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Who Wants to Buy CANDU's Risky Business?
Canada is moving towards privatizing its federally owned reactor maker. Who might want in, and why? Second of two.
Cutaway diagram of CANDU6 reactor.
Over the past few decades, governments in Canada have followed a steady pattern of privatization of services that were previously considered to be in the public interest.
Trains, planes, and automobiles (Translink buses, to be precise) all are now run by private corporations instead of the federal or provincial government, as is the telecommunication system.
Until this year, the federally-owned nuclear reactor maker Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL) has avoided the privatization push. Now, the Conservative government is pursuing a plan to restructure that corporation, and is expected to sell at least a partial stake in AECL's CANDU reactor business to a new private partner.
As recently as 2002, an auditor general review of the corporation's management describes AECL's mandate as "the keeper of CANDU technology and the custodian of Canada's nuclear option."
If the federal government did not keep AECL operational, it was implied, existing nuclear reactors would be mothballed and no new ones could be built in Canada.
But when provincial governments in Ontario and Alberta started talking about building new reactors, they made it clear that they would be accepting bids from competing companies. AECL is not the only option for new reactors. And even if the company disappeared, a competitor would surely take over the steady (and profitable) business of servicing existing CANDU reactors.
Nonetheless, the federal government is not pushing the restructuring plan as a desire to "get out of the nuclear reactor business" in the same way that Stephen Harper pushed the need for private involvement in medical isotopes. Instead, all official statements describe the changes as a way to make the company more successful.
In announcing the restructuring plan, federal Natural Resources Minister Lisa Raitt said, "The overall objective... is to strengthen the capacity of Canada's nuclear industry to compete for and deliver domestic and international nuclear projects." Raitt repeated that argument, in a recent statement before the House of Commons Natural Resources committee, emphasizing the need to protect jobs. "Our government is acting now to ensure that these highly skilled employees will have every opportunity to actively participate in high-value projects, designing, building, and servicing nuclear energy technology in Canada and abroad," she said
A written statement provided to The Tyee by her department in August argued that "the time is right to build on AECL's recognized strengths and expertise... Restructuring the Corporation will make the industry stronger; more sustainable; more competitive."
How is privatization supposed to make you stronger? It's all about the money.
Paying for a risky business
"To succeed," states the final report of the government review that recommended privatization, "it [AECL's CANDU reactor business] requires a market savvy management approach and access to risk capital."
"Risk capital," in this context, means money invested in long-term projects like the development of AECL's Advanced CANDU Reactor (ACR), money invested knowing that it will only turn a profit if and when the design is perfected through multiple reactors being sold and built.
The problem is that, as a Crown corporation owned entirely by the federal government, AECL is restricted by the federal Financial Administration Act in ways its competitors are not. It cannot raise funds to finance a new project by selling shares on the stock market. And it cannot borrow money, or even redistribute its budget, to meet unexpected costs.
This is especially a problem, argued the review, because AECL is a much smaller company than its competitors, and therefore cannot as easily absorb the financial impact from an over-budget project.
If an AECL project goes over budget or past deadline, the only option the corporation has is to go cap-in-hand to the federal treasury. Since 2004-05, Parliament has assigned more than $230 million for the ACR project in supplementary appropriations (i.e., in addition to the corporation's annual funding for research and operations); another $30 million has been budgeted for this year.
In addition, when those latest appropriations are approved, the government will have given $300 million over the past year to help AECL finish its over-budget projects to refurbish CANDU reactors in Ontario and New Brunswick. Overall, more than half of the money AECL has received from the government in the past six years has come from supplementary appropriations (see table below for details).
That is all despite the fact that AECL's commercial operations -- reactor sales and services -- are supposed to be run on a cost-recovery basis.
The government's plan is to find a private partner who would "share the significant upfront capital costs of reactor development, as well as both the financial risks associated with the commercial nuclear business and the benefits from future revenue streams."
The question that remains is, who should that private partner be, and how much control of the company should they have?
A private consulting document from National Bank Financial commissioned as the basis of the government's review recommended the sale of a 51 per cent stake in AECL CANDU, according to a February article in The Globe and Mail, citing unnamed sources. The publicly-released summary report by Natural Resources Canada, however, does not include that recommendation.
Nuclear physicist Jeremy Whitlock, an outspoken supporter of the Canadian nuclear industry and a 15-year AECL employee, told The Tyee in an interview that he personally hoped for the reverse. He hopes the government will maintain at least a minimum controlling interest in the company, in order to protect a "long-term view of the technology."
In addition, for "patriotic and strategic reasons" he would prefer that the corporation's new private partner be a Canadian company. Although he wouldn't name names, there are only two Canadian companies that have been seriously discussed by industry analysts: engineering firm SNC-Lavalin and reactor operator Bruce Power, and when the president of SNC-Lavalin spoke to a Parliamentary committee earlier this month, his only comments on the sale was to urge the government to complete it expeditiously.
If it's not Canadian, will it still be CANDU?
All the other rumoured buyers for AECL are not only foreign-owned companies, they are major international nuclear firms, and AECL's competitors: the French government-owned Areva, U.S.-based Westinghouse (majority-owned by Toshiba) and GE-Hitachi.
It is not logical to expect the other nuclear companies to invest in the AECL's Advanced CANDU Reactor when they have already invested in their own competing models, says John Cadham, a policy researcher at Carleton University. Cadham recently prepared an analysis of the Canadian nuclear industry for the Centre for International Governance Innovation.
"They [AECL] haven't built one yet, so it's still unproven technology," he said. "For a big complex build, I don't know, I think Areva would be better off building their EPRs [European Pressurized Reactors] on the strength of the school of hard knocks they're going through in Finland and France."
That does not mean those companies wouldn't be interested in buying AECL, Cadham argued, but he doesn't have great expectations for the outcome if they do.
"You can cherry-pick their people, you can talk about continuing to invest in research and development, blah, blah, blah, but the practical reality is you'd be buying up their attractive maintenance business... because AECL will make money in the next few years refurbishing CANDU-6 reactors around the world."
As a result, he says, "To my mind, privatization of AECL is the end of AECL. And my guess is that will probably spell the end of nuclear power in Canada, but that's a controversial statement."
From inside the corporation, Whitlock was no more optimistic about the prospects if AECL is sold to a competing nuclear company. "The obvious first step of a competitor who owns his competitor is to shut it down, or convert it to a branch plant making their own product -- regardless of what rhetoric is said at the time they make the sale, or what promises they've signed on to for a couple of years.
"I just don't see that as a good move."
What do I need a nuclear reactor company for, anyway?
Whitlock argues that there are a number of reasons why Canadians should want AECL to stay in Canada, and preferably continue with significant government ownership. At the most basic, there is the question of protecting the investment already made: "Canadians have paid for AECL, and you should always care about what you've purchased."
Another reason he cites is the value to the economy of the industries that support CANDU development and operation. The Canadian Nuclear Association estimates that the entire nuclear industry (including uranium mining and reactor operation) represents $6.6 billion a year in economic activity in Canada.
In particular, Whitlock says Canadians should care about AECL's future because nuclear power is a high-tech industry in which Canada has achieved unique expertise. "For the same reason Canadians care about the aerospace industry, or the communications industry, and think that's important to keep it going domestically, that's another reason," he said.
Whitlock also argues for the importance of supporting the more fundamental research that led to the development of other nuclear technologies such as the medical isotope business. The research activities could all be continued with the proposed independent, "National Lab" model research facility at Chalk River, but the government would have to decide that type of research was worth paying for.
"You have to accept the value of research and development -- and that's not a given," said Whitlock. "In the past, though, federal governments have strongly supported National Labs -- they do in the United States, they do in other parts of the world, and they have in Canada. Because of financial necessities, the degree to which National Lab-style funding [at AECL] has disappeared over the years, and we're down to a research lab that supports the commercial business, basically, and have been for about 20 years now."
Assets and liabilities
Whitlock may be hoping for new funding for research, but it is clear that the government is more concerned about ridding itself of the "financial necessity" of backing AECL's commercial losses.
But those same losses make AECL a hard sell. Who wants to buy into a company that is spending hundreds of millions of dollars a year to complete contracts that it underbid on?
Then there are the considerable liabilities for waste management and decommissioning of old facilities, all of which will likely remain on the public balance sheet.
The government has been careful not to make any statements about what sort of price they are hoping to get for a share in AECL, or what that agreement will look like. "I think AECL is worth what the market will pay," Raitt told the Natural Resources committee, "and that's the true value of assessment."
What does the company have to offer a new investor? There's the human resources of a highly skilled and in-demand workforce. It's not just political lip-service that leads advocates on all sides of the debate to repeatedly refer to the workers as one of the company's best assets.
But the CANDU reactors that all those physicists and engineers work on are of much less certain value. There are really two reactor technologies. The established CANDU 6 reactor has been built "on time and on budget" -- as AECL executives proudly proclaim -- multiple times internationally in the past decade. But it does not offer the same features and performance as other reactors being considered for new builds in North America and Europe.
Raitt and one of her advisors have both optimistically described the CANDU 6 as a "niche market" product, for sale to countries that are worried about having to rely on imports of the enriched uranium required for other reactor designs.
Although you won't hear the minister mention it, one hoped-for market is India, which currently uses reactors derived from an early CANDU model. However, Canada has not allowed any trade in nuclear technology with India since 1974, when that country tested a nuclear bomb made with plutonium from a Canadian-built research reactor. A new Canada-India nuclear cooperation treaty is under negotiation, but final agreement was not reached in time for the expected announcement during the prime minister's recent trip to India.
The other reactor design AECL has to offer -- the ACR -- has never been built and may still need considerable investment to test and perfect the specifications. It also loses one of CANDU's traditional selling points, since it would use enriched uranium fuel. At the same time, it continues to use expensive heavy water as a moderator, one of CANDU's perceived draw-backs in the international market.
There are currently no firm plans -- let alone contracts -- for AECL to build reactors of either design.
AECL was hoping to build its first ACRs in Ontario, at a planned expansion of the Darlington nuclear generating station. It was bidding for the job against reactors from Areva and Westinghouse. But in June, the Ontario government announced that it was suspending the procurement process.
The lack of a deal for the Ontario reactor will naturally make AECL less attractive to potential new investors, and the lack of domestic orders for the ACR make it harder for AECL to convince foreign buyers to take a chance on the new design.
An Ontario press release explained that only AECL met all the bid requirements but that "concern about pricing and uncertainty regarding the company's future prevented Ontario from continuing with the procurement at this time."
According to documents left behind by Natural Resources Minister Lisa Raitt at a CTV studio in May, AECL management knew its bid was high and that Ontario would likely object, but that they were still concerned about possible cost overruns on the fixed-price bid.
Playing politics with nuclear reactors
A written comment on the Ontario decision from Natural Resources Canada states that the government "continues to stand by AECL" as it pursues the restructuring. "We will be pleased to engage with Ontario in advancing common interests and goals," it continues, but the government will be "look[ing] after the best interests of Canada's nuclear industry and the taxpayer's long-term investment in nuclear energy."
Raitt was much more blunt in her appearance before the House of Commons committee. "The most beneficial thing that could have happened for AECL and for the restructuring, quite frankly, was that the Ontario process not be suspended," she said.
The dispute is a symptom of what John Cadham calls the "fragmented policy space" of nuclear power in Canada. "You've got the feds who are responsible for AECL and nuclear policy in general, but it is the provinces who run the utilities and buy and sell power," he explains.
"It's always the case of one government trying to offset its risk at the expense of the taxpayers of another one."
Now Ontario is playing the waiting game, and the federal government has the next move. For the Canadian public, the options are straightforward, but the choice is not.
Do we stick with the investment we've already made, and keep trying to make AECL successful?
Or do we cut our losses and let a competitor take over the company and any future profits, just so long as we're not on the hook for the continued costs of developing and selling a new nuclear reactor?
Year |
Estimates Process |
Amount (thousands) |
Stated Purpose |
'09-'10 |
Main |
$108,691 |
Facilities and Nuclear Operations, Research and Development |
|
Supplementary B |
$200,000 |
Funding to support the completion of CANDU reactor refurbishment projects |
|
Supplementary B |
$30,000 |
Funding for operating costs of the Advanced CANDU Reactor Development program |
|
Supplementary B |
$27,000 |
Funding to address regulatory and health, safety, security and environmental requirements at the Chalk River Laboratories, Ontario |
|
Supplementary B |
$18,000 |
Funding for continued isotope production, placing the Dedicated Isotope Facilities in a safe shut-down state and to meet regulatory requirements for extending the license of the National Research Universal (NRU) reactor |
|
|
|
|
'08-'09 |
Main |
$152,273 |
Facilities and Nuclear Operations, Research and Development |
|
Supplementary A |
$120,000 |
Funding for operating and capital costs to address regulatory and health, safety, security and environmental requirements at the Chalk River Laboratories, Ontario |
|
Supplementary A |
$100,000 |
Funding for operating costs of the Advanced CANDU Reactor Development program |
|
Supplementary A |
$80,000 |
Funding for capital costs of the Dedicated Isotope Facilities at the Chalk River Laboratories, Ontario [i.e., the MAPLE reactor project, which was cancelled a few months later] |
|
Supplementary C |
$100,000 |
Funding to support the completion of CANDU reactor refurbishment projects |
|
|
|
|
'07-'08 |
Main |
$103,749 |
Facilities and Nuclear Operations, Research and Development |
|
Supplementary A |
$71,207 |
Funding for working capital ($25,600) and to address regulatory, health, safety, security and environmental requirements at the Chalk River Laboratories in Ontario ($45,607) |
|
Supplementary A |
$37,500 |
Funding for the development of the Advanced CANDU Reactor |
|
|
|
|
'06-'07 |
Main |
$103,749 |
Facilities and Nuclear Operations, Research and Development |
|
Supplementary A |
$8,400 |
Funding for infrastructure refurbishment projects at the Chalk River Laboratories in Ontario to address health, safety, security and environmental requirements |
|
|
|
|
'05-'06 |
Main |
$98,838 |
Facilities and Nuclear Operations, Research and Development |
|
Supplementary A |
$60,000 |
Incremental funding for the continued development and pre-licensing of the new advanced CANDU nuclear reactor |
|
|
|
|
'04-'05 |
Main |
$127,838 |
Nuclear Research and Development -- Operating expenses |
|
Supplementary A |
$35,000 |
Funding for the development of a new advanced nuclear reactor to be used to generate power and for potential sales in domestic and international markets (Advanced CANDU Reactor) |
| Total funds allocated to AECL in Main Estimates -- $695,138,000 | |||
| Total funds allocated through Supplementary Estimates -- $887,107,000 | |||
Source: compiled from estimates documents published by the Treasury Board Secretariat
Notes: The 2009-10 Supplementary B funds will be voted on by Parliament in December, although half of the funding for the CANDU refurbishment projects has already been advanced from a contingency fund. These figures do not include funding to address waste management and decommissioning of legacy projects at Chalk River, which are budgeted through the department of Natural Resources. ![]()





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make_up_another...
2 years ago
Let's Privatize Everything!
Why does private industry's knack for driving down costs and dealing in externalities give me the heebie-jeebies when it comes to nuclear power?
Probably because radiation is deadly.
alive
2 years ago
Good idea!
We could privatize the armed forces too!
In the good old days the king would hire a bunch of ruffians and let them do the battle for his people.
Rent an Army sound good to me, no more brave canadian soldiers killed and no need to worry about who kills who, as long as it all happens some place far away!
ReeferMadness
2 years ago
Brilliant Idea
Not only is this a fantastic idea but I also have the ideal name for it. We could call it Atomic Ventures and Radiology Organization or AVRO. Another great idea brought to you by your (neo)Conservative government.
Fiat lux
2 years ago
The nuke facilities should
The nuke facilities should be sold to some wealth creating multinational for dollars "created" from the air.
Then they could fire half the staff to be more efficient and later Canadians could get some good jobs-jobs-jobs guarding the abandoned facilities and dumps for a half million years, just in case somebody would want to build a school on top of them as they've done it over the uranium tailing dump in Kirkland Lake some years ago. .
Ed Deak.
shepsil
2 years ago
No more blind Gov't subsidies
Privatize our nuclear power industry with no more special status or treatment. Let it stand alone and be successful or not. No broken standards, subsidies, regulations or favoritism.
RickW
2 years ago
alive
Funny how, when I ask this of the rightistas, they always say that's a no-no........yet they cannot for the life of them come up with any reason for their reluctance....that makes "sense" with their alleged philosophy of privatization.
Just goes to show what a bunch of poo-brains they are......
RickW
2 years ago
Risky?
Or just made to look risky to a gullible public, to "justify" the firesale pricing?
Sort of like the Fast Ferries.......
RickW
2 years ago
make_up_another
Not according to James Lovelock.......
roady
2 years ago
you will not b able to see the sun
if we dont go nuclear, or drink the water, or watch tv
Fiat lux
2 years ago
Get rid of the fraudulent
Get rid of the fraudulent concepts of monetary efficiency and the GDP, rebuild the family farm system, stop forced urbanization and the depopulation of rural areas, accept physical efficiency for economics and the need for electric and oil consumption will drop like rocks.
Ed Deak, Big Lake
one
2 years ago
Highest Bidder
We SHOULD sell CANDU to the highest islamic bidder. No questions asked.
Luck
2 years ago
Privatize Everything
Your right guys why not privatize everthing that moves.
Lets start with our Federal and Provincial Governments across Canada.
You will then see how much waste is cut out. Likely Billions of dollars of incompetent workers for sure.
Great idea to privatize everything we can't stand to change like prostitution, porno, wars (send corporate robots), marijuanna and generic drugs to name a few.
Just these few untaxed avenues to date can bring in Billions of dollars to run the country. Don't believe it, ask the gangs who are trying to rule our streets.
If we privatized everything we would have nothing to moan about.
Look on the bright side of life the gun registry is being disposed of. Whats next.
All that has to happen is the seniors poulation which is growing every year, needs to unite and run for federal MP seats and we get a better country. Think about privatizating that.
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Hurry Hurry Hurry !!
- it's a Giveaway !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuiFplYlLCg&NR=1
Hurry on Down to
Happy Harper's Crrazzzeeeee Con Warehouse Sales !!
Wweee'rrre Insssannne !!
make_up_another...
2 years ago
Random Thoughts
shepsil - yes if Nuclear had to survive in the real market, without subsidies, it would probably fall flat on its ass, or face, same thing.
We should sell it to the Iranians, just to irritate the Yanks!
The Life & Times of S. Harper: How I Got Rich Flipping Public Property
seth
2 years ago
Wood Choppers
AECL and the the rest of the world over the last 30 years suffered from the mindless political manipulations of the nitwits at organizations like Greenpeace who were so successful at replacing nuclear with King Coal killing millions in the process. AECL was lucky to have survived at all.
Harpos Neocon ideology ignores the fact that the private sector is now largely run by teams of ole boy's club attorneys specializing in making quarterly returns look large and bonuses huge. Political connections, campaign donations, and unstated but very real promises of post political board of director and consulting contracts keeps unaudited government business flowing and the regulators away. The engineers and entrepreneurs that used to run businesses are now back in the shop and are treated as a sometimes necessary expense. If an investment payback is more than a year - forget it. Nortel, GM, Chrysler. Lehman Bros. Goldman Sachs the list is endless.
The private sector can't compete with national governments when multibillion dollar investments are required in things like the space programs, Manhattan projects or the massive program required to save our asses from Big Oil and the climate crisis.
The current peak Oil/ Climate crisis is an unprecedented opportunity for nuclear power with 10000 new nuclear reactors required to save civilization and AECL despite its relatively minor problems is ideally positioned to take advantage.
We can dump AECL and go back to chopping down trees for a living passing the opportunity on to France, China, India, or the US or we can take advantage of our investment and take a shot at building AECL into the biggest industry Canada has ever seen.
Luck
2 years ago
Possibly more doom and gloom
Does any know whats happening with the Strata Property Act.
Heard that the Prov. Gov is tampering with this ACT again.
Someone please respond if you know whats happening here with this Act.
Thank you
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Sunrise on Every Thrifty Home
- for the sun shineth on both the righteous and the unjust:
http://madeinalberta.ca/solar-alberta-channel.shtml
Nuclear Waste not, want not:
http://tinyurl.com/NuclearPowerHoax
RickW
2 years ago
seth
I think it should read: "Harper's Neocon ideology embraces........"
Witness the latest embarrassment called Nortel:
http://www.itworldcanada.com/blogs/cdn/2009/11/27/nortel-bonuses-is-nothing-short-of-shameful/52550/
with the defacto encouragement of the Harper government - which I will add, is carrying on the "fine" Liberal penchant for the de-industrialization of Canada.
YCSTS
2 years ago
Oily off in his Astroturf covered Oil & Coal Paradise again.
That Solar power just cost sunny Spain $26 billion for a lousy 450 Mw avg of unreliable, intermittent power. Germany is paying $113B for 1.37GW avg. The power output of one Nuclear Power plant, which costs $1B to $4B.
Check this book out:
http://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-Economy-Zachary-Moitoza/dp/1441561269
You see that bit of Yellowcake that the author is holding in his right hand. That is enough to supply all of your lifetime’s energy needs. And the amount of Nuclear Waste you will generate is about the same.
Better yet, read the above book, get yourself educated on Nuclear Energy. The survival of the next generation depends upon it.
The author’s conclusion:
“…In the face of economic and environmental collapse, and so-called “renewables” not measuring up, people are finally starting to realize the little secret that only nuclear power can revitalize the economy and the environment… In June 2009, at an annual shareholder meeting in DAllas, ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson said that the age of fossil fuels would last 100 years because there is no alternative. Conveniently, this is just long enough for most of the fossil fuels to be burnt, even coal. This book was written precisely to show that there is one alternative, which the fossil fuel industries rarely seem to mention. Petroleum man may be nearing extinction, but uranium man must rise to take his place… Energy can be a tough subject to understand, and the fossil fuel industries have benefited from an uninformed public… the time to end energy ignorance is now…”
http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/11/27/the-nuclear-economy/
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Yeechhts!
*WARNING*
Graphic and disturbing images of Uranium Man :
http://depleteduraniumthechildkiller.com/
The survival of this generation of nuclear waste will last longer than any human civilization ever has.
http://tinyurl.com/NuclearFails
brg61
2 years ago
Keep this industry in Canada.
After reading the article, I don't see the benefit in selling this operation....especially to any of the foreign corporations cited as likely bidders.
We would be throwing away our own technology, developed over decades by Canadian researchers using tax dollars invested for the long term. AECL is our player in a very complex science that rogue leaders of unstable nations desire for nuclear weapons.
Once again the simple minds inside neo-con skulls miss the wider view. They expect investments in atomic energy to return the same quick and easy profits of oil and gas or coal.
They don't seem to understand that knowledge based jobs and international recognition in the extraordinary field of atomic research IS a dividend.
The neo-conservative obsession with immediate and unsustainable profits derived from economic bubbles is reckless. This government, with their greedy investment banker friends will reduce Canada to a nation of store clerks peddling crap imported from places where people work at real jobs.
YCSTS
2 years ago
Depleted uranium?
Oily, read the truth about depleted Uranium here.
http://depletedcranium.com/depleted-uranium-its-all-around-you/
Your Astroturfer sources sure have a knack for using irrational, despicably dishonest scare tactics.
You can buy depleted uranium on Ebay. It lasts a long time, because it's depleted of radioactive U235. Much less radioactive than natural uranium.
The important thing is it is a high energy fuel. One kg will fuel a 1 GW, GenIV nuclear reactor for 1 yr. So why are your pro-Oil, pro-Coal buddies in the U.S. Gov't planning on permanently disposing of the entire U.S. stockpile of 551,000 tonnes. An extraordinary act of ENVIRONMENTAL TERRORISM!
“…Did you know that our uranium waste is our nation’s #1 energy resource? In fact, just in the depleted uranium (DU) waste alone (the stuff left over after natural uranium has been enriched), we have more than 10 times the extractable energy than we have from coal in the ground!…”
“…the energy content contained in LWR spent fuel and depleted uranium resulting from weapons production and enriched LWR new fuel production exceeds all the known oil reserves in the world….”
The Traveling Wave Reactor – Burner of Depleted Uranium:
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/files/TerraPowerGilleland.pdf
Steve Kirsch on the IFR – Burner of Depleted Uranium:
http://skirsch.com/politics/globalwarming/ifrQandA.htm
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Pity the Nuclearistas
Just one failure after another ; the Charlie Brown of Energy if only that pesky Reality would stop snatching away all their great intentions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h38srxvt6qE
In the meantime, a business plan ready to go :
http://wadecanada.ca/doc_index/WADE_Canada_Business_Plan.pdf
YCSTS
2 years ago
Oily introduces WADE - another AstroTurf SCAM to Burn NG
Learn the truth about Energy here (click on the view intro video button):
http://www.terrestrialenergy.org/
As for this WADE Natural Gas sales organization. Please tell us how moving NG thousands of miles, building environmentally destructive pipelines, shipping dangerous LNG (A Terrorist's Dream) halfway across the planet, from a Tiny Unstable area in the Middle East is DECENTRALIZED ENERGY?!?
The Wade Scam Artists, try to gloss over the fact that their whole “decentralized” energy scam is almost entirely based on Natural Gas. They don’t mention that Wind Turbines are HIGHLY CENTRALIZED ENERGY, that is concentrated in isolated regions of low population density, whose power must be transported long distances on giant quadruple oversized power transmission lines.
As for their 80% efficient NG CHP power. An ordinary NG furnace is 95% efficient. So what so big about your CHP power plant. And these morons are actually pushing Fool Cell cars – they don’t have a clue about energy or could care less – as long as they can sell that HIGHLY LIMITED NG. Besides anyone with half a brain, who has ever analyzed the very serious peak fossil fuel Energy issues, realizes that using NG for power & heat generation is just plain stupid. We have already hit Peak Oil. Oil is much more expensive than NG. We should be conserving our NG so we can convert it into Methanol & DME to burn in vehicles, instead of squandering it on power & heat generation. Nuclear can supply our power & heat more cheaply than NG can.
The poster boy for their CHP plan is Denmark, with the highest electricity prices in Europe (by far), and the highest emissions in Europe of 881 gm’s CO2 per kwh of electricity generated. Nuclear France is the lowest at 83 gms CO2 per kwh generated:
See:
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/withouthotair/cI/page_335.shtml
YCSTS
2 years ago
Nuclear CHP is far superior to Biomass or NG fueled CHP
David Mackay blows apart Greenpeace’s, Denmark & Holland's CHP Electricity production, on pages 144 to 154 of his paper, " Sustainable Energy without the Hot Air":
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/sustainable/book/tex/sewtha.pdf
CHP works much better with Nuclear than with NG or Biomass burning anyway. Why?
Because the regions that need CHP most are Northern areas, or the Antarctic, where Biomass is nil, or of extremely low productivity, NG is not available, and building heat is needed 8 to 12 months of the year. The high grade heat of the Nuclear Power plant is also very useful to supply process & building heat to remote Mines. Small Nuclear power plants like the Hyperion or the Toshiba 4S would be ideal for these applications.
In the North we could be using Slowpoke III’s nuclear reactors for heat & power in small communities. Shutdown by Oil Interests, who don’t want any competition, for their GHG belching, Terrorist funding, Toxic Smog & Spill causing product.
Typical household, 3000 liters per yr fuel oil for heat @ > $1 per liter or $3,000 per yr. That's worth $34k present value on a 17 yr, 5% bond. You would need to supply peak heat + power of typically around 12 kw, so that's $2.8k per kwth peak plus the cost of the Heat & Power plants, which brings us to $3.1k per kwth. With the Hyperion hot-tub sized nuclear reactor at $457 per kwth, that sounds like a NO-BRAINER!.
Many communities in the 300 persons range, probable total peak load, including commercial & government, a little industrial, about 6 MWth. So a 10 MWth Slowpoke III, would be about an ideal size. With Hydro is proving to be a very difficult sell in the North, the latest plan to just supply Iqualuit with Hydro has been priced at $200M for 5 MW or $40k per kw & 6 yrs development, power only – no electric heating. So AECL can sell Slowpoke III’s for about $1k per kwth, heat & power –YOU KNOW WHAT- THAT IS ENERGY SALVATION FOR THE NORTH.!
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Salvation is for Souls
The living need redemption:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzwY7R85wC0
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
Boucle d'Or
Not too hot, not too cold:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/utilities/article6626811.ece
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
A nuclear attack of the Vapours
Carboniferous construction, mining, milling, processing and - don't forget! - radiowaste storage:
http://tinyurl.com/CarbonatedNuclear
OilbertaRedTory
2 years ago
The born-again nukers
... look more like a miscarriage:
http://www.bmu.de/english/nuclear_safety/downloads/doc/44832.php
dave49
2 years ago
Britain's decision
What if you had a 'great' product, but no one wanted to buy it?
Back in the mid-1980s, the Brits were looking at what nuclear technology to use to replace their Advanced (??) Gas Cooled Reactors. They were frankly appalling pieces of technology, which repeatedly leaked radioactive gasses. The Sellafield Inquiry (a good source is The New Scientist) looked at CANDU, but apparently they disliked the fact that CANDU requires a heavy water upgrader on site (more capital cost), which uses highly toxic hydrogen sulfide gas (industrial and environmental health risk).
Typically, it is seen as the public role to make risky investments. When it comes to a money pit like CANDU, when is it time to say enough? We're not talking about some children's parable like "The Little Engine That Could" where a simple affirmation will solve the problem. We're talking about billions and billions of dollars already under the bridge and billions more needed.
What if you had a 'great' product, but no one wanted to buy it?
And don't forget, AECL is already on the hook for cost over-runs on reactor refurbishing, a notoriously expensive process. Do we want to keep subsidizing this? If no one want to buy AECL, maybe potential buyers don't like the risk profile or question the potential gains of such an acquisition.
jwstewart
2 years ago
"A Billion here, a Billion
"A Billion here, a Billion there, pretty soon your talking about real money."
dave49
2 years ago
A political football
A good parallel to the government's dilemma with AECL & CANDU is that of Quebec and its asbestos industry. The Harper government has supported the industry by destroying the Rotterdam Convention, which would have required countries exporting known hazardous materials to provide information on safe handling, rather like a MSDS (Material Data Safety Sheet).
Quebec nationalized the asbestos industry, which was crumbling into bankruptcy because of the cumulative industrial health disaster of this toxic material. Since then, no Federal political party has had the guts to propose shutting down the industry, it would cost them potential votes in la belle province. Ignatieff recently talked about dealing with the asbestos industry and he is to be commended for his courage. As it stands now, the export of asbestos exports only misery and death in developing countries that lack the knowledge and wherewithal to use it safely.
Similarly, selling off AECL or it's CANDU technology for peanuts will be political suicide. Then again, keeping it in public hands and continuing with yet another reactor design will cost taxpayers billions and provide little tangible benefit. A choice has to be made and not deciding is still a choice with consequences.