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Here comes the New City Market, reviving this city's historic 'food hub' of a century ago.
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According to the business plan, leasing the space for events will be the most profitable aspects of New City Market, earning 72 per cent of the anticipated $90,340 that the NCM will earn in its first year of operation, 2014. (As a corporate non-profit, in years where revenues are higher than expenses, New City Market profit would be used to maintain a short-term reserve fund and a long-term endowment fund for various food security initiatives.)
The facility will also include a 4,000 square foot commercial kitchen, which can be leased to small businesses or other interested parties that want to do food preparation or processing; a 3,000 square foot eatery, which will be expected to be leased to a yet-undetermined restaurant partner; 27,000 square feet of office and meeting space to be leased out; and an 8,000 square foot warehouse (including 5,000 square foot cooler and 1,500 square foot freezer) space.
This warehousing part of the market will serve as an aggregation and distribution hub; a way for small and medium farmers to combine produce and fill large wholesale orders.
Stott calls this part of the market a "really exciting development." He says having a third-party distributor is key -- New City Market doesn't want to be in the business of trucking boxes -- and points to Gordon Food Services, for example, as a potential customer that could pick up pallets of apples, carrots, lettuce and other produce in one spot, without having to deal with the logistics of invoicing three different farmers.
Chris Bodnar is co-operator of Glen Valley Organic Farms in Abbotsford. Glen Valley does direct sales through a CSA, retail sales at farmers' markets in Vancouver, and wholesales to Discovery Organics.
He points to Discovery, as well as Biovia and Pro Organics, as wholesale distributors that are dealing exclusively in wholesale organic already. Vancouver has an even greater number of distributors outside of organic. Bodnar thinks having another player in the Lower Mainland doing something similar "runs the risk of watering down everyone else's sales."
"The aggregated sales seems to have become a real selling feature for New City Market," says Bodnar. "This is coming out of what this group [local food first] has identified as a need in the local food market. I haven't seen a lot of outreach to farmers to explain the concept or get them on board."
That said, Bodnar says he has faith in the plan for a food hub in Vancouver and can see aggregate sales being successful if done in a way that make sense for farmers -- he suggests an auction model, similar to the Elmira Produce Auction in Ontario, where buyers come in looking for case lots of specific items.
Another farmer from Mission who vends at Vancouver markets (and asked not to be identified) said he would "absolutely not" use an aggregation service. He grows primarily for restaurant clients, sells whatever is leftover at farmers' markets, and if there is a major surplus of something, sells it wholesale to Discovery Organics. While the farmers' market is good public relations, he says, he makes very little of his overall profit there.
He says he doesn't need help distributing -- demand for his product is outstripping supply. His biggest problem is finding skilled labour on the farm to help meet that demand.
Market in progress
One thing all the farmers this reporter spoke to were enthusiastic about was a permanent home for the market. "That's one of the big things we would like to see," says Bodnar. "Right now the unfocused nature of farmers' markets, in terms of lack of long-term assurance of location is, I think, a problem.
But it remains to be seen whether other aspects of the food hub will work for farmers, a group of people, admits Bodnar, that can be difficult to organize ("herding cats" is how he described it.)
Stott and McDonald emphasize that the preliminary business plan is just that: preliminary. If the aggregation service, for example, doesn't seem like it will work the way it's laid out now, they can rework it, or scrap it altogether, says Stott.
In the coming weeks, they intend to roll out the plan (online, and through workshops) and gather feedback from farmers, the public and other interested stakeholders.
"That's the next stage, to give the opportunity to show this to people who are interested, to have those in-depth conversations," says Stott. "With this preliminary business plan, we're trying to give them something to get a hold of."
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Colleen Kimmett writes about food, sustainability and agriculture for The Tyee Solutions Society and others.
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wendyjane
1 year ago
Preliminary Idea
As a preliminary idea, this seems a good one. Hopefully the organizers will indeed rework it as promised after they get input and feedback from farmers. The whole concept of a permanent indoor local food hub is pretty exciting, especially as a place where residents and restaurants can go to get fresh local food. The input of farmers, however, really is crucial. Perhaps the organizers "went public" with this a bit too soon and are just getting some "bad press" about it because they're not yet quite finished their homework. It sounds like the ideas are there, but not the final details. I personally hope it will come to fruition in a way that will be supported by local farmers. It could be a wonderful thing for the Lower Mainland.
Lawrence
1 year ago
Excellent Idea
The problem with the Vancouver Farmer's market is they've always thought small, for example it's the only market I know of that once you jury in you have to scramble to get enough quality show dates to make it worthwhile to belong to their market.That's because they're far too small,and stuck in their ways.
The best shows in BC, Whistler, Ladner and Saltspring give you all the dates you ask for once you're in. That's because they're big enough.
The very small shows the Vancouver farmer's market put on along with the very small ammount of parking means you get far fewer people coming to the show than you normally would.
What this means is the crafters at their shows don't make enough money to keep coming and so they move on to better venues.
Just take a look at the crafters at any of the poor shows in the lower mainland, for example, Vancouver, West, and North Vancouver,Squamish and Port Moody, these folks are impoverished not to mention moody, and their product is low quality
Contrast this to the shows in Portland, they put on six large shows a week and the food and crafts are brilliant.
It all has to do with using you imagination to get the public on site and happy with what they see when they get there.
Oh and did I mention parking. the VFM will tell you the skytrain will figure into the equation and that's why they seem to justify that nasty little show on terminal avenue.
People want to buy their potatoes,carrots, , and craft and put it in the trunk of their car not struggle into the sky train with their squeaky little cart.
Fish-counter
1 year ago
What are the objectives of the food sustainability groups?
I would like to know what percentage of our food they think we should be growing. On Vancouver Island, it is often said that we grow and prouce 6% of our own food at present. Clearly that renders us vulnerable to ferry disruptions and earthquakes, but how much of our food should we grow?
We can't grow it all, without major shifts in land use and consumer habits. What fraction would be acceptable and do-able?
I am all for nice, comfortable farmers markets and gardens full of vegetables but there may be a price. In Lantzville, one residential gardener wants to spray raw steer manure on his garden. His neighbour does not appreciate the smell and he has made complaints to Council. It is raising quite the stink, in more ways than one. The bottom line as far as I am concerned is that the one urban gardener wants to make money selling his garlic and the manure is the way to do it.
This is the kind of bad rap that urban gardening doesn't need. So again, what are our objectives and are they acheivable?
By the way, our bylaws tend to inhibit farmer's markets and they need to be changed. Retailers need not worry about their profit margins, because if we only produce 6% of our own food, that is a drop in the bucket. It may rise to 7% with a lot of work.
FOS
1 year ago
Preliminary
Like the guy said, the plan is preliminary. I think any criticism of this process or the New City Market is a little premature at this point. So some people haven't been consulted yet, these things take time and groups like the Farmers Market are small and have limited resources – cut them some slack. It sounds like they are opening up the process soon.
I think the New City Market shows a lot of promise and I can see no reason to expect anyone to have all of the answers so early in the process. If you have a legitimate complaint or doubt I find it hard to believe your expertise, or even your opinion, would be unwelcome.
zanyjudy
1 year ago
Hours of Service
I work on weekends, and find that the small but lovely 'Organic' Farmer's Market in the parking lot of the Unitarian Church at 49th and Oak to be wonderful, in that it is open from 3:00pm to 7:00pm on WEDNESDAYS!
As well, many of the vendors are really helpful and charming which makes the cost of these delicious products to be more palatable in more ways than one!
Also, I am not clear as to where this new facility will be located. If it's awkward to get to, ie lots of traffic, little parking or expensive parking, then I will not participate in this initiative, noble as it may seem.
chris Semrick
1 year ago
correction to Fish Counter
I've spent many hours helping out on Compassion Farm and buy all of my potatoes, garlic and squash from Dirk. He has built up several feet of dark soil on what was essentially a gravel pit by composting wood mulch from landscapers and horse manure from a local stable. He has never sprayed raw steer manure - and while fresh horse manure does smell when first dumped, the smell quickly dissipates. I would ask you to take a tour of the farm before you pass judgement.
Please watch this short video featuring Dirk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEYnX3-I0TA
chris Semrick
1 year ago
my personal objective
My personal objective in the sustainable food movement is to localize my food as much as possible. I shop at the local Farmer's Market all summer and each week I buy a little extra to store for winter: http://www.synergymag.ca/storing-food-for-winter/ .
It is a process we have been working on for several years now. Last Wednesday was the last market for this year and my wife and I hope to avoid shopping (except for milk and cheese) until March.