Top execs devoid of consciences cost insurers big money. Tests could weed them out.
Regulating rogue bankers isn't working. Instead, insurers could require tests to bar psychopaths from boardrooms. CEO image via Shutterstock.

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Way ahead of Occupiers, US founding leaders raged against powerful, corrupting financiers.
Have bankers gone psycho? It seems hardly a week passes without another example of corporate fraud, rogue traders, rate fixing, and money laundering. Five years after the 2007 economic meltdown that wiped out $14 trillion of U.S. household wealth, the world's financiers seem to be behaving badly as ever and don't care who knows it. Perhaps expecting normal human behavior from many of these individuals is unrealistic because they are not normal -- they are psychopaths.
Corporate corruption linked to personal psychopathy presents both a problem and an opportunity. Rather than further futile efforts at regulation, solving the creditability crisis of global financial institutions may instead involve psychological screening to exclude certain individuals from occupying positions of trust they are medically unqualified for. And if so, cleansing of the capitalist Star Chamber will not be lead by government, but by the private insurance industry -- guided by the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
Let's start with the fascinating and frightening subject of psychopathy. This condition is neither insanity nor a treatable mental illness. It is instead linked to physical abnormalities in the amygdala region of the brain and is perhaps best described by experts as "emotional deafness." While psychopaths can often convincingly feign normal human reactions in order to manipulate others, inside they feel nothing but shark-like self-interest.
This ancient scourge has likely plagued humankind since the dawn of time, undermining our ability to trust each other and build cohesive societies. While sometimes glamourized by Hollywood as a super power, psychopathy shows little evidence of evolutionary advantage even though the condition has a strong genetic signature. After 100,000 years of human history, only one per cent of the general population exhibits this affliction -- indicating that it is more parasitic than powerful.
A threat that can be screened
Only recently have scientists developed reliable screening methods to reveal people with this emotional disability, and such tests have been widely adopted in the criminal justice system. And while our jails are filled with people exhibiting this frightening trait, Dr. Robert Hare, a leading researcher in the field warns, "not all psychopaths are in prison. Some are in the boardroom."
Some researchers have directly linked the global financial crisis of 2007 to a growing prevalence of psychopaths in senior management of the financial sector. Dr. Clive Boddy believes that increasingly fluid corporate career paths have helped psychopaths conceal their disruptive workplace behavior and ascend to previously unattainable levels of authority. Boddy points out psychopaths are primarily attracted to money, status and power -- currently found in unparalleled abundance in the global banking sector. As if to prove the point, many of the world's money traders self identify as the "masters of the universe."
What little research has been done in field indicates that individuals with psychopathic traits are five times more common in senior management than the general population. And while psychopaths are tireless self-promoters, they are in fact poor performers and toxic managers. A study by Dr. Paul Babiak of 203 senior managers found those with psychopathic scores on screening tests scored lower on leadership, team building, performance and effective management. They are also 25 times more likely to engage in workplace bullying than normal humans.
How psychopaths get in
In spite of evidence to the contrary, employers often misjudge psychopaths as having strong characters that are "cool under fire." Babiak's study concluded, "our finding that some companies viewed psychopathic executives as having leadership potential, despite having negative performance reviews and low ratings on leadership and management by subordinates, is evidence of the ability of these individuals to manipulate decision makers. Their excellent communication and convincing lying skills, which together would have made them attractive hiring candidates in the first place, apparently continued to serve them well in furthering their careers."
Most importantly, besides being lousy leaders prone to risky or criminal behavior psychopaths fundamentally lack the ability to act in the interests of anyone but themselves. So how can they credibly act on behalf of their clients? Why do we tolerate a disproportionate number of people with this pathology being in charge of large aspects of global financial systems?
The banking sector has done little to address this issue, and may actively be making it worse. According to a first hand account by Brian Basham of The Independent, a banking colleague once confided to him, "At one major investment bank for which I worked, we used psychometric testing to recruit social psychopaths because their characteristics exactly suited them to senior corporate finance roles."
An accumulation of psychopaths in upper management would go a long way to explain the rash of reckless behavior and corporate fraud in the last decade. It also indicates that efforts by regulators to impose normal morality and lawfulness on the financial sector will continue to be futile.
Likewise, the legal tools available to shareholders or internal HR departments are also largely useless. Refusing to hire someone on the basis of psychopathic screening would be considered "prohibited discrimination" since it is unlawful to presume in advance that someone will commit a crime. Few companies would dare to internally screen senior managers for psychopathy, especially if there is no legal recourse to fire them.
A risk insurers can't afford
Which brings us to the insurance industry. Every company requires a variety of underwriting policies including, for directors and officers, liability insurance or fidelity coverage. Insurers are rightly fixated on risk management since they (and their shareholders) are on the hook when executives they underwrite go the way of Gordon Gekko.
Senior managers of financial companies have what is called "fiduciary duty" -- a legal obligation to act in the best interests of their clients and investors rather than themselves. Here's the rub: psychopaths simply cannot do that. They are medically impaired from acting in good faith on behalf of others.
Why isn't the insurance industry already insisting on psychopathic screening of senior managers for the companies they are covering? The rationale would be straightforward: psychopathy is a leading indicator of illegal or reckless behavior. Psychopaths should be excluded from positions that legally require fiduciary responsibility in the same way that blind people are not allowed to be airline pilots.
Insurance companies taking the lead on weeding out corporate psychopaths would also avoid a number of thorny legal issues that would face shareholders, employers or regulators seeking the same goal.
Any psychopaths identified through insurance pre-screening would not be denied employment, they would simply be deemed uninsurable. The result would be the same -- these dangerous individuals would need to find another, less influential line of work. But since insurance policies are simple legal contracts between two parties, there would be no recourse for psychopaths to launch costly legal challenges against employers based on wrongful dismissal.
Free capitalism to function rationally
This solution would also negate the need for government intervention -- a nightmarish scenario by anyone's yardstick. No right-thinking person would support regulation based on aberrant brain chemistry. That said, if psychopaths were weeded out of critically important roles in the global banking sector, governments and taxpayers would be a primary beneficiary. Public institutions the world-over have been mopping up the mess made by reckless bankers since 2007, and beyond. These massive bailouts have crippled the real economy and inflicted untold economic hardship on those that actually create wealth, not merely accumulate it.
Rather than regulation, insurance screening would be guided by free market capitalism. Insurers have a strong self-interest to limit risk, and a clear legal obligation to act in the interests of their investors. Shareholders of insurance companies should be demanding answers as to why the companies they are investing in are not using the most up-to-date science to limit exposure to costly risk.
A 2012 study by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners found that companies lose fully five per cent of revenues to employee fraud each year, totaling $400 billion in the U.S. and $3.5 trillion worldwide. Scams perpetrated by executives or owners were three times more costly than those by managers, and nine times more than employees. Fraud in the banking and financial sector was more common than any other industry surveyed.
These rates are also rising. A survey of 500 Certified Fraud Examiners found that between 2008 and 2009, workplace fraud incidents increased by 55 per cent, and losses by 49 per cent. Almost 90 per cent of these experts felt that fraud levels would continue to rise in the future.
There will of course be inertia within the insurance industry to address this issue, especially amongst early adopters who do not want to be put at a competitive disadvantage. Yet until psychopathic screening becomes the industry standard we will continue to build our global financial house on sand -- an obvious risk to the world at large and insurers in particular.
They say there's no free lunch in this world. Yet a small number of abnormal individuals feigning free market ideals have racked up a towering tab that future generations will struggle to pay off for decades to come. This is both unacceptable and unsustainable. We have the tools to start excluding people incapable of behaving responsibly from some of the most powerful positions in the world.
We need to stop ignoring this problem and start solving it. The world will be a far better place for it. ![[Tyee]](http://thetyee.cachefly.net/ui/img/ico_fishie.png)
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Hakuin
26 weeks ago
and any high functioning psychopaths
will easily bribe, intimidate and lie their way past any testing the same way they currently evade drug testing and similar intrusions. They also will find a way to twist psychopath screening to eliminate rivals.
Okanagan Orchardist
26 weeks ago
I'd like to add some additional reading....
A recent (2011) up-dated version of the original book, by the same author plus et al --
SNAKES IN SUITS: When Psychopaths Go To Work by Robert D. Hare Ph.D., Paul Babiak Ph. D. and Todd McLaren.
It gives a point-by-point list of what to look for. Be somewhat afraid, though, for some readers it might be like looking at your reflection in a mirror. :)
Our Great Leader fits the bill in every detail.
Okanagan Orchardist
26 weeks ago
And a video to back that up...
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/search/harper/highlights-harper-accepts-world-statesman-award/1866635685001
zalm
26 weeks ago
Why stop there?
As long as insurance companies are required to do the heavy lifting, let's make 'em really earn their premiums.
Abolish the limited-liability corporation. It's long outlived its usefulness. Allow sole proprietorship or unlimited partnership only. Shareholders also bear the responsibility for debts and malfeasance, just like they should.
And insurance companies will willingly bear the reasonable risk, in return for an appropriate premium. It's the perfect market solution!
And it solves the other problem of how to get rid of that other psychopath, the limited-liability corporation.
aDriftwood
26 weeks ago
Insurance is like tax you pay
Especially private insurance. Looking back on all the house, car and boat insurance I have paid over the years, I might be further ahead to forgo it and just pay the cost when the damage happens. Least I would be in control. Cut out the middle man. It's not as though they have ever done me much good. Have a legitimate insurance claim like when somebody breaks into your house or the wind deposits tree limbs and puts holes in your roof? The insurance companies will do every weasel in the book to get out of paying and then immediately raise your premiums. You go from being their best customer to being a suspected criminal in the blink of an eye. One thing when they advertise to get your money, something entirely different when you have a legitimate and honest claim.
'Insurance is a premium you pay to con artists in the completely false hope of reimbursement should things go wrong'
Shakespeare or somebody
aDriftwood
26 weeks ago
Remember when
I had a house in Ontario where I wasn't resident. My neighbour; who was Greek and among the 5% or so who will honestly help you if you know them, sent me an email saying that some tree boughs had blown onto the house roof and made a hole. Had to be fixed, so I got him to hire somebody to fix it and then put in the insurance claim. They ran this way, and they ran that way, what they never ever did was put up the money to pay for the damage. Got so long in the tooth that I eventually got tired and absorbed the cost myself. Private insurance companies suck.
aDriftwood
26 weeks ago
@Zalm
find myself in the peculiar position of agreeing with you. Not in regard to insurance companies who are limited liability companies just like the other ltd. companies you descry, but when you say:
"And insurance companies will willingly bear the reasonable risk, in return for an appropriate premium."
You ignore the risk of an immoral market which will force even the honest companies to adopt immoral and indeed illegal policies (if you will forgive the pun) to survive in the current paradigm.
snert
26 weeks ago
Insurance companies couldn'tt do anything
It would be a discriminatory practice against the mentally challenged.
Fiat lux
26 weeks ago
It is politicians who should
It is politicians who should be tested, first of all, because they have far more power over life and death, than bankers.
And as Okanagan says, our Great Leader, born without conscience, with mental illness written all over him and his actions, should be first in line. The guy has been giving me the creeps ever since I first saw his photo as one of Manning's lieutenants.
Albeit, it should be done in writing, unanimously, with a number of others, hiding their identity, because people in power have enough brains to give false answers.
I've spent a lot of time in the homes, offices and boardrooms of business VIPs and realized even 40-50 years ago that many of them were dangerous nuts.
The world has always been run, governed and dictated by psychopaths and, if anything, globalization and the free movement of capital, gave them more powers to do more damage. In the past with arms, now with the perceived power of imaginary money.
Ed Deak
Bailey
26 weeks ago
It's a good idea but
There's a flaw in the thinking. I think the reason the invisible hand is invisible is because it's imaginary.
You can't possibly expect regulators to regulate this because they are themselves infiltrated by many psychopaths. Just look at parliament, the US congressional behaviour, the insurance industry itself. All exhibit very troubling characteristics.
And it seems clear that psychopaths recognize and support one another, even from a distance. The Guardian reported that British bankers were using the Psychopathy screening instrument to find people to hire.
Mr. Deak is right, they have always played their role, and the fact is that the current free trade philosophy, based on Ayn Rands Objectivism is almost certainly conceived and designed by a psychopathic thinker.
The thing to remember is that psychopaths hold people with emotions or loyalty in contempt. They believe themselves to be superiour beings, and the rest of us to be nothing at all but prey. Rather stupid prey at that.
If we must trust the good faith of insurance executives to save us from this invasion of the soulless ones who are now controlling our world, we might be waiting a while.
What we need is a way to identify and mark these people, and a code of ethics with real teeth to stop them in their tracks.
Just please don't expect them to write it for you, or enforce it if you write it for them.
pwlg
26 weeks ago
I wish they would
Insurers could decrease their liability when it comes to fraud and other financial, social and environmental crimes perpetrated by corporate executives. They could but they haven't.
It was very clear in 2008 just how far these financial and corporate psychopaths had gone but little tough legislation nor tough insurance premiums have been forthcoming. Instead of penalties these psychopaths received rewards in the form of bailouts and hefty bonuses.
You would think the insurance industry would come down hard on the oil and gas industry especially after Enbridge's Michigan pipeline disaster which cost the insurance companies a minimum of $700 million. Instead they have spread their losses amongst all policy holders rather than go after those whose directions led to poor management of that pipeline.
In Italy, professionals can be held criminally liable for their acts or rather misdeeds.
In any case, any action by insurers to refuse coverage of certain questionable executives within a corporation will be met with an army of lawyers and lobbyists (the ones who finance political campaigns). These actions would effectively tie-up any moves to protect us from corporate psychopaths for years perhaps even decades.
In fact, these same psychopathic executives appear regularly in front of US lawmakers to plead their case for limiting the amount of awards or penalties an injured party can receive and even limiting the amount of premiums an insurance company can charge on certain risks.
hg
26 weeks ago
Psychopath
Maybe we should look inside ourselves for psychopathic behaviour. Realize that our thoughts can be just as helpful or harmful as our actions. Another example, somebody drops a $100 bill, how many people would hail them and return it, how many people would just quietly put in their pocket.
Why do we elect politicians the clearly show psychopathic behaviour?
KWD
26 weeks ago
Studies may show that
Studies may show that psychopathy is linked to physically abnormal amygdalas, and only 1% show “emotional deafness”, however, what percentage of the rest of the population, who don’t show “emotional deafness”, also have these abnormalities?
If you focus on “psychopaths” long enough you will eventually fit them into a list with common characteristics and traits.
The only reason psychopaths are considered “medically impaired” is because they are pathologized in the DSM. If it’s in the DSM it justifies its existence It’s more likely that their behaviour is the result of physical and/or mental impairment.
Vox.Pop
26 weeks ago
Corporate Psychopaths
Psychopaths rise up through PUBLIC companies, as they are the best sharks in the pool operated by equally psychopathic directors. Small private companies are rarely built by psychopaths (there are exceptions: Rockefeller, Gates, ... ) because small companies have to attract talent slowly & cannot offer excessive salaries to keep people working for a criminal.
The October issue (2012) of Scientific American features a story by Kevin Dutton with the same (bizarre) title as his recent book 'The Wisdom of Psychopaths' (p. 76) that describes a recent scientific study comparing the psychological profiles of corporate execs, psychiatric criminals & hospitalized criminals. "The analysis revealed that a number of psychopathic attributes were actually more common in business leaders than in so-called disturbed criminals." And we have allowed the Neo-liberals to organize a world in which these real criminals command our economy!!
Hakuin
26 weeks ago
We will eventually get to this goal
Just give it a few more years for the education to sink in.
There is one thing we could do right now though: stop impaired legislating. It should be mandatory that every elected official pass drug and alcohol screening before every sitting of any assembly where they have a vote. The harm they might do to all of us while making decisions when they are drunk or stoned is too great to ignore. Psychopath screening is a noble goal, screening out irresponsible lawmakers would be a step towards it.
Pender Island Codger
26 weeks ago
Balanced Polymorphism is not Dead
"After 100,000 years of human history, only one per cent of the general population exhibits this affliction -- indicating that it is more parasitic than powerful."
Not so fast! Just because a trait is rare does not mean that it is all is due to genetic mutation. Some genetic traits can be maintained in a population by natural selection -- a balanced polymorphism.
How better to keep Huns or Visigoths at bay than to have socio/psych-paths in seats of power in the political and military complexes? Harper's "newfound" interest in our present and past military exploits might mean he is expanding his horizons. Oh god, I need an aspirin.
Hakuin
26 weeks ago
Here's one for you Codger:
What society, past or present, best exemplifies an "all psychopath" society?
Hakuin
25 weeks ago
What if
We could get a few dozen qualified psychologists to declare Stephen Harper a psychopath based on his public behaviour? Do we have the legal means to apprehend and detain him? Is it really necessary for a pyramid of his victim's skulls to be built first, or can our medical profession step up to the plate and honour their oath?
Some easy reading: http://io9.com/5916074/should-we-eliminate-psychopaths-from-the-gene-pool
Pender Island Codger
25 weeks ago
@Hakuin
I don't know about an "all psychopath" society, but organized priesthoods must be pretty heavily enriched compared to the population at large.
Hakuin
25 weeks ago
Oh yeah
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/12/australia-judicial-inquiry-child-abuse
metacomet
25 weeks ago
Insurers Guarding Against Psychopaths?
Isn't that like putting the fox among the chickens?
I've had the misfortunes of dealing with adjusters completely devoid of human empathy. There are few positions so potentially manipulative as insurance adjusting.
Hakuin
25 weeks ago
Maybe if we pay them enough
And keep a gun on them they'll be the best predators to eat all the other predators. Afterwards we can ship them to low orbit and space them. :)
alive
25 weeks ago
Look in the mirror!
our system encourages climbing uo the ladder of opportunity --- and shit on the people a rung below!
so we are all guilty!
I would have a hard time to point out 5 decent people from all my friends and acquaintances!
SO, yeah those on the top are the best at stepping on others, but we idiots glamourize them along with "celebrities".
PostHypnoticPress
25 weeks ago
Psychopaths or psychopathic institutions?
I've been long fascinated with psychopaths (and sociopaths) - the main difference between the two being causation, psycho = genetic component, socio = environmental causes. Martha Stout ("The Sociopath Next Door") claims that the incidence of sociopaths is 4 in 100!
The idea of using insurance policies to weed out psychopaths is interesting, but probably ineffective in the long run. As Stout points out in her book, there is a cultural component to the way psycho and sociopaths behave.
In North America and, to a lesser degree, Europe, where there is a strong "me-centric" culture, where individual rights and wants are generally more important that societal, "we" values, the incident of psycho/socio pathologies seems to be markedly higher. In Asian cultures, where there is a strong emphasis on "we-centric," shared community values, family values, honour, etc., the incidence of psycho/socio pathologies is considerably lower.
Stout thinks that this is party due to the reinforcement of values coming from the culture itself. Most psychopaths are born to regular people, who do their best to inculcate values, but if the larger culture, through a myriad of things like movies, music, books, etc., pushes a more "me first" message, the psychopath simply ignores the family values. If, however, the larger culture supports the family values, it is more likely that the psychopath will intellectually internalize social norms.
I tend to agree with Joel Bakan's assessment of corporations ("The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profits and Power" available in print, as a full length documentary, and an audiobook). He argues that the corporations are legally mandated to act like psychopaths, because they are legally required to put the bottom line of shareholders first before everything else. As Bakan notes:
"... we asked Dr. Robert Hare, a psychologist and internationally renowned expert on psychopathy, for his views on the subject. He told us that many of the attitudes people adopt and the actions they execute when acting as corporate operatives can be characterized as psychopathic. You try “to destroy your competitors, or you want to beat them one way or another,” said Hare, echoing Roddick and Barry, “and you’re not particularly concerned with what happens to the general public as long as they’re buying your product.” Yet, despite the fact that executives must often manipulate and harm others in pursuit of their corporation’s objectives, Hare insists they are not psychopaths. That is because they can function normally outside the corporation 'they go home, they have a warm and loving relationship with their families, and they love their children, they love their wife, and in fact their friends are friends rather than things to be used.'”
Bakan, a legal scholar, suggests that we need to look to regulations and the legal mandate of corporations to address this problem.
CWDixon
25 weeks ago
Psychopath exec's
Let's not stop at corporate executives.
Let's start doing assessments on politicians as well, since the lines between public office and corporations has become so blurred.
It's hard to believe that we put a police candidate through a battery of psychological testing before handing out guns and badges, but someone like (for example) Stephen Harper can wangle his way to the big chair without passing any mechanism beyond a dysfunctional voting system.
Bailey
25 weeks ago
So then this is learned behaviour?
PostHypnoticPress; That is a very intricate explanation of a very intricate phenomenon. I have some observations, or maybe questions that you might have insight into.
For example, it is clear that corporations lobbied, wheedled and demanded the legal personhood on which the argument that they are pathological rests.
There was a long time in which they were dedicated companies, equipped with specific charters of purpose, which they were mandated to adhere to. In this way they fulfilled a purpose, just like any other institution and one could figure out whether they were successful by seeing whether they were fulfilling it.
Then after they achieved personhood they became able to buy and sell other companies and corrupt the chartered purposes of them, as well as their own.
Insurance is a good example. It was a socialist scheme for sharing risk and ameliorating disaster, basically because society is very vulnerable to damage from disaster. Everybody pays a share of the actuarially determined risk, and then nobody must bear the disaster alone. All bear it together. A nice human piece of prudent co-operation.
After personhood, insurance companies became financial institutions, at least in their own estimation, and took as their main purpose to avoid paying the cost of the risk, while still collecting the contributions of the people who still feel the need for prudence.
It's a big difference, but one that was sought deliberately by officers and executives. It's a way a basically break-even scheme could be made to produce profit, which could be taken as though there were an actual product being produced.
I offer New Orleans as an example of the fact that there is no insurance coverage for disaster in the United States any more. There are lots of insurance companies though, who don't feel embarrassed at all at not fulfilling their purpose.
I know that societies tend to take on aspects of the characters of their leaders, and ours are very corrupted. Is that what you mean?
Because if so, you get a very horse and cart sort of situation. We're psycho, because they're psycho, and they're psycho because we are.
I think I prefer the invasion of the money snatchers explanation. The other sort of requires way too many of us to be ill for me to want to buy it.
RickW
25 weeks ago
Why should there be any change......
....when they have it as good as they do? Change implies conscience or enforcement. Psychopaths have no conscience, and the only methods of enforcement are run by yet more psychopaths..........
BG
25 weeks ago
Dead?
Alive wrote:"our system encourages climbing uo the ladder of opportunity --- and shit on the people a rung below!so we are all guilty!
I would have a hard time to point out 5 decent people from all my friends and acquaintances!SO, yeah those on the top are the best at stepping on others, but we idiots glamourize them along with celebrities"."
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Speak for yourself "alive". Just because you're an asshole, doesn't mean everybody else is.
Ricky
25 weeks ago
Ha ha yeah right
I don't know where you get off thinking insurers aren't just one player in the bullshit casino. Fannie May, Freddie Mac, and AIG: all insurers that took long bets on trillions in shaky policies and needed massive bailouts when the whole thing popped in 2008. These companies don't grow if they don't tender policies. They're speculators to the nth degree, and took risks as big as any that the bankers took. Without gambling on the part of insurers, there wouldn't have been a financial crisis!
Moreso, a core assumption of your argument is ridiculous: do you mean to tell me that the insurance industry doesn't attract psychopaths? The people who's job it is to say "no," in any way they can, to the sick and ruined, despite being obliged to do the opposite? Who have done so scandalously and demonstratably forever? If any industry relied on heartless operators, it would be the insurance industry; why wuld they lead the way to change?
What a laugh.
Cynic
25 weeks ago
Good article, this reality
Good article, this reality should be front and centre in the media and in our minds. Hopefully society will develop a certain militancy against these failed human beings and eventually eradicate them from positions of power and influence. The state of the world reveals their presence amongst us. Especially we should scrutinize the .0001% and what they're up to.
Fiat lux
25 weeks ago
What we should scrutinize is
What we should scrutinize is who or what gives the right to the .0001% for their actions ?
Once they commit their crimes it is too late and we have thousands of years of history to prove it.
Yet, the answer is always the same: "faith" and human gullibility. Never fails.
Ed Deak.
richneal
25 weeks ago
This is just a terrible article . . .
Probably the worst case of speculative fishing I've seen on The Tyee. Shame on the writer and shame on the editors for letting this one through. The credibility gap between what the writer supposes and what actually goes on in the real world is huge.
Now, you would think that Mitchell Anderson would give us a quote from some of the underwriters willing to employ various forms of psychological profiling in order to weed out psychopaths from the corporate hierarchy. But such a quote is conspicuously absent. Even an unsecured quote - the oft-used anonymous 'industry insider'- is missing from this article. Without any evidence from the insurance industry presented, why does Anderson expect us to believe that insurers would be willing to use such profiling in the first place?
The whole premise of the article relies upon insurers being both willing and able to employ psychological profiling to identify and isolate psychopaths. Anderson fails to provide even a shred of the flimsiest evidence that any underwriters could do so. As such, the article presents readers with a poorly written speculative and juvenile blog posting.
I expect to see this sort of writing in The National Post - or from Margaret Wente - not from The Tyee.
Hakuin
25 weeks ago
We are on to you
Rich
OwlRol
25 weeks ago
Who gets tested first.
Heard another interpretation of the difference between psychopaths and sociopaths; the psychopath feels no guilt for hurting others and the sociopath feels uncomfotible, but does it anyway.
It might be good if these head honchos had to take at least the same police background checks as so many public servants and volunteers do.
Ideally, the more responsibilities, the deaper the background verifications ought to be. CSIS gets a thorough going over.
Still, power over time can twist.
Some wish we could read each other's minds. Then there wouldn't be any crime.
I don't want to read anybody's mind and I don't want anybody in mine.
But recent brain research is reaching beyond just understanding of basic functions, to behavioural correlations. Not so sci-fi anymore.
For the most part, we don't have surveilance in board meetings, conference centres, country clubs
or golf courses where so many decisions are made. That exposed, 47% speech was a good chunk of Romney's loss.
So why would anyone think that such brain activity detection capabilities would be applied to the twisted suits ahead of the rest of us?
andsbc
25 weeks ago
psychopaths?
Psychiatric diagnosis is hardly an exact science. There is nothing stopping any average joe from exhibiting psychopathic traits if that's what is required to succeed.
I think it would make more sense to address the corporate structure that promotes psychopathic behaviour and favours self-promotion over skills, intelligence and ethical/legal behaviour.
Perhaps insurance companies could declare systemically psychopathic corporations altogether uninsurable...
Bailey
25 weeks ago
Be fair richneal
This problem of psychopaths in control is large and growing. It's also extraordinarily hard to approach. If this is a brain abnormality or birth defect as it seems, then anti-discrimination laws would apply.
This article isn't precisely speculation, and the insurance industry doesn't currently do anything about it, and nobody claims they do.
But, given how hard it's being to get a handle on this problem, this suggestion of a possible control is very welcome. Structurally, this solution might actually be doable, and it's the first proposed action I've heard that might.
Clearly the fine details would be worked out by regulators when they start regulating again, presuming 17 Trillion dollars in losses is sufficient evidence of the failure of self-regulation as a policy.
I think it's a good opinion piece, and I think it starts a good conversation, which is always the beginning of a good outcome.
Okanagan Orchardist
25 weeks ago
That was also an interesting web site, Hakuim
Psychologists have suggested that the personality of a person is established by the age of two. That would seem that if that child is destined to become a psychopath he or she would already show some of the traits by then. If we could nail down the symptoms at that time, and treat them, it would certainly save us a lot of possible trouble caused by that person in the future.
Hakuin
25 weeks ago
suppose:
suppose a one hundred percent reliable genetic marker for psychopathy is discovered. Suppose it's cheap enough to screen the entire population. Suppose we establish as a fact just what humans are psychopaths at birth (or even before birth if genetic analysis of the parents predetermines it - to open yet another can of worms)
What do we do with them?
Okanagan Orchardist
25 weeks ago
We need to have some faith in medical miracles
Once some sort of gene has been established as being the problem, then we need to work on a cure, which might be as simple as an operation, or an innoculation.
For the time being, when people are taught how to spot a psychopath, or psychopathic behaviour, such a person, if young enough, should be evaluated and treated with psychiatric help. Until then, we simply have to wait until that person either hurts someone else, or hurts himself vis a vie, that young person in Ontario who kept trying to commit suicide until she finally did.
You have a good question, which needs to be answered by experts in the field -- and there don't seem to be too many out there who are willing to make the judgement.
Noggy
25 weeks ago
Hakuin, Deceit can conquer
Hakuin,
Deceit can conquer size and strength.
Your plan has been anticipated and their irons are in the fire; metaphorically speaking.
zalm
25 weeks ago
aDriftwood
"You ignore the risk of an immoral market which will force even the honest companies to adopt immoral and indeed illegal policies (if you will forgive the pun) to survive in the current paradigm."
Well, I didn't say the paradigm was complete, but I'm not clear if I understand you here. Is the risk that honest companies (nice oxymoron, that) will have to purchase insurance even if they know it won't protect them, simply to play by new rules? Or is it something else?
My intention was also that insurance companies also be restricted from limiting their liability in the same way any other corporation would be - how can one make an exception for one class of corporation? - and their investors and policy-holders would bear the risk of unlimited loss.
D'ya think that might go some way toward making people very careful about where they park their money, and what oversight they provide when they do?
I'm certain there'd be some individuals, not to mention corporations, that simply couldn't get a dime's worth of insurance on the bubble-gum stuck to the CEO's shoe.
zalm
25 weeks ago
I'm with PHP
"As [Martha] Stout points out in her book, there is a cultural component to the way psycho and sociopaths behave."
Anyone who doubts that has clearly never been a regular at minor hockey league games. Inculcation of unsporting behaviour, showboating and bashing the competition has as long a history in Canada as Tim Horton's does.
What I'm not sure about is, "as goes the man, so goes the corporation"..... did I get that the right way around, or should it be the other way? In other words, if we alter, restrict or punish the form and status of the corporation, will that alter the pathology of the worst psychos who run them? Or do we have to address the psychos first?
I believe the former (I'd have to, given what I said in the first paragraph), and further, there is now the ability for some to conduct an interesting experiment to test this. Maryland a couple of years ago became the first state to charter the Benefit Corporation
www.bcorporation.net
as one way to make corporations more responsive to their original charters. It's not perfect, but it's a start, and from their perhaps it can be built upon.
Which is why I reject the absolutism of rational dogmatics. We got into this mess by lowering ourselves into the pond an inch at a time. Those who want to leap out quickly are sure to lose their footing and drown.
zalm
25 weeks ago
Hakuin
"suppose a one hundred percent reliable genetic marker for psychopathy is discovered. Suppose it's cheap enough to screen the entire population. Suppose we establish as a fact just what humans are psychopaths at birth..."
What are you trying to do - invoke Godwin's law?
aDriftwood
25 weeks ago
@Zalm
First, as Fiat happily demonstrates, there are still some honest companies extant. Of course in keeping with the theme of the article, the larger the company the less likely it is to be bothered by morality. (as it is logically more likely to be run by psychopaths and thus more likely to be successful, which incidentally is exactly how our current capitalist fake money system works. Fake money, fake democracy, but real work for half the year to support the freeloaders - all tied up with BIG, GDP, ECONOMIC EXPANSION and all the key words for bull shit which Fiat has pretty well documented. Not going into politics here but social democracy has always been the best venue for the average citizen in every country. In this country when we used the Bank of Canada to finance our debts we had a much higher standard of living and could finance really good health care. When that was abandoned in 1974 things started going downhill and have been ever since.)
It's not new rules, it's the same old rules further degraded as psychopathy reigns ever more supreme with representative democracy with no control. Much like Microsoft degraded Javascript and even HTML in their efforts to gain a monopoly over the internet for their browser. [It didn't work because people flocked to firefox, chrome and even Opera, which is perhaps the best and fastest browser. I know when I use other browsers I drum my fingers waiting for things to load.] Now Microsoft has had the idiocy to adopt an os designed for ipads and iphones as their main desktop system (windoze 8, if you want to go through the agony of evolution with Microsoft one more time. If you don't you should stop at windoze7 which is the only decent os they ever made - wait 5 years until windoze8 is no longer as beta as win 3 was.). ROTFLMAO, it is pleasing in every respect. They copped a lot of it from the latest Ubuntu os, never noticing that people hated it and abandoned it in droves.] And that's a pretty fair analogy to the present political climate. In BC especially where corporate contributions are unlimited and are the only thing which has kept the Liberals in power. They will make hugely unpopular deals with China for campaign contributions, all the while telling us that they are improving our operating system. Nothing could be further from the truth.
aDriftwood
25 weeks ago
@Zalm
If only I were as smart as you! Except, this system of democracy which you support has proven a failure all over the western world. We are insulated here in Canada because we have so many natural resources which our government can give away that it almost seems we are a success! We are not - if we owned it; and we should because we suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous weather (at least here in Northern BC) and we definitely suffer the disadvantage of representative democracy and the concurrent worsening health and education system which could not have been better designed for alienating people who would like to depend on it for themselves and their families. So many lies, and so little room to maneuver, no wonder the rich are taking all they can before the damn breaks. It is particularly evident in the States where they no longer even pay lip service to their constitution. Of course it is a little different here in BC because frankly, people are a little cloudy somehow. Don't know if it is the weather or the rain or ... the media.
igbymac
25 weeks ago
I agree with zalm, for the most point
... and I preface this by saying I've not read all the comments. Anyhow, accountability is the system problem of our times. Nobody is government or operating behind the protection of a corporation, as a rule, has to be the least bit accountable.
We need accountability and asking the unaccountable state to regulate the unaccountable corporations when they are components of the same disease is folly.
So keep voting, you guarantee yourself nothing will ever resolve in the favour of the people unless it benefits the status quo first.
snert
25 weeks ago
Zalm
I'll invoke Godwin's Law. Might as well call a spade a spade or eugenics....by another name. To me it sure sounded like a Nazi solution to a problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
RealityLeaks
25 weeks ago
I'm in agreement with Zalm:
I'm in agreement with Zalm: cease limited liability, especially for corporations involved, first, in resource extraction, energy sector and all those others which could significantly impact on the environment.
I see insurance companies as subversive to democracy: the insurance companies are free to invest (your) money in what corporations do that you must then insure for.
aDriftwood
25 weeks ago
What it will eventually come down to
With 7 billion people in a growing world ever short of food supplies and resources it will come down to those who take control of their own resources for their own benefit. Give it 30 years and gone will be the the mirage of globalism just as the mirage of Catholicism or any other superstitious theocracy. (you have only to look at their histories to see that they are leading from behind)
Look at it as a model from which the elites have always operated: The model is simple, propagate any religion or representative democracy or other social force you can create to convince the ordinary, non psychopathic people who make up the bulk of humanity to buy into your false paradigm in order to hoodwink them out of their universal right to their fair share of the resources of the country and society they live in. No blinders here, we cant help the people who have already been flummoxed into a world of slavery in Africa or Central America, nor should we try. We should take over this province, British Columbia, and claim it as our own with all the riches it contains. Only then will we be able to help the less fortunate people of this world. First create real democracy here by either holding all elected politicians accountable for their votes in government by effective recall or by taking on the major decisions ourselves such as countries like Switzerland and Lichtenstein do - it is no coincidence that they have among the very highest standards of living in the world. The government fears the people instead of vice versa. To live as we do; in the grasp of representative democracy and the likes of Campbell and Harper and the media and corporations which control them, is to admit that we enjoy working longer hours for less pay and have not the brains to think for ourselves. It is the current and past meme of the upper class that they are better fitted to govern the stupid class, which we would otherwise make such a cockup of with our poorer vocabularies and lack of education. Don't believe it for a second - if we the people of British Columbia had real control over our own resources and own country we would run it better from the gitgo just by voting the issues and thus cutting out the middlemen of corruption. That would be just the beginning. Once we had access to real free education through university we would evolve just as rapidly as everything does on the internet. Things are going to change and the best the old oligarchy can do is slow it down in their own best interests. But that is not in our best interest. Our best interest is free public votes on important trade deals, a public bank to finance business local to British Columbia, and free education and health care paid for with the money we save by not giving it away to corrupt politicians and the corrupt corporations who finance them.
aDriftwood
25 weeks ago
Lichenstien
I know some bright spark is going to mention that Lichtenstein is governed by a royal family, but they also have the right to referendum on anything they don't approve of, which keeps their leaders in alignment with the interests of the majority. The same could also be said of Switzerland. And in Switzerland every male has to serve time in the military and is given a military rifle at the end of his service - imagine how nervous that would make any leader which had any idea of selling them down the toilet like Campbell did to us. As an aside, smaller counties, such as British Columbia, would present far less opportunity for carpetbaggers to separate them on individual issues than larger and largely disparate countries like Canada. We know what we want - we want control of our own resources, we want our own bank backed by our own resources to finance business local to BC, and we want to stop the drain of interest payments to foreign banks and foreign funded corporations. It should all stop here. We have the resources, we have the manpower, we have the brains. It would be different if you could point to even one Western democracy which has made well out of the current system. But you cant.
aDriftwood
25 weeks ago
There is not a dog alive
There is not a dog alive on the planet today who would put up with the kind of sharing we put up with from our public private government. Not if he were dealing with another dog. Don't forget that the liberal government got 60% of their donations in the last election from private corporations. So are they going to serve you or their money masters. My dog, who is fairly ordinary in his habits, would go berserk if I brought in a fancy poodle to lord it over him and fed the poodle more than he gets. Of course, if he thought that the other dog were somehow superior to him by force of arms or imaginary intelligence he might acquiesce, but we don't have that luxury.
snert
25 weeks ago
aDriftwood
Don't hold your breath on that one. Most likely it will be more beneficial to sell off our resources slowly. That way when the 6,950,000,000 finally get to the point where push comes to shove we won't have enough left to be worth invading but still have enough to meet our own needs.
igbymac
25 weeks ago
Henry Adams
... warned of the imminent dangers of corporations back in 1871. And since that time corporations have only expanded in scope and power. Things are not going to be changing any time soon because the 100 year old, overt social campaign for our minds has been a resounding success.
Even when we decide to 'get serious', what we direct the bulk of our attention toward is laughable -- whether J Trudeau owes an apology, or whether the NDP or the CPC will steer us in the right direction, etc. Most Canadians don't know simple truths like there were three towers that came down on September 11th. This is indicative of just how docile we have become. So we cling to this absurd notion that Canada is a sovereign nation. And, unrepentant, we hang onto this notion dearly because that is the message we have had drilled into our head from the get to.
Step back and you find that Canada has always been subordinate to the empire of the day. And the Empire has no equals, it has no friends. It sees itself as a righteous power on a historic course driven ahead by manifest destiny. Its operational paradigm is simple: all others are inferior and, accordingly, they are either subordinate states and slave states.
Canada, as a nation, doesn't even control its own money stock. Do we need any more proof than that to recognize that our elected government is little more than a 'legitimating' front for the real power/people directing it?
Marysue52
24 weeks ago
psychopath numbers are likely 10%
There are varying degrees of psycho. Someone who fibs or does not at least try to find the owner of lost money is the lesser kind. Still, the minor psycho can fall under the spell of a larger psycho. The condition can be heriditary (like the Mafia)and it really should be contained in a VERY secure prison. Psychos cause untold grief worldwide. Our planet is tanking because we have psychos in charge of our resources, land , water, food and governments. Whole corporations can act in a psycho manner--i.e. ManuDeath, Monsatano, IMHO.
Sine Nomine
24 weeks ago
Who will weed them out?
What I find outlandish here is expecting your typical HR "professional" to be able to screen for this sort of thing with any measure of success. HR people are typically the lowest skilled workers in corporations, but arguably have one of the most important jobs. This would just create a cottage industry of psychoanalysis (not something we need). If anything, we need less psychology and more simple common sense.
This corporate culture or promoting ruthless, politically savvy people is it's own punishment in the end. When people start to realize that these savages don't have their clients best interest at heart, they will begin to disappear from the landscape.
I find the notion that the insurance industry would or could add anything positive to society at large pretty insulting. These are some of the worst offenders.
Bruno96
24 weeks ago
Corporate Psychopathy
Corporate Psychopathy (excerpt from Montague Ullman, M, D.):
"A corporation has been endowed with personhood by the Supreme Court. It is not a person but it is run by persons. If the ethical standards of those at the top fail to maintain a certain level of social responsibility, the result is the insidious onset of corporate psychopathic behavior. A few get very rich and the others wake up one day to find themselves abandoned by the institution they trusted. We now have to take into account the corporation as a psychopathic entity outfitting all prior attempts on the part of governmental regulating agencies to control its behavior.
A reactionary government succumbing to corporate power colludes in this happening by weakening regulatory controls, In his book "The Corporation", Joel Bakan offers a thorough account of corporate psychopathy."
aDriftwood
24 weeks ago
@igbymac
"Canada, as a nation, doesn't even control its own money stock. Do we need any more proof than that to recognize that our elected government is little more than a 'legitimating' front for the real power/people directing it?"
Sweet words. 'The Eleventh Marble' as Mike Rivero termed it. Many people throughout history have recognized that private interest on public debt has never been sustainable.
The only country which has solved this riddle is Iceland, and though their president will tell you that he did with thoughtful prescience, the truth is that the people got out on the street in alarming numbers and said they refused to pay it. Having told their private bankers that they will not support them with public money, and indeed having jailed some bankers (they should have fed them to the polar bears) they are now bouncing back nicely.
Private interest on public debt is exactly the same as the house taking five percent of the pot in a poker game - they will sooner or later end up with all the money.
But if all the players took that five percent, as in profits from a public bank which invested only in companies local to BC, and reinvested all the interest in their own country, things would soon turn around here.
aDriftwood
24 weeks ago
Sorry to make so many posts here
But you really should read this article about the Canadian health care system - how it is and how it was.
http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/canadian_healthcare.php