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Meet the Portable Pole Dancer

Street performing has evolved. Which helps pay for Natalie Dinsdale's graduate studies in biology.

By Christopher Grabowski, 30 Aug 2011, TheTyee.ca

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Dinsmore's act stops sidewalk traffic on Commercial Drive in Vancouver. Photo: Christopher Grabowski.

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Natalie Dinsdale is studying for her masters degree in biological sciences at Simon Fraser University. On some fair afternoons on Vancouver's Commercial Drive she makes money while relaxing her mind and tuning up her body. She is a busker of an extraordinary kind, capable of stopping traffic while she performs on her own portable pole. I took some photographs of her act, and interviewed her on a break. Here is what she had to say:

On how she got the idea for street pole performing:

"I first had the idea in Edmonton -- every now and then when my pole dancing friends and I would be out and about we'd end up pole dancing on a street sign and playing around. Pole dancing has definitely gotten very popular over the years, but in terms of performing, there aren't many places to do it. I love to perform for an audience, so I figured if I couldn't find somewhere to dance [other than a strip club], I might as well just make space for it.

"Moving to Vancouver and being surrounded by so many people that courageously pursue their own creative endeavours while supporting me in my own gave me the little kick I needed to purchase the portable pole. Having my own pole broadened my ability to market myself as a performer in unique venues. For example, this past summer, I pole danced for Shpongle's set at Motion Notion and for Calvertron and Freaky Flow's sets at Astral Harvest."

On how she acquired the skills:

"I grew up taking jazz, tap, and ballet lessons, so dance has been a big part of my life for some time. When I was living in Edmonton, I danced on the Edmonton Rush [professional lacrosse] dance team and through that, met a woman who was teaching pole dancing and sensual fitness at Aradia Fitness. I checked out the studio, connected with the vision of the company and got hired as a pole dancing fitness instructor.

"I taught pole dancing for four years in Edmonton and received all of my training through the company I worked for. When I moved to Vancouver to begin my master's degree, I was missing pole dancing a lot and wanted to get back into it, especially from a performance aspect -- which is really my passion.

"Given that stripping/exotic dancing is the main realm for pole dancing, I figured an outdoor busking act would provide a nice (clothed) alternative that would raise a few eyebrows and inspire authentic sensual expression on the streets of Vancouver."

On motivation:

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"Money was definitely not the prime motive, but extra cash certainly helps. I'm a full time graduate student so I'm funded for school, but not much. Finding new environments in which to bring my favourite style of dance into the public was my main motivation."


On why she performs to classical music on violin:

"When I first met my busking partner Johannes, through a lovely mutual friend of ours, he told me some inspiring and wild stories about a circus troupe he had played violin with in San Francisco. Given our similar sense of humour and interest in pushing the boundaries a bit, I asked him to join my pole dancing busking act as the musical accompaniment.

"At that point, I had the busking license and the pole but nothing else planned, really. We agreed that the violin provides an unexpected grace and sensuality to an art that most people associate with seedy clubs and bad music. We jammed together a few times at my house before we hit the streets and found it easy to inspire each other and build from each other's energy."

On the public's reception:

"Overall, we've been well received. Many women were like, teach me to do that! Young kids were wide-eyed and thought it was pretty cool to see someone hanging upside down. Some people were shy and avoided eye contact. The most inspiring was one middle-aged Asian lady, perhaps Cambodian. She stopped, watched for a long of time, then she knelt in prayer and kissed the ground before dropping a $20 bill in Johannes' violin case."

Public pole dancing

Photo by Christopher Grabowski.

On drawing from other cultures' erotic art traditions:

"I am inspired by the views that other cultures and spiritual paths hold regarding erotic art and sensuality. Despite constant exposure to partial nudity and sexualized media content, Western culture, in my opinion, is rather shy when it comes to celebrating and enjoying honest expressions of sensuality. Given its multicultural diversity, I believe that Vancouver is a great place to be to introduce shifting attitudes concerning the erotic arts. Dancing and sensuality to me are gifts from the Divine, and many other cultures (ie. Tantra, Taoist sexual practices) have recognized that for centuries.

"Though pole dancing on the street may be perceived by many as rather distant from spiritual practice, to myself and perhaps to individuals of other cultural/religious backgrounds (like the woman I mentioned earlier) there is nothing more spiritual than sharing your honest creative expression with the surrounding community."

On whether she has forfeited a future political career because she pole danced in public:

Public pole dancing

Photo by Christopher Grabowski.

"First of all, I think that the political and social landscape in 10 years will be vastly different from where it is now. I think that a great leader is someone who is courageous enough to deviate from accepted boundaries while not taking herself too seriously. And who knows, a political platform asserting healthy and authentic sensual expression could be very popular by the time I'm ready to try out a new career."

On being a role model:

"Many women really appreciate how the artistic, creative and sensual side of pole dancing mixes so well with fitness. After all, that is how I got into pole dancing myself. When women see other women being playful with something like dancing that brings joy in addition to health benefits, I think they get a little curious and wonder, 'Could I do that?' One of my goals through my dancing is to transform that wondering into a belief that 'Yes, I could certainly do that!'"

On being asked on a date:

"A lot of people assume that I get a lot of male attention from my performances, but I haven't had any serious propositions yet."  [Tyee]

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  • RickW

    38 weeks ago

    Combining Art & Commerce.....

    .....makes for a stable society. More people should be encouraged.

    "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
    - Lao-Tzu

  • OwlRol

    38 weeks ago

    Good on ya

    I'm sure that Harpo and his conservative cronies would be afraid to even look (maybe sneak a peak between the fingers covering their eyes) as they would be ostracized by their partners and colleagues. Pass a law banning such lascivious public behaviour. Muslim fundamentalists would support him on this one. Think of the kids.

    Nudism was never about sexuality, rather a quasi spiritual connection with the surrounding environment, including mosquito bites in odd places. But it has to be practiced in private.

    The valley gal who went topless on her errands, the "slut walk" and this portable pole dance are all behaviours by women who want the freedom behave in activities that are essentially non-sexual, although some males may disagree and as the more prurient conservatives would have us believe.

    So how will society change over the next 10 to 20 years? Should be interesting.

    Of course, if Harpo's "desire" to change Canada into a more conservative nation, some big fights will be brewing.

  • OhCanada

    38 weeks ago

    In North America ...

    ... where women still earn 20% less in the same job as their male counterparts, (http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217/womens-earnings-and-income)
    I find pole 'dancing' just simply demeaning and slutty.

    There are many other ways for a young woman to earn money. Pole 'dancing' in my opinion does not belong to the street nr do I find this a reputable and respectable kind of 'art'.

    RickW - Combining Art & Commerce makes for a stable society - only if that combination comes with common sense and taste. A woman in an underwear rubbing herself around a pole is not what most people would fine tasteful.

    Lots of women jumped on the pole-wagon to 'express their feminine side'. Gee, if anyone need a pole to express her feminity - I think there is a much deeper problem then.

    Everyone knows where pole dancing came from and I don't think it will ever belong to anywhere else but where it originally came from. It isn't much different from standing on the corner selling yourself.

  • OhCanada

    38 weeks ago

    OwlRol

    It isn't about being conservative or not. It is about being tasteful and remembering that the street is a public place and should be respected as such.
    What is next? Having sex on the street like animals?

    There is such thing as being tasteful and being respectful of sharing the space with others.

    Freedom doesn't come from walking half naked on the street. Freedom comes from treated as equals, regardless of skin colour and gender.

  • RickW

    38 weeks ago

    OhCanada

    Quote:
    Freedom comes from treated as equals, regardless of skin colour and gender

    Agreed. But have you tried pole dancing? It's a workout and a half! And it doesn't much matter what it's origins were.

    Would you (for instance) ban "So you think you can dance Canada"? Have you seen the costumes worn by the participants?

    As for "treated as equals", we are not there yet as a society. But then we are also homophobic and xenophobic in varying degrees.....

  • RudyRuby

    38 weeks ago

    How does the pole stay up?

    This looks like magic -- and to someone who said "we all know where pole dancing came from" I say -- Yep -- gymnastics and modern dance. I want to see this in the next Olympics. How does she perform without getting skin burns? What astonishing athleticism and grace!

  • Fish-counter

    38 weeks ago

    "I haven't had any serious propositions yet."

    So what is Natalie's home phone number?

    Actually, this story reminds me of an article in the Calgary Herald a few years ago, about a woman, a single parent, who started her own business offering phone sex. The article celebrated the positive aspects of a home-run business but it never mentioned the downsides, like what happened if the kids picked up the b usiness line, for example.

    Pole-dancing is definitely on the edge; just short of strip-tease or sex-for-hire. Talk as long as you like about art and culture, it is just asking for trouble.

    It may appeal to some, and it is guaranteed to offend others as being slutty and provocative. Take your pick. Some people found the movie "A Clockwork Orange" to be intellectually stimulating; others used Little Alex as a model for their own behaviour. Horrorshow!

  • igbymac

    38 weeks ago

    Seriously ...

    this article needs far more pictures.

  • Okanagan Orchardist

    38 weeks ago

    Just don't..

    Whatever you do, don't join the fad for permanent tattoos amongst the ladies. I have no problem with pole-dancing with decorum, but you would look like a carnival freak (or a lady of the streets) if you ruined it with a tatooed body.

  • OhCanada

    38 weeks ago

    RudyRuby

    While pole dancing takes elements from gymnastics and acrobatics - it does not originate from gymnastics.

    I have no problem with pole dancing as an exercise but there is difference in pole dancing one sees in a circus act - like Cirque Du Soleil. That is art and it is performed in the right atmosphere with style and taste. A woman wrapping herself around a pole on the street is nothing more but slutty and tastelessly inappropriate.

  • RickW

    38 weeks ago

    Fish-counter

    Quote:
    It may appeal to some, and it is guaranteed to offend others as being slutty and provocative

    http://www.olinda.com/ArtAndIdeas/lectures/ArtWeDontLike/entarteteKunst.htm
    "Our patience with all those who have not been able to fall in line is at an end. ... What you are seeing here are the crippled products of madness, impertinence, and lack of talent. ... I would need several freight trains to clear our galleries of this rubbish.
    ...This will happen soon"

    Adolf Ziegler,1937
    President of the Reich Culture Chamber

  • Fish-counter

    38 weeks ago

    Hi there, Rick W:

    Thanks for comparing me to a Nazi for saying that some people would find pole dancing offensive. I think Ziegler was talking about paintings. The Nazis din't like jazz music much either and I sympathise with that viewpoint. It doesn't make me a Nazi because I don't like most jazz music. I can't stand klezma or accordions either, and in my dreams I see an accordion being obliterated by machine gun bullets, but that isn't genocide.

    I would dearly love to, meet Natalie in person and would love to watch her perform, but it might be a bit much if it were unexpected on the street, on the way to Sunday school.

    Also, I wonder if this is really news. BC is on the cusp of signing a new 20-year contract weith the RCMP. I think that needs serious reconsideration, given the number of dead bodies and assault victims they have left behind in the last five years. Indeed, the acronym RCMP stands more for Royal Canadian Murdering Police in my mind.

    There are still no charges in the Stanley Cup Riot, and that makes me think of the RCMP as the Keystone Cops. It would befunny if it were not so deadly serious. I wonder how many of those rioters were the kids of RCMP officers.

    The words incompetent, aggressive, corrupt and downright dangerous come to mind when I think of our cops today. That needs to be discussed here, not the lovely Natalie's pole-dancing. She does have a lovely body though...

  • OwlRol

    38 weeks ago

    Distasteful and degenerate, to who?

    Good one RickW, love that Entartete Kunst (Degenerate Art). The movie "Cabaret" touched on the edges of this one. Of course the more prurient will say that this is different from that most evil form of puritanism.

    "Tasteful" is surely culturally based and bound up in time. One hundred years ago, Cirque Du Soleil would have been considered both distasteful and immoral, as it still is in certain fundamentalist cultures, both in N. America and elsewhere.

    "Freedom doesn't come from walking half naked on the street." You are correct. Freedom comes from having the choice to do so if one wishes.

    As I recall, we had a time when showing a woman's ankles or back was considered "half naked".

    Bodily exposure, especially female, (although those European men's Speedos, found at many tropical resorts, could be considered distasteful, if not worn by "hunks", by many North Americans), this could be placed along a line, from naturally permissive to fully controlled.

    From equatorial and tropical indigenous cultures to Brazilian and French Riviera beach culture to that wannabe western fashion culture to prudent Christian culture, to Hutterite styles to fundamentalist Burka styles, each of these can be made "tasteful" to their own, and view others as odd, distasteful or worst, unacceptable.

    Love that slippery slope, "What is next? Having sex on the street like animals?" Although we actually are animals, this isn't really about sex as much as it is about power.

  • RudyRuby

    38 weeks ago

    To whom it may concern

    I see that some people want to enforce the idea that pole dancing is slutty. I don't go the strip bars -- so I haven't seen it there. I have seen lots of gymnastics, especially competitions on TV. Pole dancing looks like gymnastics to me. I reject the idea that pole dancing must be slutty just because some people have seen it in strip bars and therefore make that association and think everyone else should too. I don't make that association. It looks no more slutty to me than what those men and women do in Olympic gymnastics. It seems mean-spirited to call it slutty.

  • OwlRol

    38 weeks ago

    Sexuality, like power, is cultural

    But even sexuality is culturally based. Love that "public" Hindu temple with statues and stone carvings of couples in various sexual positions, that horrified the European Christian "missionary"/explorers. They couldn't reduce that temple to rubble the way the Taliban did to those Buddhist statues in afghanistan, or they would have quickly lost their trade commerce and likely their lives. The temple stands today and the birth rate there was no different than the puritan west until condoms and birth control came into common usage.

    Too many people confuse exposure with sexuality, especially given that clothing can often be more suggestive than nudity. Sexuality is there if that's what one is looking for, no matter what is worn.

    In "The Prophet" chapter on clothes, Kahlil Gibran writes "Your clothes conceal much of your beauty, yet they hide not the unbeautiful.

    And though you seek in garments the freedom of privacy you may find in them a harness and a chain.

    Would that you could meet the sun and the wind with more of your skin and less of your raiment,

    For the breath of life is in the sunlight and the hand of life is in the wind." and

    "Forget not that modesty is for a shield against the eye of the unclean.

    And when the unclean shall be no more, what were modesty but a fetter and a fouling of the mind?

    And forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair."

    Getting back to that very good question, how does that pole support anyone's gravitational mass and movements that causes considerable centrifugal forces? How is it anchored not to tip?

  • RickW

    38 weeks ago

    Fish-counter

    My apologies if that's the impression my post created. I only meant to show that this pony has been around the ring many times before.

  • RickW

    38 weeks ago

    Fish-counter

    Quote:
    BC is on the cusp of signing a new 20-year contract weith the RCMP

    Not if Mike Webster has his way:
    http://www.straight.com/article-436586/vancouver/mike-webster-wants-top-rcmp-job

  • RickW

    38 weeks ago

    OwlRol

    Quote:
    Too many people confuse exposure with sexuality, especially given that clothing can often be more suggestive than nudity

    I read sometime back where it's been suggested that the first clothing wasn't worn for warmth or protection, or for modesty's sake, but was worn to emphasize attractiveness - somewhat like the peacock......

  • OwlRol

    38 weeks ago

    Off topic, Tatoos and piercings

    Okanagan O., many cultures have admired and promoted, (western sea men included) tattoos and piercings for many centuries.

    Western women being tattooed is a newer phenomenon, as is the recent fashion fad of filing a gap between the two top front teeth. Appearance is a fickle endeavour among wannabes and keeps the money flowing in that industry.

    My take is different. Our skin is a remarkable organ that does a great job at protecting our internal parts from environmental nasties.

    We have seven natural and necessary gaps in our body skin's barriers, nine if you consider breast feeding, each of which give us problems at some point during our lifetimes. So be it, we need them, but...

    Why would anyone add to those gaps, be it frequent addict injections, ear, tongue and other piercings or the tattoo needle, other than some sort of vanity or obligation.

    Perhaps the latest, more subtle but equally dangerous, commercial trend is the use of nano technology in various cosmetic products to "absorb"/penetrate through the skin with a variety of questionable, long term chemical effects, these not being labelled on the product container, supposedly for "proprietary" reasons.

    Looks great, feels like s***. So great to get home and take off, oh oh, it won't come off, now what to do?

  • Fish-counter

    38 weeks ago

    Rick W:

    No worries. This pole-dancing thing; I would like to see it in Nanaimo. We need a bit of light entrtainment here and Natalie could be it. I only wish I could do it.

  • Bruno96

    38 weeks ago

    Rick W

    I would love to see how much money annually the RCMP has to pay out in civil actions against.
    If it EVER comes out, watch an uproar.

    P.S.- The B.C. Government is NUTS if they renew with these clowns again.

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