BC Gov't 'Spin Machine' Costs Us
How much? Seven times the budget for filling FOIs.
Ten years ago, provincial Liberal leader Gordon Campbell told those attending a party fundraiser he would run "the most open and accountable government in Canada."
He repeated that pledge in his 2001 election platform. And, after winning a landslide victory, Campbell told reporters, "We intend to open up our legislative institutions and we intend to be the most open and accountable government in the country."
But, eight years later the Liberals haven't quite managed put their money where their mouth was.
More for servicing FOIs...
According to rough estimates provided by the Ministry of Labour and Citizens' Services, the Campbell administration spent $3.3 million on freedom of information operating expenses during its first full fiscal year in office.
That spending is forecasted to have increased by 60.6 per cent in 2008/09 to $5.3 million.
But that's not much money when compared with the amount of funding allocated to the Campbell administration's public affairs bureau -- the office that British Columbia Freedom of Information and Privacy Association executive director Darrel Evans calls the government's "spin machine."
Budget documents show the bureau's operating expenses have increased by 30.7 per cent between 2002/03 and 2008/09 -- from $28.2 million to $36.9 million.
Which means, for every dollar spent on freedom of information in 2008/09, the government is forecasted to have spent $6.98 on the bureau.
Moreover, the number of employees working in public affairs significantly outnumbers those responsible for processing freedom of information requests -- 216 full-time equivalencies to 90 in this past fiscal year.
'Breaking the law daily'
In fairness, that's still 47.5 per cent more freedom of information employees then there were in 2002/03.
But that doesn't comfort Evans, "The Liberals were aware under [NDP Premier Glen Clark] that the system was underfunded. And they said they would ensure the resources are available so that all provincial government bodies are able to meet or beat statutory disclosure timetables."
Today, though, "the system has about a third of the funding it should have to function and meet statutory deadlines. That means they've placed their own government in the position of breaking the law daily."
Indeed, according to Information and Privacy Commissioner David Loukidelis, just 71 per cent of freedom of information requests were processed on time in 2008. And that rate decreased to 49 per cent for requests filed by the media.
"It's a culture of dysfunction and cynicism," said Evans. "Look at the vast sums of money the government spends on putting its spin on information and giving the public the information they want them to have in order to control the public opinion environment out there. This is what they're spending on giving out the information they want the public to get. What are they spending on what the public wants to get?"
The Liberals have yet to respond to a request comment placed yesterday.
Total government ministry freedom of information operating expenses (estimate)
Fiscal 2001/02 - $2,200,000.00
Fiscal 2002/03 - $3,300,000.00
Fiscal 2003/04 - $2,900,000.00
Fiscal 2004/05 - $2,700,000.00
Fiscal 2005/06 - $4,400,000.00
Fiscal 2006/07 - $4,600,000.00
Fiscal 2007/08 - $5,200,000.00
Fiscal 2008/09 - $5,300,000.00
Public affairs bureau operating expenses
Fiscal 2001/02 - $34,523,000.00
Fiscal 2002/03 - $28,298,000.00
Fiscal 2003/04 - $39,486,000.00
Fiscal 2004/05 - $32,531,000.00
Fiscal 2005/06 - $24,924,000.00
Fiscal 2006/07 - $29,451,000.00
Fiscal 2007/08 - $35,837,000.00
Fiscal 2008/09 - $36,994,000.00 (forecast)
Office of the information and privacy commissioner operating expenses
Fiscal 2001/02 -- $2,228,291.00
Fiscal 2002/03 - $2,029,139.00
Fiscal 2003/04 - $2,027,466.00
Fiscal 2004/05 - $2,027,466.00
Fiscal 2005/06 - $2,174,787.00
Fiscal 2006/07 - $2,157,267.00
Fiscal 2007/08 - $2,314,703.00
Fiscal 2008/09 - $2,929,643.00
Full-time equivalencies responsible for processing freedom of information requests
Fiscal 2001/02 - 61
Fiscal 2002/03 - 61
Fiscal 2003/04 - 58
Fiscal 2004/05 - 54
Fiscal 2005/06 - 77
Fiscal 2006/07 - 81
Fiscal 2007/08 - 89
Fiscal 2008/09 - 90
Full-time equivalencies responsible for public affairs and media relations
Fiscal 2002/03 - 241
Fiscal 2002/03 - 235
Fiscal 2003/04 - 180
Fiscal 2004/05 - 182
Fiscal 2005/06 - 197
Fiscal 2006/09 - 207
Fiscal 2007/08 - 214
Fiscal 2008/09 -- 216 (forecast) ![]()




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Stump
2 years ago
small error
More great reporting from Mr. Holman. Couldn't help but notice a small error in one of the sentences he wrote however. I think:
"But, eight years later the Liberals haven't quite managed put their money where their mouth was."
should read:
But, eight years later the Liberals haven't quite managed put OUR money where their mouth was.
SharingIsGood
2 years ago
more FOI personnel
Thanks for bringing this forward, Sean.
I hope you didn't have to make an FOI request for any of the info found above.
Oh yeah, silly me, you are a TYEE reporter and you got the info, so that must mean that you didn't have to make a request for it.
It is my understandig that many of the documents, when they finally arrive are heavily censored. All of that black ink takes a good deal of time. It would take far less if the FOI personnel would just look up the documents and hand over a copy. After all, the documents requested are publicly owned. Further, the government would not get so many requests if they weren't so bloody secretive.
Regarding the government's spending money on FOI requests, how much more revenue have they been taking in. It is my understanding that with what they charge for information, they may even be making money in this government agency.
morechatter
2 years ago
Batman shares his wisdom
It is not a crime to demand honest wage for honest work.
-- Batman
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Golden_Streets_of_Gotham
Did you know that there is a shortage of skilled labor as mush as 56% complain of shortage?
And small business loses when a employee is eating or living properly as they do not perform as well and business suffers. In fact everyone suffers in the community when people who live their can't afford to survive. Wouldn't it be better if they had some money to also put into the economy? Anyways the Feds should be helping out especially since new job creation is what has showed positive signs of growth. Well what about BC its not a healthy climate for business with high costs and low wages and high taxes?
The only one who has be raking it in is big corporations and they are the ones getting all the breaks as unprecedented tax breaks for jobs they didn't create
It makes perfect sense since small business is responsible for much of the new job creation why doesn't government assist small business with the $450 million if $4000 dollars can do them in for the year sounds like big trouble for BC small business? Oh yes the Liberals don't care about small business as Cambie merchants left to the road side along with everyone else who is small.
didnotinhale
2 years ago
what about the previous years
To get perspective, I would like to know the spending prior to 2001/2002.
mcdull
2 years ago
Remember to Sell BC
Sell BC Vote Liberal
Isabella2
2 years ago
BC gov't spin machine...
Public affairs bureau operating expenses
Fiscal 2001/02 - $34,523,000.00
Fiscal 2002/03 - $28,298,000.00
Fiscal 2003/04 - $39,486,000.00
Fiscal 2004/05 - $32,531,000.00
Fiscal 2005/06 - $24,924,000.00
Fiscal 2006/07 - $29,451,000.00
Fiscal 2007/08 - $35,837,000.00
Fiscal 2008/09 - $36,994,000.00 (forecast)
Great piece, Sean.
Now, how much of that went directly into Gordo's P3 accounts, that is to Preferred Patronage Persons who can be counted on to regurgitate Liberal-speak? Then we can compare that total with, for example, the amount allocated to implementation of Ted Hughes' and Mary Ellen Turpel-Lafond's recommendations. Or to services for autistic kids. Despite the evidence, people still can be heard saying, "OOOOh, I couldn't vote NDP, they scaaare me." Well, what really scares me is a man and a party that say one thing, do another (there's a word for that, isn't there?) and give away BC assets while they're at it.
RossK
2 years ago
And How Many Full Time Park Rangers Do We Have Again?
200?
Nope
100?
Nope
50?
Nope
20?
Nope
10?
Bingo
(but, then again, unlike the fine folks in the PAB brigade, Park Rangers actually do stuff to HELP British Columbians, so.....)
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WHAT
2 years ago
DID PAB even exist prior to 2001
If you google Hilter's administration you may also find the same type of organizations being utilized, how about George W. Bush's administration and use of the Press.
The truth doesn't need someone holding it's hand, it should be coming directly from the horses mouth...directly... The Times Colonist and Vancouver Sun appear to be losing staff to some other media entity....
Think about this for a minute....we elect and they lie...more checks and balances needed, more voter based independent, locally elected, oversight committee members, based on subject matter knowledge. These oversight committee's need to have the final trump card, and the ability to call for referendum's when needed......no more giving the full reins to anyone...self-interest and greed get in the way, the root of all evils...
gamedev
2 years ago
What
I believe the PAB did exist under the NDP, or was even created by it, but it has gotten huge and the intent was to inform the public about important things, like health care etc. It has been suberted to being the bloated spin machine it is under Gordon Campbell and the BC Liberals.
The existence of the PAB prior to Gordon Campbell's election will be pointed to as "justification" for the way it is used now. That, of course, is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Our environment ministry is now a privatization rubber stamp, but that doesn't mean that the ministry of the environment didn't do important, and useful, work in the past, it just means that Gordon Campbell and the BC Liberals have subverted it for their own selfish desires.
MaureenYost
2 years ago
This is another Dirty Tricks Affair
Remember the Dirty Tricks Affair that brought down and helped destroy the Social Credit Party of BC? They were writing letters to the editors of the newspapers under false names. Back then identities were supposed to be checked and only if you were a real person was your letter printed. Now we have 35 mil spent on fake comments, call ins on radio shows and letters to editors. The PAB scandal is far worse than the DTA, yet the mainstream media doesn't say a word. They should be using software to bar the PAB domain from creating an account and posting on their websites. That won't happen of course with CanWest being one of BCLiberals biggest backers.
ChrisB
2 years ago
The Reality of an FOI Inquiry
The B.C. government's deplorable record on the FOI process has been the subject of many articles in the media, including here on the Tyee.
There's the Freedom of Information Association and the Campaign for Open Government, both with web sites. I'm looking for some help with a case that I filed in December 2007 and that the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner is finally subjecting to a formal inquiry.
I've spoken to FIPA's Darrell Evans and yesterday forwarded to him the email (with seven attachments) sent to me on May 4 by the respondent Attorney General. They also couriered their package to me - a submission with lengthy argument, two affidavits and other materials - denying my requested access on the basis of Section 14 of the act - solicitor client privilege.
The OIPC itself had repeatedly declined until now to settle the crucial question of who is the client. Now the argument says it is "Her Majesty the Queen in Right of the Province of British Columbia". It also acknowledges that solicitor client privilege can be waived by the client. At the end of the argument they slip in the line "the client had not waived privilege". While it may be a fruitless avenue for me to pursue, I'd like to know how I can request such a waiver. To which government office or person would I send the request? If the answer is that there is no such office or person, it would seem to me that the claim of privilege is absurd.
My own position is that the documents I am seeking were created exclusively in the service of the Legislature. I am seeking an extension on the very short timelimit for me to file my reply.
I cannot overstate the value to me of commencing this process and sticking with it for so long. I have learned a great deal. I have not been favourably impressed with the conduct of the OIPC to date. The media's coverage has tended to indicate that Commissioner Loukidelis is doing his best for the public on a limited budget. I have serious doubts about that.
Given the attention that has been paid to this issue, I believe I should be able to get some help on this. Whatever transpires, when the OIPC's formal decision is released, and posted online, I will also post everything I have assembled on this case. The government evidently is using solicitor client privilege as the Swiss Army Knife of excuses. I believe we can do more than just publicly wringing our hands about this insanity.
North of Hope
2 years ago
No Cabinet Privilege
I agree. We should be able to get this information or have public hearings with NO Cabinet Privilege. Why do they get this privilege? They are working for us, we are paying them, we have a right to know what they think. If they feel they lose their freedom to express their views, well if their views are stupid, they should be fired. If they can defend them, fine. This does not appear to be the case so I have to conclude that they are covering up sleazy statements and actions.
Marysue
2 years ago
the number of rangers
I think Ross K is wrong. There are NO full time rangers. There are a small number of part-time (seasonal) rangers, and hardly any casual, and zero students.
As worrisome is the logging and mining in our parks.
As worrisome is the lack of paramedics, the cost of their training, and at $2 an hour for on call time, it's hardly worth their time getting the training, for, in small stations, they will never get that money back.
Then there's the over 100,000 people dropped off the welfare rolls, most of them kids. In the first two years of Campbell's reign, about 1000 kids died. The staticians were laid off, I guess, so we don't know what happened to those 100,000 plus. It sure wasn't that they found work, for the numbers of jobs have gone down, because all our resources are going "offshore", while our guys are unemployed.
Marysue
2 years ago
no labour shortage, but wage shortage
no chatter is wrong. There's never been a shortage of workers--in fact, the opposite. There's only a wage shortage. People like to be paid for their labour. People are funny that way. I think people get that false info on 'shortages' from the Fraser Insitute bumpf in the Province or Sun or any other of Asper or David Black's flyers disguised as "news". It's BS! People want to be paid adequately; they want safe and reasonable work conditions; and they want to be treated like a human being. We need a free media so people don't get misinformed.
Rod Smelser
2 years ago
Luke Sidewinder
I wonder why there's no commentary here from Luke Sidewinder. He almost always has something to say, why not on this item?