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Ten Questions I Posed to the Riot Review Panel
Here was my submission to the commission. How many answers will we get?
Stanley Cup Riot 2011. Photo by Jon Chiang via The Tyee photo pool.
[Editor's note: Check The Tyee later today for Bob Mackin's reporting on the riot review commission's findings, to be released today.]
So today we get the official report on Vancouver's Stanley Cup riot 2.0.
My submission to the commission asked several questions... I'm hoping all of them are answered -- though I confess... not so optimistic. Here's what I wrote...
To the Vancouver Riot Review:
I'm one of the people who believed this couldn't possibly happen again. I wrote a story for The Tyee about why this wasn't going to happen again. The day before the game I went on CBC's As It Happens, praised the Vancouver Police Dept. and said this wasn't going to happen again. And then... several hours before game seven was over... it became clear to me, and everyone I knew who was downtown, that this was going to happen, and I find it utterly baffling that everybody I know who was downtown saw this coming, but whoever was in charge of crowd control downtown apparently didn't.
These are the questions I'm hoping you'll answer.
1. I watched game six at the CBC Fan Zone, and during the second period a police officer politely informed me that my foot was on the green carpet that was part of the special emergency exit row and that if I didn't move it, I would be asked to leave. I moved my foot and was convinced the police were completely on top of things that night.
During game seven, I was told that people were freely drinking mickeys of alcohol inside the Fan Zone.
What happened?
2. During game six, friends with children were watching the game at the Fan Zone.
During game seven, friends with children were leaving the Fan Zone at the end of the first period because it was clear to them that this was not a safe place to be.
What happened?
3. During game six, fans were frisked before they were allowed in the Fan Zone.
At the start of game seven, I received a call from my girlfriend saying the Fan Zone had been closed because it was full. Minutes later she called to say that one of the barricades at the library was being removed, no one was being frisked and people were drinking openly.
What happened?
4. Who decided to take down the barricades and who decided to stop frisking people before allowing them into the family friendly zone?
5. For game six, I had my backpack searched and was patted down by a security guard in order to enter the area near the main post office.
For game seven, it appears someone was able to park a truck in front of the main post office loaded with explosives or at least accelerants.
What happened?
6. I talked to all sorts of people who left the Fan Zone -- or who felt unsafe in the Fan Zone -- well before game seven was over, people who were leaving after the first period -- not after the third.
Bluntly... Why is it that every civilian I know was able to sense trouble brewing that night -- and could sense the dangerous undercurrent from before the start of the game -- but whoever was in charge of security for the night apparently didn't?
7. And considering the fact that game seven was clearly a more significant event for the people of B.C. than any of the Olympic events including the men's gold medal hockey game -- and considering what happened in '94 -- why was the police presence at game seven clearly a fraction of the police presence we saw for the Olympics?
8. And considering the fact that the entire province was celebrating in Vancouver -- and the information to date seems to confirm that a lot of the more active troublemakers were from outside city limits -- why wasn't the province or, at the very least, the GVRD picking up part of the tab for policing something that was clearly much bigger than a municipal event?
9. Also... What was the point of closing liquor stores early if people were being permitted to drink from early in the afternoon at nearby bars?
Was anyone checking the neighbourhood bars to make sure they were following the Serving It Right guidelines that day?
10. Is there any consideration being given to charging any of those neighbourhood bars -- and I'm thinking of one sports bar in particular that I heard from several people was serving some of the same fans from noon -- with violating the Serving it Right guidelines? If any of the anecdotal reports I heard from friends and callers to AM 1040 were true, then I'm wondering why one particular sports bar on the edge of the Fan Zone isn't facing major fines and/or a license suspension.
I'm including my report on the riot that night for The Tyee which raises a few other issues.
And this is what my girlfriend wrote about her experiences and how the ugliness started long before the game was over.
If there is anything else you'd like to ask either of us about any of this submission, please feel free to contact us.
Sincerely,
Mark Leiren-Young ![]()




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Henry Dorsett Case
38 weeks ago
Lets start talking about Canada's class system
Does anyone doubt for a moment that if this crowd were poor / unionized / ethnic / other... the subduing would have been immediate if not preemptive and the charges would have been laid long ago?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=g20+toronto&aq=f
gerard
38 weeks ago
Is the entire report available?
Good questions. I wonder many of the same things, since I went to Game 5 at the CBC site, and while it was boisterous, it was fine and security was in place. I was there with two small boys and we went downtown by bicycle. It was a good evening. For the riot to begin there, inside the controlled zone, is truly inexcusable.
An 22 year-old employee of mine told me there was going to be a riot. I didn't believe her—told her that police had learned a lot since the last time. But she knew and all her friends knew.
But I'd like to see the report for myself. Is it available?
snert
38 weeks ago
Henry Dorsett Case
Sure, why not. That's as good a red herring as any.
dave0ferg
38 weeks ago
Report URL
Report is at http://www.cbc.ca/bc/news/bc-110901-vancouver-riot-report.pdf
I got to page 60 of 396 last night before mine eyes began to bleed—light blue type on white—and I fell asleep, report very soothing.
anarcho
38 weeks ago
Question 11
Question 11 - Where are the "anarchists" who the Mayor and Chief Chu said started the riot? Please show them to us - or offer an apology to the people you have slandered in the mass media
Snert - class is not a red herring - look how the peaceful G20 protesters were treated compared with the rioting hockey suburbanites. The again imagine the crowd composed of First Nations people - the bodies would be piling up once our local Gestapo got their clubs on them.
Jim DeLaHunt
38 weeks ago
Where to find the riot report
gerard asks, "But I'd like to see the report for myself. Is it available?"
One place to find it is on the city's web site: http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20110906/spec20110906ag.htm
The "City of Vancouver Internal Review of the 2011 Stanley Cup Riot - Part 1" link points to a 69-page PDF file with the main part of the independent review. The "City of Vancouver Internal Review of the 2011 Stanley Cup Riot - Part 2" link points to a 140-page PDF file with a lot of appendices.
Gerry McGuire
37 weeks ago
Read the Vancouver Charter
Gregor clearly didn't.
"Mayor's duties
208. The Mayor shall to enforce law for government of city
(a) be vigilant and active at all times in causing the law for the government of the city to be duly enforced and obeyed;"
Video record of council meeting where Ballem acknowledges the possibility of a riot before the final series even began.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL70AA048DBE74E94B&feature=viewall