NDP Corners Coroner's Defenders

James accuses Campbell, Les of 'misleading' the public.

By David Beers, 23 Nov 2006, TheTyee.ca

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It was supposed to be a fast, final dash to close out the child death reviews scandal. MLAs would stream into Victoria and affirm the appointment of a new children's representative in time to catch the late ferries. Well, they'd better find couches to sleep on.

Vowing to keep the leg going through Monday, NDP Leader Carole James tabled FOI documents and levelled the new accusation that Premier Gordon Campbell and Solicitor General John Les knew otherwise when they claimed the B.C. Coroners Service was well suited to review child deaths. That job had been handled by the B.C. Children's Commission before the Libs shut it down in 2002 to save money.

Campbell and Les have admitted to organizational fumbling. But not to fibbing.

"I want to be very clear," James declared. "These documents explicitly show the premier and the solicitor general knew that what they were telling the public was not the truth."

Reports the CBC: James cites a document from the coroners service written in September 2005 that says as many as 40 per cent of all child deaths may not be reported to the coroner. The document adds that necessary reviews may not be conducted because the coroner doesn't have the legislative authority to review all child deaths.

If so, the coroners service hadn't been quick to let on, either. In January of 2005, when toddler Cody Fontaine was mauled to death in his home, Tyee reporter Judith Ince wrote that the coroner lacked the investigative mandate of the defunct children's commissioner.

Assistant Deputy Coroner Lisa Lapointe fired back a letter with this blanket assurance: "The B.C. Coroners Service is committed to ensuring all children's deaths in the province are thoroughly and independently reviewed."

In November of 2005, a group of whistle-blowing forensic experts sent a letter to Les making a detailed case that the coroner's service was mismanaged and risked losing credibility. As reported in The Tyee, Les wholly dismissed their concerns.

About the same time, the coroners service was revealed to have piled up over 700 incomplete reviews of child deaths in B.C.

And just last month, B.C. Child and Youth Officer Jane Morley's report blamed dawdling by the coroners service in part for why Sherry Charlie's toddler brother remained in the care of his uncle months after ministry officials had reason to suspect the uncle was Sherry's killer.

Quite a slippery track record for the coroners service and its elected, high ranking defenders. Carole James and the NDP intend to muddy it some more. And clearly, they're in no hurry to finish up.  [Tyee]

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  • Grumpy

    5 years ago

    Comments on "NDP Corners Coroner's Defenders"

    So what else is new, the entire Liberal government are a collection of flim-flam artists, carpet baggers, Bre-X salesmen, and Quislings. They all should be in jaol!

  • obvious

    5 years ago

    To be honest Grumpy, it doesn't matter who's in power, BC politicians of all persuasions are a bunch of lying pond scum.
    The BC Libs don't have a monopoly on lying to their constituents. They're just a little less careful about it.

  • G West

    5 years ago

    Now if the opposition continues to question the other lies, corruption and conversion of the people's assets since Campbell became our 'Dear Leader', we may find the Legislature is still in session when the premier gets back from promising our offshore oil to investors in Hong Kong.

    You think?

    I'll believe we have a real opposition and not a one trick pony when that happens - until then I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that some of the bought and paid-for press wakes up to what's actually going on here.

    Any time that Wally Oppal gets more TV coverage by pandering to the BC Lions than the 'business' of the peoples' government does, we are in a lot of trouble.

    My view.

  • lynn

    5 years ago

    Quote:
    What can we do? Cambell and Harper have sold us out to the 'mericuns, eh! We are nothing more than a client state to the USA and their corporations. Grumpy from "pipelines expand thread"

    No argument there, Grumpy. You are right on.

    So now both the people and the Opposition (who must become as G West suggests "more than a one trick pony")...now both they and we must say it OUT LOUD...bring to light "who exactly" sold out BC and the control of this province from the hands of the people.

    As G West again aptly notes:

    Quote:
    Now if the opposition continues to question the other lies, corruption and conversion of the people's assets since Campbell became our 'Dear Leader', we may find the Legislature is still in session when the premier gets back from promising our offshore oil to investors in Hong Kong.

    It is the "the other lies, corruption and conversion of the people's assets since Campbell became our 'Dear Leader" that must be addressed above all else. In the end that is the real test of both the true character and worthiness of the opposition...and of the people of this province themselves.

  • alive

    5 years ago

    Campbell became our 'Dear Leader"
    Dear, as in expensive.....eh?
    Too dear for my pocketbook in any event!

  • Working Man

    5 years ago

    Quote:
    , BC politicians of all persuasions are a bunch of lying pond scum.

    Gotta agree with you there. No doubt Carole will shake things up with her wet noodle before she spirits off to Hawaii. Make that Cuba.

  • G West

    5 years ago

    Sad working man, you've now descended to the level of Ron Erwin.

  • lynn

    5 years ago

    And as Peter Dimitrov often astutely notes:

    It is "we the people who are the opposition, and the proposition ...I believe it is we, individually and collectively that must do something."

  • Moosebeer

    5 years ago

    Gordon Campbell must be trying to find a way where his party will never have to go to the Legislature and face the opposition again. Why should any of his decisions be questioned? He should have complete and absolute power. Hail to the Chief. Down with Legislature sittings, cancel them all.

  • DPL

    5 years ago

    I loved Mike Smythe's article in The Province today Friday 24th. V.Palmer was very good as well. The idea of give em a tax cut and they will love us is pretty limp.

    To have an association ask for regulations on these home inspectors is a pretty good idea. Just ask the folks who ended up buying a leaky Condo or needed a Mike Holmes programs to fix the messes left behind by some shady contractors.with homes hitting the stratosphere the prospective owner needs some professional advise. Not somebody who has to borrow a flashlight and ladder and work out of a small car. So what did the solisitor General have to say? well go read Hansard or Palmer

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    DPL
    Why are you trying to change this blog?
    This has got to be the biggest cover-up and total corruption of US/OUR the hard working, law abiding Citizens of OUR British Columbia in history!
    We The People Have to Get Off Our Butts and take the next step, as WE Have tried the so called legal way?
    All working people should shut this OUR British Columbia down till all this Cancer is gone!
    A Very Concerned Senior

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    I should have said all Citizens of BC as WE are all victims of this Dirty Scandal!

  • DPL

    5 years ago

    Hi there. What's this about me trying to change this story? I am simply mentioning articles written by others.

    Many folks believe this bunch are corrupt. When a column is written showing the hypocrisy of the guys in power, I figure it's noteworthy. Sorry if you think only the writers here know anything about what is going on in the house. Both articles were about the goings on by the government. I didn't write them.
    We have the opportunity to vote the government out. The idea of a general strike or similar thing would suit them right to the T.

    A elected government is in place. If some group tried to throw them out, they would get a massive majority as soon as the event petered out. Just ask Bennett Junior and the leaders of Solidarity of a number of years ago. I don't like it and you don't either. A lot of folks do like it. That's why they are government. I do believe the two columnists I mentioned have a bigger audience than this on line paper. I too am a concerned senior, not that it has anything to do with the deals being sprung on us. Would it suit you if somebody showed articles from the Globe and Mail or the National Post?

  • Machiatto

    5 years ago

    I strictly remember Gordon Campbell practically running to the public through the channels of the mainstream media advocating for own his high sense of responsibility to answer to these charges of abysmal and neglible neglect of children.

    Did he mean real responsibility or some type of moral culpability?

    Pardon me for thinking aloud

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    DPL

    Quote:
    We have the opportunity to vote the government out. The idea of a general strike or similar thing would suit them right to the T

    I don't understand what you mean by your quote?
    The last time that a general strike came close to being was during the 1983 Kelowna Accord that Bill Bennett (another alcoholic MADD)and the head of the IWA Jack Monroe who sold the people of BC out!
    Have a read here
    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/westview/story/3758460p-4345834c.html#top
    Where was/is the CanWest coverage?

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    BC liberal scandals
    BC Rail the biggest scandal to ever hit British Columbians
    BC ALReserve
    BC Fish Farms
    BC Children's and family
    BC Health, Faults Creek Private user pay
    BC Housing no new affordable housing, the tragic amount of homeless people in BC
    BC Hydro sellout
    BC Mining how much dirty mining is going on BC?
    BC 2010 Winter Olympics major cover-up of real costs to taxpayers.
    Why do we have to get news from Winnipeg for some real investigative reporting about BC’s scandalous liberals?
    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/westview/story/3758460p-4345834c.html#top

  • DPL

    5 years ago

    HI BC Dude I too was part of the solidarity event. As federal employees we were due to go out the next day and since we had a collective agreement, we would be fired and were warned. Our collectives do not have the clause the BC workers have. Stoppage for political protest. We did however show up in large numbers at the stadium and a walk around town. George Hewison ran the Solidarity Coallition and we were following George, and Kube and the rest of the folks. Jack Munroe didn't just decide to go visit Bennett on his own, he was under direction to do so.

    There was no general strike. If we had one, as I mentioned we would have been overthrowing a democratically elected government. We would not have won, the government would. Ask any Labour leader and you would get the same answer. so our option is as one old miners grave stone said' Don't mourn for me, organize) Lots of folks talk big about strikes and some don't bother to vote. This present government has chopped a lot of things. They did so because the Opposition was a total of two people.

    Supporters of the left voted for the right to get even with somebody and got it in the neck. Many came back last time around, but not enough to take over. Hopefully they will have leaned but I'm not too sure. Their polling numbers are pretty good. The house is sitting right now, did you see thousands of people outside protesting? No I'm against the same things you are against. But general strike? sounds great but its not that great. Are you prepared to work for the opposition flat out to have then become the government?

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    DPL I don't understand how you mean Gordon Campbell's liberals were democratically elected?
    1) It seems to me that CanWest was a big sponsor of Campbell's liberals with a 48 thousand dollar contribution to BC liberals/Gordon Campbell!
    2) CanWest for all intents and purposes was putting out big spreads for the BC Green party for the first time ever WHY?
    To split the NDP vote, and it bloody well worked.
    3) CanWest has a monopoly on all media in Western Canada and especially in BC, and this is not True Democracy as they are very pro Gordo liberal
    Where is the CRTC?
    Aren't they the Media watchdog for the people?
    Media conglomerates like CanWest have kept British Colombians in the dark about Gordon Campbell and all of his dirty tricks and backroom deals. WE are being screwed period.
    The 2003 Legislature Scandal nothing?
    CNR deaths in the Derailment last summer and subsequent derailments since?

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    BC Ferries sinking and how many more?
    What happened to Queen of the North Log Book?

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    DPL
    I the don't understand how you mean Gordon Campbell's liberals were democratically elected?
    1) It seems to me that CanWest was a big sponsor of Campbell's liberals with a 48 thousand dollar contribution to BC liberals/Gordon Campbell!
    2) CanWest for all intents and purposes was putting out big spreads for the BC Green party for the first time ever WHY?
    To split the NDP vote, and it bloody well worked.
    3) CanWest has a monopoly on all media in Western Canada and especially in BC, and this is not True Democracy as they are very pro Gordo liberal
    Where is the CRTC?
    Aren't they the Media watchdog for the people?
    Media conglomerates like CanWest have kept British Colombians in the dark about Gordon Campbell and all of his dirty tricks and backroom deals. WE are being screwed period.
    The 2003 Legislature Scandal nothing?
    CNR deaths in the Derailment and subsequent derailments since?

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    is anyone else having probs with uploading blogs?

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    it doubled up my blog again?

  • DPL

    5 years ago

    If we like it or not. The present government was democratically elected. Simple. They got more seats. We got them as our government.
    The media seems to like the people right of center. So how do we handle that? Give us some ideas. Do we stop reading the newspapers, watch US TV or simply not bother to be politically active or even vote. The Legislature raid so far has found a cop out of a job, and faily soon the Basi Basi and verk trial will get underway. Neither of us voted to sell the railway or a bunch of other things. If you get more seats you run things. they have more seats so can do things like change the rules.

  • BC Dude

    5 years ago

    Boy DPL you sure give up easily the so-called newspaper you're talking about CanWest backed the Campbell liberals in 2001 and 2005
    The BC Legislature Raids in 2003 since Then Nothing but a Big Cover-up by the Big Media CanWest Global TV and Nothing

    Quote:
    BC Mary
    posted: 2 Hours Ago in Tyee Homeless blog
    Did anyone see on the Legislature channel where the Opposition kept the B.C. Legislature in session most of Monday night?

    Did anyone see any report of it in the CanWest newspapers today (Tuesday)?

    What kind of media do we have, anyway, where people need to ask this kind of question?!!

    Isn't there an official who listens to complaints if you buy a bag of 50 jellybeans then when you open up the bag you find only 23 jellybeans?

    Or if you pay $1 for a newspaper with all the B.C. news and you open it up and find only things about somebody's new hair colour or discussions of the monarchy but nothing about an all-night session of the BC legislature?

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