Gwen Barlee is correct. Her ''it's all under the radar'' is the defining factor in this governments entire MO. Can't find your local Liberal MLA? Go and turn over a rock, but be careful. You may uncover an entire nest of scummy developer types instructing your government representative on how to give them things for free.

You people are idiots; you just don't get it. We need jobs in this province: lots of them. Get with the progaram. This means jobs.

Jessie, Jessie, Jessie, perhaps you could clarify.

How many jobs are you talking about? Are you talking career-type jobs, or minimum-wage jobs? Will these be $16-an-hour jobs? Who will benefit from these jobs? Kids? Students? Single mothers? Retirees? Would you benefit from one of these jobs?

Perhaps you could hold a Women's Walk in favour of this project

And just an aside — where have all the jobs gone?

Even Preston Manning is getting with the Natural Capital Program. (see the September Column by Preston in the e-newsletter of the Canada West Foundation.) But the BC Liberals - they still haven't figured out what natural capital means.

I usually will not respond to others who call people names to try and make a point. Jessie Johal , you should be the poster child for Gordo . Like others have said We are going to destroy a natural wonder, only 2 like it in the world so a scummy developer Can Profit and we get a few jobs. The guy who runs the gondolas, maybe a few students, oh I forgot the People who will work at the new Starbucks etc. If this government is worried about jobs they Would not send 500 million dollar ferry contracts oversees and kiss of 2000 good paying jobs And kill the shipbuilding industry, they would not sell BC Rail which will cost 1000;s of Good jobs in the north. This is about patronage , nothing more.

One question that remains unanswered is on what side would the gondola run up. Up the front or the side is just patently stupid. Up the back -- so what?

This would really have been no big deal except for a few shrill screamers who think that any kind of developement is bad. Most people would realize that parks should be readily accessable to all not just an elite few who seem to think they own the place just because they walk it everyday. And for Stuart the government did not send jobs overseas, the ferry corporation made a determination that BC shipyards could not build the new ferries in a cost effective manner and did not have the ability to build them properly and instead chose a contractor who could. If an industry needs the government to force businesses to give them work then they are already dead. The sale of BC rail has opened up many more opportunities for northern communities instead of relying on what were essentially government subsidized jobs in BC rail. This is about getting BC back on its feet with sound business decisions that in the long run will benefit all BC'ers.

Dear BC Nature lover The Stawamus Chief dominates the area, a 1200' granite monolith overlooking Howe Sound, Canada's southernmost fijord. The Chief offers some of the finest multi-pitch climbing in the world with routes to suit a wide range of abilities. You can walk rock climb etc. It is very unique , in fact there is only 2 like it in the world. This mountain brings 1000's of people every year , it is a pristine and untouched. (We cannot be all things to all people), we have lifts at Grouse , Seymour, Whistler and many others. If we followed your standards we should build over every wetland and protected areas because a few Can't do the hike. If you look at Whistler, most of the area is private property, huge cost to park Use the facilities etc. This is what comes out of tampering with the private sector, If you want Whistler go ahead, but leave the chief be, The benefits will go into few hands, once you have Starbucks you cannot stop other private companies from entering the area. This mountain is a gem and one of a kind, lets not mess with it,he this development goes On it will open all of our public parks to private companies. As far as BC Ferries goes , the BC Lib Government gave a quasi private company the power to make These decisions, so yes the BC Fiberals did send these jobs oversees, as far as being able to build them cost effectively and having the ability to build them. Where do you think all the current ferries were built, they are larger than the current ones being proposed. BC Ferry corp did not Even bother to come to the shipyards to consider it, can you imagine Germany and Poland telling the World that its shipbuilders are incompetent, Gee David Han is doing such a great job. Is he not In Barbados now selling of our smaller routes to the highest bidder. Oh bye the way your buddy Gordo make the crown corporation a private corporation so they no longer come under Freedom of Information laws (and they refuse to show their dealings) I guess we will never know the numbers, why would they not reveal them if building oversees makes so much sense. So by your logic sending A 500 mil contact oversees , not employing 2000 ship builders who live in BC and pay taxes makes sense, Have you been smoking some BC Bud or are you on a drinking and driving rampage like your leader. The BC Rail deal stinks, already part of it has been blocked by the RCMP. BC Rail covered its dept and make from 45-51 mil profit per year, we controlled the movement of our products, we controlled the pricing, we kept the jobs in BC and the revenue. I guess you think maybe BC Rail workers are incompetent to. Please tell us how selling BC Rail has created many more opportunities in the north, northern BC which how has highest unemployment numbers than in the 80's. Check out the latest stats, the GVRD how has the highest crime rates increases in 10 yrs, from 8 in coquitlam to 17% in Delta. Is this your sound footing. Stop being spoon fed by Canwest

Surry up 16%, Vancouver up 13%, New West 11% Coquitlam up 9%, hey folks just the stats.. Delta crime increase tops other Lower Mainland communities DELTA I There's no way around it: Crime is on the rise in Delta, with provincial crime statistics for the first quarter of this year showing a 17 per cent increase.

My, my such a lot of personal insults Stuart. In the fury of your invective you take some personal shots at me, whom you know nothing about, thereby causing all your arguments to become nothing more than shrill rants devoid of all meaning. In the future I might suggest avoid using personal insults and stick with unemotional arguments, you may find them more effective.

I guess this means you do have any response to my comments. That’s okay , I did not think you Could respond to the truth. Please show me where I have flawed in my comments, I do know allot About you based on your previous comments. 1) You don't care about protecting our public parks And natural wonders. 2) you make wide sweeping comments about an industry your know nothing About, (how do you know BC Ferries is making the best decision when all the documents are kept Private, do you not want to at least see the other bids before kissing of 2000 jobs) 3) You have No pride when it comes to BC Workers, why not make everything in China or oversees. YOU WOULD NEVER HEAR A COMPANY IN GERMANY OR POLAND INSULTING THE WORKERS WHERE IT DOES BUSINESS, I thing your range of concern only covers what may immediately effect you. The I'm okay syndrome ,

BC nature lover- "an elite few who think they own it because they walk it every day"? That's the whole point- NO PERSON should own nature or any part of it. Defacing it with an ugly gondola because some people find it more convenient is pathetic.

I'm now finally convinced the BC Liberals have no game plan other than to destroy everything so that we beg the NDP for mercy and some sense of dignity in government (without a hint of irony or sarcasm in our tearful pleas). I'm already on my knees. This is not even supported by BC's recreational and fitness business people. Peter Twist (former Canucks fitness trainer and now fitness industry leading business man and owner of Twist Conditioning) has written a letter to the Campbell gov't denouncing the "Starbucks and Gondolas on the top of the Chief" (his take, not mine) - and circulated it to everyone of his acquaintances. Given the amount of opposition, the senselessness of the act, and the little payback for such an endeavour (other than further intrusion of what is left of "Supernatural BC" and more wild life aggression as we encroach upon the habitat of wild animals - and I'm not speaking about the Liberal party) I really can't understand why this thoughtless plan is not just abandoned. For every "innovative" disaster the Liberals have dreamt up - they have met with considerable opposition and have had to finally succumb to public petitions and outrage for their idiocity. Do they not see the pattern here for a completely ineffectual government in policy planning? Do they not feel that continuing with such regressive actions will seal the faith of non-confidence from the public? 'nough said already...

B.C. Nature lover, I can see by the very handle you use that it is you that doesn't get it...the "it" being that nature is just that...nature...it isn't restaurants, gondolas, billboards or the Disneyfication of what used to be natural. The argument goes that evryone should be able to see what only hikers, climbers and able enthusiasts get to see and in a lot of cases this may be applicable. Here are two reasons why I think the Chief should be left alone. 1) it is a great and singular natural wonder, a thing to be looked at in awe. Anything at all added to it changes it from natural to something that appeared natural and unconquerable to a conquered lump with a man made piece of crap running up it or sitting on it.2) this I direct to Jessie Johal, This unadorned wonder will in the long run along with all the other beauty we haven't shit on yet, provide far more economic benefit to the province than a few Mcjobs at the site. Why do people come here from all over the world? To see real wilderness, real fish in the rivers real forests, things that they dont have at home because it has already been shit on aka developed.We only have something in its natural state once...thereafter it is forever bastardized. We are fortunate to be able to have this discussion...lets not blow it