Yes, yes do tell

It is now very clear that the BC Rail (Robert's Bank div.) Tsawwassen First nations treaty, and now a large rail yard in West Delta are all connected. It seems the complicated affair all have a common denominator.

Nobody seems to mention that

Nobody seems to mention that the BCLibs are, basically the rejuvenated Socreds and Reform combined, and although there's precious little difference between them, apart from the similarities in the names, closer to Harper than Dion.

All of them working for "wealth creating" corporate dictatorships for BC and Canada......and with their offshore brethren, for the whole world.

Ed Deak.

That's an interesting point Ed

Do you suppose that's why none of Mr. Campbell's friends on the Conservative side of the Federal parliament are running around with their hair on fire screaming about the fact that a good many of Mr. Dion's 'BC brains trust' actually ARE linked to the BCRail case?

I mean, after all, as you put it so well - it didn't happen in Quebec and one of the real reasons so many of these guys are in politics in the first place is because they're engaged in 'wealth creation' activities.

The actual idea of public service - when extended to the ‘boyz’ behind the throne - is a contradiction in terms. Although the Basi Boyz got dumped summarily, most of the rest of the guys and gals they worked with and for have just moved on from one triumph to another. No doubt Jamie and Erik are both busy finding ways to turn their testimony at the trial into just another feather in their caps.

Who know what goes on behind

Who know what goes on behind closed doors and , especially on the golf courses?

I would say, now most of the oligopolic/cartel price fixings and takeover conspiracies are done on the links, without planted microphones and spies.

The whole system is so crooked and corrupt, that practically all of them could be jailed tomorrow on a whole slew of charges.

When the power of money creation is handed over to a special interest sector, to be used as a colonizing army, anything goes.

Ed Deak.

BCR

Still a sore point with me is this 'deal' that Gordo made with his financial benefactors CN.

What will happen if by some stroke of good fortune to BC tax payors, there is found to have been some hanky panky in that deal? Do we get to quash that deal as we should?

As angry as I am with the NDP's bungling of BC affairs, I always feel like I'm being screwed by the BC Liberals (cousins to the federals too right?) Despite any references to Reform/Conservative voters hanging their hats with the BC libs, it's not that they are ideologically twined so much as they simply cannot bear the thought of another NDP government.

In all fairness, I too made the Liberal X provincially. (I immeadiately went home and tried to shower the stench off)

Anyway, BC does deserve to have a working legacy. I want the BCR back. It was working. And you know that Gordo is trying to figure out how to sell hydro too!

Thanks Grumpy.

Thanks Grumpy for your comment. I live in South Delta and now it seems I will be able to hear the sounds of the proposed massive railyard.

What is happening out here-The Tsawwassen First Nation Treaty, The Roberts Bank Expansion and a developer is trying to develop Southland {Spetifore Property} a so-called "green development"- is no accident that it is all happening at the same time.

Out here is some of the best agricultural land and habitat -both land and marine-close to Vancouver. The "grab" is on before it will be too politically unfeasable to develop these properties.

People need to wake up, soon the cost of eating imported food will be so high that we will need every acre of agricultural land and where will it be? Under railways, under roads to ports, under so called "green developments, under railway yards.
Roberts Bank will be dead and unable to support and marine or bird life.

This is a major story. Very few have been able to put it together. It's a complicated story but in the end a few will walk away rich and the rest of us....well who knows?

How will this "grab" be judged in years to come? We have a chance to save this land for the benefit of us all but it looks like the benefits will go to a few.

The yellow peril

South Delta chap (or chapette) I have it from a very good source that the Neptune terminals in north Vancouver are moving to Delta Port. The yard is needed to hold the unit trains because there isn't enough pathways to service the 'pods'. The yard will not be a rail-yard in the normal sense, rather a vast parking lot for km. long unit trains!

Already North Vancouver (District or City) is making plans for a massive condo development on the sight and of course, the centre of the universe Vancouver Parks Board want to be rid of the bright yellow landmark, for better vistas from Stanley Park.

It seems Campbell decided for political reasons, to give the TFN ALR land, so they can lease it back to CN (is there a secret deal?) and other major players in the Super Port expansion.

The railway will be double tracked to the CN main past Fort Langley and upwards of 40 trains a day (24-7) will use the line. There is a lot more but it is out of the scope of this blog.

Campbell is a deal maker and would not surprise me that Bassi & Virk are taking the fall for bigger fish.

The CN - BC Rail deal stinks and it now seems Campbell gave away the show. The money, I have been told, was used to finance the now over $2.3 billion RAV line.

One can say that Campbell sold out the residents of BC, just to make sure that LRT would not run 1 block away from his home!

We just not need a judicial review of the CN/BCR deal, we need a criminal investigation!

Crystal Ball: The " Gordon " of Eden

Forget the old " Big One" due...fasten your seatbelts on this new one.

Good comments, adding pieces to the bigger -yet -also- MORE- clearer- puzzle.

Now one thing re so -called "corruption"...unless its caught early, the grand scheme/master plans will simply unfold. THEY know THAT....

In other words, if you seriously think that say a year after RAV ,...or Roberts Bank TFN deal, ...or 2010 Olympics ....or that they find that suitcases of $$$ switched hands ,leaked documents, or mysterious Swiss Bank accounts...and/or "i"s weren't dotted or "t"'s not crossed , etc. etc. .....then I suggest that one shouldn't ever think anything will seriously change or be UNdone. It's all been set in motion.

It's then too late....all one sees is possibly a few token scapegoats and the issue and its list of consequences are just another poli- albatross to subsequent administrations which later simply fades into the fog of time and short memories.

Who is going to charge them...and then who ULTIMATELY pays even if " The People" win ???

Stir and repeat.

Again THEY K-N-O-W THAT.
(THEY = ALL parties of ALL stripes )

To be continued:...

" Gordon of Eden " (Cont'd)

Grumpy may recall this....but a few years ago in the Vancvouver Sun an article discussed the Cambie /RAV Line.

WHY did it go THERE... and NOT down Arbutus?

The article segauyed into THEN Vancouver City Hall's head honcho K. Dobell and his sufficient awareness of the West Siders which implies UBER NIMBY-ISM .

The article also noted that the demographics along Cambie had changed... and had a higher percentage of New Immigrant Asians, the implication being they tend to be a more silent type who often tend to not get involved aka thus sitting -ducks for RAV type poli- agendas.

Also, Vancouver was running out of land for development, and Cambie would be pencilled in as a Higher Density strip . Thus in the chicken and egg argument..which comes first (i) RAV - THEN higher density ? OR (ii) Higher Density -THEN RAV ? or (ii) do they both concurrently collide at the same time ?

My view is that RAV is and will be a major white elephant, in the past, present and future. Our politicians (who are effectively blind yet still wearing rose coloured glasses), were sucked into " sign -here re SkyTrain /RAV SVP- and -trust- us " mode, and that the Higher Density we see near the SkyTrain/RAV etc.is the politicians " Get -Out- Of -Jail- Card " ...which was also very likely presented to the elected officials by Bureaucrats and Developers as a solution to cover their political asses .....and thus reduce the TAX burden on the ever -screwed TaxPayer who will kick their sorry asses out of office if they dare foist more of the white elephant's cost onto us.

I have calculated that every High -Rise (ie 16 story) built in our town has the developer cut Development Cost Charges(DCC) cheque to the City of between $1 MILLION minimum into City Coffers. That doesn't include all the other fees and levies....and also the Property Taxes pulled yearly from every High Rise unit.

In my view,...That's what is really going on... of course throw in politically correct terms like Sustainability , Saving Farmland, eco-footprint blah blah...a spoonful of shear-gall makes the medicine go down prior to UPchuck.

It's all rooted in the West Siders "Gordon of Eden" NIMBYism....like squeezing a balloon and where does the PRESSURE go???....obviously its impact and costs and other negative aspects are NOT evenly distributed.

Stay tuned.

It's all connected ...

There's so much going wrong in the province of British Columbia and in my view, it's all connected. I'd like to see a complete list of the premier's financial holdings because there's scarcely a lake, a river, a waterfront, or a cornfield that isn't in some way under threat ... for the financial benefit of the few.

ASHLU RIVER

Against the voice of the local community and Government, Ledcor corporation is moving forward with a 49 megawatt hydro project that will divert water around some of the most beautiful canyons in Southwest BC.
 

See the following links:
http://www.watershedsentinel.ca/  (Rivers of Riches – article)
www.hydrofactsbc.ca
 
"Private capitalists inevitably control the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights." - Albert Einstein

Farce

The real farce about RAV is, no one transit route will solve traffic congestion. So RAV under Cambie St. will achieve very little. Would it not have been better to built LRT on the existing railway (former rapid transit route) on the Arbutus, then LRT on Cambie when demand warranted? We have put our eggs all in one large RAV/metro basket! Scrambled eggs do not, good transit, make.

Maestro, I do remember the article. It was a bit racist in that good little Chinese folk will happily take transit, while us white trash, will not. Has anyone been to Richmond recently?

The Campbell government is based on lies deceit, and shady dealings.

Just turned on the tv and

Just turned on the tv and guess who's being interviews on the Standard on channel 10 - Gordon himself. 9 pm Tues.

Same old ...

Grumpy:

The hidden variables...One guy recently wrote a letter in the newspaper and stated that he had given up his car and used BC Public Transit.

He found it increasingly unsafe ie muggers etc. and has now reverted back to his car.

Given this equation, perhaps the more Public Transit we have, the more people will revert back to cars, (assuming they ever leave them).

This can't be good news for Dion either

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/article/176377

Things seem to be shaping up nicely for both the PM and the Jean Charest in Quebec.

With the Liberals unable to get rid of their bad connections from the past - especially in Quebec - this does not bode well for anything except a majority conman government.

Let's hope things change soon.

Mr. M

I also read that letter and many others in local papers stating that former transit users are reverting back to the car.

This is nothing new. Buses have singularly proven not to attract new ridership; Metro's like SkyTrain are very poor in attracting new ridership as for many, they must use a bus to get to the metro!

The problem with our public transit is that the 'powers that be' have rejected the only mode that has a proven record in attracting the motorist from the car, modern LRT!

Still they plan for $100 million/km. rapid transit lines that will not come close in attracting the motorist from the car. One would think why Bombardier can't sell SkyTrain, yet over 100 new LRT systems have been built since SkyTrain was first marketed!

It's not SkyTrain itself (though the proprietary mode has major issues) it's the mode - metro, which is not LRT. The gang at the GVRD and TransLink do not understand the basic principles of public transport and continue to spend massive sums of money desperately trying to reinvent the wheel!

This is why TransLink has many spin doctors working for them, they are afraid of the truth.

All this is terrible for the environment because for all the money we are spending on public transit is mainly wasted on ill conceived projects and terrible planning.

Mr. G.

Grumpy:

In hindsight ,....The way these people who are "elected -to-represent -us -and- our -best -interests " and subsequently voted for this latest RAV/SkyTrain project STILL makes me cringe.

What was it..(2) NO Votes and then " 3 rd time lucky " YES Vote, but in less time than a Vegas wedding ?

Maybe its time we build a HALL of INFAMY/SHAME.

We'll have an indepedendent body of citizens review any all Gov't decisions and forever post the names of the guilty suspects. Free admission because it will be in an open public place, maybe even also on a plaque next to the White Elephant that indicted them ...err inaugerated them and made them "eligible and worthy members" of this HALL of SHAME.

Let's re-publish Cite Libre and toast Steve,the fart, Dion.

Steve Dion is a jackass. what a worthless toolbag. if he ever makes PM then look forward to canada as it was in the 90's: netherlands west. gay, prancing and politically correct. politicians unable to speak with conviction. neutral. neutered. spayed. blue berets. oh, and lest I forget -taxes up the youknowhat.

Ted Tweak.

Are you a pretender for Elliot's throne?

Perhaps if we bold your comments, which are obviously in violation of the Tyee guidelines, an editor will notice and ban you too.