Skoreyko is a rat...

Nuff said.

Skywalker-No Rat Here

You hit the nail right on the head with your post. So who do you think is going to depart next?

cheers
jim1966

Skywalker

I agree...it does show how far that Liberals are removed from reality.

Signed
BC Conservative Party Flunky

Rats and the Diseased Sinking Ship...

And the rats are heading down the forward rope, onto the jetty, and fleeing the ship. There's a leak in its bottom, and the rats are the first to know when and where its going down. They have the same opportunist instincts as politicians. They have the same mothers.

Not that there is any real alternative out there. The Ship of Capitalism has simply sprung too many leaks to be plugged. But you gotta admire the loyalty of that NDP, the Little Dutch Boy with its fingers and toes and dick in the dike. It's gonna try and save it.

Whereas me, I'd let the bitch sink. (Ships are traditionally female. Don't ask me why. It's one of the things I remember from my navy days. :-) And after about a month at sea, everyone gets a girls name. :-) though that was the old navy, when it was all male, mind. :-) Now its the politically correct navy... still serving the US Empire Cause, mind.

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sunshine coast girl

Ya, damn that Skoreyko rat for pointing out that Lekstrom continues to support the HST and only says that it should be sold better to the voters.

Perhaps he does still support the HST BC Blue,

but at least he's listening to his constituents. Late, but at least listening. Skoreyko thinks he's a rat because he's trying to "save his ass". I disagree.

sunshine girl

"At a media conference this afternoon, Blair Lekstrom said that although he personally supports the HST, he feels a blunt discussion with British Columbians is necessary."

jim1966

Who's next. I really don't know. I should say that in spite of how I feel about Lekstrom's actions on this, I wouldn't vote for any right-wing Campbell liberal. I might vote for a liberal provincially but it would depend on policy and positions. But back to who is next.

I expect that Linda Reid is very uncomfortableas is Hayer but out of the eight that are vulnerable to recall only George Abbott comes to mind as someone who might be honorable. I don't know any of the other 8 that well but many of the others like Hanson, Falcon, Penner, Polack, are so far up Campbell's butt to be a lost cause.

Who on earth are the "B.C. Conservatives"

And why are they calling me degrading names?
I AM the public
And really mistrust anyone choosing to tell me what I think.
Lekstrom did a fine thing!
Better late than never.
Some commentors here say: "follow the money".
I say: follow the Rats and save your own ---

No Rat...except in the Conservatives...

...I'm glad Skoreyko spoke out like he did - now I know which party not to vote for.

Much as I hate the Libs, I'll give Lekstrom points for finally hearing his constituents, and small businesses in the border communities...and doing what he knows to be right by stepping out to become independent. Do I think it will save his arse when it comes time for recall...hmm...not sure, probably not.

But he's the only Lib I've heard to date actually come out and say: “This is a major tax policy shift and it is time to engage British Columbians with a series of discussions about our province’s future.”

For that Mr. Lekstrom, you get some respect.

Lekstrom to run for the Fed Cons?

http://alexgtsakumis.com/2010/06/11/breaking-news-the-blair-lekstrom-project-replacing-jay-hill/

Skoreyko speaking out of turn

Skoreyko obviously misunderstands the political gamesmanship needed to win seats in this province. He is shooting a potential powerful ally before the ink is dry on Lekstrom's resignation letter. Maybe Skoreyko doesn't like Lekstrom's good, balding looks; maybe Skoreyko has designs on leadership of the nowhere, nobody BC Con Party. Rather than shooting his idiotic mouth off, he should welcome Lekstrom as potential ally and court him him like a new lover.

Lekstrom could lead the BCCP from nothing to potential power broker in 2013. Skoreyko, who the hell are you? Did the BC Con Party party give you carte blanche to shoot off at the mouth like an an assistant aide to a Lithuanian backbencher? I hope your people get some experienced PR hacks on the front lines do some real politicking, because you just may have shot your best hope for power square in the heart.

All may not

All may not be as it seems. Blair Leckstrom stated on Christy Clark's show today that he is still a member of the BC Liberal Party. His perceived independent status may be nothing but a ruse to deflect all the bad news the Campbell gang have been getting hit with lately.

I just watched Campbell responding to the media about Leckstrom's departure and he sure didn't react in his normal petty, condescending manner when things don't go his way.

Something just doesn't feel right about this whole scenario.

My MLA

Murry Coell is my MLA and I just recently recieved a four or five page mail-out in full color from him and not one mention of the HST. Nice man but he is not getting my vote again. Leckstrom seems to have enough political smarts to make the right moves when needed. I'm sure a couple more MLAs will follow but not enough to topple the Government.

So called Conservatives have

So called Conservatives
[INFLAMMATORY COMMENT REMOVED. -MODERATOR.] believe and are doing their best to enforce the rule of a special interest ruling sector, who once used to be the nobility, and now are the multinational corporate mafia.

Harper, monetary economics invented for colonization and the control of the world with the perceived power of imaginary capital, used to be called "the Will of God", leading to worldwide collectivization of the economy in a few hands, in the fashion of the Soviet kolkhozes, now called "globalization, etc. are the best examples.

Ed Deak.

Strange interview with Ida Chong

on the Adam Sterling show yesterday. He asked her straight out if she was considering following Blair's lead and she wouldn't give him a simple "yes" or "no". Wonder if she just needs a bit more of a push.

Ida is just buying time

Ida is just trying to deflect the inevitable recall campaign coming her way. Even if she does step aside, there should still be a recall and a byelection.

Woefully ineffective MLA plus she let all the Jordan River forest lands be sold for subdivisions. Now there's a legacy.

Blair is not a sociopath.

Lekstrom's BC Hydro was selling Pirate Power's electricity Friday on the Columbia grid for - wait for this - less than a HALF CENT A KWH peak. Off peak he'd be paying the grid to take.

Remember he is buying the power at 12.6 cents a kwh.

I'd suggest that is the real reason he resigned.

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html

He couldn't live with his role as a fraudster signing power contracts designed to benefit a few stockbrokers while destroying BCHydro, more than doubling our power rates, and adding $65B in contract obligations buying worthless power to provinces debt.

Liberals aren't allowed to advertise about the HST

Bytor - there's a reason why your mailer from Coell doesn't mention the HST. Thanks to a colossal bit of incompetence from the Liberal Party, it would be illegal for him to mention it. Parties who want to advertise on either side of a referendum have to register to do so. Vander Zalm & Co. registered. The Liberals neglected to. This means that for the duration of the referendum campaign - until July 5th - they aren't allowed to do any advertising about the HST.

So it's not an attempt to avoid the issue - I'm sure Murray Coell would love to give you all the reasons he thinks the HST is a great idea. He's just not allowed to.

BC Conservatives will Welcome Blair Lekstrom to the Party

Dean does not represent the wishes of the BC Conservative Party. As a member of the BC Conservative Party I believe that Blair Lekstrom did the right thing. I'm sure the vast majority of members of the party support him in his decision and that a home for Blair in the BC Conservative Party will be most welcomed.

Dean looks like he acted alone on his assessment of Blair Lekstrom's regination and that his comments are more in line with his former connections with the BC Liberal Party and the view of some of the Federal Conservative MPs who wish to force the HST on all British Columbians.

BC Politics

I am a right wing supporter, but quite frankly the BC Liberals who originally promised a full centre philosophy seem to deeply entranched in far Right wing political substance. ... and that is SH*T.

I now campaign loud and proud for the complete annilation of the BC Liberals as they have totally failed the people who elected them, have breached their so called philosophy and have become a political party of dictatorship by Gordon Campbell, Hansen, and not many more of the Liberals(they are not LIberals or Conservatives)(In fact I no longer know what philosophy the BCLiberals subscribe!)

At the same time, I cannot support the NDP. They have way too much baggage, Carole James as leader is weak and incomprehensible, and the NDP platform just does not make any sense.

What we need is a centralist political entity that recognizes all elements of then British Columbian fabric, that consults people on major changes, that treates all people with equality and compassion, that solves problems without huge cost, that reduces taxes, that concentrates on the basics, that keeps British Columbia for BCers.

I really don't care what that new party might call itself, but I am totally tired of the BS that the NDP and the BC Liberals promote.

Time for a complete change, one that recognizes the energies of ALL peoples in a fair and logical manner.

Unless we have governments

Unless we have governments who are not afraid to stand up against the multinational corporate mafia, real private enterprise will fall to total collectivization. In the fraudulent name of "free enterprise"

There are no left and right wings in politics, only the predators, who are using all ideologies and the words of all the prophets to enslave and steal people blind, and their victims.

Today's so called "capitalism" is not much more than the sugar coated twin of communism, out to enslave the world, colonizing everything into the hands of the worst criminals, where some 3% of the human population owns and controls over 50% of the resources, while tens of millions starve to death every year.

And, for the record, I have 45 years of record fighting communism, 53 years an independent business owner in BC, and intend to spend the rest of my life fighting its idiot twin, capitalism.

Now, is this centrist, or right, or left wing ?

Should the predators permitted to use the excuse of "private property" to confiscate the private properties and lives of billions, as the NAFTA racket has done, especially in Mexico, but also here in Canada ?

Ed Deak.

Right on the money Ed.

It matters not whether you are left-wing or right-wing but if you are the "predator class", and their rhetoric is easily spotted, you are the enemy. I will say that the NDP will make mistakes at times but they rarely cater to only one sector of the electorate at the expense of another as blatantly as the Campbell version of liberals do. At least in my experience.

"A rat is a rat is a rat.""He knows where our phone number is"

Both quotes attributed to Dean Skoreyko
There is a guy who has principles!
is it true that the bc lib backbenchers got 2 days heads up that they were now supporting HST way back when, from Campbell?
How did he do it?!
"You are supporting HST!" "NO, the voters will murder us".
"Listen u F#&*^*s, I am putting on the GLOVE!"
"What a big fist you have Mr Campbell"
A cold sweat breaks out as they remember the last time he used the GLOVE. "Yes we support HST"
I think it is amazing that they ever went along with him that time. He must have something really dreadful to threaten them with.

The Rat

This guy is the biggest hypocrite of them all. He can't support the HST and he must change his mind. Right, where was he the day the House Voted for the bill? He was supporting the government. The people didn't force him to change either. The Car Dealers
forced his change of mind. Before the Albertans could come to Dawson Creek for good deals and tax exemptions with the new law they have to pay their
taxes like everyone else. Wonder what the boat companies in Kelowna are thinking. They sold boats to Albertans and they soon discovered they can't give tax exemptions like they get in areas near the boarder. Double standard is alive and well. People should think before making this guy some kind of hero, he is a self preservation rat.
I personally hate the HST, but to be a hero he would have had to step up in the House and vote with the NDP. I hope the Tories don't take him nor should the NDP.

Rat - 5; not a rat - 4

For Lekstrom to be claiming now that he hears the sound of the bell tolling for the people does him no service. Where was he when BC Rail was sold off, removing one more support for the northern economy? Where were his principles when BC Parks were abandoned after privatization, when fish farms destroyed natural salmon runs, when logging companies sold off their tree farms for residential land sales, when perennial scabs like the BC Securities Commission refuse to heal, and on and on. We’re not talking about principles here - this is stuff that any reasonable citizen, whether right-leaning or left-leaning - nay even libertarians too - ought to embrace as being good for the people of our province.

So now after 9 years he can’t stomach any more bullshit? He’s a rat. And that goes double for someone who worked for a living and paid union dues.

I'm reminded of Winston Churchill

...who crossed the floor twice from Tory to Whig and back again.

"Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat" - W. Churchill

Lekstrom's no Churchill.

crankypants up thread

crankypants gets my vote for the most likely scenario.

Along with Ed Deak of course for his version of reality.

RECALL & PETITION LAWS WERE DESIGNED TO FAIL, BUT WE ENDURED

Katerine (and Bytor). Allow me to add that Elections BC even notified the Liberals they must register if they wish to oppose the Anti-HST campaign. Likewise, the the Billion $$$$ corporations that Campbell works for could have registerted as Opponent Adverisers - but did not. Such arrogance.

The Recall and Initiative Laws are so unfair and near impossible to succeed. Many such factors, but here are a couple of exaples:

1. Petition threhold in BC is 10% of REGISTERED voters in EACH of the 85 ridings. In Wash & Calif, it is 5% of the number who VOTED in last election (i.e.; 5% of 60% turnout = 3% of registered voters).

2.Petition can be signed by a registered voter ONLY in his riding - 85 different petition sheets. In Wa & Ca- 1 petition sheet statewide,

3. In BC a proponent can only be a individual - Oraganizations or Corporations are not allowed. However, Opponents to the Petition can be Gov't, Oraganizations, and/or those Billion $$$$$ Corporations.

4. The proponent must focus on All 85 ridings to succeed. Opponents need to focus on 2 or 3 ridings only to ensure Petition failure in 1 riding, thus the entire Petition effort fails.

5. ETC, ETC, ETC.

How fair this that ????? Campbell promised to reform those laws - another broken promise !!!

And in spite of all those obstacles...

against all odds and all pundits, we succeeded. Kinda makes you wonder how the Libs aren't taking seriously the threat of Recall. I've seen nothing like this in my entire life and the anger is not dissipating. The only way they will survive is to call the whole thing off. Nothing else will do.

The problem is that when

The problem is that when they realize that they've had it and are no longer electable, even the small majority they have gives them dictatorial powers for the next 3 years to completely sell off BC to the "wealth creating foreign investors", even when they happen to be communist China, their brothers under the skin.

And the directorships are and will be waiting with open arms.

Ed Deak.

They won't have 3 years Ed...

They will have a few months.

Sunshine, just got an email

Sunshine, just got an email that last night 1,500 people paid $350. each to hear Campbell speak.

Apparently raised half million ?

They're far from dead. If it comes to a referendum on the HST, as I understand, 50% of the eligible voters have to say "NO", with only 40% having voted in the elections.

Then, even if the BCLib party folds, like their predecessor the Socreds, they'll open up with a new name the next day, in the best Socred/Reform fashion and keep ruling the country as they do now under a variety of names. And people will fall for them, because they're "business friendly".

If Hitler had been running again in Germany and Austria after WW2, he would have won a large majority. All you could hear was how good they had it before the war.

As Barnum said :"A sucker is born every minute"

Ed Deak.

And grumbling every step of the way, Ed...

I'd be curious as to who estimated the numbers. The same people who estimated the number of attendees at the Vancouver Rally last September? The same people who have been telling us all along how we're going to fail with the Initiative?

What they don't tell you is how much debt the BC Liberal party still has from last year's election. I doubt their "1/2 million" paid that off.

I'm sure there was a lot of serious arm-twisting and marker calling in going on before the dinner, with lots of threats about the awful "socialist hordes" being at the gate. These people can't tell the truth if their life depends on it.

Yeah. We're not bothering with another referendum. Changed our minds. The Initiative Petition is a referendum and they've lost. We're going straight to Recall. It's a lot less work and has more direct results.

DO RECALL - Referendum is Redundant.

Fiat lux - We just conducted a first-ever, history making Citizen's Initiative, with overwhelming results, under almost impossible conditions and restrictions. That Petition can and should be used as a defacto referendum. Only a desperate dictator would try to impose a referendum under such obvious results.

That useless referendum would cost us more than $ 20,000,000.00. Another Gov't waste of our money. Fortunately, Recall is our decision - Of the people, by the people, and For the people. Let's do it !!

By all means, let's do it

By all means, let's do it and hope to succeed.

In my 54 years as a BC voter, this is the most corrupt government, but they have the best mind benders and the corporate mafia controlled media, not to mention the economics departments with their fraudulent theories and accounting systems, not to mention a whole non-voting , young generation working for them.

I never thought anything like Harper, or Campbell could happen in Canada.

Ed Deak.

tax deal

so, 1,500 people paid $350. each to hear Campbell speak.
I bet that they all were in a taxbracket where the write-off is more important than the cause.

What was the actual cost to them after all the write-offs?

It's a really corrupt government, Ed...

They both are. Let's just focus on this one right now. I think the people of this province are long past listening to any of their spin anymore. They've thrown everything they have at us so far and all it's done is make people madder. They have no idea how to deal with that. And we have an army of 6,500 fully experienced and really, really angry canvassers just itching to get going. I'm feeling pretty proud to be a British Columbian right now. God knows, it took long enough :)

Sunshine.....How do you make

Sunshine.....How do you make young people vote? I don't know of any who do. All they care about is to plug their heads full of the screeching of the latest tattooed ninny and how to get the ugliest, made in China, clothing from Walmart.

Of course there are ways to reach them, but the opposition has the worst and most incompetent communications system that can not reach anybody with anything.

E.g. The minimum survival wage, according to so called "economists" is, I believe $16/hr. We've paid about half of that to unskilled labour 35 years ago, but, meanwhile the cost of living went up over 1,000%.

Denied by economists of course, who are counting 20 hour a week minimum wage jobs as "employment" and an inflation rate of 2-3% per year, when prices in the stores are going up more than that per week.

Where are the politicians to call the public's especially of young people's, attention to this, the biggest crime wave in human history, enslaving
and destroying the world.

Ed Deak.

My kids vote...

They are 30, 25 and 20. And they take their friends in to too. You have to insist that they do and make it a requirement in life. One thing I have found in this campaign is that there are a whole lot of young people who registered to vote simply so they could sign the petition. They seem to have realized that they can make a difference. We need to use the tools that they use to keep reminding them. I have faith in them. But it's a lot of work.

They are not stupid either. They know the difference between what they are paid and what it costs them to survive. We just have to keep plugging away and including and involving young people in our discussions. This issue has been awesome because so many are involved and it's fresh in their minds. And we can use it to point to the success of the will of the people. Won't be easy, but we'll keep at it. It's all we can do.

Delusion on and on...

"One thing I have found in this campaign is that there are a whole lot of young people who registered to vote simply so they could sign the petition. They seem to have realized that they can make a difference." opined sunshine coast girl.

Much as I once bought into this naiveté, it's bs of course, and the eligible voter stats against those who actually participate in the system, just don't bear it out. (It's not even a part of any urban or rural legend mythology, anywhere that I have lived.) It's part of the old left, status quo and especially "left light" mantra, which while I wish it well, just hasn't and never will change anything in a meaningful way, in my humble opinion. (And I've been around a long time, and have produced a long progeny line too.)

The reality is, "the system" is unravelling from the economic base up, and it's time for folks to start walking away from the assumptions that prop it up, like a dead El Cid on a war horse. And one of the, if not the main erroneous assumption is, that we have anything seriously resembling a democracy that, against ruling class wishes, can significantly and seriously change anything. It's a load of crap. And more young folks, I suspect, understand this than old folks still living on their past "true believer" illusions.

In any case, time to start walking away from what is, and starting to build alternative and parallel institutions of "lower classes" power, in the economy, communities and on the streets, everyone other than the ruling 1%. Such that we can begin to challenge and replace the status quo with a non-state, popular power of the working citizenry organized.

Too much clinging to the past and institutions that don't work, including the electoral system, other than for privilege against the rest of us. And time for "the rest of us" to wake up to the reality, to begin to walk away from participating in it, and to find our own common and collective interest, and fight for its ascendancy.

There is a need for more serious revolutionaries, and fewer pie in the sky buyers into the beneficence of the status quo, who keep deluding us.

HST petition

To Sunshine Coast Girl and others

I wish that I could share your optimism about this issue, but I recall that incredible mobilization of B.C. workers and citizens, known as the Solidarity m 25678 910 T. 1922ovement of the late 1980s. It took only one compromise/betrayal of the then head of the IWA with the premiere of the day and the whole thing fizzled out to "business as usual". Electing an NDP govt. in the 90s only slowed down the privatization process we now see accelerated.

Had the HST incorporated most of the exemptions of the PST it purports to replace, there would be no outcry as it does make the paperwork simpler. On the other hand, there has been little mention of the fact that it gives up provincial independence in taxation policy to the Feds.

Let's try our best at this exercise in participatory democracy, in trying to defeat the HST, but never take our eyes off the ball. This tax originated in Ottawa by the Harper government, and was accompanied by an enticing sum of our own tax money, much of which is now spent and will be owing. (Remind you of Third World loans and debt payments?)

Some writers point to Gordo's dictatorship. But compared to Harper's antics, that everyone should be watching, progressives and moderates conservatives, including moderate faith-based groups alike, dismissals in many important positions, appointments of ultra-right wing candidates, cuts in funding to groups who do not see eye to eye with the Harper agenda, defiance of democratic processes; all of these make the Gordo shenanigans look like child's play. Perhaps this HST revolt isn't just about the BC Liberals activities, but also those of the so-called Conservative party of Canada.

Let's hope that we have more of an impact than the Solidarity movement had.

Ed,

The Feds are next on the list. Everyone knows they have just as much to do with this as the Libs.

Getting back to the beginning again...

"I wish that I could share your optimism about this issue, but I recall that incredible mobilization of B.C. workers and citizens, known as the Solidarity m 25678 910 T. 1922ovement of the late 1980s. It took only one compromise/betrayal of the then head of the IOWA with the premiere of the day and the whole thing fizzled out to "business as usual". Electing an DP govt. in the 90s only slowed down the privatization process we now see accelerated.' wrote OwlRol.

I hear you brother, with the same memory set.

And your comments here put it all, especially the HST, into a better perspective, in my view. The BC Libs of the Campbellites are really not just the Libs per se, and we all really know it. It is really an ipso facto, in practise, working alliance or coalition government of the entire extremist right, with few exceptions. To these guys, the sorry ass NDP really is the barbarian hordes at the gate, whereas really, they are just pussies who want in on "the game." (Some might say the "con" against the working class.)

The real need, in my view, though it is clearly going to take more time this time around, is to get back to the starting point again, where effectively, we all were with Operation Solidarity. Only this time, it has to be on a more firmly popular and organized, democratic basis, capable of dealing in time with the treachery of political and labour leaders. For these people and their penchant for treachery are always there.

Lekstrom

This guy is finished period. The Liberals who are really the Social Credit Party having hijacked the real Liberal Party over a decade ago. The Socreds are in fact a coalition, YES a coalition of the old
Liberal and Conservative parties. Kinda makes all that nonsense about a federal coalition obsolete eh? Anyway, the problem is the HST petition was really to see what the odds were for recall of this
gang that has taken over and put democracy a million miles behind it, could be topple with recall. I believe recall will start right after
the Christmas Holiday season and this government will be history. They will try to fight an election in early spring with all the scandals given as gifts for he opposition. Lekstrom just
destroyed the party. The Liberals come around every fifty years like the Locust and destroy leaving it to the others to clean up before they descend on us again.

Mr Campbell has a warped sense of right and wrong.

So let me get this straight. By Mr Campbell's logic it was right to lie to the public and bring in a tax that was clearly against the publics will. By his logic it is also right to defy a call to referendum on the issue and deny the public their voice.

I hope the people of BC don't have the same sense of right and wrong. In fact I know they don't. Hopefully the people in Mr Campbell's riding will show him whats right and wrong by throwing him out of office.

On the topic of rats....

Folks, rats can't help it, its what they are - rats. think of the story of the scorpion and the frog... they just can't help it.

The HST has two purposes - fist is to minimize the debt (short-term slight of hand, that's all that is needed). Second is to shift public tax money into private hands. That's it, that's all. Don't read any more into it, don't look for rationale beyond these two things. The truth is usually simple.

As to those who think this is the first of many defections, keep dreaming - has there ever been a rush to the door before? Not even on the Titanic could people be convinced to jump a sinking ship. Besides, how big is the risk to your political future? Read the posts, the NDP (especially under 'her nibs') are out of date, they don't have a policy that works, they have a history of governing that leaves a bad taste in many mouths - and the same names are still there making the same decisions.... so really, what risk to the Liberals, King Campbell should step aside, and he will, on his terms, and when his departure will do the Liberals (and their new leader) the most good. Remember, all parties have two goals - gain power, and keep it - nothing else matters, except maybe pay-back to those who supported, and to those who didn't.

NDP

They, too, annoyed me enough times in the 90s, but I don't think the record is as bad as some make out. A lot of money goes into discrediting their policies. They were a little confusing in their effort to try and resemble 'conservatives' because 'tax cuts' [service reductions] had been the mantra for twenty years.
As long as we go with 'the province needs to be run like a business' the deeper into trouble we will get. This puts all people into competition with other people for resources. This makes us all anxious.
Let business people be truly creative and make wealth for themselves and jobs for others. Let the government take care of social justice and other services on our behalf.

Rats and the Liberals two of the same!

A rat fleeing for its life from a sinking ship when it makes it to land guess what its still a rat.If Lekstrom had any credibility at all he would of resigned before he brought in the worst legislation ever introduced into the legislator " The Clean Energy Act" He and his Liberal cronies sold out our rivers and the citizens of BC to the friends of Gordon Campbell.Wipe every Liberal off the political map dont be a stupid British Columbian and vote for the Campbell administration ever again!Good bye Gordo!