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Why John Cummins Shouldn't Scare Christy Clark
BC Conservatives overrated as vote splitter for potential Lib supporters.
BC Conservative leader Cummins: cow pie magnet.
We exaggerate the potential of the BC Conservatives and their newly affirmed leader John Cummins to seriously cut into the voting base of the BC Liberals.
My experience is admittedly ancient, but in Kamloops in 1979, as a member of the Social Credit coalition, I shuddered when a Conservative entered the race. The election was sure to be close, and I didn't need to see the right wing of my party (who weren't happy with me anyway) turn to the Tories. In the result, I won handsomely and the Conservative had no impact. In our analysis, it became clear that much of the Tory support came from people who wouldn't have voted if there wasn't a Conservative to vote for. There is, then, the danger of overestimating the impact of John Cummins on the next election.
To make things better for the Liberals, Cummins has tripped over a couple of cow pies in the electoral patch and branded himself as a religious hardliner against homosexuality and abortions which had ceased to be issues until he raised them, Lazarus-like -- except Lazarus recovered.
His strength is in the Fraser Valley, where the good folks are against sex lest it lead to dancing. These good folks don't elect anyone except the occasional school trustee.
Missed chance at united effort
I am a long time admirer of John Cummins and his honesty but, clearly, he needed to satisfy the religious right in order to be leader. I had assumed, like many, that he and Chris Delaney and his BC First Party would find a common cause, then seek out Gordon Wilson to round out a centrist position.
Delaney is an interesting fellow. He has a great feel for gut issues, is well spoken and presentable. His BC First Party seems well organized, only needing formidable leadership, some money and luck to be a big factor.
Sadly, Delaney lacks the critical ingredient for success in politics -- judgment.
He was, of course, quite correct politically, to oppose the HST. His mistake was twofold -- getting involved in the recall initiatives, doing so with Bill Vander Zalm, and staying with him and the cause long after it was lost and, worse, forgotten.
Bill Vander Zalm is a good man, a likeable man and forgiving -- that he speaks to me is eloquent proof of that. On populist issues such as the BC Rail privatization and the HST he is, as the ultimate populist, superb. He attracts almost hysterical support, except that support is for that issue alone. No one wants to see him be premier again or even as a power behind the throne. Delaney doesn't understand this, and he accuses those who make this point to be holding a grudge against Gardener Bill. He hasn't understood that people like me have no reason to hold a grudge and that the remarkable and laudatory fact is that Vander Zalm bears no grudges against the media that both made him and broke him.
Delaney, in sticking like crazy glue to the recall issue, is even more perplexing, since the public has quite rightly made it clear that they won't recall an MLA just because he or she is unpopular. They see recall for what it was intended to be -- a way to get rid of bad actors who have brought disgrace to themselves and their constituency.
Where is Gordon Wilson?
The hidden factor is Gordon Wilson. In spite of some very rocky moments, Wilson is admired if not liked. He has the understanding of B.C. issues others lack. He reminds me a lot of my old boss Bill Bennett, except he smiles more. Bennett is not a bad thing to be linked to, because like or hate him he was cool and efficient. Consider what we've had since Bennett retired in 1986.
Although I have no proof of this, I think Wilson would love to be back in politics, but is surefooted enough to know that getting involved with Cummins or Vander Zalm, if only by inference, is not the way to go. He also knows that he can't resurrect his Progressive Alliance -- it never died, because it was never truly alive.
In the dying days of the NDP, Wilson joined the cabinet and the party and ran for its leadership. My prediction is that if he gets back into politics it would be with the NDP, for whom he would be a formidable force.
It looked, not that long ago, as if there was room in the "centre" for a "third party."
That moment has passed and it's business as usual -- the only force that can beat the BC Liberals is the NDP. ![]()




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fFrank
51 weeks ago
Rafe
I don't know Rafe, when the Conservatives are polling at 10% and the BC Libs under Ms Clark have fallen 5% since the last election I think Ms Clark has reason to worry about her right flank.
Everything I need to know:
Albert Einstein was a socialist. Whereas the BC Liberals are supported by Stockwell Day, a well known seadoo enthusiast who thinks there was a time when man and dinosaurs walked together...
Lawrence
51 weeks ago
Oh,Oh,
If, Rafe, you are calling Vandershovel ''a good man'' and Bill Bennett, who pissed so many people off there would have been a General Strike, if an overweight fellow hadn't sold out the progressives in this province, a good premier, I find that hard to take.
As for the MSM making and breaking Vandershovel, why yes, they made him because it's the MS Media's job to promote people of the right.
They did not break him however,he did that himself.
The story I often tell about The Shovel is the effect he had on the beautiful island I lived on at the time.
Bill, who was running Human Resourses decreed that the few single mothers who were raising their pre-school children on welfare on the Gulf Islands had to go the city or they would be cut off.
So instead of raising these kids in a little cottage, and feeding them from their gardens, these women had to go live in the slums.
That was just mean.
That's one of many reasons why I really don't like your ''good man''
Vandershovel embraces the BC Rail and anti HST thing?
Really?
He's always jumped on band wagons.
Van Isle
51 weeks ago
To me, Mr. Cummins is just
To me, Mr. Cummins is just another Stephen Harper.
alive
51 weeks ago
distorted memories
Don Cherry can not talk for five minutes withour praising Bobby Orr, and Rafe cannot write about anything without praising Bennet!
Guess the both live in the past and fail to recognize that new and different personailties exists?
Johnboy
51 weeks ago
Time warp
You seem to be locked in a time warp Rafe. Names from the past roll off the page to be read by people whom most readers have long forgotten. Seriously, if you think Gordon Wilson running for the NDP again will somehow bring conservatives away from Christy Clark, I need to remind you of his poor wife on national TV saying "I am still washing his socks." when confronted with news of his infidelity with Judy Judy Judy.
Cummins is a problem for the BC Liberals for the same reason Wilson was a problem for the SoCreds. They now have 50 constituency associations up and running, with a goal of a full slate. They are 18% in the polls and rising. One more thing he has. YOUTH is behind him. The conference this past weekend was very well organized and had a lot of very capable young politicos running the scene.
There is room on the right side of the political map when the present "right side" shuffles left.
japander
51 weeks ago
Parties earn or lose votes
I've been waiting to see these words in print (or hear them - or a variation of them) for a long time: "Tory support came from people who wouldn't have voted if there wasn't a Conservative to vote for."
The key here is that votes are earned. This can be applied to other times and places and it's still true - Al Gore in Florida in 2000 wasn't Nader's fault, for example. The Dems didn't get their vote out. Federal Lib collapse a few weeks ago was a failure on their part to light a fire. This talk of "unite the left" in Canada until recently was faulty from the get go because of this (and the fact that Fed Libs are "left" by the most very generous of definitions).
I'll believe the oft-spouted talk of vote-splitting both left and right when voter turnout starts hitting close to 80%. Until then, parties will win or lose based on their voter base and how happy/energised they are.
Cool Hand
51 weeks ago
BC Federal Conservative/Provincial NDP Voters
Back when then PC leader Vic Stephens won the 1978 Oak Bay by-election and even had funds to run TV commercials during the 1979 election. The PC's ran in 37/57 ridings but garnered only 5% of the overall provincial vote.
Where the BC Conservatives ran candidates during the 2009 provincial election also garnered interesting results.
For example:
Kootenay East
Liberal - 50.23% (+2.22%)
NDP - 36.07% (-7.65%)
Conservative - 10.06% (+10.06%)
Boundary-Similkameen
Liberal - 37.45% (-8.5%)
NDP - 32.91% (-8.1%)
Conservative - 20.16% (+20.16%)
The Conservatives took as many or more votes from the NDP v. the Liberals. Makes sense since 20% of BC federal Conservative voters voted NDP during the 2009 provincial election. (including Cummins himself)
That represents about 9% of the 42% that the NDP garnered during the 2009 election.
These voters are anti-Campbell, Reform-type voters as opposed to pro-NDP and would appear to be a target of Cummins' messaging as opposed to a more left-wing, dour messaging to be espoused by Dix.
Heck, Dix makes former NDP leader Bob Skelly come across as Mr. Charisma!
fFrank
51 weeks ago
Luke
According to Ipsos, Christy Clark has the same negative rating as Adrian Dix. I guess that means Christy has less charisma than Bob Skelly?
And here in the world of 2011, the polls show the Conservatives take votes from the Liberals more than they do from the NDP.
Not every BC Liberal is as loyal as Stockwell Day I guess. I'm hoping to see more of Stockwell, any chance the BC Libs will spotlight him?
The Kieran Report
51 weeks ago
Why John?
Good read Rafe ... pretty lucid for an old fart.
Terry J. Nanaimo
51 weeks ago
The Gordon Campbell-era BC
The Gordon Campbell-era BC Liberals are very desperate to maintain power. And it shows.
Despite virtually all Campbellites' conservative caucus support, failed Falcon and friends are forced to feign friendship with a lone Liberal leader.
Clark and co. recognize the coming of Cummins will bleed just enough serious Conservative supporters to land their Liberal Coalition in opposition.
So then, under attack from all sides, what else is a discredited, decade-old group of government power-keepers to do except revert to political shape-shifting: aka 're-definition'.
It now seems BC's Lib/Cons. will counter the Cummins' Conservatives mini-run to the right with a move to the mushy-middle. Christy is borrowing from the NDP and will appear more "like dem" ; Lib/Dems, that is.
Imagine: lowering(but not cancelling) the HST; raising corporate taxes and paying serious attention to the needs of childeren and families. Gordon Campbell must be rolling over in his hammock.
Will BC Lib/Cons succeed? Only time and the propaganda-effect will tell. After all, people can be purchased with their own money. The HST "good for you" shopping-spree is the obvious example.
The emergence of John Cummins has scared Christy Clark. And it shows.