Confusion

Prostitution is basically turning sexuallity into a for profit activity. A grubby form of capitalism and policing it is a form of price control.The morallity stuff comes from religionists who loathe themselves and any one else who enjoys their phyicallity. So prostitutes in Scandinavia are what, safer , richer, healthier, I don't understand what point she is trying to make.

I can't even imagine anyone using this service

Haven't the guys who use prostitutes ever heard of masturbation? For the love of god, all it takes is a good magazine photo and a rag. You never get diseases and it is free.

Please tell me, who in their right mind would ever go to a prostitute? Obviously, some men have no imagination. For those who have a sense of humour, George Formby sang a very bawdy song on this subject. It is quite hilarious and not offensive at all.

He sings about having sex with a woman and all her daughters in the same ten minutes. Considering when it was written, it was bold. The title is "I'm a Wanker", and I suggest you check it out if you want a good laugh.

It might save millions in fees and STD's.

Governments Asleep in their comfort Zones

GOVERNMENTS TODAY ARE SCREWED UP, THEY WOULD RATHER MAKE WAR THAN MAKE MONEY.

IN ORDER TO COPE WITH CENTURIES OLD PROSTITUTION BUILD A BROTHEL AND REGULATE IT, TAX IT AND PROTECT THE WORKERS FROM PIMPS AND SUCH. IT AINT GOING AWAY.

IT THE SAME OLD SHIT, NOT IN MY BACKYARD. FOLKS SEX SELLING IS ALL AROUND US AND YOU KNOW IT.

SOME OTHER THINGS WE CAN TELL GOVERNMENT TO DO IS,

LEGALIZE MEDICAL MARIJUANA. THIS ALONE WOULD BRING IN BILLIONS OF TAX DOLLARS PER YEAR.

LEGALIZE ALTERNATIVE ETHANOL FUELS. MY FRIEND HAS AN IDEA FOR ETHANOL FUEL THAT WOULD HELP FARMERS AND CREATE EMPLOYMENT ALONG THE WAY. GOVERNMENTS SLOW TO ACT OR RESPOND BECAUSE OF ALL THE INFIGHTING GOV. HAS CREATED AMONGST THEMSELVES.

BUILD A REFINERY NEAR PRINCE GEORGE TO REFINE FOSSIL FUELS. IT IS CRAZY TO SEND RAW MATERIALS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY FOR NEXT TO FREE.

SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE GOVERNMENTS THAT CANADIAN PEOPLE ARE ONE OF THE MOST ENTREPRENEURIAL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD WITHOUT GOVERNMENT SUPPORT.

HEY GOVERNMENT WAKE UP AND GET IN THE KNOW AND MAKE MONEY. HELPING THE BRAINS OF OUR COUNTRY CREATE JOBS IS EASY TAX DOLLAR RETURNS.

FOR A GOVERNMENT(S) ACROSS OUR COUNTRY THAT ARE NEAR BROKE ARE HAVING REAL PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING THE WEALTH THAT IS WAITING TO BE CREATED RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES.

PLEASE DONOT PRIVATIZE LIQUOR STORES. THIS BRINGS IN A FEW BILLION A YEAR IN TAX DOLLARS.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS OPEN LIQUOR STORES 7 DAYS PER WEEK FROM 8:00 AM TO MIDNITE. THIS WOULD CREATE A FEW BILLION MORE DOLLARS.

PEOPLE WANT TO DRINK SO LET THEM.

FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED REHAB OFFER IT. rEHAB IS CHEAPER THAN HAVING POLICE KEEP BUSTING THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. tALK TO THE POLICE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.

PEOPLE GET MORE INVOLVED IN YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. A VERY WELL KNOWN ADVOCATE ONCE TOLD US THAT IT TAKES ONE PERSON TO CREATE GOOD CHANGE AND FOR THE PEOPLE TO BACK IT TO REALIZE IT.

COME ON 99% POOR PEOPLE LETS AIM AT GETTING THE 1% RICH PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PEOPLE AT LARGE IN BC AND CANADA WIDE.

Hi Luck:

I agree with most everything you say, but dfoes it need to be in upper case?

Canadian bureaucrats decided years ago to tei us all p in knots. as a result, everything in this country is screwed up, from the school system, the fisheries, to the entire legal system. What we need is to fire the folks that make their living dreaming up rule to fit an entire continent and deal with our problems locally.

The snag is that in BC, about 74% of the electorate didn't even know there were municipal elections last year. How do you change the rules when apathy reigns?

Apathy is the reason that most politicians can line their own pockets so efficiently.

As for prostitution, it is a dirty industry

I don't need to know about it. As long as it doesn't touch me of my family, I don't care.

Out of sight, out of mind

"I don't need to know about it. As long as it doesn't touch me of my family, I don't care."

Granville, it is exactly that attitude that led to the deaths of dozens of street prostitutes by a serial killer. Most citizens didn't care at all that women were disappearing and that attitude was reflected by the VPD and the RCMP. I know because I was there on the frontlines along with other advocates, trying to protect vulnerable, marginalized women. Many residents, helped by the police, picketed and protested and pushed prostitutes into a dangerous industrial area where they were at even greater risk of violence.

Out of sight, out of mind, just how you like it, apparently. But that whole ugly affair has tainted the citizens of Vancouver, and so in that sense it does touch your family.

BLAME THE JOHN

That Nordic model is only a surface answer which does not look very deep into the real problem with prostitution.

Why do married men with wives patronize prostitutes? For thousands and thousands of years when men were not raping and pillaging they were availing themselves of prostitutional priveleges.

That is those whose wives were not already taking care of them.

Look to the reasons behind sex for sale, it's not just the money for the seller it's something even more profoundly human for the buyer.

Not Going Away

When men say prostitution is here to stay doesn't that just mean they are going to keep exploiting women no matter what we say or do? Are there any men who believe it's wrong to exploit women (and men) for sex? I want to hear from them.

@ElizabethP

"When men say prostitution is here to stay".

Why not "When (women) say prostitution is here to stay. We are all beasts of the same species, if only those dam women would stop enticing men so that they could have babies maybe men would leave them alone.

One problem might stem from the fact that a man marries a woman, she then has a baby and the man finds himself married to a mother. Some men themselves in need of a woman and therefore seek one outside of the marriage bed.

Of the two sides of the coin the male side is the easiest to blame as that is where historically the power resides.

Now if women ran the world?

take away the desperation

And you take away the dangerous sex because desperate people do desperate things and dangerous people will always seek them out.
Working women who have connections live the life while these women face death and it just isn't right. I'm all for profit but this wasn't about gain but pain and trying to rub it out, a life time. Keep it out of homes and away from children it is no life.

It hurts us all

It was a very traumatic for women in general, no one felt safe and for a society to condone the sickness that occurred on the Pickton farm is not true.
People were worried about the content and how it might affect their children and there where media bans. The killing of 50 women is no little event as unsolved mysteries finds a story in Vancouver that hits home.
If putting women behind closed doors where no one can see them solves the issue they are badly mistaken. It makes it more dangerous because guys like Pickton now know where they live.
It is about a safety net with gaping holes and prejudice and women who missed out and who are in need of help not legislation that ignores the apparent dangers of taking it behind closed doors.

granville your a funny guy

for someone who dosen't want to know anything about what prositutes are doing you sure spend your places where that is all that is talked about

luck

Sex has been bartered from the beginning of time. Some women want marriage, some women want a good time and others the favors that go along with it and the guys well its what they think about all the time. The laws in place haven't stopped it from happening because it would be stepping over the line no matter why people do it. Some women have sex to shut the person up,some women want to get it on, some women have a debt, some women get worn down, and others have been used and abused until it dosen't matter anymore and their addiction needs a cure. All of these women have a right to safety.

Well I do not agree!

Look people: if it was not for the male sex-drive we would not exist today!

Men still have that strong drive, but have to "bargain" with a willing female to get a relaese, and sorry masturbation is not a solution every time!

Most men bargain by means of "being nice", others hate that idea and prefer to have a plain business transaction instead.

That does not involve violence or degradation to whoever is inclined to sell her services; in fact often it is considered better than slaving for a hamburger chain.

So can we please get things in perspective, and quit being so damned superior!

I'd like to hear views of the

I'd like to hear views of the experts on this matter as to how to improve worker safety and avoid exploitation wages. The experts i'm thinking of are the buyers and the sellers of the commodity(ies) involved, plus those with experience with workplace safety. I realise such measures don't always work well (consider farm workers), but we need to get beyond picking apart existing laws and also parroting known "solutions."