEA
I went on a wee roadtrip to the Richmond location today with a couple of friends (they both 'needed' way more stuff than I did, and I'm happy to say, I spent only $10 :) but I got a good laugh while waiting for them at the check-out. There was a sign re: bags, reminding people to be eco-friendly and "only take what you need", and I thought "What?? This whole store is mostly about what you DON'T need!" I thought it was pretty funny...
eileen mcg
4 years ago
Canadian Tire Big Box
Most of the comments focus on the negative aspects of a big box store rather than Ned's insightful alternative. The redevelopement should reflect the potential of the area. With fabulous views of the Frazer River throw up some artists lofts. Mix in multi-use complexes with housing above and retail below. Provide work spaces, add in relief with green space and a few coffee shops and you have an hub - much like the many successful neighbourhoods throughout Vancouver.
As stated in the article, develop the entire area an experiment in sustainabilty. And finally send the white elephant rambling on its way to the farthest reaches of the universe.
Andrea from Bec...
4 years ago
I used to be against big box
I used to be against big box stores. I live downtown and try to keep a small eco footprint. But the eco-dense downtown stores do nothing to make me at home. I've got two small kids. It's impossible to wheel around a stroller in most of the stores. The racks are so close together that I can't walk down the aisle while holding my child's hand. There aren't any change tables, even in coffee shops. It's hard to find somewhere to sit so I can nurse. So, guess what? I hop in the car and go to Park Royal, Oakridge or, sometimes, the 7th & Cambie Canadian Tire. Those places also offer cool shopping carts (like fire trucks or race cars) so that my older child will actually go in the stroller for a while. And you know what? There are hundreds of parents downtown. If even a few stores made it easier to be a parent, they'd see increased sales.
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