Claimants bewildered as face to face dealings cut across country are said to save $5 million.
Laminated sign taped to the doors of the remaining Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) offices.

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The federal government shut down front desks and eliminated walk-in services in immigration and refugee offices across the country last week -- a move that has left refugee claimants and advocates bewildered.
For many landed refugees and immigrants in Vancouver, their first notice of the service reductions came in the form of a yellow, laminated sign taped to the doors of the remaining Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) offices (see photo at top of story).
The sign tells claimants to visit the CIC's website or call its automated help line to schedule an appointment.
Asylum seekers can still walk in to make a claim, but that's not clear from the sign, and that may be hampering the asylum pleas of refugee claimants, said Lesley Stalker, a prominent B.C. immigration lawyer.
The CIC changes throw another obstacle in the way of immigrants seeking help just at a time when they'll be expected to jump through more legal hoops, at a quicker pace, with a soon-to-be-approved immigration reform law -- Bill C-31 -- passing through the Senate now. The CIC says the cuts were necessary to "streamline" and modernize Canada's immigration processing system. But refugee advocates say those cuts -- and the confusion they're creating -- may fence out many genuine asylum seekers with red tape.
"The other thing that's very odd about the sign," said Stalker, "is it doesn't tell you how to make an appointment. You're told that you have to have make an appointment, but you're not told how to make an appointment and you're left in limbo."
"It kind of undercuts the purpose [of Bill C-31]", said Stalker. "The minister wants to make the process as quick and efficient as possible, but there seems to be barriers to people starting their claims."
Nineteen CIC domestic offices closed
The CIC contends the cuts were necessary.
"In order to reduce duplication and overlap, CIC is restructuring and will streamline by reducing the number of regional offices across the country," said a CIC spokesperson in an emailed response.
The response noted the CIC would keep at least one office open in each province, including the Hornby street address.
Starting June 1, Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) closed down 19 of its domestic offices -- including the ones in Nanaimo, Prince George, Kelowna and Victoria, said a CIC website bulletin. It added the remaining offices will no longer assist many walk-ins in getting help accessing government services.
The CIC expects the cuts will save $5.2 million next year.
Those cuts to services, in turn, would be compensated by a website and automated call centre, which would provided 24-hour assistance in the form of a visa wizard, video tutorials, FAQS, and "proactive messaging," said the response.
'Really hard to understand'
But for recent arrivals, a website and an automated call centre may confuse as much as help, said Kujachagulia Wayhi, a journalist who had to flee his home-country Brazil six months ago after receiving death threats.
"When it comes to bureaucratic and technical language, it's really hard to understand 100 per cent," said Wayhi.
When he saw the sign, at first, he said he didn't understand.
Wayhi said he learned about the sign from his girlfriend, who works in the building next door to the Hornby Street CIC office. When he went down to check her story, he found a small crowd gathered outside. Their reactions, he said, were similar to his. Some, like himself, stayed there for two hours trying to interpret the message.
Others, he said, stood with cell phones, trying to navigate the automated help line.
Before, Wayhi said, the front desk "had a receptionist who would answer all your questions: how to get your work permit, how to take your medical examinations, how to apply for your PIF [the personal info form where you explain why you're claiming refugee status in Canada], and how to apply for your SIN," he said.
Now, instead, of a human being, claimants are greeted by "a voice that asks you to wait, or repeats, or asks you to call another time," he said.
'Little or no warning or consultation'
"The sign on the door is just a smaller example about how cuts are made with little or no warning or no consultation, and they will have literally life or death implications for people," said Simon Fraser University psychology professor Sharalyn Jordan, who also works with Rainbow Refugees, an assistance and advocacy organization for refugees discriminated against in their home countries because of the trans, queer, or HIV status.
Currently, asylum seekers have two opportunities to claim for refugee status: once at the border or airport, or after they've settled down, at a domestic office within Canada, like the CIC's Hornby Street address, said Jordan.
The downtown office provided a main walk-in space for claimants seeking forms on health coverage, asylum claims, and a range of other immigrant and refugee services, she said.
But many asylum seekers find themselves on their own not knowing what to do, she said. They often have to visit the CIC front desk before being directed to a lawyer or a social assistance service like Rainbow Refugees. The confusion created by the sign could damage an asylum seekers claim, she added.
"Any delay raises questions: you were in the country for three months, why didn't you make a refugee claim earlier? A delay of as little as a week results in questions about of the credibility of their subjective fear of persecution," she said.
"There may be people who simply cannot start their claim and don't access the information on how to go further," she said. "Potentially," she added, that means "someone staying on undocumented or being deported back to a country where they face persecution."
Canadians are used to accessing websites and automated call centres to get info on and help with provincial health insurance premiums, student loans, and other government services. But for recent emigres, using websites and telephone systems provides an additional challenge, said Shayna Plaut, a UBC doctoral candidate working at the university's Liu Institute for Global Issues.
She says many arrivals speak English as a third or fourth language, adding the current system also assumes they have easy access to a phone or a computer terminal.
Jordan said she tried calling the 1-888 help line Tuesday and said she encountered "a fairly lengthy maze of automated phone options that you can get in either English or French."
"Then you are referred to a website where you get an even more confusing range of options," she said.
Phone frustration
To verify Jordan and Plaut's claims, The Tyee tried calling the 1-888 number to apply for refugee status itself.
"Welcome to Citizenship and Immigration Canada," said a soothing female voice.
“For service in English, press one. Pour les service en Francais, pres les deux," it said. (Excuse my French.)
I mashed one on my Smartphone.
"Effective June 30, 2012, Citizenship and Immigration Canada will be implementing changes for the eligibility and benefits of ISHP," the voice said. "To see whether you are eligible under the new rules, please visit our website at www.cic.gc.ca or select option one, select option one again, select option three, then select option two to speak to an agent."
"Huh?" I said.
"If you are calling regarding the new measures for live-in care givers in abusive situations with their current employers, select option one, select option one again, select option four, then select option three for further information," the voice continued. "Please have a pen and paper ready to write down the instructions from the phone service and other important information.
"If you wish to use our automated phone service, please choose one of the following options."
After 20 minutes on the phone, The Tyee found the most direct route to a live person was to not answer the voice. The system automatically forwards you to a call centre after the options repeat unanswered three times.
At the time of this discovery, about 4:20 p.m., the call centre was closed. The recorded voice told The Tyee to call their help-line again tomorrow for assistance.
'Walls being built'
Nearly 400,000 foreign arrivals came to Canada last year, with a majority settling within the core metro regions of Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal, according to CIC statistics. Only 25,000 claimed for refugee status in 2011, said Stalker in a Georgia Strait piece.
The vast majority of those people, documented and undocumented, came in ones, twos and threes by plane or through border crossings. But over the last few years, a small minority of immigrants have shown up unannounced by boats. In the summer of 2010, 490 Tamil asylum seekers appeared off of B.C.'s west coast. The boat people captured media headlines and led to calls for stricter asylum laws to end Canada's presumed reputation as a "soft touch" for those with dubious refugee claims.
The Tamil asylum seekers were processed at a camp set up at the Esquimalt naval base. Most are still waiting to be accepted as refugees.
Since 2010, the federal conservatives have taken it upon themselves to strengthen Canada's immigration laws by enacting new legislation. Bill C-31 is the primary thrust of that effort, said Plaut, who added it's cause for concern. The bill gives federal immigration minister power to designate countries as "safe" or "unsafe," and to appoint certain groups of immigrants as "mass arrivals."
Those additions to the bill have come under steep criticism from a multitude of sources, including prominent immigration lawyers such as Stalker, who spoke at a recent conference on Bill C-31 hosted by The Tyee.
Critics of the bill told the CBC that it would give Canadian's international reputation a "black eye" and also generate costly court challenges because C-31 is in contravention to UN Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, the Charter of Rights, and Supreme Court precedents.
Jordan added to that criticism, saying any assessment of an asylum seekers' claim needs to be done on a case-by-case basis, and general lists of "safe" and "unsafe" countries don't capture that complexity. Refugees who had to leave their home countries because of their sexual, gender, or HIV status often come from democratic and thus ostensibly "safe" countries, she said.
Ultimately, said Wayhi, the CIC office closures and service cuts come as part of a much bigger, "multifaceted" problem.
He says he is lucky, possessing a cell phone, access to a land line, decent spoken English, and a network of friends "who are very, very supportive."
Even so, he said, the office service reductions, combined with Bill C-31 and changes in eligibility to the refugee healthcare program, will make it tough for him.
"This is all changing at the same time," he said. "I'm realizing there are walls being built around me in Canada." ![[Tyee]](http://thetyee.cachefly.net/ui/img/ico_fishie.png)
Adam Pez is completing a practicum at The Tyee.
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Hakuin
1 year ago
War criminals
will continue to be welcome - so long as they aren't poor or gay or anything vulgar like that.
Fiat lux
1 year ago
Communists are most welcome
Communists are most welcome as they're brother capitalist "investors" , buying up the country and giving orders.
What these pathetic "conservative" mental cases can't come to grips with is that when they claim monetary "savings", they're transferring costs on the victims whose programs and services are cut.
In most of these "savings" and "cheaper" cases, the real costs remain the same , or vastly increased, as in case of the killing of our economy for "cheap" imports, but are paid for by others, the environment, or future generations.
The main purpose of ideology based monetary economics is to decide who, where and when will pay the real costs to enrich special interest classes. The famous 1%.
Ed Deak.
Kreditanstalt
1 year ago
We know what's really going on...
Seems to me that the governments real aim is to minimize use of this "refugee" category via the back-door method of cutting expenses to the bone and rendering it effectively unworkable.
Instead, why don't they just get the governments out of the immigration business altogether...? (And out of the border business, the airports and tariffs and customs...)
Let anyone in, anytime, provided they don't utilise government social welfare programs or break any laws...
THAT'S how you get a vibrant economy & nation!
Doug Park
1 year ago
Very sad, and "penny wise pound foolish."
This article suddenly reminded me of the moment when, as a young person and after several years studying the language, I first lived in another country with a different language than English and I had to make my first real telephone call in that language to make some arrangement or other. If it had been to an automated line spouting the kind of lengthy officialese described above, I would have been completely sunk. And as I say, that was a language I actually knew moderately well. If I had to do the same in - say - Portuguese (to turn the Brazilian fellow's situation around)...well, it just wouldn't have happened. Being able to talk with a live person face to face makes a huge difference in speeding things along on both sides, whether with or without an interpreter. I certainly saw this when on the other side of the desk, before moving to BC having working as an income assistance worker with both English and non-English-speaking clients and the latter coming from all over the world.
Well, unless of course the real goal is simply to stop people from succeeding in their applications. I guess it's positive that at least the government feels it cannot just openly say that it wants to make it difficult for refugees and other permanent immigrants to succeed but has to pretend (or perhaps really believes, foolishly) that the system will work better by eliminating live receptionists...
RickW
1 year ago
Immigration Minister Jason Kenny....
....seems to have it in for Roma (aka "Gypsies"):
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/22/efforts-to-keep-bogus-roma-refugees-out-have-failed-jason-kenney/
However:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17606004
Roma face persecution in Europe, says Amnesty
The Harper government falls all over itself supporting Israel, the Jewish state created in response to the 6 million that were killed in the Holocaust. But there were also some 2 million Roma killed in that same Holocaust. Does this mean that numbers count?
Fritz
1 year ago
Maybe Vote for Kred as Unpayed Example Setter
Once again Kred appears way ahead of the other posters here in foresightedness to get rid of government.
Why should our taxes be involved in
immigration any more at our expense because a truly ambitious foreign refugee with
desires to come here can apply to a China oil corporation for work and if worthy may come over here and work in the tar sands or its pipeline for a very generous $200 a month?
Neo Inverted Out Sourcing
The China method will also eliminate so much terrible tax payer expense in provincial agencies like Work Safe BC, MSP and social services...the list is almost endless. And when those over paid coddled government ex employees have to compete with the
"competitive" wages of the Chinese we will become a more realistic and even greater "wealth creating" country to boast to India, Mexico and Korea about.
The Genius of a Kredit-insteadinstalt Plan
These somewhat lower wages help to make the oil less expensive for Chinese investors who may then invest their profits in Canada to motivate all the dependent-on-government-
Canucks realize why there is so much more success WITHOUT pesky government tax intrusion. We could even eliminate all the MPs and MLAs, because essentially the Chinese could take care of governance for us at THEIR EXPENSE a-n-d they would NOT have to fund expensive Canadian elections anymore to "create" even more "wealth" (~_~)
I trust Kreditanstalt you will set an example by not using MSP etc and will LEAD IUSREADINSTALDT by paying for your medical and retirement needs out of your beer can recycling proceeds.
Do you have the courage of your convictions or are you just a key board gasbag? ('_')
Fritz
1 year ago
Addendum
IUSREADINSTALDT should read: INSTEADINSTALDT
Can't be helped, I am an early onset type two Alzheimer.
shadow12ea
1 year ago
Closing these offices is
Closing these offices is Stevie slime & his slimers way of getting rid of the people who worked for CIC. In time we will most likely see the slimers give contracts to their friends to provide the services.
By making it almost impossible to obtain services we will be seeing more people simply "settling" illegally. But it won't be their fault because they couldn't find out how to do it legally.
The other problem with closing all these immigration offices is who will do the enforcement. Many of these immigration offices in small areas of B.C. had immigration officers who could work with local police forces if they found criminals who were from other countries. What will happen now?
of course Stevie slime will ensure foreign corporations can bring in foreign workers to do the jobs Canadians & legitimate refugees should be doing.
Nathan B
1 year ago
Not as much of a story as it looks
Hardly a day goes by without some vitally important governmental department being cut. I believe that the current government in Ottawa has lost the mandate of the people and the support of a lot of voters who gave them their majority.
This story, though, like the one about Christy Clark phoning Gordon Campbell, isn't really a story at all, it seems to me. In this case, I consider it unlikely that a lot of would-be refugee claimants would be filing for refugee status in places like Prince George and Kelowna (from what, the weather?). I don't feel persuaded by the Tyee that the removal of refugee services in places very far from major international airports or coastlines is actually a story.
Furthermore, if too many non-story-stories come out, they will distract people from the very serious ones that do deserve ongoing comment, such as Bill C-38, for instance. I think the Tyee can do better.
jimmmmy
1 year ago
Immigration
This is one of the few areas where the feds are acting in the interests of the citizenry. Social programs need to catch up with the glut of immigrants we have already. I would go further a five year moritorium on Asian immigration for starters. As well as revising the tax code to make so called "foreign investors" pay their share.
Luck
1 year ago
COMING TO CANADA
THIS ARTICLE IS SMOKE AND SCREEN,
POLITICAL RHETORIC AND WORSE,
WE READ THAT OVER ONE MILLION PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL BE MOVING TO CANADA IN 2012,
THAT NUMBER IS TOO INCREASE IN YEARS GOING FORWARD,
IT WILL CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE OF POLITICS IN CANADA AS WE KNOW IT,
ARE YOU READY!