Educating Gordon
Why a pat on the head can be worse than a pat on the bum.
James and Campbell: vying for 'the big job.'
In arguments, there are a few crimes. Ignoring the question is one; politicians are well known for that. Committing an ad hominem is another: attacking the man instead of his points. And this week, there's been a flurry of another particular kind: the ad herminem, patronizing a woman for being a woman and ignoring her points.
Case in point: the B.C. leadership debate on Sunday night.
"Ms. James," said Gordon Campbell, on the topic of crime, "you should understand, this is a big job and it is hard to get a handle on."
Because before that, she had no idea she was running for premier or trying to tackle crime, right? She thought she was there to get a handle on the saucepan she was using to cook dinner (which I also happen to think is a "big job," just a slightly different one.)
In the debate, Mr. Campbell came across as "demeaning and patronizing," according to the Globe's Gary Mason, who speculated that "even Mr. Campbell's female supporters must have cringed at the remark."
When grilled by reporters after, Mr. Campbell seemed "genuinely bewildered by the fuss being made over his reply to Ms. James' legitimate question about crime," according to Mason. It's one thing to make a boo-boo; it's quite another to fail to recognize it or apologize. My two-year-old niece knows better than that.
Lesson #1: Joe Biden
So, it's clear Mr. Campbell was ignoring the points in order to make a personal attack. And sure we all do that sometimes, on debates ranging from federal policy to whose turn it is to take out the garbage. But we apologize, right? And given that more women played a role in the most-watched election in history just a few months ago south of the border, Mr. Campbell has had a lot of chances to study up on the new terrain and etiquette.
Case in point: the vice presidential debates between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin. Before Biden squared off against Palin, much ink was expelled about how the debate hinged on Biden's ability to remain respectful to someone who was certainly not his political equal, on how he could tackle her points without being either bully-ish or patronizing, since either might be construed as sexism. Biden won the debate in the court of public opinion, in large part, because he pulled that off.
That was a tougher feat than what Campbell faced on Sunday, because regardless of whose policies you side with (and I'm taking no sides here), it's clear that James and Campbell are in the same class when it comes to policy knowledge.
Lesson #2: Sonia Sotomayor
But ad herminems abound. This week, Salon ran an article called "Her Honour: Domineering and Dumb" about the kind of language used to discuss Sonia Sotomayor's suitability for the Supreme Court spot. Sotomayor is a Bronx native from a Puerto Rican family, a graduate of Princeton and Yale Law School, and a former commercial litigator and New York assistant district attorney (she's qualified). But rather than focusing on good questions like the strengths and weaknesses of her qualifications and politics, some (male) pundits are focusing on "low-budget aspersions about how brash, bossy and talkative" she is.
Lesson #3: Helen Gurley Brown (advanced)
It also falls in a week where there's lots of talk about a new biography of Helen Gurley Brown and how people used to react to her apparent double standards in gender treatment. In 1991, "in the wake of the Clarence Thomas hearings, and when she was nearing the end of her 32-year tenure as the editor of Cosmopolitan, that great invitation to fanny-pinching, was asked whether any of the women on her staff had ever been sexually harassed, a question to which she jovially replied: 'I certainly hope so.'"
Attempting to rescind her remarks in The Wall Street Journal, Brown claimed she had merely been facetious. But later went on to say that "if you're not a sex object, you're in trouble." Reading about Brown's 1962 life lead one Jezebel writer to the sobering realization that not much has changed since then.
But I and many other feminists think it's worth taking a closer look before we dismiss her so easily. Brown was a strident advocate for the primacy of work in women's lives, and the full equality of women in the workplace. She was actually lobbying for fun and pleasure as icing on the cake of fundamental respect. In other words, it's all fun and games, in the form of flirting, high heels, and general enjoyment, when there's equal power.
As Brown suggested in 1962, if a woman's choice is between a pat on the head and a pat on the bum, I think most women would pick the latter because that can go hand in hand with genuine respect. And most women would be more likely to pick a politician who gets that.
And that's what Campbell doesn't seem to get. Flirt? Sure. Patronize and then claim to be ignorant about why women find this offensive? C'mon.
Lesson #5: Naomi Wolf (advanced)
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating a return to what some call second-wave feminism, the kind of feminism where we treat men and women exactly the same, ignoring the biological and cultural differences. But we can't ignore the underlying lack of respect inherent in Campbell's remarks and attitude.
As Naomi Wolf points out in the Washington Post this week, it's as or more important than ever to point those cases out. In her review of the Brown biography, Wolf argues that it's all fine and good to embrace individualism. That "third wave feminism is pluralistic, strives to be multiethnic, is pro-sex and tolerant of other women's choices. It has led to an embrace of what was once so politically suspect -- the notion that you can be a 'lipstick lesbian' or a 'riot grrrl' if you want to be, that you can choose your persona and your freedom for yourself... but that a saucy tattoo and a condom do not a revolution make." We still have to point out instances where there's blatant sexism of the kind that undermines women's ability to do their jobs.
And that's what Campbell did. He tried to undermine her ability to do her job, not based on her knowledge or experience, but on her supposed lack of ability to understand, because of her gender, the "big jobs" that make up public life. An election campaign is based on each candidate trying to undermine the other, but the sexism test is this: would he have used those words or that tone with a man of James' caliber?
Related Tyee stories:
- Debate: Leaders respond to attacks in scrum
- No Sleaze, Please
Campbell set the bar so low, no wonder his team stoops. - Bitches Are Back
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freebear
2 years ago
I wonder what Campbell's mom thinks?
Did she spank him, or was she too busy in the kitchen to see and hear son Gord's words in the debate?
G West
2 years ago
Thanks Vanessa
Well written, well reasoned and well timed.
I really do wonder if Campbell has a 'problem' with strong women...so many of the worst examples of his tendency to want to demean any member of the opposite sex who has the balls (pun intended) to stand up to him. Elaine Brenzinger for example….
Perhaps you recall former Tyee contributing editor Barbara McClintock's thoughts on the question of the CEO and his 'woman' problem..
And then, of course, there's another whole 'woman problem' here too:
http://tinyurl.com/clyyxs
There’s a lot of current material on that site – don’t get distracted by the text – have a look at the pictures too…..
alive
2 years ago
BIG job
Gordo is correct: it is a big job!
too bad he was not man enough to handle it!
About G Wests remarks about Gordos problem with strong women, one might wonder why Carole Taylor decided to look for a career elsewhere?
Jeffrey J.
2 years ago
Great Coverage
Campbell's remarks were a classic 'Freudian slip', in spite of his feigned innocence. His distaste of women is palpable. And don't forget the non-partisan Republic which has covered some of these same items.
http://www.republic-news.org/archive/113-repub/113_potvin_media.htm
All in all, I really think BC will be better off with these guys.
lynn
2 years ago
His arrogance knows no bounds:
Campbell flips loonie at striking paramedics:
http://www.kelownadailycourier.ca/stories_local.php?id=183704
G West
2 years ago
And he wasn't, according to him at least,
Pissed at the time.
Which of course is the excuse another neocon former urban mayor turned western premier Ralph Klein used to explain his abusive and demeaning action when he threw loose change on residents of an Alberta homeless shelter.
Jeffrey J.
2 years ago
Ooops
That should read, "All in all, BC would be better off WITHOUT these guys." Sorry for the typo.
ME2
2 years ago
Ad heminem?
Carole's next job to be a rapper?
But it's nice to have Vanessa admit that if some women dress / act provocatively, it is not necessessariy harassment if some men nibble at the bait.
VivianLea Doubt
2 years ago
in response
ME2, I can only say don't take it as harassment if I say you're an a**hole for that remark.
Now, you may find that offensive or not - it's a judgement call, just as "provocative" is a judgment call. That's a problem, isn't it? Because just as I would be outraged at some man who would judge me provocative and "nibble" without my explicit invitation, you may be outraged at being called an a**hole by a total stranger.
circle A
2 years ago
they just don`t get it!
and they don`t want to get it!if the likes of campbell and co. had to acknowledge respect for others they would not be able to sleep at night considering how they have to stomp on those beneath them. another telling example of this is the sadistic way mla kevin krueger referred to hospital employees as(toilet cleaners) and this from what passes for a christian in the (best place on earth).
Hughes
2 years ago
Balls
And what's the truth about his marital status? That relationship seems to be mired in as much secrecy as the BC rail debacle.
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morechatter
2 years ago
Honesty and Integrity
And a little respect but all strangers to the Liberals as they run on empty with their hands in the pockets of the poor. Who are the poor? Well we have a new found poor and that is our now middle class who will find themselves in the poor house as they have moved their poor to the street and everyone is bought down a notch.
So be careful you don't find yourself in the poor house because next its the streets.
And why are so many down in this cold and callous hearted town because thats about sums up for the city without heart.
As women and children are left to be raped and robbed and beaten or die of disease on her streets as they have no home to call their own. I wonder how safe they feel during a pandemic?
ME2
2 years ago
VivianLea
Tee hee - I'm all that and more, dear lady.
But you swallowed my bait - and hook, line and sinker to boot LOL
VivianLea Doubt
2 years ago
tee hee
All things considered, I'd prefer a pat on the bum to "dear lady".
Fortunately, the choice is not restricted to those options.