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Bring on Medical Tourism, Says Private Provider
Locals would have to be able to buy their way to front of queue, too, says private clinic director.
Health Minister Kevin Falcon.
Private health care providers are locked in a legal battle with the British Columbia health ministry, but their greatest ally may turn out to be the very minister they are up against in court.
The most recent encouragement came from the comments Health Minister Kevin Falcon made last week about B.C. becoming a destination for medical tourism, providing a sort of a Mayo clinic of the north. While Falcon argued that his plan would help support the public health system, at least some private health service providers see it as support for the changes they advocate.
"If he's going to pull that off it's probably the best thing that could happen in British Columbia," said Mark Godley, the clinic director at the False Creek Surgical Centre.
While Falcon has pitched the idea to sell access to people from elsewhere, Godley said he doesn't think it would be possible to deny locals the same deal. "If he can pull it off, British Columbians would also have to be able to get access to this priority line," he said.
Falcon's success is unlikely, Godley acknowledged. "The biggest obstacle he's going to have is the Canada Health Act, so good luck." And while the federal government might appear ideologically open to letting people pay for quicker access, their actions -- including withholding transfer payments from province's that allow the law to be broken -- suggest otherwise, he said.
But Falcon is on the right track, Godley said. "Absolutely, his heart's definitely in the right place. I wish him well," he said. "He comes from a business background, he's looking outside the box about ways to bring money into the system."
Ministry defending law
That might seem odd praise considering Falcon is, at least officially, fighting to keep clinics like Godley's inside the box set by Canadian law.
The court case dates back to Jan. 2009, when Brian Day led a group of for-profit clinics launching the suit against the provincial government, according to a summary on the B.C. Health Coalition's website. The Coalition sees the suit as a major threat to public healthcare.
"They are seeking to have the courts strike down our provincial health care legislation, the Medical Protection Act, to allow U.S.-style private insurance companies access to the 'health care market' in British Columbia," says the website, which includes links to the filings from all the parties involved. "Brian Day is also attempting to stop the provincial government from auditing his clinics."
It also notes, "At least thirty complaints have been filed by patients in B.C. claiming that Dr. Day has engaged in double-billing by requesting payment from both the patient and the provincial government."
The province has so far argued against extra billing and in favour of protecting the public system.
The Canada Health Act's purpose, the province's Feb. 2009, statement of defence said, "is to preserve a publicly managed and fiscally sustainable health care system for British Columbia in which access to necessary medical care is based on need and not an individual's ability to pay."
Argued for equitable access
The statement continued, "There is a strong public interest in maintaining a health care system that operates in a fair, efficient, and cost-effective manner, and in particular one that is, and is perceived to be, reasonably fair and equitable in the allocation of available medical resources throughout the population."
Extra billing by clinics like False Creek threatens public confidence that health care is being made available fairly, it said.
It also exposes the province to financial loss as the federal government reduces health transfer payments for any amounts "unlawfully charged to beneficiaries," the statement said. "In acting unlawfully as they have, [the clinics] intended to cause economic loss to the Province, or been wilfully blind or reckless with respect to whether such loss would occur."
The submission also says that every doctor in the country has the option of opting out of the medical services plan and being paid directly by patients. They just can't be paid by both the government and the patient.
How do Falcon's comments square with the province's ongoing court battle with the clinics? Falcon declined an interview request.
'It's obvious there's a contradiction': private clinic doc
While Falcon might not want to talk about the contradiction between his public comments and the court case, False Creek's Godley is willing.
"I think it's very obvious," he said. "It's obvious there's a contradiction. It's obvious to most people who know what's going on."
Falcon is trying to carve out a reputation as an ideas guy, said New Democratic Party health critic Adrian Dix. The problem is his ideas are bad ones and poorly thought out, he said. "He's clearly mouthing off like a right-wing blogger while at the same time pretending to be the minister of health."
Falcon's latest musings, as others have in the past, undermine a case the government should be fighting on behalf of all British Columbians, Dix said. "I think it shows an extraordinary lack of seriousness about the issues involved."
And it boosts the government's opponents, he said. "One of their few allies appears to be Kevin Falcon, the person they're supposed to be suing."
Premier Gordon Campbell appointed Falcon health minister in June. In his first scrum with reporters Falcon said, "I truly believe that so much of the health care discussion in this country is blocked by silly ideological arguments." In the fall he enthusiastically advocated charging a premium to have patients from Saskatchewan receive surgery in B.C., comments that made the plan a tough political sell in the prairie province.
"I think this isn't the first time the minister of health has failed to understand the legal duties of his office," said Dix, noting it is hard to tell how much support Falcon's ideas have in cabinet. "I would hope it doesn't have support within the government and I don't think it has support in the province." ![]()




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Takuan
2 years ago
there must be a way
to give this man cancer.
Groucho
2 years ago
there must be a way
to get better people into opposition of this amazingly corrupt government. Dix's rebuttal is so mild that he might as well be a college student standing at a skytrain stop, politely requesting people sign a petition. Oh, wait, that is actually what he has been doing since the budget was announced, as he says on his website.
http://www.adriandix.ca/in_community.php
No wonder the Liberals have no fear in this province.
miguel
2 years ago
The system
Health-care is determined by the government. If the system is inadequate or underfunded, that is self condemnation of the people in charge.
Takuan
2 years ago
keep watching
It's a long way to the mext election. They aren't entirely stupid so they will probably stage an assassination attentpt or bombing plot; This will serve to defuse the growing rage over citizen impotence to stop the wholesale graft and theft and also redirect public anger away from its rightful target. It worked at the Game$, it will work again. They have the collusion of the police and courts already, it'll be a doddle. Either a mentally ill patsy will be found, or the "conspirators" will miraculously get away. It's very easy to win every hand when everyone else is playing by rules.
Grania
2 years ago
RECALL!!
We MUST get rid of the current government...and Godfrey , hopefully, will end up in hell.
G West
2 years ago
I hope none of you listen to CKNW
Godley's little false creek false flag operation - the False Creek Surgical Centre - is a big advertiser on that station.
If you want to let Godley and Falcon know what you think of their efforts to subvert the Canada Health Act there is no better way than to turn your radios to other stations AND let CKNW know why you're doing that.
Consumers and listeners have power - they simply have to learn how to exercise it more effectively.
freebear
2 years ago
Build your own hospitals then!
Go ahead, but:
You can't use public facilities - no welfare for 'free entreprise' healthcare!
If you steal publicly educated health care practitioners you will pay a premium!
If your 'free entreprise' results in reduced availability of healthcare practitioners for the public health care system you pay a premium..
then go ahead, see how far your willing to go on your private investment without taxpayer help!
Noggy
2 years ago
I do not understand.
When the parasites have finished feeding on their hosts, they too will perish in their own blinded stupidity. My only smile is the fact, the parasites will die lonely and unloved.
Takuan
2 years ago
they lay eggs
they lay eggs
vickky
2 years ago
The Doctor Fairy
Where are they going to get more doctors and nurses? The Doctor Fairy?
Whiskey River
2 years ago
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Never happen...But Falcon will try.
It`s against the law,despite what False creek clinic or Dr. Day(dreamer) wants...the media..Blind mice!
http://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/2009/11/medical-tourism-and-media-three-blind.html
Cheers
Polakite
2 years ago
Kevvy...
Nice try. But you'll be better off trying this in Alberta first.
Polakite
2 years ago
To Groucho...
Sure, I like the thought of BCNDP self-igniting in all their LIES and going the way of the T-Rex and the telegraph. Now Adrian is taking BCNDP to school in maturity and being a MLA.
Oh and did you and G West know my handle is in tribute to the hero who stopped the BCNDP socialist hordes? Yeah, that MLA. That one you people think is weak. That one you have read last political rites to.
Laughing all the way to 2013.
G West
2 years ago
Polakite
Oh I know who you're paying homage to.
I just can't understand why anyone would saddle himself with the millstone of a 'hero' who - with her pal and mentor Heather Stilwell - managed to burn up more than a million dollars of the taxes of the people of Surrey in a Quixotic charge on the Supreme Court of Canada to prove just exactly how full of hate and prejudice they are.
freebear
2 years ago
Falcon acknowledged today on CBC Almanac
that there is excess capacity in the system (underutilized O.R.s tec.) and in order to reduce waiting lists they could purchase more operating room time.
Maybe the carbon tax should have been a healthcare tax eh!
Skywalker
2 years ago
I listened to Falcon babble on for a while.
Then I moved on because he never answered a question directly. Is it rocket science to conclude that if you already have wait lists and no attract paying, cue jumping non BC residents to your surgery rooms, the wait lists for BC residents will get longer.
The guy is a complete moroon and he showed it again.
freebear
2 years ago
Maroon and moron!
Oh yeah he danced around questions; regurgitated his spiel, gave the long winded non answer so fewer callers could ask questions.
I wonder what kind of paramedic service he would get injured?
Nothing but professional service I am sure, but I would love to jab the I.V. into him!!!!!
Curt
2 years ago
Falcon family’s own
Falcon family’s own experiences with the health-care system. Falcon’s mother was a nurse for 30 years, mostly at St. Paul’s. His father had to have extensive nursing care during his years of illness with Shy-Drager “We could never have afforded the care that he got if we’d had to pay,” says Falcon.
“One of the things I’ve always fought for and believe in is the average working man or woman out there” – the Fred’s and Mary’s, he calls them – “who’s earning $40,000 to $50,000 and is just struggling to make ends meet.”
Hey Kev, anyone I know, and there’s quite a few, don’t make this kind of money and have been struggling to make ends meet for some time now. . And with your governments new increases and additional fees -- MSP, carbon tax, hydro, tolls, how is the “average working man or woman” suppose to pay for these increases and additions? Wages are held to 0, never raised the minimum wage, cut back or privatized many services creating only part-time work (the private ones aren’t saving money, they’ve just been moved off the government books) Removed services from MSP which helped many to stay healthy longer, including seniors. How is it people are supposed to pay for the basics? PLEASE, give us a hint.
Polakite
2 years ago
Leave it to Kevvy...
to rev that mouth.
And some want him as Premier.
Dan the socialist
2 years ago
Does BC even have an
Does BC even have an opposition party any more? If we do it is news to me. Maybe they are all on vacation?
I will never ever vote Gordo and since no opposition in BC I guess I will just vote for a fringe party or an Indy next time if I even feel like voting. No wonder voter turnout keeps going down, no alterbatives.
Takuan
2 years ago
anything but Drunko IS an
anything but Drunko IS an alternative.
Frank
2 years ago
Dan
One would think that it would be pretty easy to find an alternative to Campbell on the ballot no matter which riding you lived in.
freebear
2 years ago
Not voting/spoiling ballot another option
And don't vtell me not voting means you give up your right to complain!
Maybe if I only paid taxes once every 4 years!
Frank
2 years ago
freebear
I'm not arguing that non-voting isn't a valid option, I'm arguing that its a meaningless option.
I heard for years how if more people didn't vote we'd show the politicians and just maybe one day non-voters would outnumber voters and that would lead to more change than voting for the same old same old.
Okay, but it happened and all it did was give Campbell a third majority, no one cares about how many didn't vote, I think I'm the only one that mentions it all the time.
Polakite
2 years ago
I have joy in my heart...
at these last few comments.
Enuf said.
Takuan
2 years ago
smirk while you can your
smirk while you can
your time is coming
mary jane
2 years ago
lie-berals don't care for BC'ers
We are only here to pay the taxes so gordo and gang are only here to such us dry and neglect us for bigger bucks else where
mary jane
2 years ago
ooops
It should say --
We are only here to pay taxes so gordo and gang can suck us dry and neglect us and To attrack bigger bucks for their futures NOT Our future
greengreen
2 years ago
oxymoron
"his heart is definitely in the right place...He comes from a business background." Oxymoron?
It would be more accurate to say, "He has no heart...He comes from a business background."
Is there a way to make money on still-born babies? I'm sure Falcon can find a market.
Groucho
2 years ago
the lesson is...
we have a choice between an unopposed government and a non-entity. Essentially, no matter who we vote for, its the same thing.
crankypants
2 years ago
Question
Has anybody noticed that the spokesmen and presumably head honchos of these private clinics all have an accent which means that they were not born in Canada. My question is, why did they not open up private clinics in the countries they emigrated from? Could it be that they were either not allowed to, or were they encouraged to ply their trade elsewhere?
Fiat lux
2 years ago
According to our American
According to our American friends, their hospitals often demand patients to sign over their houses etc. before giving them the necessary treatments. The biggest cause for personal bankruptcies in the States are medical bills.
And then, we can see the idiots screaming on TV against universal medicare.
The power of brainwash and propaganda. Faith conquers all, especially logical thought.
Ed Deak.
freebear
2 years ago
So much to look forward to!
We need an economic tsunami to shake up things I fear/hope!
zalm
2 years ago
Curt
Thanks for the history of Falcon - much appreciated. How does that square with his upbringing in the British Properties and attending Sentinel High?
Fish-counter
2 years ago
Another Campbell folly.
This is exactly the kind of short-sighted, cheesy idea one would expect from a bankrupt government. There is a limited capacity of hospital beds, so we should raffle them off to the highest bidder?
The liberals have just sold the province's future to the world's most expensive sporting event and now they want to sell our health on the open market?
Sorry to say this over and over, but Gordon Campbell was drunk in Hawaii and he is still drunk today. So are his ministers. There must be a liberal contest to see who can turn up with the dumbest idea of the year. This one gets my vote.
My proposal is that we sell our liberal MLA's to the Soylent Green factory. But who would eat it, knowing it was made with worms?
Kirby
2 years ago
Solution
I have the perfect solution for allowing private health care clinics in BC, they are allowed to practice outside our health care system, and are immediately cut off from all of our systems funding, including buildings, training, operating time in hospitals. I have a feeling without being able to double dip (charge the patient and the system) Doctors wouldn't be so keen on private health care.
Takuan
2 years ago
Ed, you've given me an
Ed, you've given me an idea... There must be some way to start a religion (a TAX-EXEMPT religion) based on getting adequate medical care. A far more moronic version worked for H Ron Cupboard and his crew of idiots and bandits...why not me?