Opinion

This Time, Abusers Are Lawyers

Residential school victims endure shameful legal process.

By Rafe Mair, 12 Mar 2007, TheTyee.ca

Matthew Williams

Matthew Williams. Photo by J. Windh.

When there are too many policemen, there can be no liberty.
When there are too many soldiers, there can be no peace.
When there are too many lawyers, there can be no justice.

-- Lin Yutang (1895-1976), Chinese-American writer, translator and editor.

I read Jacqueline Windh's article Survivors Wait While Lawyers Squabble two weeks ago in The Tyee with many emotions.

I was ashamed at the way the natives in the legal process she reports on were treated by the lawyers and the process in general.

I felt shame at the delays, which cost the victims so much distress and money.

I felt shame that lawyers were taking a "cut" when liability wasn't in question.

And mostly, I suppose, I felt ashamed at the profession I used to practice.

The hearings in question are to determine, from victims of residential schools, which of three categories of damages they fit into. This means that people who are now elderly must tell all about what happened to them 60 or 70 years ago. This is not only a daunting task, it amounts, as we will see, a search for evidence that forces the victim to relive his agony.

In Windh's article, Matthew Williams, a member of the Tla-o-qui-aht First Nation, sets the stage:

"Let me tell you what it's like at a hearing. I'm in a room, and there's my lawyer in front of me, an adjudicator to my right, two women from the government, and then one or two native counsellors at my side, who I've never met before and who are usually women. Each time, I'm telling this to four different women [emphasis added] that I've never seen before, and to an adjudicator who I've never seen before, trying to tell them about things that happened to me way back in 1951."

Mr. Williams's main village, Opitsaht, is just one of many native villages on Indian reserves where former Indian residential school students are waiting to be compensated for the unlawful confinements and physical and sexual assaults that took place decades ago in the schools.

"They ask me, 'What did it feel like when the priest stuck his penis up your ass for the first time? Did it hurt? Did it bleed? What did it feel like, having him breathing down your neck?' I was eight years old."

Who the hell would ask such a question? What client would permit his lawyer to act that way? The answer is that the lawyer is well trained by the system for the task of being a vicious cur for the federal government.

Litigation nation

According to the B.C. Law Society about 10,000 lawyers practice in British Columbia whereas, until a short time ago, there were only 8,000 in all of Japan. That's changing in Japan as that country rushes to join the U.S. and Canada as the most litigious nations in the world.

According to B.C. Work Futures:

"In 2000, the average annual earnings for all individuals in this occupational group [the legal profession] were $99,200. The majority (76 per cent) worked full time for the full year, compared to 43% in the general workforce, and they received an average of $107,900 in earnings, which is more than double that of the average full-time full-year worker ($44,200). The number of those employed in this occupation rose from 6,180 in 1990 to 10,100 in 2001. About two years after graduation, university graduates starting out in this profession reported an average annual income of about $74,300."

Since I left practice in December 1975, the demand for lawyers has increased exponentially and the cost of doing business has increased accordingly. When Japan got by with 8,000, it had about 125 million people, while B.C. needs 10,100 lawyers for 4 million. The United States has a million lawyers for about 300 million people. While these are approximate numbers, they are close enough to tell us that our society supports a hell of a lot of lawyers.

I know that old "when I was a boy" stuff is hard to take, but I can tell you that in the '70s you made nowhere near the then-equivalent of $75,000 after two years, the reason being, apart from partners' frugality, there wasn't the amount of business there is today.

You can't blame young people for flocking to law schools when there's so much loot to divide. The cause and the cure rests with the public, so the question becomes, how do we reduce the supply of lawyers by reducing the demand for them?

The answer is simple: to reduce the number of players you have to reduce and often eliminate the playing fields.

Fluffed up featherbedding

Some things have been done such as increasing the jurisdiction of small claims court to $25,000. They should add a zero to that and hear all personal injury claims in that most efficient system. I suppose you should have a "however" clause if a judge decides the case should be held in Supreme Court, but they should be few in number.

The Supreme Court rules, as thick as my Oxford dictionary, should be laid to rest and everyone start again. The opportunities these rules provide lawyers to run up the bill are unbelievable. They do so much of this legal featherbedding, they no longer realize that's what they're doing!

They think that adjournment after adjournment to accommodate their schedules is beneficial to the client who must pay for all the applications to the judge for a postponement.

I remember when in practice one could make an application for a creditor, such as a bank, for "summary judgment," meaning instant judgment. The rule was designed for cases where it is simply money owed and there's no apparent defence. I once told a client that I could delay this a year, by making stalling applications to a judge in chambers, and I did! If I were still at the bar, I might be disbarred for admitting this, but I'm not, and the practice was and is wide spread. Why, just the possibilities for adjournment and other contentious and fee-producing delays prior to going to trial are enough to make it unprofitable for lawyers to get on with the actual trial too quickly.

Losing sight of justice

But something else has happened. Lawyers have drifted into a lot of areas that not only don't need them, but suffer for their presence. I often used to ask, only partly tongue-in-cheek, why the hell I was an underpaid talk-show host when I could hang up my shingle again and get into the huge and flourishing aboriginal claims feast of ever fattening fees.

This, in a roundabout way, gets us back to Jacqueline Windh's story. I'm not sure if Mr. Williams had a lawyer, but if he did, he could expect to pay up to 40 per cent of the award in fees. This is madness. And it's unconscionable. There is no question of liability -- only what category of compensation each claimant fits into, determined by him remembering and recounting enormous pain. Again I go back to small claims court and suggest that any of those judges -- including retired judge Alfred Scow, an aboriginal who has made an outstanding contribution to his people -- could handle these matters quickly and fairly.

There is, of course, a place for questioning all claimants in any contentious matter. That, however, does not mean that claimants dealing with matters that occurred in their childhood should be treated by the system as if they're claiming a bogus "whiplash" case. If, in these tragic cases of abuse of children, taken from their culture by force and subjected to unspeakable acts 50 years ago, one or two are, compared to the others, "overcompensated" (how you would define that I don't know), then so what? It can't possibly be worse than moneys paid by ICBC out of our premium dollars to undeserving claimants every day of the year.

Most of all, though, there is no place for a question like, "What did it feel like when the priest stuck his penis up your ass for the first time? Did it hurt? Did it bleed? What did it feel like, having him breathing down your neck?"

Any system that permits that sort of legal brutality needs instant overhaul.

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  • marta

    4 years ago

    There has to be a Process

    But there has to be a process. We can't just say "oh all those priests and nuns were abusers." - what about their rights?
    They have the right to a fair hearing (even if they are deceased). Don't forget what happened in the Nova Scotia case where there was an absolute witchhunt of workers in the child services area.

    Are these hearings taped or is there a transcript available to see if that indeed was the question asked?

    I agree with Rafe's general point that the lawyers are making a great deal of money from people's pain and suffering.

  • Grumpy

    4 years ago

    The First Nation money-pit

    It seems, when it comes to first nations (I am politically correct this AM) issues, lawyers view it as a gold-mine. It seems billions of taxpayers dollars is keeping the law profession wealthy, while the people in need, their clients, go wanting.

  • Percy

    4 years ago

    Go back to law school...

    I guess the alternative Mr. Mair is suggesting is just to write cheques to everyone and send them in the mail. Everyone who puts up their hand. No checks, just cheques, hee hee. Isn't it just too bad that the rule of law applies to everyone, including legal process.

  • G West

    4 years ago

    Percy

    Do a little research on Tony Merchant.

    You may come to another conclusion.

  • Skywalker

    4 years ago

    Lawyers will abuse the

    Lawyers will abuse the system and prey on the most vulnerable until someone starts to write laws so that people can represent themselves. Oh I know the old saying so don't bother to repeat it. The Real Estate industry considers real estate the exclusive domain of the agents. Now we have witnessed a beginning of the Property Guys to cut through the maze and lower the exorbitant fees charged by the property pimps of the Real Estate profession. It will take that kind of step before lawyers get their comeuppance.

    Laws need to be written in plain English and the legal process simplified so that getting at the truth becomes the first priority.

    Rafe is right on. Good work!

  • thomas49

    4 years ago

    pay back time................

    Quote:
    Most of all, though, there is no place for a question like, "What did it feel like when the priest stuck his penis up your ass for the first time? Did it hurt? Did it bleed? What did it feel like, having him breathing down your neck?"
    Any system that permits that sort of legal brutality needs instant overhaul

    the so called JUSTICE SYSTEM has allowed the NASTINESS of some to be called JUSTICE

    and others call our JUSTICE SYSTEM a WORK IN PROGRESS ???

    so if it is a work in progress !!! HOW COME THINGS AIN'T GETTIN ANY BETTER ???

    it's time for the Native population to be PAID IN FULL!!!FOR ALL THE MISDEEDS VISITED UPON THEM BY THE DISGUSTING MENTALITY SHOWN BY THOSE WHO THINK THE WORLD IS THEIRS TO CONQUER...

    Harper figures he can say ...OOOOPS,SORRY to the CHINESE(MUST BE THE VOTES)

    SO ??? WHY NOT THE ABORIGINALS ???

    WHAT ????????????????????????NO VOTES!

    OH WELL ... IT'S A WHITE MANS WORLD,GUESS WE JUST GOTTA LIVE WIT IT...EH,RAFE?

  • bpither1

    4 years ago

    Almost 15 years ago I was in

    Almost 15 years ago I was in the midst of a divorce (no children or real estate) which I wanted to settle amicably. My ex wife was fine with that UNTIL she spoke with her "friends" who insisted she hire a lawyer. My ex wife brought me a multi page document to sign which was rife with obscure legalese but culminating in the exact same terms as we had verbally agreed upon. She could have easily just drawn up the document herself minus the jargon and I would have accepted ... As it turned out I signed the document in 5 minutes which really surprised the lawyer as she, of course, was hoping for a long drawn out affair. I didn't care and I didn't want to see a year of my life wasted on process. To hell with the money as it is not worth the emotional stress. Smartest thing I ever did.

  • maestro

    4 years ago

    Perspective:Spouse's friends ex-husband's brother

    Spouses' friends' ex husbands' brother...is also attached "BY CHOICE" to this broader First Nations matter, not in a Legal /Lawyer sense...but in the capacity as another Professional.

    When I asked why they stuck with this "First Nations" professional niche', I was told " What ?, and give up T-H-A-T GRAVY TRAIN " ???

    Like many problems and issues, whether they be domestic or international, they are not really meant to be solved or resolved, due either by original design, or a sub -Industry which has evolved after first identifying and then exploiting the major Cash Cow potential.

    Please keep in mind that Lawyers are a disproportional amount of the Elected Representatives . They ultimately cross over into legalized " Conflicts of Interests " by making laws that are supposed to be in the Public's interest.

    However, , when in Private Practice, these very same Lawyers milk these very laws they often also disproportionaly participated in creating while in elected office, or simply benefit their professional Legal peers.

    I doubt this First Nations "Cash Cow " will EVER be resolved... by virtue of what I feel is that it COULD actually be resolved, ......but this FN's " Cash Cow's $$$ Udder " is showing absolutely NO signs of stopping to be the mega - $$$$ Golden Goose now and in the foreseeable future.

  • maestro

    4 years ago

    G West: Provide a link to Mssr T. Merchant..

    Cetainly a flaw in the delivery of justice on what I read re Mssr. Merchant

    I once read an article about the scam of Class Action Lawsuits.

    Many Legal Firms sign up victimized clients. It could be a product liability lawsuit issue. Then they take the matter to court. Then "They" win...

    Whos' " They " ?

    " They" are the Lawyers... they skim a huge percentage ( % ) of the TOTAL settlement, but I've seen cases where their client - victims get cheques that are laughable...ie barely double digit.

    The "legalized" legal - scam is simply signing up =signing away your client rights...the Lawyers just want their greasy hooks on the percentage of the TOTAL collective settlement claim, which can be millions of $$$$.

    Nice gig eh?

  • MyBrainIsOnFire

    4 years ago

    it's a legal system

    not aways a justice system

  • Tom Lal

    4 years ago

    confusion

    we so often confuse justice and our legal system.

  • maestro

    4 years ago

    Confusion Fix

    Its supposed to be the JUSTICE SYSTEM

    Its now simply the JUSTICE I-N-D-U-S-T-R-Y.

    N/C.

  • murdock

    4 years ago

    Sounds like 'neuveau buccaneers'

    The entire background or backroom attacks of lawyers sounds like the antics of Pirates.

    Their morals are certainly the same.

  • ChrisB

    4 years ago

    What it actually is

    Our "justice" institutions exist, in practice, to maintain control of society, i.e. the status quo. If the status quo included a truly just society, most of us would be happy. We are not happy because we do not have a just society.

    We do not have a just society because the institutions on which we depend for the service of justice are completely unaccountable and do not represent the real interests of most citizens.

    The single most important reason for this - a completely rigged process for appointing adjudicators - has been the subject of a trivialized public debate for years. When we can prevail on the media to get beyond the trivialization and deal with the substance we will be on the road to recovery.

    Until then most Canadians will continue to suffer under the oppression of the Canadian Injustice Industry.

  • kootcoot

    4 years ago

    Read what Rafe says before bleating

    marta said:

    Quote:
    But there has to be a process. We can't just say "oh all those priests and nuns were abusers." - what about their rights?
    They have the right to a fair hearing (even if they are deceased). Don't forget what happened in the Nova Scotia case where there was an absolute witchhunt of workers in the child services area.
    Are these hearings taped or is there a transcript available to see if that indeed was the question asked?

    You and some of the following commentors with similiar comments don't seem to have read Rafe's post, or if you did, didn't get what he was saying. I quote Rafe here:

    "I felt shame that lawyers were taking a "cut" when liability wasn't in question."

    That means there is no dispute about who is responsible or "guilty." They are just milking the system as they divy up the settlement, with the lawyers' hands open wide for their share, not that they were abused or even had to prove much of anything, or fight for a verdict.

    As usual a great post Rafe and a truly shameful performance by a group that is supposed to have ethical practices and be a shining example of justice to the rest of us.

    IANAL

  • thomas49

    4 years ago

    Dougal Christie ???????

    We may bitch about the SHARKS but we are occasionally reminded of GREAT MEN...

    forgive me if I mispelled his name Rafe,but I would think you may have a few words about the man and the GOOD WORKS he and others dispense..

    a man we could petition the powers that be...for SAINTHOOD .

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