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Why I'm for Clinton
As US stumbles in risky world, she's our best hope.
A three in a world of twos?
I have watched or been in politics most of my life yet wonders never cease.
I went to bed last Tuesday night after determining that Hillary Clinton had won both Ohio and Texas. Finally, I thought, at least some American Democrats are coming to their senses. I woke up on Thursday to the CBC, then the Toronto Globe and Mail telling me that while Clinton had won Texas she had lost Texas! Huh???
John Ibbotson in Wednesday's Globe and Mail worked it out that though Hillary had won three of the four primaries, she'd only raised her delegate count by 16, and though she was just a handful of committed delegates behind Barack Obama, she was running out of time and primaries not to mention money.
What about the 791 party hacks that get to go to the convention and vote? Wouldn't Hillary get most of them because of her long association with the inner sanctum of Democratic parties? Apparently the answer is no and that they are now committing themselves and that Obama is getting lots of them.
Money rules US politics
Before going further, I must say that I like the American system of separation of powers with the executive in many real ways beholden to the people's elected Congress. I think primaries where the party across the land must depend upon the rank and file to determine the leader have considerable merit. I think the Electoral College, which parcels out votes by state not popular vote is undemocratic is outdated -- without the electoral college George Bush would never have been president and that alone should be enough to get rid of it but I like their system overall.
However, the Americans have not found a way to control the money. It's absurd when a congressman spends several millions of dollars campaigning for a job that pays $169,300 per year. On the safe assumption that people don't spend money without expecting something in return, one can understand why some legislation is passed and issues, especially social ones, never make the floor of the house or the Senate.
One of the outcomes of the huge money being spent is the predisposition of U.S. parties to develop oligarchies like the Kennedys, the Bushes and now the Clintons as safe places to put their dough. The other side of this coin is that those who run against the establishment are usually kind of weird, Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter being good examples. In the main, money talks and U.S. political money is directed to a "safe pair of hands."
Crucial moment for all of us
This is a critical year. I suppose in its own way, every presidential election is critical, but this year the most powerful person on earth faces several international situations that require knowledge (anything would be an improvement over Dubya not knowing who the president of Pakistan was), a good sense of priorities, a deep understanding of history and a clear understanding of how other people live and behave.
The time was, and not that long ago, when candidates required little understanding of foreign affairs since Americans were far more interested in having a president who put, or left, money in their pockets than one who knew, wined and dined all the international big wigs.
World War I and II, Korea and Vietnam much affected the deep sense of isolation which, after all, went back to George Washington who, in his farewell address, said "Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics or the ordinary combination and collisions of her friendships or enmities."
In many ways the wars of the 20th century seem to harden Americans' desire to be left alone. The two world wars were seen as the bear coming out of its cave, smiting the bad things that were keeping him awake, then going back to hibernation. Korea must be seen in the light of 1950, when communism, especially at home in the United States, had to be dealt with. This was the time of the Joe McCarthy "red scare," which got so bad the famous movie star Humphrey Bogart said "They'll get you for scratching your ass during the playing of the national anthem." The U.S. could not be seen allowing the Soviet Union-inspired invasion of South Korea to succeed, especially since the Republicans had accused the Democrats of "losing" China to the Reds.
Vietnam, in the early stages at any rate, was painted by political leaders as stopping a "domino" effect of communism taking over all of Indo-China then, who knows, Indonesia and even Australia might be next. The American public, far from becoming used to dealing with faraway problems, became even less and less willing to have "their boys" coming home in body bags and more and more youth were draft dodging or going to jail for not reporting.
Swaying isolationist Americans
In short, the United States had been, against its will, involved in foreign wars and, if anything, the public was becoming more isolationist. Latest evidence: In the primaries now going strong, candidates spend much more time on domestic issues than on foreign entanglements.
Sept. 11, 2001 changed Americans in a fundamental way. Now the body bags were coming out of buildings in New York and Washington. The U.S., for the first time since 1812, was itself under attack. (In December 1941, Pearl Harbour, Hawaii was a territory).
Stuck with global role
The war in Afghanistan was popular because Americans were getting even. This changed voter emotions, making it easy for George W. Bush to create bogeymen and bogus issues and plunge the U.S. into yet another foreign entanglement in Iraq. For the first time the United States of America was in an overseas adventure that could be sold as defending America against evil. George Bush conjured up the image of the good sheriff. "Dead or alive" was his motto and while we're at it, let's sock it to Iran! Facts became irrelevant for a public that had become scared.
Whether or not isolationism has been extirpated or much reduced is now irrelevant. Any president from either party is stuck leading a world that either hates America's guts or tolerates their foreign involvements as evidence that it's hopelessly immature when it comes to understanding things and that the best policy is to ignore them when you can and give them patronizing advice when you can't.
What all this means is that the next president will inherit foreign entanglements all over the world. Perhaps the most vexing and dangerous of issues involves the continuing and massive return of Russia to global sabre rattling.
What started out as a look at the next occupant of the White House becomes evidence of Mair's Axiom II, namely, that you don't have to be a 10 in politics, you can be a three if everyone else is a two. As part of a world scared stiff that America, if not skillfully led, could get a world nuclear war going, we'd best pray that Hillary Clinton is that three in a sea of twos and wins in November.
Last musing...
If Hillary wins, how will she deal with that certain room and that certain chair made so famous by a certain man in her life?!
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G West
4 years ago
You're kidding, right Rafe!
This was supposed to be (at least that's the way it has been billed and headlined) an argument in favour of Hillary Clinton as President wasn't it?
If so, where's the argument?
I don't see any.
In fact, it is not even an argument against Barack Obama either.
Did that part of the column get lost in transmission?
ME2
4 years ago
Billary? Nyet
One can never predict of course, what events will loom in the future, nor guess what portion of the old Administration's advisors either candidate will keep.
However, as a "machine" politician, I would guess that with Billary there is less chance for changing directions than with Obama, and that includes the American proclivity to settle things with troops - which Mair carefully avoids mentioning.
City Person
4 years ago
The Clintons
As with the poster above, it has always surprised me how hatred and and anger there is in the USA towards the Cintons. What is the reason for this? The Bill Clinton presidency was very successful, with rising incomes, lowering debt and steady growth. They were even talking about paying off the national debt in the 2000 election. Instead, a Good Ole Boy was elected and the proof is in the pudding, wars, economic decline, debt, subprime and a massive currency devaluation.
So why hate the Clintons so much? Well, I have a couple of theories. Insiders they are not. Bill's roots are about a low as they get. Bill has a lot of that useless edumacation thang, which ain't much use when yer workin' skinnin' varmints. An Hillary don't know that a woman's place is on the bar waitin' to get picked up by a varmint skinnin' REAL MAN.
And ME2, "Billary" avoided doing anything with troops other than actual peace keeping and only when he absolutely had to.
tedward
4 years ago
Dynasty vs Oligarchy
I love Mr. Mair's columns (especially the ones that get him sued) but I do need to point out that the Kennedy, Bush and Clinton families are dynasties not oligarchies. Perhaps a subtle distinction but an important one nonetheless.
Van Isle
4 years ago
Does one believe that the
Does one believe that the situation in the US will get any better who ever becomes the next President? I believe that John McCain and Billary are just as scarey as George W. Whoever becomes the next pres will only last one term and then get kicked out because he/she will be blamed for the huge economic mess that is going to dog their country for the next decade. All the candidates only talk about the economic mess peripherally. As George W's father learnt; "It's the economy stupid".
Booker
4 years ago
A Difference
Well, yeah. Do you think the George W. Bush presidency was the same as the Bill Clinton presidency? I grant you that if McCain wins, not much will change. But an Obama or Hillary Clinton presidency will be very different from that of Dubya's. The "they're all the same" argument is simply wrong.
City Person
4 years ago
Yes, there is a difference
Not being a young man, I have heard "do you think another person could have done better?" and I have especially heard it from my American friends.
The proof is in the pudding; America has experienced its largest decline in history since Bush Jr was elected. It's currency is worth half what it was. It's relative place in the world economy has halved. The national debt is now $9 trillion vs $5.5 trillion in 2000. The US government has gone from a surplus of $400 billion to a deficit of at least $500 billion, depending on how you count it.
The USA has gotten into an a war it cannot win based on cooked intelligence and no matter how many prognostications of "we are winning" are made, it is obvious the USA is not. 3255 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and at least another 30,000 seriously wounded. There are now more mercenaries in Iraq than soldiers and nobody knows what they are doing and how many have been killed.
I could go on and on but th Bush presidency has been a travesty. Clinton did better.
Frank
4 years ago
Ms Clinton
I fail to see how Mr Mair can claim Ms Clinton is experienced. Did I miss a previous Ms Clinton presidency? Didn't think so.
She voted for Iraq because she believed Bush. Nuff said.
G West
4 years ago
Did I miss something
I thought it was Bill Clinton who was president from 1992 to 2000.
Was I wrong?
Furthermore, there's absolutely nothing in Rafe's little column to suggest he's done anything more than throw a few words at the screen.
Why, exactly, should folks want Hillary to confront McCain in November?
I think a case can be made - a very weak one mind you - but Rafe sure hasn't made it yet.
Maybe next week.
mopled
4 years ago
As far as foreign policy goes
Clinton, McCain and Obama would run things the same way. The Clinton's have as messy a closet as the Bush [EDITED FOR LEGAL CONCERNS. -MODERATOR.] family does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7dtVm9-Z5M
G West
4 years ago
Oh C'mon Mopled
Say what you like about Clinton - he's no George Bush...it takes generations to stock a closet like theirs. Clinton is a one-generation wonder.
And, as for Obama, he's a very different animal - I hope he gets a chance to try and do things a little differently - he has a very different perspective and a much more nuanced view of the US in the world.
Whether he can overcome the inertia of the US system is a fair question - but to suggest that Hillary Clinton brings any personal experience to the job which qualifies her uniquely is nonsense - even if Rafe made that argument - which he doesn't.
Nightbloom could do a better job of promoting Hillary as a non-feminist feminist.
Have a look at Andrew Sullivan's chop job if you like - at least it gives us something to talk about:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article3510778.ece
oeanda
4 years ago
Ronald Reagan not Establishment?
Dude, you just lost whatever cred you might have had on US politics.
Yammer
4 years ago
1. Isolationism 2. Hillary
1. I don't agree with Rafe's premise that the USA has suddenly become a lot more interventionist/militaristic under W.
I hope he is browsing these replies and has a look at "War Is A Racket."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
2. Hillary or Obama? They do have differences in their styles and backgrounds. There is the argument against the resumption of the Clinton psychodrama vs. the notion that Hill has had experience (second hand, but still close-up) with being in the Executive and trying to steer the ship of state, and that having a woman US prez is a historical opportunity.
I think the argument of merit is kind of irrelevant. The real question is, who can win for the Democrats? Pick the most electable person. The obvious choice is Obama, a galvinizing speaker who hasn't got Billary's scandals and whose opponents have to tread carefully on race/culture assaults. Obama has superstar qualities and has committed his public posture into being a peacemaker.
Hillary's fans have some good arguments, but her victory would go a long way to doing the unthinkable: keeping the War Party in power.
alda
4 years ago
You must be joking.
Rafe, you've got to be joking. Americans would be "coming to their senses" by voting for Hilary?
Glib and forceful on stage as she is, on an intellectual scale, Hilary is clearly, as you admit, a "3". That you consider a presidential candidate with a robot-like, status-quo mentality as putting America into a "safe pair of hands", is appalling. "Safe hands" are exactly where America has been for the last 30 or so years, and look where's it's pushed them - to the brink of social, economic, and miltary disaster.
That Hilary Clinton, with her self-professed "35 years" of political experience couldn't see through the WMD lie, is merely one example or either her thick-as-plank political acumen-- or far more likely, her moral compass. Her voting record, according to many fine left wing critics in the States (you might consider reading some of them - Chalmers Johnston comes to mind), entrenches her kind of thinking and voting firmly in the right, big business, neo-con camp.
A "safe" American president, for me, would be someone the mirror opposite of what they've had in the past decades--not more of the same. "Safe" would be someone with pure common sense, moral integrity, a desire to see political, social, and environmental actions in the name of the public good and for peace -- not a warmongering, pandering to big business sycophant like Hilary.
(And, by the way, although Jimmy Carter made political mistakes, too, he's not "weird," he's a thoughtful and intelligent man. "Weird" is Bush, and Bush Sr., and, yes, the two Clintons, and yes, Reagan. That you compare Carter to Reagan, thus proving that you don't know the difference between "weird" and "intellectually independent of group-think" is expected from someone who used to be a politican and media commentator, himself. (And that's not a compliment.)
James Burns
4 years ago
Off the top, Rafe that
Off the top, Rafe that column isn't up to your usual standard. You don't provide any reasons for preferring Clinton.
You also promulgate a number of pat American myths. The US has never been isolationist. Ever. They like to think of themselves that way, because it lets them believe their idealized image of the good ol' boy who only rouses himself for a scrap when someone does some form of evil against them. But as the history of Latin America, the Philippines, Japan and even Canada has shown, Americans will start wars and kill civilians in order to help their business interests. They've invaded countries throughout their history. Isolationism is really an argument for avoiding getting tangled up in European wars that would be a waste of American treasure.
Is your memory really that short? The Clinton presidency was a series of failures. Universal health care: failed. Preventing the Rwanda genocide: failed. Helping the former Soviet Union transition to democracy: failed. Instead they enabled the rise of the oligarchs and the plundering of Soviet resources, massive poverty, and the rise of a new strongman in Putin in response. Clinton bombed Iraq a number of times, once to draw attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal when it first broke. Clinton also took the lead in using NATO to bomb Serbia. He did absolutely nothing beyond assassination attempts through bombing to deal with radical Islamic terrorists. He did next to nothing to push a solution for Palestine, kowtowing to Israel at every turn. He continued a policy of disengagement from Iran. Under Clinton the internet stock bubble grew to enormous proportions, and burst just a few months after he left office. The vast majority of economic benefit went to the richest during the Clinton years. Real incomes for a huge proportion of the US public, particularly those with low incomes, actually declined during the Clinton years. NAFTA came about under Clinton, and it eviscerated their manufacturing base. I could go on. The Clinton years only look good, because he was followed by the worst president in US history. My dog would look good as the US president when compared to GWB.
Hillary Clinton has repeatedly demonstrated a remarkable ignorance of foreign affairs. She refers to fairly elected leaders like Hugo Chavez, and Evo Morales as dictators. She is extremely belligerent on Iran. She showed remarkable ignorance about the situation in Pakistan. But worst of all she voted in favor of going to war with Iraq.
What really shocks me though is the incredible naivety of the so-called experienced set. People who should know better because they lived it who selectively edit history. Why are so many people conveniently forgetting what happened with the Bill Clinton administration?
doggone
4 years ago
somehow I agree with everything here
Reading both Rafe's rant and Gwest's aknowledgement (or whatever it was) I wonder why I can be so wishy washy and proceed to log in.
1) what happens in the U.S. election will affect my future and those I worry about
2) what happens in the U.S. election will not affect the future
The first time I left this continent (1983,GBR) I was shocked how little U.S. (and it's subsidiary Canada)'s politics matter out there.
The last time I left this continent (Feb. 2008, Cuba) I was impressed by a people who carried forward in the face of all "bullying" (U.S. in this case not Canada)
Yanks are what they are and some of them happen to have Canadian citizenship and hold positions of public or commercial power here.
Here's what I saw written on the walls in Havana:
"If you can not lend a hand
Get out of the way"
mopled
4 years ago
Hillary Clinton, Not So Good on Genocide
http://www.alternet.org/story/79019/
"The dazzlingly brilliant journalist, Pulitzer-prize winning author, and Harvard professor, Samantha Power, has been forced to resign from the campaign after she recklessly told a reporter that Hillary Clinton is a "monster."
In the pungently hypocritical game of American politics, this is just something outside the rules. Whether it's true, or not, matters little. Nor does it matter that the object of Power's derision has just finished spending millions on TV ads implying that Obama would be responsible for the countless deaths of millions of American children sleeping at 3 a.m. Tut, tut. Nothing monstrous about that.
Power was rightfully awarded the Pulitzer for her finely written and downright horrifying book A Problem From Hell which, in macabre detail, describes the calculated indifference of the Clinton administration when 800,000 Rwandans were being systematically butchered. The red phone rang and rang and rang again. I don't know where Hillary was then. But her husband and his entire experienced foreign policy team -- from the brass in the Pentagon to the congenitally feckless Secretary of State Warren Christopher -- just let it ring.
And as more than one researcher has amply documented the case, the bloody paralysis of the Clinton administration in the face of the Rwandan genocide owed not at all to a lack of information, but rather to a lack of will. A reviewer of Power's book for The New York Times, perhaps summed it up best, saying that the picture of Clinton that emerges from this reading is that of an "amoral narcissist."
jacklean
4 years ago
Traces of Jimmy Carter
The United States is in constitutional crisis, and while it may look like a democratic process the money belies the truth beneath the celebration of the popular.
Methods of voting and the real problem of access has not been addressed, an executive branch that has thumbed its nose at the people and congress. Military ventures costing lives and livelihoods in the United States which are not supported by the "people". Negation and outright censorship of protest, silencing of opposition through litigation, must I go on.
Clearly a change from the present administration is most necessary, the problem here is the change for changes sake syndrome; furthermore it has a feel good component, Barack Obama proves what most say about the United States to be false, but in the end, its not about 2s and 3s but about class. Carter was the solution to Nixon, but the rest of the congress was not chosen that way. No matter your belief in "change" the inertia of the enabled elite does not. Class provides access to all the elements of power and self-determination that does not exist for the majority of the population.
Note that in no discussions have the issues of Cascadia been in play. We on this Northwest coast of North America need to demand attention from the Eastern establishment of class and privilege, be that Ottawa or Washington DC.
SayBlade
4 years ago
Best hope for America is still Dennis Kucinich.
And, the Clintons are not good for America or anywhere else in the world for that matter. Their connections with Wal-Mart and Monsanto are enough for me to dismiss them.
http://www.celsias.com/2008/02/19/an-open-letter-to-hillary-clinton-from-a-wellesley-college-alumna/
There is also the matter of the finger pointing at Canada after the events of 11 September 2001.
pender paul
4 years ago
poor choice for president
How can any thinking citizen of the United States endorse Clinton for president? That 'she stayed by her man' shows a complete lack of judgement--if she is so lacking on that basic issue how can she be trusted to run a country. She should be confined to some southern backwater where such practices have been the norm for the last 200 years--but certainly not the White House.
lynn
4 years ago
Bring in the clowns
America, with all its addictions to war, power and money ....and oil is badly in need of rehab.
But instead of the US doing the real hard work of real change, (staring deep into the dark abyss of what they have become, admitting the corporate terrorism inflicted by their own military-industrial complex on much of the world....and changing that lethal behavior) they've opted instead for candidates like McCain, Hilary and Obama. Candidates that will provide an image of the kind of America they want, rather than the real substance and courage of action that deep change calls for.
Candidates that will look more progressive, while at the same time can be counted on to stand firmly, all three, in strong defense of the continued terror and imperialism of the military industrial complex. And stand firm they will in defense of the status quo - even firmer in the delusion of America the Good....bringing democracy to the rest of the world.
It's a superficial make-over job that will fool for awhile. None of the most lethal rampant addictions will be addressed but the vanity of a more progressive America will lift hearts and minds inside the US for awhile. Perhaps even outside.
It will look better for awhile.... a Black president, a woman president, a war hero....a public relations dream team.....with a largely co-dependent public hoping the easy way out will suffice. "Change" that won't jar too much. Everyone can keep on shopping. And war will always happen waaay over there where it won't disturb things much in la-la land. And the biggest unreality/reality show on earth can forge on.
Yaaaaaay, ding, dong, the witch is dead... GW is finally gone.... and we're Amerika the Good again. Easy. Peasy. Nothing to it.
Speaking about the deadly illusion of "quick fixes" by not honestly facing the power of our own addictions, George Carlin once said:
Cynic
4 years ago
Sheesh, Raif. I had to read
Sheesh, Raif. I had to read this twice to make sure you weren't joking. Wonders never do cease.
Do you really believe the fantasyworld marketing slogan that the president is "the most powerful man on earth"? People like David Rockefeller or Evelyn de Rothschild have more power in their little pinky, the one that makes the presidential puppet dance. Obama's top "adviser" is Zbigniew Brezinski. Which of the two do you think will call the shots?
You say that the US has been involved in foreign wars "against its will". Glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that one. It is simply depressing to think that someone of your experience could display such wilful blindness to the geopolitical realities on our planet. Or are we talking about different US's here?
"For the first time the United States of America was in an overseas adventure that could be sold as defending America against evil."
For the first time? How can you say that? Name me one act of US murdering aggression that wasn't sold in this way.
"Perhaps the most vexing and dangerous of issues involves the continuing and massive return of Russia to global sabre rattling."
Nonsense. The US spends more on the military than all other countries combined and as Chomsky notes, there's a reason for that. The most dangerous and vexing issue facing humanity is the incessant murder, torture, rape, and massacre perpetrated by the US. And the genocide will continue no matter who gets installed to lead the fantasy dwellers, especially when articles like this do nothing to enlighten.
Frank
4 years ago
US interventions in Latin America up to WW2
Rafe believes Latin America forced the USA to invade it more times than Germany or France ever crossed each other's border.
1846
The U.S., fulfilling the doctrine of Manifest Destiny, goes to war with Mexico and ends up with a third of Mexico's territory.
1850, 1853, 1854, 1857
U.S. interventions in Nicaragua.
1855
Tennessee adventurer William Walker and his mercenaries take over Nicaragua, institute forced labor, and legalize slavery.
"Los yankis... have burst their way like a fertilizing torrent through the barriers of barbarism." --N.Y. Daily News
He's ousted two years later by a Central American coalition largely inspired by Cornelius Vanderbilt, whose trade Walker was infringing.
"The enemies of American civilization-- for such are the enemies of slavery-- seem to be more on the alert than its friends." --William Walker
1856
First of five U.S. interventions in Panama to protect the Atlantic-Pacific railroad from Panamanian nationalists.
1898
U.S. declares war on Spain, blaming it for destruction of the Maine. (In 1976, a U.S. Navy commission will conclude that the explosion was probably an accident.) The war enables the U.S. to occupy Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines.
Frank
4 years ago
and... so on....
1903
The Platt Amendment inserted into the Cuban constitution grants the U.S. the right to intervene when it sees fit.
1903
When negotiations with Colombia break down, the U.S. sends ten warships to back a rebellion in Panama in order to acquire the land for the Panama Canal. The Frenchman Philippe Bunau-Varilla negotiates the Canal Treaty and writes Panama's constitution.
1904
U.S. sends customs agents to take over finances of the Dominican Republic to assure payment of its external debt.
1905
U.S. Marines help Mexican dictator Porfirio Díaz crush a strike in Sonora.
1905
U.S. troops land in Honduras for the first of 5 times in next 20 years.
1906
Marines occupy Cuba for two years in order to prevent a civil war.
1907
Marines intervene in Honduras to settle a war with Nicaragua.
1908
U.S. troops intervene in Panama for first of 4 times in next decade.
1909
Liberal President José Santos Zelaya of Nicaragua proposes that American mining and banana companies pay taxes; he has also appropriated church lands and legalized divorce, done business with European firms, and executed two Americans for participating in a rebellion. Forced to resign through U.S. pressure. The new president, Adolfo Díaz, is the former treasurer of an American mining company.
1910
U.S. Marines occupy Nicaragua to help support the Díaz regime.
1911
The Liberal regime of Miguel Dávila in Honduras has irked the State Department by being too friendly with Zelaya and by getting into debt with Britain. He is overthrown by former president Manuel Bonilla, aided by American banana tycoon Sam Zemurray and American mercenary Lee Christmas, who becomes commander-in-chief of the Honduran army.
1912
U.S. Marines intervene in Cuba to put down a rebellion of sugar workers.
1912
Nicaragua occupied again by the U.S., to shore up the inept Díaz government. An election is called to resolve the crisis: there are 4000 eligible voters, and one candidate, Díaz. The U.S. maintains troops and advisors in the country until 1925.
Frank
4 years ago
and well again
1914
U.S. bombs and then occupies Vera Cruz, in a conflict arising out of a dispute with Mexico's new government. President Victoriano Huerta resigns.
1915
U.S. Marines occupy Haiti to restore order, and establish a protectorate which lasts till 1934. The president of Haiti is barred from the U.S. Officers' Club in Port-au-Prince, because he is black.
"Think of it-- niggers speaking French!" --secretary of State William Jennings Bryan, briefed on the Haitian situation
1916
Marines occupy the Dominican Republic, staying till 1924.
1916
Pancho Villa, in the sole act of Latin American aggression against the U.S, raids the city of Columbus, New Mexico, killing 17 Americans.
"Am sure Villa's attacks are made in Germany." --James Gerard, U.S. ambassador to Berlin
1917
U.S. troops enter Mexico to pursue Pancho Villa. They can't catch him.
1917
Marines intervene again in Cuba, to guarantee sugar exports during WWI.
1918
U.S. Marines occupy Panamanian province of Chiriqui for two years to maintain public order.
1921
President Coolidge strongly suggests the overthrow of Guatemalan President Carlos Herrera, in the interests of United Fruit. The Guatemalans comply.
1925
U.S. Army troops occupy Panama City to break a rent strike and keep order.
1926
Marines, out of Nicaragua for less than a year, occupy the country again, to settle a volatile political situation. Secretary of State Kellogg describes a "Nicaraguan-Mexican-Soviet" conspiracy to inspire a "Mexican-Bolshevist hegemony" within striking distance of the Canal.
"That intervention is not now, never was, and never will be a set policy of the United States is one of the most important facts President-elect Hoover has made clear." --NYT, 1928
Frank
4 years ago
and....
1929
U.S. establishes a military academy in Nicaragua to train a National Guard as the country's army. Similar forces are trained in Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
"There is no room for any outside influence other than ours in this region. We could not tolerate such a thing without incurring grave risks... Until now Central America has always understood that governments which we recognize and support stay in power, while those which we do not recognize and support fall. Nicaragua has become a test case. It is difficult to see how we can afford to be defeated." --Undersecretary of State Robert Olds
1930
Rafael Leonidas Trujillo emerges from the U.S.-trained National Guard to become dictator of the Dominican Republic.
1932
The U.S. rushes warships to El Salvador in response to a communist-led uprising. President Martínez, however, prefers to put down the rebellion with his own forces, killing over 8000 people (the rebels had killed about 100).
1933
President Roosevelt announces the Good Neighbor policy.
1933
Marines finally leave Nicaragua, unable to suppress the guerrilla warfare of General Augusto César Sandino. Anastasio Somoza García becomes the first Nicaraguan commander of the National Guard.
"The Nicaraguans are better fighters than the Haitians, being of Indian blood, and as warriors similar to the aborigines who resisted the advance of civilization in this country." --NYT correspondent Harold Denny
1933
Roosevelt sends warships to Cuba to intimidate Gerardo Machado y Morales, who is massacring the people to put down nationwide strikes and riots. Machado resigns. The first provisional government lasts only 17 days; the second Roosevelt finds too left-wing and refuses to recognize. A pro-Machado counter-coup is put down by Fulgencio Batista, who with Roosevelt's blessing becomes Cuba's new strongman.
1934
Sandino assassinated by agents of Somoza, with U.S. approval. Somoza assumes the presidency of Nicaragua two years later. To block his ascent, Secretary of State Cordell Hull explains, would be to intervene in the internal affairs of Nicaragua.
1936
U.S. relinquishes rights to unilateral intervention in Panama.
1941
Ricardo Adolfo de la Guardia deposes Panamanian president Arias in a military coup-- first clearing it with the U.S. Ambassador.
It was "a great relief to us, because Arias had been very troublesome and very pro-Nazi." --Secretary of War Henry Stimson
Frank
4 years ago
okay...
I'm calling it at WW2 for the sake of brevity (badda-boom)
So obviously Rafe's got a point, the US was very isolationist. Just wanted to heed the words of their first president and be left alone.
uvicrepresent
4 years ago
Lucky Hillary!
Hopefully this endorsement will help hillary after the flurry of superdelegates pledging their support towards Obama.
This article does not seem to argue why you endorse Hillary over Obama? Not really an endorsement at all as much as is a discussion of why this an important election?
OBAMA ALL THE WAY! no question
DNA
4 years ago
Yeah but why, Rafe?
I can't figure out why you think Clinton is better than Obama. All we get is Clinton may be a 3 and Obama only a 2. Why? Experience?
I think you just like her because, like most comentators, she's getting old (60, Obama is 46). Not that there's anything wrong with that - but age alone does not guarantee a good presidency.
Presidents over 60 when they took office included a few good ones, in my book - Jackson, Truman, maybe John Adams. But also some duds: Ford, Eisenhower, Taylor, GHW Bush, Buchanan, Harrison, Reagan.
Okanagan Orchardist
4 years ago
Poly Sc 200
I agree with most of the sentiments expressed by Cynic. I cannot believe that Rafe would deprecate our political system, with all its faults, in favour of what we see down south. Money talks in the US of A, and it is money that has controlled the presidency since before and after the time of Eizenhower. I think, Rafe, that you were just trying to stir up a little controversy to see if you still had our attention.
Cheers
Alice
4 years ago
one Clinton was enough
"What about the 791 party hacks that get to go to the convention and vote? Wouldn't Hillary get most of them because of her long association with the inner sanctum of Democratic parties? Apparently the answer is no..."
That's how change happens. Get used to it.
"If Hillary wins, how will she deal with that certain room and that certain chair made so famous by a certain man in her life?!"
Just one of many reasons Hillary won't win.
RickW
4 years ago
The Purpose of the Bush Presidency.....
....was to loot the nation. And it has done very well!
Neither John, nor Hillary, nor Obama will inherit anything viable, what with the only real industry the "defense" one. John is most apt to continue the war or wars, with Hillary close behind. Obama? He may end up simply being a talking head.
Des
4 years ago
Hillary Clinton
Rafe, you're taking a real beating here. And undeservedly so. Apparently most posters don't take the time to figure out what you're talking about.
Somehow they've got the idea that you would elevate Hillary to the status of Goddess of the Universe. If they listened beyond their own prejudices, they would hear you saying that she's the best of a bad lot, not that she's the saviour of this world.
For all that she has done incorrectly, apparently even to the forgiveness of her husband's philandering, she is deemed to be incorrigibly 'wrong wrong wrong.'
And racism is not just discrimination directed against someone who is 'black' like Obama, but includes discriminating against someone because she is not. Otherwise the polls would not say that four of five blacks are in favour of Obama.
I thought well of Obama until he commented on TV that as President he would confer with other leaders, including the "President" of Canada. Since then, his appeal to me has lessened.
McCain would be mainly concerned, like Dubya, with "not losing" another war, ignoring the very real domestic problems of a military-industrial complex gone berserk. Besides which, his choice of a Vice-President is of much more import than for either Democrat.
Finally, polls which ask not who would make the best President, but which candidate would most easily beat the others, show McCain topping Obama, but Clinton topping McCain.
Rafe is vindicated therefore in hoping Hillary gets the nod, which will thereby benefit Canadians the most.
Stryekker
4 years ago
So Rafe's for Hillary... what does he have against Obama?
How can Mair favour Hillary but say nothing about Obama? Is it no contest?
Regardless who gets the Democratic nod and who ultimately succeeds Dubya, the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq is going to be very messy -- if it ever does happen.
Because of its dependance on Middle East oil, U.S. foreign policy demands their continued military presence. Yet -- thanks to Dubya -- they are more despised there than ever.
The worst American foreign policy mistake in the past 100 years was to alienate the Arab and Islamic people by taking the wrong side in the creation of the State of Israel.
A sane, pragmatic U.S. foreign policy requires termination of its blatant support of Israel and recognition of the legitimacy of a Palestinian state.
G West
4 years ago
Pardon me?
This is what Rafe says:
Then a few throw away lines about US politics in general, followed by this:
And he winds it up like this:
What started out as a look at the next occupant of the White House becomes evidence of Mair's Axiom II, namely, that you don't have to be a 10 in politics, you can be a three if everyone else is a two. As part of a world scared stiff that America, if not skillfully led, could get a world nuclear war going, we'd best pray that Hillary Clinton is that three in a sea of twos and wins in November.
Last musing...
Now Des, you may think that's a strong argument in favour of Hillary for President; me, I think it's damning with faint praise.
Now, please, you're a clever guy, WHAT EXACTLY IS IT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON THAT MAKES HER RAFE'S NUMBER ONE CHOICE?
In my view there's nothing here so please, read Rafe's tea leaves and tell us where he's made any kind of a cogent case for Clinton?
Far as I can tell her only qualification of any substance is the fact she may once have slept with the president - and she's hardly alone in that.
vegguy
4 years ago
Well Rafe, I agree with you.
I also agree with sayblade. If Americans had wanted change they would be backing Kucinich. Obama cannot win on slogans alone, but thats all he has. If he gets the democratic nod, then the party will have shot itself in the foot for the 3rd time in a row.
Obama the "liberal" solidly backed by John Kerry and the Kennedy clan. Give us a break. Hilary has a chance to win the presidency. Obama will go down like Johm Kerry. And these are desperate times. The US economy is going in the tank. Mr.O has been bought and paid for too, but he is far more desperate and far less self sufficient than the others. Hilary the 3 would be better than McCain the 2, but Obama's a 1. If he wins the nomination, he'll lose the presidency.
alda
4 years ago
to Frank
Nice little historical tome there, Professor. Wonder if Rafe will bother to read it...
As for the commentator who wrote that Rafe was "choosing the best of a bad lot"-- he was doing a lot more than that- he was defending the indefensible, whitewashing a despicable historical record.
G West
4 years ago
C'mon guys, get real
I'm not even saying that a case can't be made for Hillary as the best candidate for President, or for the Democratic Party, I'm just asserting that NO ONE has done it - not Rafe, not vegguy, not Des.
If she's your favourite please tell us why and not just because Rafe says she's a '3' in a field of 2's?
Because if that's all there is to your preference, then why even bother to post.
Obama is from a new generation, a new demographic and someone with a wider experience and view of America and the world; I know that's not much, but it's a hell of a lot more than I see the wife of a former president offering.
What the hell do you see in her? And don't give me some bull about electability - nothing would please the neo-cons more than a Clinton candidacy to bring their old coalition back out of the weeds for one more kick at the cat.
As far as Rafe is concerned, it seems to me that it's contingent upon a writer who titles his piece 'Why I'm for Clinton' to actually MAKE that case. He hasn't, and neither has anyone else.
jrb
4 years ago
shoddy all round
what was this? i began reading it because i thought it would compare the two democratic candidates with one another and mccain. there was none of that. just some rambling and bits and pieces of thoughts. the next time rafe has a deadline, someone please tell him that if he has nothing to write then it's not necessary to write anything.
ME2
4 years ago
"Change" again
This is a very informative thread, esp James Burn's excellent breakdown of Bill Clinton's questionable actions as President, and Frank's exhaustive recounting of Yankee aggression in the Americas in pursuit of the Monroe Doctrine, as expanded to legitimise its economic imperialism in the Americas.
As the most propagandised people in the world, however, few Americans would believe that there was anything the tiniest bit wrong with the "interventions" Frank listed - even if they knew about them.
And I think such is the case with Billary, too. She's been fully indoctrinated with flag-saluting from infancy to successful politician. Raised with a silver spoon in her mouth, and having profited considerably in her business dealings, you can bet she isn't about to "change" much, other than a few tweakings.
Ask ANY American. He'll assure you there are only two systems in this world - Communism and American-style Democracy, and the first doesn't work :-)
On the other hand, Obama has had the opportunity to look at the US from the outside, and just perhaps might not be as wedded to conventional US orthodoxy as is Clinton.
He'd be a fool to show any heavy leanings in that direction right now while he's looking for votes, But if it is real "change" that is needed, it's my guess he's the best bet.
siamdave
4 years ago
better way to spend time
It makes little difference who is the American pres - they're just puppets, as are the Cdn PMs. If we're goint to make anything better, we need to understand where the real power lies. Start here - Banketeering - how the banks have been stealing trillions from you, and the tap is still running http://www.rudemacedon.ca/dlp/box/box01-money.html
kootcoot
4 years ago
Get Well Card 4 Rafe
Just to be clear, I am not a Hillary hater, and think even she would be an improvement over ANY RePuklican candidate for president. However I do have problems with the oligarchy thing and the fact that she has been a hostage within the beltway, lo these long years.
Obama didn't matriculate from nursery school last month and has himself spent more time as an "elected" office holder than Ms. Big Dawg Clinton. He has also spent much of his twenty plus years in public life working on social justice issues rather than exclusively the corporate agenda.
I don't know if Rafe is sufffering from and exhibiting the symptoms of "Libel Chill," on holiday somewhere with an untrained, non-critically thinking protege submitting his column or just experiencing mental effects of aging.
His article claims to be about "Why I'm for Clinton." Well after reading it twice, I'm with James Burns, in that:
I still can't figure out why he is for Hillary other than she is slightly better looking than Obama and/or MacCranky McCain. You know, she's a three in a field of twos. As far as I know ole Rafe is a straight 8, so it shouldn't be surprising if he prefers the blonde gal over the guy, either black or old and white.
As far as Hillary's much bandied "experience," I think Chris Rock may have put it best when he said "My wife and I have been married more than ten years and SHE STILL AIN'T FUNNY!" By this criteria, perhaps Laura Bush should be preznit, or Laura and Hillary could share the throne.
Rafe's understanding of US meddling in the affairs of sovereign nations anywhere on earth, be they Vietnam, Iran, almost every Latin American country, Africa and yes even Old Europe and the old USSR 'Stans, is breathtakingly shallow and distorted. When Rafe spews out something like this column I can't help but remember that he was a cabinet minister in what was essentially the Republican Party of BC at the time.
I must say that Rafe's closing little afterthought will definitely make me reconsider whether or not I should even waste my time on his once relevant musings anymore. I mean really Rafe......
Good luck landing that regular gig with E!, Hard Copy or as a regular commentator on Boil O'Really's show!
[EDITED FOR LEGAL CONCERNS. -MODERATOR.]
G West
4 years ago
Oh and by the way
I understand one of Hillary's superdelegates suffers from the same kind of problem with his fly that her husband does - what is it with these guys?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/nyregion/11fall.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Another reason to support Hillary Rafe?
kootcoot
4 years ago
Dem Dastardly Dems
In answer to part of GW's question above:
Perhaps Mr. Spitzer's greatest sin was in hiring a prostitute while being a "Democratic" governor.
It is amusing to hear the ReThugular politicians calling for Mr. Spitzer's immediate resignation, if one recalls incidents such as the following, which is merely one example of many.
When it became public that US Senator from Louisiana David Vitter had been a repeat client of Deborah Palfrey (aka the "D.C. Madam") and Jeannette Maier (aka the "Canal Street Madam") Republican senators gave Vitter a "loud standing ovation" after his apology to fellow senators. BTW, he still represents Louisiana in the Senate.
It would behoove GW and everyone to at least note the following facts about this latest Republican Crusade.
1. The original investigation began in the politicized DOJ branch known as Public Integrity Section. This Department, during the Bu$h administration, has opened 5.6 cases against Democrats for every one involving a Republican. This at a time when usually there were more ReThugs in Congress.
2. This investigation originally was looking into "banking transactions" possibly involving the man who had in the past and promised in the future to go after real criminals, with real victims, such a predatory lenders and Ponzi scheme operators on, you guessed it, Wall Street!
3. Spitzer will apparently be prosecuted (if prosecuted) under the Mann Act - that handy law about crossing state lines for....eeeek....SEX. This law was used to take down Jack Johnson the boxer for deigning to date white women and for a Canadian connection, Elizabeth Smart was arrested and charged in 1940 while crossing the border with the British poet George Barker. It was also used in an attempt to drive Charlie Chaplin (a subject of the Queen) out of the US due to his political leanings.
4. The complaint itself suggests the political nature of what could be called a witch hunt. Elliot Spitzer is named as Client #9 in the complaint and if one looks at the complaint, one will notice that one client hogs the limelight.
If you are Republican you can do pretty much anything, it seems, except underage boys, and those cases are considered on an individual case to case basis. Attempted or accomplished sex with police in airport bathrooms and crack dealing male prostitutes are still before the court of Republican opinion - they may yet turn out to be OKAY.
G West
4 years ago
Koot
I meant American male politicians as a 'class' - one can certainly make the case that zipper malfunctions aren't restricted to the donkeys or the elephants - on the other hand, I don't see how somebody like Spitzer can carry it off and not resign.
His reputation as a white knight fighter of corporate and other crime just makes the juxtaposition of his personal sexual extracurricular activities too dissonant.
He'll have to go - and that's too bad...without guys like Eliot and his sidekick from Massachusetts (Fitzgerald) a lot of the corporate kleptocrats would still be out there fleecing the public.
I just can't understand what's wrong with the picture - is it something they add to the food that turns so many of them into priapic idiots?
James Burns
4 years ago
Prostitution, and the same
Prostitution, and the same goes for recreational drugs, should be legalized and regulated for health and safety. So much of the crime and exploitation that goes hand in hand with these activities would be eliminated or drastically reduced were that to happen. What's more, I cannot for the life of me understand why on these particular issues consenting adults cannot be allowed to make their own decisions.
What is so ironic about Spitzer is his hypocrisy. Although consistency is never a strong point of politicians. I find it difficult to have sympathy for someone who is so morally rigid and yet who engages in the very things he rails against.
Booker
4 years ago
Disgusting
What I find particularly disgusting is that Spitzer brought his wife on stage to share publicly in the humiliation he is responsible for. He should tender his resignation immediately. Too many men think that political or economic power gives them the right to live out their sexual fantasies without consequence and without regard for the feelings of others.
southdeltawalker
4 years ago
International Women's Day.....
...has come and gone but not a mention in "The Tyee".
The reason I am posting this comment here is that there is no article on International Women's Day to post it in.
Also, this columnist, Rafe Mair, called a woman "ugly as a stump" some months ago. His comment was supported by the editor giving as a rationale that the woman was dead.
None of the posters commenting on this supported either Rafe or the editor.
An apolgy was not offered to those of us that found the comment offensive.
Anyways last weekend i did a "scan" of articles written by men and women that were featured on the the Tyee "front page" .. i.e. when you first go to the Tyee.
24 articles were written by men and 7 were writen by women.
When i took out the lifestyle and entertainment columns-the "softer news"- 20 columns were by men and 2 by women.
I think this speaks for itself.
For those that are interested here are links to-
video of International Women's Day Rally held here in Vancouver
http://workingtv.com/iwd2008.html
and a link to rabble.ca
http://www.rabble.ca/
rabble.ca features many articles written by feminists and posted the link for the IWD rally on it's website.
Booker
4 years ago
Women's Day/Southdeltawalker
Here is a related article from the Boston Globe on the difficulties that women political candidates run into:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2008/02/17/black_man_vs_white_woman/
The recent research on bias, and on pay equity (it's getting worse between men and women, with a spread of 30% now) show us that we have a long way to go. This doesn't mean I support Clinton, but I do think that some of the vitriol directed at her is gender-based (some of the vitriol has a basis in reality, and is the reason I'd prefer Obama).
I think it's too bad that the U.S. will likely keep their string of male presidents going for the foreseeable future. It's difficult to think of a female politician who has the popularity to overcome the bias.
kootcoot
4 years ago
GW
I was just sayin' that if Spitzer had of been smart enough to be a Republican this would have either remained unknown, or would have been "no foul" like Vitter, Craig etc. Keep in mind both Vitter and Craig still sit in the same Senate as the esteemed Liar Lieberman.
Obviously it damages someone who was an ally against the real bad guys. It takes a lot (like the DukeStir) to get nailed as a RePublican under the Bu$h DOJ. To prove my point - the US Attorney who pursued the Duke and was after another RePuke was among those fired by Alberto for "poor" performance.
Hopefully we haven't seen the end of the whole US Attorney firings, the Siegleman persecution and all the assorted other symptoms of treating the Department of Justice as an arm of the Republican National Committee run from the shadows by Karl Rove.
James Burns
4 years ago
Why only count women?
Some people, both men and women, are as ugly as stumps. Hell some might argue Rafe fits that description.
Southdeltawalker, I didn't see you comment on the fact February was black history month. Now we're not talking just a single day here, we're talking a whole month. Why the lapse? Got something against black people?
Oh, and how many Tyee articles do you think were written by ethnic minorities? Why are you unconcerned by that? Why do only women provoke your concern in the number of articles written?
Frankly, what I find particularly offensive is the act of intimidation you resort to. You go about questioning the
Tyee's commitment to providing women a voice by counting articles written by women. It would comparatively easy to find a few ultra-conservative women with thoroughly repugnant views about the place of women in society, and have them write articles advocating for the restriction of women's rights. Of course it would meet your so important statistical criteria.
Clearly the fact that the best you could dredge up in criticism of the Tyee's content as regards women is Rafe's "ugly as a stump" quote, calls into question your smear attempt. Maybe you should start giving the Clinton campaign advice on dirty tactics.
Female politicians definitely face hurdles. Let's deal with those realistically instead of through smears. Personally, I'd love to see someone like California senator Barbara Boxer as US president. But I'd support her for her progressive stances on issues, not because she's female, or jewish or short. Those features are inconsequential next to her behaviour as a politician. What legislation she supports, and what sort of decisions she would likely make as president are what would provoke me to support her. Not her sex.
cghzd
4 years ago
Hillery
Hillary lost me when she declared in the US media after 9/11 " the terrorists came from Canada, everyone knows that" ???. She really dropped to the bottom when she jumped into bed with Bush and supported him and his war in Iraq. I could go on but it would take to long and bore to many people. This lady couldn't run a lemonade stand let alone the US.
Ralph Nader was absolutely right when he said both the Democrats and Republicans are like a two headed snake. Both are rotten to the core and Hillary is up to her armpits in cahoots with the power brokers at the top.
Obama is certainly seen as someone who appears to have rekindled hope in many Americans that he can pull the US out of the toilet it is in financially and diplomatically and let them once again be proud to be American. Hillary is just one of the same old tired crowd of shysters that have had their way for far to long.
Canis Latrans
4 years ago
Men's flies...
Well, I'm sure as hell going to stay out of this conversation. My fly hasn't been the best behaved blighter either-, and with what's said about glass houses and all. :-)
That said, Spitzer is a scumbag.
Other than that, I couldn't give a rat's ass who wins the US election. One's black and one's a rich woman-, both with their history of sufferance, no doubt. But in this situation, both are still essentially cut from the same political, class serving cloth, in my view. And that, I think, comes through loud and clear about both of them.
One was gungho, go get 'em in Iraq, whilst the other one wants to attack middle east insurgent bases in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Both are prescriptions, with about the same contents only different labels, that serves the endless war sickness, and imperialist interventions in the Middle East of the US Empire-, in so far as I'm able to determine.
I'm more concerned with ending the US Empire role in the world, including this country-, and liberating Canada from its tripping, whilst walking too close, making kissy-kissy, head first position up the Empire's unclean rectum.
A pox on both their houses and ambitions, Hillary and Obama. Both really represent another losing effort to put a human face on The Beast That Roams The World Destroying The People and Stealing The Resources of The Smaller and Weaker.
This is a pill that can't really be sugar coated, except maybe in this country. (The tar sands oil project comes to mind as well, of a US oil rip-off invasion, re the staggering gullibility of this country.)
RickW
4 years ago
G West
"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac."
- Henry A. Kissinger
lynn
4 years ago
Riding an American Bandwagon to Nowhere
Canis Latrans wrote:
I'm more concerned with ending the US Empire role in the world, including this country-, and liberating Canada from its tripping, whilst walking too close, making kissy-kissy, head first position up the Empire's unclean rectum.
A pox on both their houses and ambitions, Hillary and Obama. Both really represent another losing effort to put a human face on The Beast That Roams The World Destroying The People and Stealing The Resources of The Smaller and Weaker.
You always manage to say it hot and true, Canis Latrans. Say hi to your dancing horse for me.
Great post by Cynic as well.
Joel99
4 years ago
Having never cared much for
Having never cared much for Hillary Clinton after she voted to support Bush and company in their criminal war in Iraq,in the face of abundant evidence that it was a sham, I dislike her even more and here is why.
She has revealed in this campaign a willingness risk sacrificing the Democratic party to further her personal ambition.
I was around in 1968 (I am from the US) and saw what the Democratic Party did to itself with a brokered convention.
Hillary Clinton has attacked in an unprincipled fashion the competence of Barack Obama. He on the other hand has displayed restraint and concern for the future of the party.
Her lack of any apparent sense of concern about the larger issues and her focus on herself as being the only answer to the problems the US faces, reveals a frightening lack of scruples.
If she achieves this Pyrrhic victory the Democratic party will deserve the same fate for allowing it. Then perhaps their will be a window of opportunity for a third party in US politics.
doggone
4 years ago
I failed Latin
Canis Latrans seems to me to translate to: Dog Gone or Dog something. Please inform
In the meantime I gotta admit you are better informed than I am and (possibly) a better writer.
doggone
4 years ago
You got it Gwest
Actually the pherenomes are injected in the exhaust of the SAC patrols - thats how it affects the whole continent.
Canis Latrans
4 years ago
Doggone
The literal translation of canis latrans, from the Latin means, dog barking, or as we would say in English, barking dog.
Who knows, we might be related brother.
A pleasure. :-)
And my sister, Lynn. Always a pleasure to be on the same page, at least, with you woman. :-)
And my hoss and I are indeed finally beginning to move to beautiful music together. Hers has been a difficult heart to win. I've just always been there and in her face, working on her all winter long.
She's a classic woman though. There's nothing easy about her. A man always has to keep on his toes, and work like a bugger to stay a step ahead, if he's gonna keep her attention, her respect, and her affections. And being nice all the time isn't the answer with horses either. At least, not this mare.:-)
Peace, love 'n revolution.
anne cameron
4 years ago
oh my sainted aunt
Rafe Mair, this is March, not April Fool's Day.
Thank you to those above who have pointed out the blood drenched history of the Excited States and the genocidal interference in South America. Add a list of just about every other country on the globe, including our own.
The Corporations control the White House, and it won't matter a whit who wins the big circus in November, the only thing which might change is the speed at which the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution are cancelled.
Years ago I read Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". Now I get to watch the same thing happening again, and not just below the 49th, it has crept up here, as well.
I have no idea why Hilary Clinton wants to be president, unless hubby told her to go for it. There are questions in her own political background which haven't been answered because hubby was Prez at the time the scandals were raised.
Raif, whatever that thing is that you wrote it is not political commentary. You have ignored (or weren't aware in the first place) absolutely millions of deaths caused by this "isolationist" nation.
Their history is one of constant bullying. [CRITICISM OF THE STORIES THAT THE TYEE PUBLISHES IS EXPECTED AND ENCOURAGED; PERSONAL INSULTS DIRECTED AT OUR WRITERS IS NOT. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DOING SO IN FUTURE POSTS. -MODERATOR.]
I would prefer Hilary be president, only because "better the devil you know than the devil you don't know".
[AND HERE. -MODERATOR.]
gardensnake
4 years ago
No substance, either with Clinton or her supporters
Well... so? There's nothing in Mr. Mair's editorial to provide good reasons why Clinton is better suited to this job than Obama.
We can hardly forget the stream of denunciations from Ireland this last month at the crass nerve that Mrs. Clinton had to take even the slightest credit for the peace settlement in Northern Ireland. Similar anger is welling up for all the work Mrs. Clinton hasn't done that she is no claiming for herself.
One by one, her claims to experience are being proven false. If you want a true test of experience for a senator, the United States is quite fastidious in their record keeping.
If you want to see what I mean go online and search for all of the bills that Hillary Clinton has authored or co-authored since her election to the US senate. Then, go search for all the bills that Barack Obama has authored or co-authored in his mere two years. What you see should be reason enough to write a detraction.
Please Mr. Mair, see the evidence of "experience" before making such bold statements.
RickW
4 years ago
gardensnake
Don't forget that it is Rafe who wants Carole James to "shake it up a little" in the BC Lege. He enjoys incendiary politics, and as such is a fan of the juvenile mayhem we can witness (should we have a moment of silliness in our lives) when we watch the House of Commons "at work".
"Thoughtful and incisive" has little room in his notion of political debate.......
lemonheart
4 years ago
Hahaha! Best joke I've heard all week!
I'll continue assuming you are smarter than this article, Rafe.
McCain is the same-same GOP "I'll smoke him out!" guy spewing the same old wigged oil money rhetoric. Let's hope they keep his *ss away from the entrance.
Clinton maybe the "safe" choice that the "Your vote doesn't count" Super delegates go with knowing folks are done with Bush and unsure about Obama. The problem with Billary is that she has been in the Washington game for a long time inlcluding being on the end of the proverbial corporate d*ck as well.
Didn't she abruptly stop campaigning for free health care after being lobbied to shut up by the pharmaceutical and medical insurance companies??????
She will be the same rapist- just a different face, outfit, and technique but same result which will include continued erosion of ANYTHING that benefits the average citizen. If memory serves me correctly it is called: taxation WITHOUT representaion. 97% of Washington is bought and paid for by corporations. Anybody had enough yet?
Obabma would be a welcome uncomfortable change. Good or bad, there needs to be a shake up of the old guard though I fear what an 80yr old Pulitzer prize winning woman was quoted as saying recently which was something like "If that fellow gets in they will assasinate him."
The trend being anyone that actually pulls together the average voter AND gives them hope of actually fulfilling the democratic dream to a place of solidarity against the staus quo corporate run government they usually take'em out. King? Lennon? Ghandi?
The US government must be aware of what consequences may arise if the overwhelming majority of votes go to Obama and the superdelegates choose to put in Clinton.
We all need to remember that governments must obey their corporate overlords and their worst fear is losing control of the people and the majority of its actions are geared toward making sure everyone is sufficiently scared enough to keep working, paying loan sharks { Banks}, drowning in consumerism, and too tired to stand up and doing anything more than complain.