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For the past seven weeks, our in-house pundit and prognosticator Will McMartin has penned a daily Battleground BC feature with analysis and commentary on the province’s 38th general election. Using a unique thirteen-region model of B.C.’s 79 electoral districts, McMartin has examined historic voting patterns, census data, poll results and local reportage, so to justify his decisions to place ridings into the categories of ‘likely’ Liberal, ‘solid’ Liberal, ‘likely’ NDP, ‘solid’ NDP, or ‘up-for-grabs.’
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Frank
7 years ago
Comments on "Beat Will McMartin at His Own Game!"
3 weeks ago I posted on the Tyee that it would be 41-38 for the NDP. The Green vote is wide, but its too shallow to elect an MLA under first-past-the-post. I also predict STV will get less than 50% support even though I hope it passes.
Bailey
7 years ago
I've been around this province a long time, and I smell a surprise.
Sometimes in this province people just stop talking to pollsters and reporters. They start gritting their teeth at the scoundrels' cheek at assuming we're so stupid that we'd swallow this crap.
It happened in the 70s, when Vander Zalm was prancing about with $50,000 in small unmarked bills in a brown paper bag in the middle of a Surrey night and tried to pretend it was a real estate deal. While his Socred buddies were pulling prime Richmond farmland out of the ALR by claiming it was rocky, then selling it for developments at a thousand percent or more profit.
Yup, lots of rocks in a river delta silt deposit. They float down the river y'see and hide in the subdivisions.
And people start to fume and ask themselves the question..."Just how frigging stupid do these A-holes think we are, anyway?"
Then suddenly it's a landslide for the opposition because people prefer inexperience to outright larceny, and it's toss the scoundrels out time. And the polls and the press missed it, or ignored it or thought they could fool people again.
Smells like that again, to me. I predict a landslide for anybody who isn't THEM.
billy pilgrim
7 years ago
i keep getting called by young campaign workers for my liberal mla, john nuraney. i think its 4 nights in a row. i have made it perfectly clear to these people that i hate their candidate and i am downright rude to them. yet they keep calling, they won't take no for an answer. the more they call, the more i hate them.
Bobb999
7 years ago
Be careful billy! Recall what happened to a constituent in (I believe it was)then Reform MP Randy White's riding. This aged war veteran contacted his MP requesting help
in dealing with some issue to do with Veterans' Affairs. He was refused help on the grounds that the constituent had not voted for the MP in the last election, but had supported a different candidate!
And how was it known how the man had voted?
When Reform campaign workers phoned him during the campaign, he had told them he would not be supporting their candidate. Records were kept of all such calls so the party would know who were "friends" and who were "enemies".
You're likely on the Fiberals "enemies" list now,and woe be unto you if you ever require help from a Fiberal MLA!
Reggin
7 years ago
I agree that the winds of change they are a blowin!! Even in the Okanagan, Sindi hawkins health has become the issue!
The NDP have picked up approx. 20% since the last election. If you look at those numbers and give them back the 20% then I get:
Liberals-30
NDP-37
Close-12
I believe the Green party will not do as well when the vote comes because most of them recognize that only voting for the NDP will get rid of Campbell! So, probably an even stonger NDP majority then above. Hoever, I may start looking for crows just in case!!
Frank
7 years ago
billy, do what I did. Say you're voting Liberal. They leave you alone.
I also said I needed a ride on election day
lynn
7 years ago
...now that's nicely subversive
sirjohna
7 years ago
very democratic too frank, you moron.
verso
7 years ago
Frank, you seemed to have rattled sirjohna.
Reggin
7 years ago
Playing trivia pursuit?
Chris H
7 years ago
That's hilarious ... get the other side to drive you to the polls! Nicely done.
My prediction:
Liberal 47
NDP 32
Green 0
I wish I could predict it the other way around, but I don't see an NDP victory right now. It was possible 9 months ago, but the amount of money the Liberals are throwing at this election in the last 5 months make a win a very big long shot.
kurt
7 years ago
Being an eternal optimist I'd call it 29 NDP, 1 Green, balance to Grits. Who's running the pool? Damon Runyon's ghost?
billy pilgrim
7 years ago
ndp 65
green 8
marijuana 6
if i win, i don't want the report, i never want to hear about the campbell liberals again.
Jeeves
7 years ago
I have a bottle of Laurent Perrier champagne (1987) chilled at optimium temperature. I'm hoping I'll be able to open it on the evening of May 17th. I'd love to say that I'll be drinking it in celebration of an NDP victory, but I'll open it regardless - especially if my North Island MLA wins. In fact, if my Green, DRP or Marijuana candidate wins, I'll drink to that as well. God forbid, my incumbent Fiberal MLA gets re-elected. Then I'll definately need a drink. I'm not sure if we have a Marijuana Party candidate here, but I can swear I just spoke with a few in the Superstore line-up.
Think locally. Act locally. Drink globally.
sirjohna
7 years ago
great prediction billy. bachelor of political science from the university of commercial drive?
mcmartin's right on this time. libs 50, Negative, Destructive, Pessimistic 29.
read 'em and weep lefties.
billy pilgrim
7 years ago
do you have to be a lefty to realize gord is an asshole and the bc rail sale was a giveaway? cnr was able to reduce shipping times by up to 2 days from their eastern hubs with the bc rail lines. they would have paid more. or heaven forbid, shithead could have kept this asset.
Truman Green
7 years ago
NDP 41 to 38, obviously.
Frank
7 years ago
Hey Truman, it looks like I'm going to get my ass kicked unless the NDP voters out there lie to the pollsters as much as I do >>
Reggin
7 years ago
Hey check out this poll!!
Castanet poll of Central Okanagan to Sat. May 14th
Lib-258
NDP-427
Gre- 51
Oth- 19
Und- 40
The winds of change they are a blowin!! Very unusual results for this area. Maybe the Greens DO realize it is NDP or the Fiberals again??
StandupforBC
7 years ago
I wish otherwise but my instinct tells me it will be a close race, the Liberals coming in with a minority. I would say real close with a few percentage points gap like: Lieberals 41 percent
NDP 38 per cent
And I love Frank's idea of letting the Liberals drive you to the polls so you can vote NDP. :P that put a smile on my face.
Bailey
7 years ago
Dear StandupforBC,
I don't see how it could possibly be close this time. Last time it was impossibly close, based on the fact that the enormous media blitz convinced huge numbers of people in health care, in unions, seniors, forestry and millworkers, who ordinarily vote NDP to go Liberal. Still it was nearly a fifty/fifty vote for and against them.
Then, as soon as they got in, rather than cherish this huge gift from the people of BC, these liberals proceeded to screw all these groups hard.
Even if just the 8000 HEU women they fired so they could sell their jobs to Sodhexo vote sanely again, the Liberals could lose a dozen seats.
Add the surviving seniors and disability pensioners, everybody who used to work for Dohman's, ex civil servants, everybody who has had to watch their student loan spiral and had to decide whether they can afford to finish their education, everybody who favors the Rule of Law, and everybody who's been watching the federal Liberals exposed on TV as a branch of the Montreal mob, and I really don't see a very close race here.
Truman Green
7 years ago
Bob 999, is that true or is it an urban legend? Reference, please.
sonic931
7 years ago
Negative, Destructive, Pessimistic
-you swallow those catch phrases hook line and sinker eh?When you say it loud,try to capture Ben Stein's tone... : )
sonic931
7 years ago
Repeat after me everyone(using Ben Stein's voice)"Negative,Destructive,Pessimistic"
"Negative,Destructive,Pessimistic"
"Negative,Destructive,Pessimistic"....
There now.Are we feeling any more "democratic"?
or just "prissy"? : )
Bailey
7 years ago
Ok,
Liberals--14
NDP-------55
Others----10
Little John
7 years ago
New Dippers 29
Liberal 50
May Day
7 years ago
These are not usual times. Don't be too ready to dismiss two groups, SENIORS and STUDENTS. Neither are as likely to fall for the Push Poll results as are others, but have lost a great deal because of Campbell's policies.
NDP 40, Fiberals 39.
cantancoRich
7 years ago
Hey May Day
I think you're very close.
I predict:
NDP 40
Liars 38
Green 0
Independent 1 (Delta South)
StandupforBC
7 years ago
Bailey you forget..money talks and the Liberals have lots of that, support from the corporations who still want to be pandered to..and support from Business BC, etc etc. Check out the LOonnnnnnnnnnng list of donations they had at the 2001 election, I bet the Lieberals still haven't gotten to the end of that list even today..in payoffs. Its undemocratic, but money wins every time.
Shane
7 years ago
The MP who refused a veteran's request for help was Toronto Liberal Tom Wappel. In 2001 James Baxter, 81, almost deaf and legally blind, asked Wappel for help in obtaining veterans' benefits for wartime members of the merchant marine. Wappel's constituency canvas info revealed that Baxter had switched allegiance to Reform in the 1997 election, so the MP wrote a sarcastic letter asking the vet why he should help him. Wappel stood by his response even when it hit the headlines, apologizing only when forced to by fellow Liberals.
Wappel was re-elected in 2004 with almost double the votes of his nearest opponent.
Shane
7 years ago
Oops. Wappel in fact received MORE than twice the votes of his Conservative opponent in 2004.
pdavies
7 years ago
Everyone is off base: The final results: NDP 39, Libs 39, and the Greens get the spoiler. Best of all, Graham Bruce is history!
crh
7 years ago
advance polling is 81%higher than previous election. Wow, that said, I think it spells good news for the NDP. Nothing like a good dose of anger to get ones' ass to the pole.
seanorr
7 years ago
if you read Canwest (including metro): Liberals 78, ndp 1
If you read the georgia straight: Liberals 60, ndp 18, work less party 1
if you read terminal city: liberals 40, ndp 38, green party 1
if you read tyee: ndp 78, liberals 1
pdavies
7 years ago
I will never read the Province, Sun or Times Nutbar again. Talk about biased media, the weekend editions of all 3 (especially the Province) went straight out and gave full endorsement to their cronies in Victoria. Gagh!
Oh and when Graham Bruce called asking if he could count on my support, I told him he could count on my support as much as I counted on his for the last 4 years. He was not sure how to read that (dunce).
So since I have given up on BC's big 3 newspapers, when is the Tyee going to include Sunday Comics (that's the only reason I buy the other ones).
pdavies
7 years ago
Ok, maybe 43 Liars and 35 NDP and one who knows?
pdavies
7 years ago
And yes Graham is gone.
Avicenna
7 years ago
As McMartin conceded his "bad day" as a pundit? The Greens low showing threw my guesstimate off - which was:
Liberal: 43
NDP: 34
Green: 2
Not too shabby in comparison to the rest of the polls out there... maybe if the STV were in effect, I'd have been more on the mark.