hint hint

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/04/wikileaks-julian-assange-iraq-video?page=1

Liberal lies

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@ Takuan - here's the direct link!

http://www.wikileaks.com/

The article in Mother Jones you referenced above was not very supportive of Wiki Leaks and seems to have been torn to shreds and discredited, judging by the comments.

Heel training for the leash holder?

Three Solicitors-General taken out by police scrutiny. Heed particularly was driving for reform in transparency and accountability, despite the apparent reluctance of cabinet colleagues. Now, he is gone because the RCMP opened a file? But the drunk drivers and land speculators can stay?

We have many examples of police and politicians washing their hands together. We must de-politicize the administration of justice in this province.

Learn more about the behavior of some in the justice habitat:

http://northerninsights.blogspot.com/2010/04/police-squad-from-encyclopedia-of.html

@Norman

Coming, as you do, from the North Shore, I'm sure you're aware of Mr Heed's other convenient resignation in the face of some other interesting allegations...

No doubt you remember that he resigned his position as the West Vancouver Chief of Police after he was accused of improperly disclosing information about the upcoming criminal charge of, what was it now, child pornography.

Seems he had a little tête-à-tête with a police board member who happened to be a co-worker of the putative accused who was about to be charged.

As I recall, Russ Chamberlain made a statement to the press (Vancouver Sun) concerning these matters....

"Criminal lawyer Russ Chamberlain said Friday there could be a case for obstruction of justice against Heed, and that anyone could file such a complaint. He said it would depend on Heed's motive for disclosing information about the investigation."

"You've got a smoking gun," Chamberlain said. "You don't have a conclusive case based on what I've seen, but you've sure got a lot of suspicion."

Maybe now would be a good time to bring up a little more of Heed's 'record'.

Y’see, I think that’s often the problem with those tight little family compacts called ‘squads’ – they pretty much think of themselves as being outside of and superior to the discipline of the rule book and the canons of legal ethics.

WVPD is more complicated that that

I believe that Heed was trying to do the right thing at the WVPD but ran afoul of the old boys. His trouble began when he overturned the questionable internal report after a drinking party at the station resulted in a WVPD officer driving away drunk and being involved in a collision. Despite that misconduct, the officer was put up for promotion not long after.

There had been the usual circle drawn around the story but Heed didn't buy in. He further offended them when he "suspended without pay" the WV constable who was involved in swarming an old man. After Heed left, it was disclosed that the guy was reinstated with minor punishment, that has now come under scrutiny of the police complaints commissioner. The WV bunch was so entrenched that Heed had to move on. You don't throw out the team, you discharge the coach.

Reminds me of the Bruce Chambers case at VPD when the old guard simply would not accept a new guy who aimed to see things done differently. Gradually those old clowns were pushed out and today we have a modern man as VPD chief. Publicly, he supports the troops but he is also kicking ass.

my choice was deliberate

I believe in Wikileaks. Thanks for the direct link though, the sentiment is appreciated.

Norman Farell

Actually i'm really torn on this one. Maybe it's simply that I find it hard to believe that we could actually have a good guy on Campbell's team, or maybe because of the following.

After all, Heed was referred to as "Campbell's rising star candidate" whom he appears to have been preelected for solicitor general even before the election results were in.

I watched the election from Heed's candidate office and it was appalling. I'm thinking it was a perplexed Bill Good from ctv that was there, and with 20 or so poll stations in, out of 120 or so, the workers there were dancing all around Heed and declaring victory. Strange only I guess unless you knew it was a foregone conclusion that you were going to win.

Next I guess is the fact that Wally Oppal was deliberately moved to another riding away from that one, where he of course, lost... Oppal originally being another personal pick of Campbell to join him and become attorney general.. apparently they had a falling out.

Because of this article I was not at all sad to see him go:

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090530/BC_gun_crime_knowledge_090530/20090530/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

Who handles election campaigns when the candidate is deemed to be a shoe in? I think it's pretty clear. The only thing I'm wondering at this point is why did it take almost a year for this to come under scrutiny?

by definition

you cannot have a "good guy" on the Campbell team. It cannot happen. What you DO have are people who have felt above the law for so long they have forgotten they are indeed [COMMENT REMOVED. -MODERATOR.].

Good guys or bad guys. who knows?

I agree with Takuan's statement. If they are still Liberals, it is because they are happy with the agenda. When you look at the massive MLA pension funding for retroactive service, you know they are being well rewarded. How many millions did that involve?

I'm told by news people there is no 'expenses' scandal likely to unfold here the way it did in Britain, but I wonder. Long ago, I spent time in municipal auditing and was always amazed how the payments to minor politicians mounted in the non-salary areas. It was a game that nobody talked about because they all did it.

I don't know for sure that Heed was absolutely clean but I know he was scaring some well entrenched police people with his talk as S.G. The new civilian oversight he was planning was a potential game changer that probably is out the window.

I rate the outrage potential of Heed's election spending question as rather mild. What will it amount to is the question but, at worst, someone other than Heed printed a partisan flyer without showing appropriate agent information. That is much less offensive to citizens that the calculated lying involved in the pre-election budget issues.

Based on the record, I think that Heed may have been set up to get him out of the way. He has afterall a very long record of public service that earned him a high rank in the VPD before the most recent change happened. Heed and Bob Rich stepped out when not chosen the new VPD chief. That allowed the appointee to insert his own people at the top so they were doing the right thing.

Norman Farrell

3 SG's in two years?

It actually makes me wonder what there is about that position.. possibly something they all brought up and wanted to change... it might be civilian oversight. I guess only Campbell knows for sure.

I'm more concerned with Heed's discussion -

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In my view it simply fits the mold for a Campbell appointment - combined with the details of his nomination and now this election issue I can't see him as any different from the other members of Campbell's cabinet.

@ Norman Farrell

You don`t know what you are talking about Norman..Gabriel yui complained from day one about Heed and his electioneering..

As for Kash Heed in West Van, [UNPROVEN ALLEGATIONS REMOVED. -MODERATOR.],Pamela Goldsmith Jones cut him a cheque and said git!

Heed made more money as police chief than cabinet minister.

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Give your head a shake Norman! Kash Heed should of known better,he didn`t ruffle the establishment,Heed is a filp flopper,

Heed was in favour photo radar,Campbell said no photo radar so pretzel bends to his master.

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And you Norman put Kash Heed on a pedestal,what the hell has Heed done,???NOTHING,a huge severance he didn`t deserve, oh I bet his soft voice has fooled you!

Kash Heed after the Jack Crone affair should not have run for office, oh yea,protect the rich boys club.

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The election financing is only part of it..A brochure full of lies,the NDP will legalize drugs,force people to join unions,death taxes,all looking like a professional brochure,

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A game breaker,tough stuff, like anyone in Campbell`s camp has a voice or power,

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You think Mary Polak,or Shirley Bond or Mcdiarmid or anyone makes decisions.next thing you know you will be praising, oh yea,you already did!

got your spreadsheets started up?

http://www.bclc.com/cm/aboutbclc/arthurwillms.htm

to Okanagan Orchadist,
Then there is this, which was brought to the attention of elections BC on the same day:

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090513/twitter_election_090513/20090513/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

Trudi Brown

Happens to be the niece of long time Liberal organizer and back room insider Mae Brown....Nice to see Gordo is keeping it in the family

@ Takuan - This profile in the Sunday Times favoured by JA

As favourably Twittered by the subject, Julian Assange:

"Profile on WikiLeaks editor (mostly, not entirely, correct) | Sunday Times" http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article7094231.ece

if your politicians are dirty,

and your cops are dirty and your courts are dirty...
What do you do? We don't even have a newspaper in our largest city here in BC.

Violence is not an option. Perhaps we should be looking at the history of South American societies. In almost every case they have somehow survived massive corruption and total democratic dysfunction (and outrageous violence) while under the rule of wealthy cliques, yet I still see some have progressed - while we regressed.

How did they make it work for the people? And how much lower do we have yet to descend?

Support the media and an open internet.

The traditional media are either too supportive of the current politics, ignorant of the consequences or too timid or cowardly of the powers that be. Sites like TheTyee, WikiLeaks, The Georgia Straight and all the individuals blogs and comments seem to be our only hope right now here in BC.

The Liberals have clearly gone down the Shock Doctrine road. They are cutting and slashing as fast as they can under the pretense that private for profit is the only model that works. When really it is just a cover for raping and pillaging our society and the existing democracy, such as it is.

At this rate, there will be many who will be forced into a corner and will come out fighting. Does that make violence an option? That depends on whether laying down and dying is an option? Once we enter the next level of financial turmoil, all bets are off. The underpinnings of the status quo are creaking and I will remain optimistic, but how unstable life will get for the common man is not something that gives one any hope. In fact hope should probably be thrown out the window, because the greed that exists in the world is not going to disappear until the greedy have us all living in the streets.

I ask myself at what point will I resort to violence to stop this greed? I don't know! But I do know that the cuts to our social benefits are only just starting, unbelievable as they are.

before violence

(and violence IS an option, just the last option - do not entertain it unless you are willing to die for what you believe, you and your family as well) consider this: if exposure of their crimes is meaningless since they own the legal process, then expose their private crimes. The infidelities, the alcoholism, the drug addiction, the perversion. Beasts, ,thieves, psychopaths, they are still vulnerable since they live in society.

Takuan

I trust you saw Julian Assange on Colbert tonight?

"if your politicians are dirty,
and your cops are dirty and your courts are dirty...
What do you do?"

How boring would it be if we had a set of instructions to follow? Keep doing what you are doing.

I've been studying Harper's hair btw, mostly because it looks so fake. Think he has a toupee?

no actually,

I'll look for that, thanks.

Harper's hair: that's a deliberate choice. He realized early that he had to draw attention away from his eyes.

see?:

http://paulitics.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/stephen_harper_victory.jpg

http://www.topnews.in/files/Adolf-Hitler225.jpg

like a mustache, it draws the eye

Hello Dear Moderator!

a small question if I may? I believe I used the word correctly:

crim·i·nal (krm-nl)
adj.
1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.
2. Relating to the administration of penal law.
3.
a. Guilty of crime.
b. Characteristic of a criminal.
4. Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.
n.
One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime.
[Middle English, from Old French criminel, from Late Latin crminlis, from Latin crmen, crmin-, accusation; see crime.]
crimi·nal·ly adv.

Have I misconstrued the Rules of the House in some way? I am quite sure that I can make successful argument in each and every case that those referred to fit the defintion of the term in at least some sense.

Fine

I'm more concerned with the allegation that Heed discussed with a member of the police board the fact that one of her colleagues was about to be charged with a child porn offence.

Here's the most recent reference (quoted directly from a Globe and Mail article) and I think it's MORE than an allegation by the way -

Globe and Mail: Ian Bailey and Mark Hume, April 9, 2010.
url:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/bc-solicitor-general-kash-heed-resigns/article1529591/

[IF THIS IS TRUE...] Someone of his experience had to know that was both unethical and held the potential to create a situation where an accused might get off.

[IF THIS IS TRUE... ] It shows an extreme lack of judgment and should have ruled him out as a potential cabinet member - in that portfolio at least.

In my view it simply fits the mold for a Campbell appointment - combined with the details of his nomination and now this election issue I can't see him as any different from the other members of Campbell's cabinet.

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Further

I also think it need to be noted that the reason for being concerned about Heed's actions in relation to a criminal prosecution is not in any way cancelled out because of the particular facts of the case.

I am concerned about the proper administration of justice and not so much concerned about the fate of a particular accused.

And I am very concerned about a police chief who takes his or her responsibilities as lightly as Heed has 'seemed' to in these circumstances.

Yet Another Bites the Dust

What is it with these guys? What is Campbell looking for when picking a Public Safety Minister, someone to keep six? Makes you wonder as Coleman lets the party know there is trouble headed there way? Know worries though as it is all kept under wraps as the public is left in the dark room. Heed was under controversay going in and he is under controversay going out. And it makes you wonder why Campbell is looking for in a Public Safety Minister that these guys can't get right. Corruption trickles down and not cash no pun intended as if anything I want something better for the men and women who do go out and defend the public like some class.

G West, you make good

G West, you make good arguments and yes, I am suggesting something more sinister is afoot. I blog about it regularly and it has everything to do with the 1 percenters putting their hands on even more of the public wealth than they now hold.

BC Rail, BC Hydro, private power, private education, high tuition fees, healthcare privatization . . . It's all there, the public sector is being eliminated. The corporate media, weak labor unions and, I fear, soon the Internet**, together play roles in remaking our society but not for the benefit of most citizens.

** Telus, allegedly, has already experimented with throttling traffic going to blogs. My site, and many others in the "unofficial opposition" were becoming inaccessible at times. There is one blog site that regularly loads very, very slowly for me using a Telus connection but responds normally from a Shaw connection. Google by the way confirmed that the only blogs affected during one particularly bad time were blogs with a Telus router in the stream. Further, a US court recently held that FCC cannot make rules against internet providers managing content flow. That is the thin edge of a very dangerous wedge.

POINT TAKEN NORMAN

I think there may be some other things to watch closely in the next few weeks as well...

the cheerful use of racism

by the powerful has never ceased to astound me, even more than the stupidity of the objects of it who think they have been invited to the table.

interlude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_u-Ka4E7k8

Election act applies to everyone.

Campbell showed little respect for the law when he suggested this was a trivial matter that would go away soon. Realizing the arrogance of his comment he said he was responding to his media friends who failed to see any problem.
Gotta love our lame and obsequious idiots in the main stream media.