Pharma Reps Meet in Secret, Craft New Drug Approval Process
Campbell government hosted closed meetings.
'Disconcerting': NDP health critic Adrian Dix.
The British Columbia Health Ministry hosted a second closed-door meeting on Friday for "stakeholders" -- mainly representatives of big pharmaceutical companies -- wanting to make changes to the province's drug approval process.
The meeting at the Sheraton Vancouver Wall Centre was on how to implement the recommendations from the province's Pharmaceutical Task Force report, written by a panel stacked with representatives of the drug industry, as the Tyee uncovered a year ago.
The task force's report argued for economic factors to play a bigger role in decision making on what drugs will be available to British Columbians.
Critics feared the panel's recommendations will be used to increase drug industry influence and gut the role of the Therapeutics Initiative, a group of University of British Columbia researchers who provide drug advice to the government, the Tyee reported in May. The TI reviews the best available science on any given drug to decide whether the evidence supports providing it.
"They've taken away the role of the Therapeutics Initiative and they're replacing it with something else," said NDP health critic Adrian Dix. Documents discussed at the meeting show no role for the UBC researchers, he said. "There's no role in this drug review process for an initiative that's internationally acclaimed."
The TI has saved money for the government and the lives of patients, said Dix, and yet the BC Liberals appear to have scrapped it, even though UBC's academic peer review of the TI is not yet available. "It's very, very disconcerting."
UBC's head of orthopedics, Bassam Masri, chaired the review. The other three on the panel were David Henry, the president and CEO of the Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences in Toronto, Dalhousie professor emeritus Jean Gray and McMaster Univeristy professor Lisa Dolovich.
"The review committee met on Oct. 30 and 31, and were expected to have their report ready within a few weeks, though it has not yet been released," said Dix.
The process appeared biased from the outset, he added. "This was designed to get a result. They seem to have made a commitment to get rid of truly independent reviewing."
Decisions still to come
A final decision has yet to be made, said Sean Beardow, a Health Ministry spokesperson. "I would say the government is committed to an evidence-based review process, which is what the Therapeutics Initiative is," he said. "To the best of my knowledge, these are decisions that are still underway."
Certainly the results of a similar closed-door "multilateral stakeholder session" on "the way forward" held on July 17 were unclear.
While Beardow provided a list of companies and groups represented at the November meeting, as well as an agenda, an earlier request for minutes and other information about the July meeting was not filled. Nor has an FOI request for related records been answered yet.
The Tyee, however, obtained copies of various documents related to the July meeting through other sources.
They include an eight-page draft white paper "for discussion purposes" that was distributed at the meeting, an attendance list, draft conflict of interest guidelines and a drug industry response to the meeting.
Ministry's white paper
The white paper makes some nods to the people who want drug companies to have more of a say in decisions. "The Deputy Minister will submit to participate in an annual Stakeholder Accountability Session, with the first session to be scheduled for the fall of 2008," it said. "Additional opportunities for stakeholder participation would also be built into drug review process."
It outlines a way to reconstitute the current Drug Benefit Committee with a new Drug Benefit Council. The council will have "a minimum of two and up to three public members."
It said, "When selecting potential candidates for public membership positions, the Ministry would consider individuals that can best represent the public at large. The intent is to provide a public perspective into the drug review process."
While it might seem odd to put lay people onto a body that should be making decisions based on science and evidence, the government is pressing ahead. On Nov. 24 it put out a press release saying it is seeking three people to sit on the council.
The white paper also said the TI will be disbanded, at least sort of. "A Drug Review Resource Committee would replace the role played by the Therapeutics Initiative," it said.
According to the documents discussed at the November meeting, the DRRC would be a sub-committee of the Drug Benefit Council, and would work with Drug Review Resource Teams to get expert opinions on new drugs.
Politics vs. academics?
There are clues in the July white paper that politics may play more of a role than academics, however, since the paper said "Members of the committee would be appointed by the health minister."
Still, the paper argues the government would be broadening the decision making, rather than debasing it. The new committee would include drug economists and a role would be worked out for UBC so there is no shift from evidence-based decisions, it said.
The paper is silent, however, on whether that means continuing to fund and work with the TI, or if it would mean working with more industry-friendly people on the faculty.
The paper also suggests speeding up the time it takes to make decisions on drug approvals. It now takes between nine and 18 months to approve a new drug, it says. New targets would make nine months the standard, with 12 months allowed for "complex" decisions. For "priority" decisions, the targets would be between seven and 10 months.
A four-page briefing note "to update the Rx&D Regional Team" on the July meeting expressed some displeasure with the progress at that point. "The White Paper does not represent substantial changes over the current Drug Review process," it said. "The timelines for the drug review (9-12 months) offer minimal improvement."
Nor does the white paper cut UBC and the Therapeutics Initiative out of decision making, the briefing note said. "As the White Paper currently stands, the drug review process and the advisory role of the TI will not be substantially changed from the current process."
Pharma industry's 'next steps'
Also, the industry response said, draft conflict of interest guidelines were too strict and were described as "very restrictive and would only allow for TI-type people to advise the Drug Benefit Council."
They would, it said, "effectively preclude the participation of most clinical experts and many members of the public."
Aside from the normal guidelines around financial interests related to decisions the council makes, the draft policy obtained by the Tyee includes this clause: "Personal conflict may arise when a participant or a family member suffer from a condition which could be treated by a drug being considered by the DBC."
A strict reading of the policy would mean someone whose grandmother has arthritis would be considered to be in a conflict if the council were considering approving a new treatment for the disease.
The industry briefing note also looks at who the leaders within the government will be as changes are made. Interestingly neither of the two co-leaders, David Morel nor Dan Doyle, comes from the Health Ministry.
Morel gets the job with an "economics background with recent experience in the Ministry of Forests and Premiers Office." Doyle is a former transport deputy minister and "procurement expert credited for his role in ensuring on-time, on-budget construction of 2010 venues."
Anticipating a final decision on the recommendations by Christmas, the industry note listed "next steps" including "debriefing with" drug industry representatives and doing more research on government decision makers.
The same industry note also raised the possibility of holding "political meetings".
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Panel wants BC's medicine buys to boost 'economic development' as well as health.




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SharingIsGood
3 years ago
more power to Rx for-profits
Disempowering a UBC independent review body behind closed doors doesn't pass the sniff test - it stinks!
When Campbell steps down or gets booted, I want to see a running tally (for 20 years)of all directorships and all off-shore holdings that he and his family amass. Brother Mikey has to be included.
egmont rapids
3 years ago
If it is working,break it!
Seems to me that the Campbell goverment is looking to dredge money from the health system.
Every time Campbell and his cronies "tinker" with something the bill to the tax-payer goes up and service to the people go down.
No doubt these two cronies will be paid hundreds of thousands a year for their expertise!
Lets just look at their background, David(no morals)Morel had a voice in the premiers office and assisted Rich Coleman and Mike DeJong in giving away 117.000 hecters of the peoples land to their forest company(liberal doners)freinds.
And lets not forget about Dan(see no evil)Doyle,one of Kevin Falcon`s henchman, whose acalaids include --"Procurement expert" and a specialist with on time on budget deliveries--Lets take a look at those so-called on time on budget deliveries.
The Canada line-estimated at 1.2 billion,current cost and it is not completed yet 2.5 billion dollars and a decimated cambie small business sector--Sea to Sky highway 3.6 billion dollars to the private contractor, 880 million for construction and 300.000.00 dollars everyday(365 days a year) for 25 years! And it is not completed yet!
Call me suspicious but everything Campbell has touched has been put backwards or has gotten worse!
Seniors care,health care, schools,hospital care,childrens services,disabled services,worksafe BC,the courts,BC hydro,BCUC,corrections,secondary education,autistic,daycare, absolutely everything Gordon Campbell has put his GRUBBY LITTLE HAND ON he has #$%$ed it up!
Hey TYEE/ you guys are getting lots of mentions on CKNW and other MEDIA outfits ----Be prepared for Gordon Campbell to come after you guys with a INDUSTRIAL SIZED ROLL OF DUCT TAPE!
They have already come after my radio voice!
Skywalker
3 years ago
No shame.
Nothing like consulting the fox on ways to improve hen house security.
egmont rapids
3 years ago
Speaking of duct tape
How come BC Mary`s blog is down?
egmont rapids
3 years ago
Here is some background
David(EDITED -- TYEE MODERATOR) Morel --Workrd in the premiers office and the forestry ministry,here is some of the handy work he was involved with--
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html.?id=-eef07c25-64fc-4167-b255-0af9896ea9fa
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html.?id=c54a28e2-9157-4072-9eeb-1fec369cbb8a
And lets not forget some of Dan Doyle`s expertise in "procurement and on time on budget delivery" in his ministry
http://thebernermonologues.blogspot.com/2008/11/open-letter-to-senor-monumento.html
egmont rapids
3 years ago
I will try the links again
David [EDITED FOR PERSONAL INSULTS...AGAIN. -MODERATOR.] Morel--The shit he was up to his eyeballs in--
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=eef07c25-64fc-4167-b255-0af9896ea9fa
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=c54a28e2-9157-4072-9eeb-1fec369cbb8a
egmont rapids
3 years ago
Call me suspicious
Maybe someone should check a certain premiers personal stock portfolio.
Maybe it is just a coincidence,all markets are falling except---
That`s right,everything falling but pharmaceuticals,for some strange reason drug companies are on the rise.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/27949336
egmont rapids
3 years ago
More on drug companies
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96032130
[AND HERE. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS IN THIS FORUM. -MODERATOR.]
Frank
3 years ago
Campbell
Going to be kind of tough for Campbell and his big Pharma friends when Canada's New Government tells them nice try.
I wonder if this means the Romanow report will finally be implemented?
G West
3 years ago
egmont
It's actually not down - but there is a problem with blogger or Google MAPS API if you're using some versions of Internet Explorer.
Try signing on with firefox or opera or another browser; you'll still get the java script message but click past it and all will be revealed. There's a message up there to that effect and work is ongoing to solve the problem, apparently..
Isabella2
3 years ago
Pharma reps meet in secret
British Columbians have reached the stage that, for their own wellbeing, they must put every initiative of the Campbell government under the microscope; especially when it meets in secret.
In the case of secret negotiations between someone like Campbell and Big Pharma, you can bet there's a story we will not like.
Following, is just one example that indicates the baseline thinking of a pharmceutical company: I was diagnosed with gastro-esophageal reflux (GERD). The popular remedy is a well-advertised and expensive medication. To assist my budget, the doctor - who, I should stress, is NOT in the pockets of Big Pharma - had some samples in his cupboard and, for the first few weeks, I benefited from the pills at no cost. I was not cured in the eight weeks 'normal' discussed in the literature, so came a day when the prescription pad had to come out.
It was then that the doctor said he'd be prescribing a different, less expensive drug, one that appears on the provincial list of "approved" drugs.
I demurred, reluctant to change from a medication that was working. "Oh," says the doctor, "it has virtually the same ingredients as the one you've been taking - in fact, it was exactly the same until [Company #1] was running out of its patent protection, added a couple of non-medicinal ingredients, changed the name and re-registered its patent."
The significance of the patent? As long as a drug is protected by patent, and the company advertises the hell out of the new name, the company can protect its way-out-of-line-high costs. Once the patent expires, any company is free to make the same drug, and undercut the price and company revenues.
But I had the last laugh. Reluctant to live on any pill for the rest of my life, I researched nutritional and diet alternatives and have learned to control the symptoms without resorting to either Campbell OR Big Pharma.
Unfortunately, not all medical conditions can be managed likewise. And that means that patients and taxpayers alike - to be blunt - get screwed.
monty
3 years ago
Drugs, drugs: take your pick
It's amazing the number of doctors who hand out packages of drugs to their patients and no prescription is written. Of course, this means the patient does not receive the standard warnings lists which accompany a routine prescription.
Wonder what other rewards these doctors are getting for peddaling this junk?
dave49
3 years ago
More of the usual crap!
More of the usual crap!
Come on Campbell and Co., surprise me in a positive way! Yes, I know about the carbon tax, but I think you saw business advantages in being the first jurisdiction in North America to have a carbon tax.
DPL
3 years ago
Campbell said this would be
Campbell said this would be the most open government, but open to whom? Certainly not the taxpayers. When he took his little trip to europe and the UK to"study" asorted health systems, we the taxpayers didn't get the results. His Health dputy didn't go as she was working her way out the door. Open is a nice word, but in Bc it means somehting else. Abbott is supposed to be the Health Minister and his job is supposed to be to help the folks needing medical services, but all he does is wave his arms around and blame a previous government. Time to get rid of those slugs, and get a government that can show they care about the customers.
greengreen
3 years ago
Curious
Just curious, is this issue getting any coverage in MSM? Any members of TI willing to comment on what has been going on? Has any pharmaceutical company gone out of business? Would Alan Greenspan be aghast if he found out that executives of pharma companies were about as ethical as used car salesmen?
White Knight
3 years ago
Big Pharma described in Sicko
If you want to know what the big pharmaceuticals are doing, rent the Sicko DVD. An interview that didn't make it into the movie describes:
1. tweeking drugs that are about to have their patents expire and calling it "new."
2. new drugs are only measured for effectiveness against a pacebo, not what is already available. So some could be worse than existing drugs.
3. allowing publicly funded researchers personally profit from a new drug in "partnership" with big pharma
trulib
3 years ago
mainstream media
I find it very frustrating to read here about important issues that I know are not being pushed in the mainstream media ie) private power. The message has to get out to middle of the road working people. This (swing vote territory) is where elections are won or lost. The Tyee does good work, however I suspect it is being read almost only by those who have and will always support the NDP.
greengreen
3 years ago
Speaking to the converted
Yes, trulib. And aint it frustrating that a daily like 24 Hours which is 90% fluff, can survive, yet a good tablet with articles like those of Tyee, would not.
Machiatto
3 years ago
This type of thing should
This type of thing should include national federal oversight; and attention, lest we in the future call our little corner of the country: the republic of British Columbia
sicntired
3 years ago
Big Pharma
With the college of P&S making all pain medication almost impossible to attain and the physicians themselves in favor of two tiered health care.It's little surprise that the government backs big pharma over evidence based research.This is government policy.Politicians will always stand at the front of the line and get whatever they want or need.That they don't care about the rest of us should come as a surprise to no one.
fitzpala
3 years ago
Secret Meetings
Can't wait to see your story titled...
Unionized Workers Union Stages Secret Meeting
Tries to find ways to screw taxpayers out of more money while working less
NOTE: "company" can be inserted for "taxpayers" if news item refers to private sector company.
I'll check back next week.
fitzpala
3 years ago
Sicko
white knight: If Sicko is so profound and revolutionary why did Michael Moore go to a private clinic in Florida for treatment rather than Cuba ... or dare I say Canada where health care is soooo much better than in the USA?
It proves the hypocrisy of Michael Moore. "America's health system is a travesty, but I'll use it to my advantage.
He's a fraud.
Stop believing all the propaganda that the is spewed by the socialists. Key word is "all". Find a middle ground and settle there for awhile. Take a good look around and you may see the light.