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Expect less from government, and faster environmental assessments: BC throne speech.

By Andrew MacLeod, 10 Feb 2010, TheTyee.ca

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Lieutenant Governor Steven Point delivers Throne Speech.

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The British Columbia government's Speech from the Throne today opened by promoting the opportunity the Olympics bring and closed by saying British Columbians should expect less from the government.

Along the way the speech, delivered by Lieutenant Governor Steven Point on behalf of the government, reiterated numerous past promises and ongoing initiatives while making several new announcements.

Highlights included:

  • a moratorium on mining, oil, gas and coalbed methane extraction in the Flathead Valley;
  • families with children under the age of 18 who own property will be allowed to defer their municipal property taxes much as seniors are already allowed;
  • "Legislation will be introduced enabling our universities to remove themselves from the government reporting entity," the speech said. "We cannot let accounting policy stand in the way of our students' interests or hold our universities back from pursuing their unique areas of excellence in partnership with others";
  • a committee on municipal property tax reform "will identify specific steps to make property taxes more conducive to investment while assuring municipal services are fairly provided for all taxpayers";
  • the government will "take a fresh look at B.C.'s regulatory regimes," it said, including the BC Utilities Commission, the BC Ferry Commission, TransLink and others;
  • it hinted that the government may soon act on recommendations made by the comptroller general in the fall: "New accountability and transparency will be brought to BC Ferries as it continues improving services with new ferries, terminals and amenities";
  • the government will pursue more public-private partnerships in "transportation, health delivery, education support services, systems management and more";
  • Emily Carr University of Art and Design will get a new campus near the Centre for Digital Media at the Great Northern Way Campus;
  • "New partnerships with the private sector and parents will enable the establishment of neighbourhood preschools for four-year-olds and three-year-olds within communities over the next five years."

Curtail your expectations, BC

The speech also repeated past promises to harmonize provincial and federal environmental assessments for major projects, a call it said was made more urgent by the recent Supreme Court of Canada ruling on the Red Chris mine.

"The government will work with other provinces and the federal government to establish one process for one project," the speech said. "Multiple governmental reviews replicate work, add cost, increase uncertainty, delay decisions, reduce investment and ultimately cost jobs."

Changes particularly need to be made to the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, it said. "Currently, over $3 billion in provincially-approved projects are stranded in the mire of federal process and delay. This is unacceptable."

The speech, which bragged of the government's record of cutting taxes, said British Columbians should prepare for more cuts to services.

"Stemming the unaffordable growth in health costs is essential in meeting our obligation to rebalance the budget by 2013," the speech said. "As long as we are spending more money to pay for our services than we are generating in revenue, we are living beyond our means."

It added, "We must curtail expectations of government and look for new ways of meeting our needs within the substantial spending increases already provided."

Premier takes long range view

Premier Gordon Campbell said the speech was about taking advantage of the Olympics and using it to start building the kind of province we want to be in 2030.

During a post-speech scrum in his office he took question from reporters on several topics raised in the speech.

The property tax deferral for people with children under 18 years old will work much like the deferral currently available to seniors, he said. People who take advantage of it won't have to pay the taxes until they sell the home or they die, he said. "It's really saying we understand families have additional costs as a result of having children."

He didn't know how many people might use the deferral, but said there are as many as 400,000 families with children in the province. The decision won't be a hit to municipal budgets, he said.

Campbell acknowledged that his government has been pushing Ottawa to streamline the environmental assessment process for some time. "We're going to continue to push it," he said. "You have to be committed for the long term to these issues."

The federal government has been encouraging and he's met with Environment Minister Jim Prentice, Senator Richard Neufeld, and Prime Minister Stephen Harper, he said. "My experience is you have to continue on this and be persistent on it."

The move would be about having "smarter" regulations and faster processing times, but would not amount to deregulation, he said. "There's nothing here that suggests you shouldn't be thorough in the review process."

Asked about BC Ferries, Campbell said the publicly-owned company is well run, but some changes need to be made. "There are some challenges that we face with B.C. Ferries in terms of openness, accountability and transparency," he said. "We will be dealing with those. There will likely have to be some legislation but you will hear more about that in the weeks ahead."

In an interview earlier in the day transportation minister Shirley Bond said the government will "very soon" be addressing issues raised in a report by the comptroller general released in the fall.

Government out of ideas: James

"I don't think anyone had high expectations for this throne speech," said New Democratic Party leader Carole James. "We know this is a government that is very focussed on the Olympics and that's what people expected in this throne speech."

The speech ignored the hard time many British Columbians are having, she said. "I did expect that the government would at least acknowledge the challenging economic times that are facing people in this province -- job losses, high child poverty rate, cuts in services -- and I didn't see any of that in this throne speech."

She added, "I saw a government that didn't have any ideas to deal with things post Olympics."

Streamlining environmental assessments isn't necessarily a bad idea, but she has doubts about the government's plans, she said. "Looking at deregulation for the sake of deregulation is worrisome. It's concerning because you could be looking at reducing environmental protections that are there for a reason."

James said she supports the Olympics and will be cheering for Canadian athletes, but added the tough questions about spending still need to be asked.

The speech talked about using the Olympics as a springboard, but had no specifics for how that would be done. "I didn't hear tourism mentioned once in that throne speech. Surely tourism would be the opportunity to be a springboard."  [Tyee]

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  • Adam M

    2 years ago

    Oh Jamesey

    Christ, the inane pap Carole spouts off sometimes is beyond me. Who the hell expected Campbell to address "job losses, high child poverty rate, cuts in services"?

    Ugh, sometimes when she makes comments like this, and I don't know whether it's just her or her backers making her talk like that, but the continuous, dumbed down, shallow political language makes me intensely nauseous. The way she does it is so artificial, it's like one of those computer chat programs that runs on an algorithm to make it seem alive, but the longer it talks, the more you get that eerie feeling...

    Every day the NDP becomes more and more of a mystery to me.

  • MacKenna

    2 years ago

    The last election was James'

    The last election was James' to lose and she should have resigned when she did lose it. The NDP needs a viable leader and she ain't it.

    Campbell is increasingly dangerous to the province. He's Harper without the religious fanaticism.

  • Grumpy

    2 years ago

    Scary!

    This is a scary budget, brought in by our Fascist Premier to massively download taxes on the middle class and families. It is a budget designed for the provincial elites, while families will get slaughtered. The tax deferral scheme for those with children under 18 is a massive bombshell that will explode in coming years, destroying families.

    And where is Carole James? The bloody broken record just keeps mumbling child poverty, etc.

    This women is like a vague relative who came to visit for a few days and stayed for years! God - Go - Go!

    Campbell has just declared a full frontal assault on the middle class.

  • Grania

    2 years ago

    Privatization

    Sounds like health care, transportation, etc. will be contracted out to corporate friends of Campbell and Co. We will receive less and be taxed more. RECALL!!

  • Takuan

    2 years ago

    they have to hurry

    even with a third term the damage has to be irreparable or the people might rise again.

  • Dr Alexander

    2 years ago

    Gordie Campbell leaves for holidays in Hawaii

    and comes back as Ralph Klein.

    I wonder how long it will be before we have our "sans-culottes" moment?

  • jimgde

    2 years ago

    tax reform = taxed more?

    How is it that tax reform equals a download of taxes to the middle class, or private-public partnerships (which can sometimes be a valuable means to enhance services while limiting public costs) equals corporate contracting? I'm not trying to aggravate, just curious for the reasoning of these claims...

  • Frank

    2 years ago

    Adam

    What exactly is Carole supposed to say?

    That poverty and job losses don't matter anymore?

    The big mystery is why Campbell has been able to get away with increasing poverty.

  • freebear

    2 years ago

    Is Point a stooge?

    I would be sick to have to read that speech!

    Blah, blah, blah olympics are wonderful legacy !

    then,

    the cupboard is bare, we are giving future generations a legacy of debt!

    How do you talk out of both sides of your mouth?

    Oh, and lets reduce your deficit, by deferring your property taxes while you have kids under 18, until you sell your house!

    So in other words go into debt more! Imagine when the kids turns 18 and you have to sell the house to pay your back property taxes that you 'deferred'!

  • Fiat lux

    2 years ago

    It is interesting that all

    It is interesting that all governments are hell bent to "reduce taxes", but at the same time give free hand to some of the biggest crooks in history to steal more and more from the public in obscene profits and executive salaries, while people are awed over how clever they are by "increasing their earnings".

    Stolen from our pockets through the soviet style collectivization and control of the markets with constantly rising prices.

    And this is what the PPPs and "privatization" are about: Transferring costs and balancing budgets by not providing services while legalizing the grand theft from the public.

    Ed Deak.

  • Frank

    2 years ago

    jimgde

    If Campbell was just starting out now it would be fair to ask what's the evidence. But he's been in power for 9 years, we know what the effect was in his first years in office when we slashed income taxes by 25% and raised other taxes, fees, licenses, permits, tolls and so on.

    The people at the bottom ended up with a higher overall tax bill while at the same time their services deteriorated.

    As for PPP's the evidence is in, we didn't save any money. Our debt has increased by over $50 billion in so-called "contractural obligations". What Campbell relies on is people who think that a sale at the Brick offering "no money down, no payments till 2012" means they're not paying for what was built.

    Here's a Vancouver Sun article on the contractural obligations
    http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/columnists/story.html?id=be4c05c2-444b-4624-afbb-fb98ac8b799e

  • archer2006

    2 years ago

    "Who the hell expected

    "Who the hell expected Campbell to address "job losses, high child poverty rate, cuts in services"?

    Let's see a non-recovery with high unemployment, a devastated forest industry, increasing poverty and fewer services for those who need them? Why address that when you can put out the thinnest Throne Speech in 20 years and pack it with Olympic chest thumping that doesn't mean anything.

    And some drone from PAB says James is wrong for pointing out the fact that the Throne Speech is bereft of ideas to deal with some of the biggest issues affecting people here and now? Give me a break.

    The Liberals are supposed to own the economy. Instead they look like a government badly out of touch and out of ideas.

    Let's take an example. Their big dereg announcement was a proposal to lobby the federal government to combine the fed and prov environmental assessment acts. This is so old you have to brush the cobwebs off it. More importantly it's not going to happen in a minority parliament with a razor edge plurality in the polls. This is a non-starter and they know it.

    And its not even the biggest problem out there right now, unlike say access to capital.

    Jame's critique was exactly right and I note is being echoed by most commentators today.

  • jim1966

    2 years ago

    Throne Speech

    Uuugh, enough of Gordo and his gang, there was not anything in this speech that inspires British Columbians, but I think a lot of people were expecting some fairness and compassion from this government. Also I agree that the oppostion needs some changes to be more effective. Carole James must step down if the NDP wants a real chance at being elected. The NDP could use this speech as a tool to bring down the Libs. Regretfully they will probably go for the "stay the course" approach which in my view is the wrong way. So far when it comes to politics I've decided that come next election day I am voting Green.

    jim1966

  • Fiat lux

    2 years ago

    With the deregulated banks

    With the deregulated banks we have unlimited capital to exploit and destroy limited resources.

    Europe had tons of worthless capital after WW2, but no resources, so people were starving and running around in rags.

    When you have resources, you have capital.

    When you have capital but no resources you have sweet bugger all.

    Canada has resources and could kick all the foreign investors, who now own and rule the country, out.

    What's the point in paying through the nose for "defence", and then put signs all around the borders with "Canada for sale", on them?

    Ed Deak.

  • kootenay

    2 years ago

    Castlegar

    The owners of the pulp mill in Castlegar are a prime example of the extent corporations will go to download their municipal taxes onto the citizens.

    It's not so much that they object to paying their current assessment, but the fact they refused to pay their taxes at all and left the city and citizens with a $3 million dollar hole in the budget.

    They have also coordinated their efforts with a couple other pulp mills in BC, using the same tatics. This is a prime example of corporations using heavy handed tactics to reach their goals and damn the public if they are affected by their actions. Corporate leadership at its best in BC.

    The government didn't step in and force them to pay the legitimate taxes, didn't even fine them. Imagine what would happen to us if we tried that.

  • MichaelT

    2 years ago

    WTF does that mean?

    "Legislation will be introduced enabling our universities to remove themselves from the government reporting entity," the speech said. "We cannot let accounting policy stand in the way of our students' interests or hold our universities back from pursuing their unique areas of excellence in partnership with others";

    Please let me know.

    and on the point of jobs, look, down south, perhaps the same here:
    A SHOCKING Study: America's Affluent Near Full Employment, For Low-Wage Workers 'A Truly Great Depression'...
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/10/no-labor-market-recession_n_456797.html?fbwall

  • jimgde

    2 years ago

    @ Frank

    Thank you for the civil response. I admit, I'm new to BC (6mos and counting), so I don't have the history with the current govt others might. And I appreciate your points. Cutting income taxes and raising consumption taxes is a strategy to put more cash in the consumer's pocket and limit consumption of perhaps unneccesary goods, but it does have the tendency to disproportionately affect the least well off. To the extent that this happens, I would argue its the responsbility of the govt to address the regressive nature of this scheme. However, judging only from the bullets included in this article, it appears the tax reforms are aimed at easing the burdens of householding for those on tight budgets. I'm sure theres more to it, but I can only weigh this on itself, not on the past.

    Also, on PPPs - again, the possibility that too much services get offloaded onto the market, which will, as it is wont to do, redirect resources to areas most efficient (ie., to those that can pay for it). Of course, the whole idea is the the first P compensates for this. If this is not happening, then it needs to be addressed. But if there is infrastructure to be built and services delivered to consumers (such as energy, in article you cited), it will of course cost someone some money. Purchasing electricity from private suppliers can be an effective means to bring greener electricity sources onto the grid, ie) feed-in tariffs for renewable producers. The producers need not be large corporations, of course. Whether or not this is the direction of this government, I do not know. I only argue that the costs of the services we receive are ultimately borne by us either way, and if we can find ways to deliver those services in a cost-effective and equitable manner, I am willing to pay for it.

  • Fiat lux

    2 years ago

    What it means is that the

    What it means is that the universities will be up for sale to make certain that whatever they teach will be in accordance with the neocon theory of class superiority.

    Under fascism this was called "respect for prestige" now it is called "economic efficiency", meaning the biggest profits for the least monetary inputs.

    Ed Deak.

  • ReeferMadness

    2 years ago

    Campbell's farewell?

    It appears to me that Campbell has decided this will be his last term and is setting the stage for some actions that will be very unpopular. Once the Olympics are out of the way, he will be less sensitive to public backlash. I predict another round of what happened in 2001.

    About 40% of the public service is due to retire before 2015 so he will be able to slash the size of government without huge layoffs.

  • Ed Seedhouse

    2 years ago

    No, I will not reduce my

    No, I will not reduce my expectations of government, dammit! I want more and better performance from government, not less. If you can't provide it step aside and make room for someone who will at least try.

  • Adam M

    2 years ago

    Frank

    Quote:
    What exactly is Carole supposed to say?
    That poverty and job losses don't matter anymore?

    Any idiot can see that these things matter. Talking about it and complaining publicly isn't enough when you're the official opposition. Did you hear Carole commit to a course of action on behalf of her party?

    Doesn't it annoy you that Carole has been in a state of endless expectation in regards to this government? Thanks for the play-by-play, Carole, but could you please pick up the ball and play already?

    Everyone knows that this government doesn't give two shits about this province, yet Carole and her party, at least on the face of it, are content parroting back voter's concerns and taking some token actions. It's that old trick where you listen to what someone is saying, and then you repeat it back to them using different words and an agreeable attitude, without making any commitments, and maybe it'll get you somewhere - works well for slimeballs looking to get in the pants of naive young women, works for some politicians who don't want to DO anything but want to get elected.

    With the NDP, it comes across as the old, "Just let Campbell shit things up so bad that we're a shoe in next election, and we don't have to commit to any firm policies or do anything!" Did that work last election, Frank?

    All that said, though, the biggest problem is that people love to stick it to the NDP but are thoroughly unwilling to volunteer themselves and make things happen in their riding. I hear, time and time again the refrain, "Somebody should do something about this! Uhhh, but I'm busy..." God forbid the NDP sees some new blood, though there's something sad about a tired old party with the word "New" in their name.

    Still, it pisses me off that on so many occasions the NDP has thoroughly failed to take action. It's nauseating to see a party so frightened of action that they're willing to see the province fall apart, content to pick up the pieces.

  • verso

    2 years ago

    MichaelT

    "Legislation will be introduced enabling our universities to remove themselves from the government reporting entity," the speech said. "We cannot let accounting policy stand in the way of our students' interests or hold our universities back from pursuing their unique areas of excellence in partnership with others";

    "Please let me know."

    I had the same question when I read that. Could it be a nicer way of saying less transparency and accountability with our tax dollars? That seems to be how the BC Liberals roll.

    Maybe The Tyee can provide more info in the coming days...

  • Frank

    2 years ago

    Adam M

    "Talking about it and complaining publicly isn't enough when you're the official opposition."

    That's all they're legally able to do. The leader of the opposition has absolutely no input into any government legislation.

    That's what the 52% that didn't vote wanted and so that's how it is.

    I don't like it either but I've never seen any other opposition in any province or federally do anything else.

  • Skywalker

    2 years ago

    verso

    David Schreck has a piece and part of it mentions just this point. That's on: strategicthoughts.com

  • A Guenther

    2 years ago

    to Frank

    For starters the NDP needs to screen their (easy to plant) candidates better.. I seem to recall 3 that besmirched the reputation of the party before the last election.

    Secondly, Carole needs to get with the program.
    The opposition found ways to smear the opposition via net comments on such news sites as CTV and CBC. In this case debate ignoring the legalities of a coalition but smearing the other parties:
    "PC party faithful using those buzz words from the memo you got from campaign headquarters, read the Coalition Faq as provided for your convenience by CTV.. it's only one click away.. , and start thinking for yourselves.
    3 stooges, banana republic, coup d'etat, traitors, greedy, power hungry .. these are all catch phrases, among others, that make you look more stupid and complicit than the people that you are trying to con."
    Then the conservatives started doing comments with the first sentence being things like "Harper is my hero." This made it easy for people voting on comments to easily pick out which ones they would lay an aye on.
    Exactly the same tactics used by Campbell and the neocons during the May election, and all within the new BC election rules.

    Thirdly, maybe it's time to approach previous liberal candidates that have, even briefly, considered crossing party lines.

    Fourthly,I don't necessarily think that Carole has to quit, but if she doesn't then she had better show some fight. Personally, I don't have to see every hair on head in place, or her standing in one spot, or her somewhat monotone voice.

    And when the NDP show that they can win, then the voters will come.

  • ursus

    2 years ago

    gordo

    this is typical of gordo, hit his supporters where it hurts don't shop in stores that belong to the C.F.I.B. don't buy or watch canwest or any of the msm who support him, turn them off, their revenue is based on their readership I would think, no readers no advertisers.

    Phone your mla and mp reminding them on a daily basis that we do care about the poor and underprivilidged, the seniors and our environment! Tell these morons how you feel!

  • North of Hope

    2 years ago

    coal-bed methane

    I find it incredible that he will stop mining in the south east part of the province for coal-bed methane but he will subsidize it, with tax breaks, in the north east to assist the companies to continue to mine. The regulations in the north east are almost non-existent. This puts the lives of many in danger as they are drilling near communities and their schools. It was too foul for the citizens of Montana but it is OK for BCer's. Next to the tar sands, this is the foulest way to get methane.

  • verso

    2 years ago

    Skywalker

    Thanks, I'll check it out...

  • Frank

    2 years ago

    A Guenther

    "I seem to recall 3 that besmirched the reputation of the party before the last election."

    I still don't see what was wrong with the guy who had the picture on his Facebook page touching a breast.

    "Secondly, Carole needs to get with the program.
    The opposition found ways to smear the opposition via net comments on such news sites as CTV and CBC."

    But that's not Carole's job, that's the job of her supporters. She's only one person. NDP supporters need to be on those news sites.

    And secondly, those right-wing attacks have the instant gratification a media echo chamber provides. The Right not only dominates, it literally has a monopoly on talk radio in this country. That feeds the bloggers and eggs them on.

    "Thirdly, maybe it's time to approach previous liberal candidates that have, even briefly, considered crossing party lines."

    Lefty supporters already think Carole is too "Liberal". Getting actual ex-Liberal candidates to join the team might turn more people off than it brings in. However, at this point Carole might as well invite ex-Reform and Conservative members too because a lot of non-voting Leftees don't seem to mind Campbell at all.

    "And when the NDP show that they can win, then the voters will come."

    The NDP could have won the last two elections if about 1 in 25 non-voters had showed up and voted NDP. But seeing Campbell remain premier wasn't enough motivation for them. Based on that I have trouble believing there's anything Carole or anyone else can do except move well to the Right.

  • Matt T.

    2 years ago

    And When The NDP Forms Government They Sell Out Their Base

    When the NDP forms government, they sell out their base and principles like everyone else and become just another Liberal flavour of the day. Time for a truly leftist party in Canada to emerge.

    "Pamela Harrison, a long time New Democrat who held key positions within the Nova Scotia NDP" publicly denounced Darrell Dexter's government on Friday. Below is the letter she sent to the premier's office:

    "You had a chance to govern us with dignity, skill and respect. You have been judged, Darrell. The verdict is profoundly negative and your victims are Nova Scotians.

    I am no longer a New Democrat.

    Pamela Harrison

    Halifax, NS"

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/02/05/ns-pamela-harrison-letter.html

  • Fiat lux

    2 years ago

    The sordid fact is that all

    The sordid fact is that all parties employ the same brainwashed economists, who, as in the case of the NDP, may carry packages of band aids to cure compound fractures, but have no guts or dare to admit that the power of the multinational corporate mafia must be broken before we can think of any improvements, or return to any form of democracy.

    All they can think of is that these "wealth creating investors will bring jobs, jobs, jobs", while ignoring that they're buying up and destroying the country and real private enterprise with the power of imaginary capital, the jobs will be rock bottom part time and we're sinking deeper and deeper into worldwide dictatorship under a capitalist politbureau, soviet rule.

    The main purpose of this "competition, competition" hysteria is the forced collectivization of industries and economies into the hands of criminals, who may be called "distinguished business leaders" and VIPs, but are nothing more, or less than street gang thieves.

    If "competition" is supposed to cut costs, why are the prices in the stores rising and our living standards sinking every day ?

    Because of the fraudulent definition of economic efficiency as "The biggest profits for the smallest monetary inputs"

    And this crap in being taught in our universities as "economics".

    Ed Deak.

  • freebear

    2 years ago

    I feel/think as Ed does:

    "The sordid fact is that all parties employ the same brainwashed economists, who, as in the case of the NDP, may carry packages of band aids to cure compound fractures, but have no guts or dare to admit that the power of the multinational corporate mafia must be broken before we can think of any improvements, or return to any form of democracy"

    So, try an experiment next federal election and not vote.

    Maybe a 10-15% voter turnout will stir up debate!

  • Fiat lux

    2 years ago

    Sorry freebar, but I grew up

    Sorry freebar, but I grew up in fascist dictatorships and cherish my right to vote, never miss one.

    The more people don't vote the sooner the crooks will take over completely.

    The best we can do is to pick the least offensive party, or politician, which in our case is the NDP, and hope that one day they may just wake up and get rid of their backroom decision makers.

    At least, this way we can cut the Reform Party votes.

    Ed Deak.

  • Frank

    2 years ago

    Matt T

    "When the NDP forms government, they sell out their base and principles like everyone else and become just another Liberal flavour of the day"

    Some do, some don't and sometimes the expectations of some of the supporters are the equivalent of a type of French Revolution which obviously can't be met.

    In the Pamela Harrison case its hard to know from 3,000 miles away what she expected to happen in 6 months.

    Anyway, the Right has become more radical since around 1980. The NDP has therefore not been the revolutionary party, its been more of a status quo party trying to maintain the gains made from about 1935 on.

    Unfortunately in spite of their "stay the course" stance they've been the ones painted as radicals by the right-wing media when its obviously the Reform types on the Right that should be wearing that label.

    But for many on the Left, maintaining the gains made in the past isn't enough to vote for. So because left-wingers sit on their hands at election time we keep electing radical leaders from the Right who continuously work to dismantle the system built up since WW2.

    No party can win power by representing people that don't vote. And that's the NDP's problem. The pool of people it should have been able to count on for support don't show up in large enough numbers. So the party has to keep moving to the Right to find a base of support it can count on. That disillusions even more on the Left and so it goes.

    But in the end, it wasn't the NDP's fault politics moved to the Right, they would have stayed as far to the Left as they could have if the support base had been there. It wasn't.

    "Time for a truly leftist party in Canada to emerge."

    The same thing will happen to it as happened to the NDP.

  • A Guenther

    2 years ago

    to vote or not to vote

    And that 'status quo' party is losing it's membership by attrition, similar to churches losing it's parishioners.
    My 85 year old mother just said to me the other day that perhaps 'we' should vote for another party. After a lifetime of voting NDP she is tired of losing. I told her lets play it by ear.

    And how else would you take over another country? You would do it corporately.

    1. http://www.suncor.com/popup.aspx?cid=331
    "1949 Sun Company evaluates development of the oil sands to keep the U.S. from dependency on foreign oil. Site identification begins."
    2.http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/media/289.aspx
    "1984 The new federal Conservative government (Mulroney) tells Petro-Canada to change its mandate and conduct business in a solely commercial manner, focusing on profitability."
    "1990 The federal government announces in February that it will privatize Petro-Canada; legislation is introduced in October."
    3.Suncor 2008 annual report
    "results from our Canadian and U.S. downstream refining and marketing operations have been combined into a single business segment – refining and marketing.Comparative figures have been reclassified to reflect the combination of the previously disclosed Energy Marketing & Refining – Canada (EM&R) and Refining & Marketing – U.S.A. (R&M) segments."
    4.Mission accomplished... Suncor buys Petro Canada, along with the choicest of mineral rights and massive reserves.

    BC Hydro states that BC produces 76% of consumption here. Would it produce 100% if there wasn't power being sold to California? Their urges to cut consumption have nothing to do with environmental concerns and everything to do with fulfilling California's needs.

    People talk about how many resources we have... I'd like to see the actual numbers of those still wholly owned by Canadians.

  • freebear

    2 years ago

    Sigh........

    Putting my hopes in any 'party', all of whom preach the same mantra-growth is good; is only postponing the disaster from relentless pursuit of growth/stuff!

    If no one voted, the corporates would take over and then maybe people would unzipp their sheep outfits and stand on 2 legs and defy/resist the corporatists!

  • RickW

    2 years ago

    Ed, Freebear, et al.....

    Quote:
    The sordid fact is that all parties employ the same brainwashed economists

    Pwrhaps, with some small alteration, this might be apt:
    'The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. . . .'

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