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In BC, We're Losing Our Gambling Fever

British Columbians are playing fewer BC Lottery Corp. games, and support for gambling is dropping.

By Stanley Tromp, 17 Feb 2011, TheTyee.ca

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British Columbians are playing fewer of the BC Lottery Corporation's games, less than half know where its profits go, and few have faith in programs to help problem gamblers.

These were the some findings of a Sept. 2010 BCLC Gaming Watch Report by Research and Incite Consultants, from a poll taken in the first three months of last year, obtained by The Tyee under the freedom of information law. During this period, the BCLC announced it would launch its online gambling PlayNow.com site, and it helped to sponsor the Vancouver Olympic Games.

There were some positive notes as well. "Impressions of BCLC show a positive uplift this quarter," following the sharp decline experienced in the previous quarter, partly due to public support for the Olympics. Most of the negative results came when numbers were compared to those of a year earlier.

Some key points from the survey:

Eight out of 10 play. Eighty per cent of British Columbians participated in at least one BCLC game in the past year, and 20 per cent of those with Internet access visited the BCLC.com website in the previous month or more often.

Popular with the young. Younger people had very positive views of BCLC and gambling in general, higher than all other B.C. residents, yet were less aware of the support BCLC provides to the province. Residents in southwestern B.C. had the lowest trust in BCLC overall.

Rising worries about gaming. While criticisms of retailer integrity issues are continuing to decline (a reflection of the drop in media interest in this topic), there has been a steady increase in anti-gaming sentiments and concerns that gambling causes social problems. There were also negative public perceptions due to media stories of "kids being left in cars, casinos targeting seniors."

Dim view of cuts to charities. For those indicating their perceptions are now more negative, the cuts in funding for charities and the increase in the weekly wallet limit on PlayNow.com (from $120 to $10,000) are the main reasons cited.

There has been a decline in mentions that BCLC supports worthwhile causes -- likely a result of the freezing of gaming grants in the third quarter of 2009-10.

Confusion about who benefits. Only 40 per cent of British Columbians felt informed about "where the BCLC money goes," unchanged from before.

'A declining share of wallet.' There was a significant drop in participation for BCLC games in 2009-10 compared to 2008-09, as frequent and infrequent players are participating in fewer games. "As such, each game is competing for a declining share of wallet." Sales for Lotto 6/49 and BC/49 dropped due to the rising sales of Lotto Max.

The trended decline in recency of casino visitation across fiscal year 2009-10 is a reflection of lower participation in gaming in general, "rather than cannibalization from other BCLC Games" such as CGCs (Community Gaming Centres).

Strong faith in fairness. Consistent levels of agreement that lottery and bingo gaming is run fairly and honestly across the four quarters in 2009-10. The decline in agreement that casino gaming is run fairly and honestly appears to have stabilized in the last three quarters following the sharp decline in the second quarter of 2009-10.

Addiction measures doubted. Eighty per cent of British Columbians are aware there is a program to help problem gamblers, and yet "few residents are confident of the preventative measures surrounding problem gambling."

Agreement that it is up to each individual to control their own participation in gaming has declined significantly in this quarter compared to the fourth quarter of 2008-09.

The entire Awareness and Participation Levels section for the BCLC online PlayNow site (and parts of other sections) was blanked out under the FOI law's section 17 -- financial harm to government. The Tyee has appealed this exemption to the B.C. Information and Privacy Commissioner.

This was final quarterly report of the Gaming Watch, for which 3,000 phone interviews were done per year, with 750 per quarter, and 58 per week. It has been replaced by the "Market Insights Monitor" (which The Tyee is also seeking to access).

The Gaming Watch study was designed to provide BCLC with an ongoing measure of performance across all areas of the gambling business, and to give an early warning system of potential challenges and opportunities. BCLC has sponsored such attitudinal tracking studies since the early 1990s.  [Tyee]

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  • Wake Up

    1 year ago

    Is this really our conscious choice for a society?

    First they started a lottery program
    But I didn’t speak up,
    Because it was fun to dream about winning.

    Then, they shared their lottery money with schools and charities
    But I didn’t speak up,
    Because it would be good to use taxes to pay for something else worthwhile.

    Then, they set-up casinos and encouraged online gambling,
    But I didn’t speak up,
    Because there would be jobs, excitement and more tourists.

    Then, my sister, my grandmother, my hair dresser and my neighbours got hooked, lost all their money, their families and their reason, and the government stopped funding the public good,
    And by that time it was too late to speak up and stop the madness, because the insidious addiction of gambling creeps up and becomes literally impossible to beat – like coke or crack or heroine – even when it starts out for fun and a good time.
    Will I speak out now?
    …inspired by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945

  • alive

    1 year ago

    statistics, blah!

    I suspect they got their numbers on people using the site, even once, because they had a promotion where they basically gave you $100 for signing in on-line!
    I did and thank you, money is always welcome, but there is no way I would participate using your regular odds!
    That was a promotion effort, just like the freebees from any other institutions trying to snare you in.
    No matter how you promote your schemes they are addictive and serve no good.

  • pianosaurus rex

    1 year ago

    a concious choice for this and other governments

    “Addiction measures doubted. Eighty per cent of British Columbians are aware there is a program to help problem gamblers, and yet "few residents are confident of the preventative measures surrounding problem gambling."

    This is no surprise. Anyone who fully understands addictions knows the “environmental factor.” The addicted, after self-help, counseling or detox, if placed back into the same environment or located near access to that environment, this will trigger the same response; that being further addiction problems.

    Addiction problems come in many forms, but the result is always the same; the addicted and their neighbourhood communities circling the drain slowly…………

    All one has to look at is the Main and Hastings street neighbourhood to see the eventual outcome of “an addicted life.”

    Ever been to Atlantic City and walked about six blocks from the boardwalk? Quite revealing....

  • PepperGirl

    1 year ago

    Tinkering with the Odds

    I suspect the "decline in agreement that casino gaming is run fairly and honestly" had a lot to do with the fact that the government changed (lowered) the win rates. That meant a lot fewer people were winning.
    The odds are already in favour of the house, so tinkering with these odds to make them even more one-sided, coupled with the fact that less money actually goes to charitable causes (instead of general government revenues) just speeds up the process of hoovering money out of players' pockets.
    No wonder people are disenchanted with our current government. Let's try making a few decisions that are actually in the interests of British Columbians, shall we?

  • Conductor274

    1 year ago

    government revenues

    Government revenues are now dependent on gambling. Their ability to run the province is in large part paid for by gambling money so what happens to BC if a majority of people stop gambling? Just like a junkie needs his/her heroine our government needs it's gambling money. A perfect storm is gathering in our country over this issue. Seniors have their nest eggs which they spend at the casinos but what happens when they are tapped out? The younger generations are being held to minimum wage standards and the cost of living keeps going up so they don't have disposable income to spend in casinos. Soon the demographic that supports gambling will drop at which time our government will have to raise taxes to run the country or they can do what Campbell and Harper are doing and just run us deeper into debt. Either way we are on a collision course with poverty.

  • cboo44

    1 year ago

    People will gamble

    Just like problem boozers, dopers, etc. Prohibition in the U.S. didn't work, they got booze from Canada, lots of fortunes were made smuggling booze South, Lots of fortunes being made smuggling BC Bud to the South. If we didn't have casinos, everyone would be headed South to native/mob-run casinos in Washington State.
    So, gambling is evil. What's new? Try not to get stomped on by the rush of betting patrons at Hastings Park or Cloverdale.
    If walking into a casino is an individual choice, why is it the taxpayer's responsibility to deal with the affects ?
    The only issue I have with gambling in this province is this corrupt, dishonest government constantly changing the rules for charity funding by BCLC. But then what ISN"T dishonest and corrupt about this government?

  • Fish-counter

    1 year ago

    Gambling 101: deal with the corruption.

    There ought to be a public service announcement on TV. It would have the pictures of the the prime minister and all the provincial premiers on top, with the caption underneath:

    "THESE MEN ARE ADDICTED TO GAMBLING"

    Using gambling as a means to raise funds is the start of an industry corruption and misery. Yes, people will gamble. but do we need a guvmint that profits from video gaming terminals in public spaces?

    I am not in the least surprised that retailers have been caught cheating the lottery systems. Anyone who works in a retail store must suffer boredom. They have hours and hours to think about ways to keep winning tickets, instead of telling their customers they won. Who wouldn't do it?

    Who would have thought that casinos would NOT be used for money laundering? What else is new?

    So there is a loss of interest in lotteries and gambling. Wow. What a shocker! The next step is that the money-losers are cancelled and the revenue they generated will be raised by increasing taxes.

    Casinos belong in places like Las Vegas where only the hardened gamblers go to lose their money. Having one in every city is opening the door to hell for addicts.

    Look folks; if you want to raise money, go get a job or start your own business.

    (Warning; sarcasm coming up)
    To the politicians; if you want to breed corruption, put your wives to work on the streets. You can pimp them out yourselves. They could generate $1,000.00 a night if you work them hard. If they get tired, feed them drugs. When they are burned out, toss them and set your daughters up in The Oldest Profession. There is a market for under-aged girls. If you don't like this idea, don't sell crime to the rest of us either. If you are going to be a whore, be a good whore.

  • jimorsheryl

    1 year ago

    Of course

    Gambling 'support' is falling off, after all the segment of society that 'supported' gaming are just now running out of money, and perhaps are realizing you really can't come out ahead, because the odds are simply against you.
    As my father-in-law would say when he bought his weekly lotto tickets "time to pay my tax on stupidity". In spite of this knowledge he still kept on buying. Never did win. Just kept on buying.
    Sound familiar?
    Governments are totally dependent on what they used to jail gangsters for: alchohol, tobacco, gambling, about the only few left would be pot and hookers ...... think it can't happen?? Think again.

  • Blake

    1 year ago

    Just Imagine!

    Yes, just imagine winning a whole lot of money by gambling our government tells us in adds and posters with catchy tunes and smiling faces. You know there is something wrong when the best advise a government can give its people is to go out and gamble. Gambling is a way for criminals to prey on the weak and vulnerable in society, feeding like parasites from those who can least afford it. I guess this is the only thing left for a failing state to do. Once you've sold off all of your public services and pawned in all your resources, the only thing left to do is scrape the bottom of the barrel for scraps.

  • pianosaurus rex

    1 year ago

    tips for spending that windfall

    Below are some helpful hints on how to spend your gambling winnings wisely;

    If you spend the money at Wal-Mart, the money will go to China or Sri Lanka.

    If you buy gasoline the money will go to the Arabs.

    If you purchase vegetables it will go to Honduras Mexico and Guatemala.

    If you buy an efficient car the money will go to Japan or Korea.

    If you purchase trinkets the money will go to Taiwan.

    If you pay down your credit cards or buy stocks, the money will go for management bonuses and be hidden offshore.

    Instead keep the money in Canada by;

    Spending at yard sales or

    Going to hockey games or

    Spending it on a hooker or

    Beer or

    Tattoos.

    (These are the only businesses operating in Canada any longer)

    So the conclusion is; go to a hockey game with a tattooed hooker you just met at a yard sale and drink beer all day.

    No need to thank me for the assistance……

  • Mikemah

    1 year ago

    gambling

    You will notice a huge increase in advertising by the lotto corp. now that they see declining revenues. On some tv channels the adds run from when the channel comes on the air until they sign off. Are there no rules ? And I would bet that the Execs are giving themselves pay increases over and above their already gross overcompensation packages now. But heh they are all Gordon Campbells buddies.

  • MichaelT

    1 year ago

    YES TO CASINOS!

    Enough of the liars pretending to care and not simply coming straight up and saying, "we're xtian and we don;t believe in casinos and everyone should be banned because as a believer I need everyone else to do Exactly like me"

    Listen no one is preventing you from migrating to Alberta or one of the praire provinces.

    Oh and 100% the majority of opposition to this is from people who do not live in the neighbourhood or even the city of Vancouver.

    The poker room is one of the best thing in city.

  • greengreen

    1 year ago

    Vulnerability = Opportunity

    I was concerned the other day, when researching the drug Wellbutrin, that at the bottom of the page was an advertisement promoting the B.C. Online Gambling site. This drug is an anti-depressant, used by those suffering from depression. Those suffering from depression face struggle daily and may look to "fixes" to end their misery-booze, illegal drugs, gambling. It made me feel warm and cozy all over that our government saw fit to advertise the gambling site on the medical information site for Wellbutrin. Never miss an opportunity to raise a buck, especially on the backs of the vulnerable !

  • rantnic

    1 year ago

    THE ODDS ARE "You Will Lose"

    My only safe bet is that the gamblers lose and the government will steal. If I bet $100 at 100 to 1 odds that the provincial government would lie to me (us) in the next three months I could feed a family of 4 for almost a year on my winnings. So does anyone want to take my bet?

  • Fish-counter

    1 year ago

    Put the soldiers on Parliament Hill and send the politicians to

    Afghanistan. How do you like the odds that this would ever happen, Rantnic?

    John Baird would make a great Squaddie in the Wadi. He likes to rant, so let's send him somewhere hot. We could good all gamble on how long he would last in-country.

  • cc2005

    1 year ago

    Gambling

    No folks are just seeing that it is all crooked and tired of giving away money with little chance of winning at all. Like Lotto Max it ran and first two time it never was won till it hit 50 million and every time it did right away somebody won. This has happened too many times and on top of that with odds being 1 in 2 million of winning any of the extras WOW some how they where all won ever time. Think it was rigged I do you couldn't even watch draws live it all taped now how hard is that to rig. and as far as security being in on anything dirty in my opinion OF course they are

  • cc2005

    1 year ago

    Gambling

    One more thing where are the revenues going if are resources and gaming where profits where used properly we wouldn't have people on streets and disabled starving, right now disabled get what welfare folks should get $867 for whole month and they grab back CPP out of it too. that's right your CPP is deducted from that amount so it is useless to you. Oh unless your rich or got money stashed away. try living on that when rents start at 650 a month so $217 to live on for whole month lol I am going to kill myself it easier then being disabled in BC just be dead [THREATENING COMMENT REMOVED. -MODERATOR.]

  • RickW

    1 year ago

    Conductor274

    Quote:
    A perfect storm is gathering

    After a decade of de-industrialization, the government has come to rely on gambling (and alcohol, tobacco - and for all we know BC Bud). Only trouble is, people out of work can play les and less often, in this Best Place on Earth.

  • OwlRol

    1 year ago

    As one friend said, Lotto 6

    As one friend said, Lotto 6 49, etc., is a tax on the stupid. I think its OK to dream once or twice a year for $20.

    Right on pianosaurus rex. "Addiction problems come in many forms, but the result is always the same..." This includes the downtown towers' financiers who can't stop trying to make more money well beyond their own and family needs, and ego driven, power addicted politicians who have lost the notion of trying to govern for the greater good.

    Remember those Friday night poker games with, mostly the boys? Now technically illegal but not really enforceable, except at Legions or gaming clubs. $50 (perhaps $100 today) was an evening's entertainment; sometimes you lost, sometimes you won, mostly you broke even depending on your skills and luck. But, for the most part, it was a social event with some bragging rights among buddies.

    This is only sometimes so in casinos, certainly not on "one armed bandits" or VLTs and mostly alone on internet sites, govt. or otherwise.

    A friend who worked for a while at an offshore internet gambling site ranted to me about what a scam it was. Think-who sees the cards on all the screens, feeds bets, etc.?

    That BCLC on line gambling TV commercial is truly disgusting as it invites you to join in person with those beautiful, happy people that really don't exist there at your computer's side. Solitary hell.

    Worse yet is any govt. that promotes this mega gambling as a centrepiece of a community and a major revenue source. Those should be voted out ASAP. They are not helpful in the least, regardless of funding causes that need to get support by other means.

    I suspect that the gambling decline has more to do with the Great Recession than changes in citizens' awareness and attitudes, but I won't shed tears if the mega casinos fail, although I would like to see most of their employees find other, more wholesome jobs.

  • Dale Perkins

    1 year ago

    Stanley Tromp gives us good investigative journalism

    The BC Liberal Government has deceived us on the gaming/gambling file since they took office. Remember their election promise then - NO expansion of gambling if they were elected government. Since then they have doubled their take (from about $500 million to $1 billion), increased the number of casino licenses, doubled the number of slot machines located in all entertainment (sic) venues, cut the funding to non-profits and community groups out of this revenue source, and played loose with the so-called education, prevention and treatment resources available to those with a gambling problem. They have denied the Chief Medical Officer the authority to give statistics on the number of gambling-related suicides and personal bankruptcies (unlike other provinces). On every front their performance has been abysmal. Thanks to good journalism such as Tromp's we may eventually shame these neanderthals into doing the right thing - stop government from being the primary pimp of the gambling world.

  • elizaolson

    1 year ago

    Gaming

    The cut-backs to charities stunned a lot of people. Some of them used to buy lottery tickets knowing that it was unlikely that they would win but they thought the money was going to a good cause.

    When you realize your money is going to invest in casinos for for-profit gaming companies, the desire to drop a few bucks for charity doesn't do it for you when you discover the charity is a casino company.

    It was always a mystery as to how the funds were divided among charities. Now the mystery deepens even more.

    Gaming came in on the backs of charities. Gaming companies wanting to expand would go to the local charities, service clubs and non-profits and urge them to get out support their plans.

    Now all these people feel cheated big time. It doesn't encourage you to drop by the local casino and drop a few dollars.

    I haven't been to a Los Vegas Casino in years but the food and entertainment was reasonable. Here it is so expensive and in some cases not that exciting, that dropping by for lunch or dinner doesn't inspire you.

    Gaming has and will always be with us. Bringing it out of the church basements was supposed to help control it and bring some benefit to charities.

    Charities are receiving less funding now than in 1995. Back when the evil NDP was in and the righteous Gordon Campbell vowed to stop its expansion if elected Premier!

    In 1999 the NDP came up with an agreement where charities were guaranteed 33.3% of net proceeds. This agreement was the foundation agreement for 2002.

    Since then the Liberal government has only honoured the section giving cities and municipalities the agreed amounts. It has been continuously whittling to amount to charities to the point it is about 10-12%

    My question is this? If the agreement is not binding as Falcon and company say, why are they honouring the section to the cities and municipalities?

    It is time we held the politicians feet to the fire and demand they honour their agreement to the charities.

    One person estimates charities are owed $1.2b.

    The BC Association for Charitable Gaming has asked the BC Auditor General to look into this mess. Unfortunately, he cannot reply to the Society, he must give his report to the legislature--when it is in session--and you know how many days that has been!

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