Talking to Native Teens about School
What First Nations kids say keeps them going, and what pulls them away. Second in a series.
Belinda Lucas: 'My mom encourages me to go.'
[Editor's note: This article is second in a six-part series on Native youth speaking out about their challenges and dreams. The 14 young people interviewed for this series are introduced in part one.]
Ken Watts feels his community is in good hands. He looks forward to the time when today's young people become his community's leaders. "Just because some of them are having problems now, doesn't mean that they aren't going be successful, or that they aren't going to be good leaders some day."
Watts should know. A member of Port Alberni's Tseshaht First Nation, with a BA and a full-time job at the West Coast Vancouver Island Aquatic Management Board, he is an influential provincial leader through his role as male youth representative of the B.C. Assembly of First Nations.
Yet a decade ago, Watts was one of those youth who were, as he puts it, having problems. "I was kicked out of Grade 11," he says, "not for drugs or anything, just for skipping classes."
Watts realized that he did want to finish high school. Fortunately for him, Port Alberni's alterNative school Vast Learning Opportunities Centre provided night courses that allowed him to make up his missing classes. He graduated, on time.
"I honestly don't know what I would have done without that program. Maybe I would have gone back and finished high school later," he says. But then his voice trails off. "But maybe I never would have gone back..."
Watts, now 27, beat the odds. Until recently, Alberni School District had one of the lowest gradation rates for aboriginal kids in the province. He not only finished school, but went on to complete his BA at Malaspina University College (now Vancouver Island University). But even the best of programs can succeed only if there is a desire from those that they reach out to.
"My dad made me realize how important an education is," says Watts. He believes that today, a formal education is more important than ever. "In the past you could work in the trades, as a labourer. But today, even most of those jobs require a level of formal education."
Watts's father was somewhat of an exception to his generation, having finished high school and three years of engineering at university as well. His father's values spurred him to seize the opportunity to complete his high school courses at night and to go on to post-secondary education. But many aboriginal teens do not have this type of parental role-modelling.
The actual statistics about high school completion vary between surveys: for western Canada in 2001, approximately 50 per cent of the aboriginal population 15 or over and not attending school had received their high school diploma -- compared to nearly 70 per cent of the general population.
Parents help kids succeed
With something like half of aboriginal adults not having completed high school, many teens are left without direct parental role-modelling of formal education. But even parents who have not completed high school themselves play a large role in influencing their children's success.
One of the main reasons for missing school, the Squamish kids tell me, is simply that "We're teenagers. Sometimes we sleep in, or just forget to go."
Sarah, 18, who has graduated from high school, says, "It's thanks to my parents. They came downstairs and woke me up every day. I'm grateful for that."
Ralphie, 16, agrees, crediting her good attendance at school to her aunt who gets her up in the morning. LanLan nods. "I'm glad for that too, my parents waking me up. They care that I'm going to school. I'm almost done, and they're proud."
I can't help but see the irony in their words, as we sit in a pizza joint on Vancouver's North Shore. In the surrounding affluent neighbourhoods, parental support for many kids' schooling comes in the form of help with reading and enrichment activities before many children even start school. Such kids are also driven to extracurricular activities, sent on school excursions, and given access to subject-specific private tutors. But these reserve kids -- themselves a select group, the ones who are still in school -- are grateful to have parents who simply wake them up and remind them it's a school day.
Parents' attention to school days is not an issue only for the city kids. On one of my visits with Belinda, 17, in Port Alberni, she told me, "My mom encourages me to go; she wakes me up in the morning." But Belinda's mom had been away that week, so Belinda just hung out on the couch. "I missed four of the five days."
Ken Watts feels that communities, and specifically parents, are becoming increasingly supportive of formal education for their children.
"From a traditional First Nations perspective, we have a different way of education. Being in the community, and sitting with the elders, that is education itself. The formal way is still a bit foreign to some of our people."
He notes the negative attitude the residential school system created in many older Native people. Yet he also sees how far things have progressed since those days.
It is clear from all 14 of the kids that I spoke to -- even the two who are not currently in school -- that they considered finishing high school to be important. They understand that it affects their employment opportunities.
And these kids have plans. Sarsar and Joan want to work in early childhood education; Vanessa wants to start an art café; Monica is inspired by a friend who has gone to law school; and Patrick would like to become a mechanic or start a tourism business.
These kids want to finish school. But even those with good family support find many other challenges to staying in school.
Is poverty an issue?
I ask the Squamish youth, who all live on the Mission Reserve in North Vancouver, if they feel affected by poverty. They unanimously say no. However, as our conversation proceeds, I am surprised to find how many of them work while studying full-time -- not for spending money, but to help support their family.
"I don't really help financially," Bud, 17, starts to say, but then he catches himself. "But sometimes I pass my parents some money to help them out. I help them when they're short, and they help me when I'm short."
"Ever since I was 10, I helped out by working as a babysitter, helping to put food on the table," says LanLan with pride. "I worked at Burger King last year for spring break, and they asked me to stay on. So I just did five hours after school, so I wouldn't be too tired, four to five days a week."
And working such hours does affect schooling, Bud notes. "Last school year I was working so many midnight shifts, that's why I missed so many classes. That affected my grades. I failed some classes and have to repeat them."
Poverty has other spin-down effects. Patrick, 17, comes from remote Hot Springs Village, accessible by a long boat ride up the open coast from Tofino. He moved to Port Alberni to do grade eight, but had to drop out partway through the year to return home to care for his father, who had been in an accident. He continued several years of home schooling in his village, then moved back to Port Alberni to finish high school.
"I was going to go to grade 11 there, but I was stuck for a place to stay. I stayed at my cousins' for a while, but then they got kicked out." That was two years ago. Since then, with not much to do, Pat's got into a cycle of smoking and boozing and getting into trouble. "My habits are getting the best of me."
Dealing with bullies
Bullying at schools is also an issue that came up for some of the youth. While the Squamish kids, who attend public schools in North Van, did not report to me any problems with bullying or racism, several of the kids from the smaller communities did. And, surprising to me, most of the bullying they've experienced was not related to racism, but came from within their own cultural groups.
Becky, from Opitsaht, attended public high school in Port Alberni. She left after grade nine because of other students who were threatening her; she was lucky to be able to transfer to an alterNative school and continue her education. Alanda, from Tofino, attended high school in Ucluelet. She saw bullying there both as a racist issue and within her own cultural group. And Belinda, from Port Alberni, missed one of her appointments with me because of a police interview after she was threatened by other Native girls.
I asked Gisele Martin, 31, for her perspective on this. She works with Native children and youth in Tofino-Ucluelet, and as a young Nuu-chah-nulth person she passed through the public school system here not so long ago. She suspects that there is a lot of violence in some of the children's families, as well as between families. "And that affects kids' behaviour, causes them to be acting out and bullying."
Martin, commenting on the fact that so few of the kids I've interviewed had mentioned racism as an issue, wondered if "maybe you just don't notice the racism as much, if your own cultural group already has issues."
Her feelings are echoed by Squamish youth worker Latashkinem Roberts, who notes about his kids: "Their worlds are still really small -- they think they don't experience racism. Our kids are still living on our reserves, and spending all their time within our community." Roberts recalls working at another Vancouver school, where the vice principal used to refer to the Native children as "mutts."
"There is racism," he says. "They just don't see it yet."
Substance abuse is another issue that ties in with school performance. Drinking and smoking pot may get kids kicked out from school. And, once kicked out, as in Pat's case, their drinking and smoking often just gets heavier. Several of the kids that I spoke with acknowledged that they have addictions to pot and alcohol that interfere with their motivation and their schooling. We will hear more about what they have to say in the next article in this series.
Tomorrow: Alcohol, drugs and clear heads. ![]()




shera
27-07-2010
Parental roles
Firstly, I'm very happy to see The Tyee and Jacqueline Windh broaching this issue. I just wanted to comment on one aspect of this piece:
"I can't help but see the irony in their words, as we sit in a pizza joint on Vancouver's North Shore. In the surrounding affluent neighbourhoods, parental support for many kids' schooling comes in the form of help with reading and enrichment activities before many children even start school. Such kids are also driven to extracurricular activities, sent on school excursions, and given access to subject-specific private tutors. But these reserve kids -- themselves a select group, the ones who are still in school -- are grateful to have parents who simply wake them up and remind them it's a school day."
Whether or not this is a jab at over-privileged North Van kids who don't appreciate what their parents do for them, I think it highlights the crux of this issue. These native kids are grateful their parents wake them up, but their parents should be doing so much more. Their parents should be helping them with homework and taking them to school. They should be helping them chart out plans for post-secondary school. I'll admit, I'm probably oversensitive, as I'm a white kid who grew up in North Van and benefited from giving, selfless parents.
I know this series can't tackle every subject but some parental accountability should factor into this piece.
KWD
27-07-2010
shera
If you want insight into “giving, selfless” parents and First Nations families, you might want to get acquainted with the residential school program and how that policy impacted First Nation’s life, past and present.
The residential school experience has left a far-reaching and painful legacy. Its impact on parenting was one of the more serious outcomes.
http://uregina.ca/datalibrary/holdings/FN_regional_survey_ch2.pdf
charlie no song
27-07-2010
resiliency and self-reliance
I think that it's really important to understand how environment plays a huge role in the up-bringing of a child/teenager/youth. Aboriginal children growing up on-reserve vs. off-reserve will experience a very different lifestyle, it's similar to how the general population might experience a difference growing up in urban environments vs. rural. Even when a reserve is located near an urban centre, the environment is a different place. It’s about recognizing that while ones upbringing might have strengths, that still means parents, children and communities need to help develop the weaknesses. There are strengths and weaknesses to any environment.
So I'm a little conflicted by the previous commenters' remark on parental "accountability". At a certain point, it's important to realize that these are teenagers in theis article, and it seems pretty clear that for a greater portion of their life, have had to be responsible for themselves (after school jobs, keeping up grades, waking up for school). I think the reporter/writer is trying to say is that these youth are trying to overcome negative statistics regarding youth drop-out/substance-abuse rates by staying positive and relying on themselves to be accountable. It sounds to me like these kids know the consequences of not going to school, and many of them have forward-thinking aspirations for their futures. And while there are challenges, I guess as readers, that's what this whole series on Native youth is about. To try and take a closer look at what kinds of challenges Aboriginal youth are experiencing, they will be different than a middle-class north van kid living in the suburbs. I wish the interviews went more in-depth, as the challenges pointed out in this article barely skim the surface.
When we look at children and youth and how to encourage positive lifestyles, most children really benefit from a parent truly showing interest in their life and asking how they are doing. In a way, it is really simple. When a family has two working parents, the amount of time that an entire family can spend together can really be limited so perhaps for these Aboriginal youth growing up on-reserve appreciate having their busy mother/father encourage them in something as simple as attending school actually means a lot in the long run. It's common knowledge that families in poverty often experience more stress and potential crisis then families from moderate income. In which case, times of non-stressful family interaction is potentially more limited and therefore would increase in value.
It's not about feeling guilty about where you come from, it's about working so that all children/youth have the opportunity to experience things that other youth are privileged to. And if the youth in these stories are able to feel encouragement from their family that furthers their resiliency, motivational drive and success, well, that's a step forward, for everyone.
shera
27-07-2010
Residential schools
@KWD
I'm very familiar with residential schools and their devastating impact on many aspects of native life, including parenting. I'm realizing my comment sounded far too flippant. That wasn't my intention. I would only hope there could be an open discussion about parenting native youth. They didn't come into this world on their own and will likely have their own children one day. How do we break the cycle caused by residential schools? How should the approach differ on the reserve and off the reserve? How do we empower parents and communities to support their youth?
charlie no song
27-07-2010
@cboo44 Yes there are
@cboo44 Yes there are fraudulent claims for compensation for residential school. There are lots of fraudulent claims made by people (the general public) when they think they can get compensation. This is nothing new, and nothing inherently Aboriginal-specific. I don't think the commenter posted a link to residential schools to provide a reason for a lack of "accountable parenting", I think they were trying to provide context. Many people don't know about residential schools, best to be informed than presume.
Anyways, this article does not even say that parents are not "accountable". That is a conclusion being assumed by the commenter's. Many of the parents sounds like they are working, struggling with money but nonetheless trying to provide for their family structure. Why do we jump to the conclusion that these parents are not caring for their children? Living in low-income environments has its challenges. A lack of additional time to spend with your family and raising your children and being there at 3pm when they come home from school is one of these challenges.
I think Shera sums it up pretty well with their latest comment. There is no easy answer to support parents who have been affected by residential school to the point where it negatively impacts their parenting. I think something many Aboriginal youth are realizing, is that they have to be stronger than many of their past generations to break that cycle, recognize and move forward from that abuse and try and reconnect with their culture/history. It's work that is already being done by many motivated and intelligent native kids working in non-profit organizations, their student councils or their band councils. It's not the best answer, but it definitely sheds some light on the growing amount of assertiveness taking place amongst the younger generations of aboriginal people.
snert
27-07-2010
Time to throw away the crutch, people.
Residential schools and their nefarious histories should not weigh heavily in this discussion. For the most part anyone who ever attended one could either be a grand parent or could have passed on a long time ago.
Not every child that attended residential school was turned in to an emotional wreck. Children are resilient and for the most part would have lived relatively normal lives after graduation/departure as long as they had supportive families to return to.
What tends to happens is that residential schooling becomes the scapegoat for everything that ails native society today and it's not.
It's as if repeating something over and over will make the pain go away and it doesn't do any thing but to re-open an old wound and never let it heal.
There is a movement afoot to dispense with the Indian Act which may or may not be a good thing. If this is not done carefully then things could go down hill over the long term. Focusing on old news, in this case the residential schools will not prevent that.
charlie no song
27-07-2010
@snert Ummm....The last
@snert Ummm....The last residential school closed down in 1996. Many people in my family have gone to residential school and are currently young parents with children in elementary school. Residential school impacts peoples ability to parent, even if they were not physically/sexually/emotionally abused simply because they grew up from the age of 5 [living] in a school system and were not familiarized by a parent directed environment for the greater portion of their formative years. So, it's not an excuse, but as humans often learn from example it does create a lot of adults who are doing the best that they can with little personal experience as to what parenting should actually look/feel like.
I do agree that when speaking about residential school it needs to be used as a context as to why issues exist and as a challenge to overcome, not as a reason to allow things to stay as they are.
charlie no song
28-07-2010
@alive i don't think the
@alive i don't think the argument is that anyone was against education. It was the fact that the federal government and churches put Aboriginal children in places that were not safe, contained varying levels of abuse and compromised their physical & psychological health. The motivation behind residential schools were literally described as putting an end to the "indian problem". This can be read about in many of the letters sent to and from gov't officials, teachers, nuns/brothers and priests via Canadian Heritage documents.
No one is saying that people wouldn't use technology to continually partake and advance themselves in contemporary society? But it is detrimental to Aboriginal people that history is recognized and learned about within a broader Canadian scale in order for the country on a whole to move forward together. Without proper education of history and the past, it's impossible for people who were mistreated to move forward with a positive vision for the future.
Fii
28-07-2010
Why was this surprising??
"And, surprising to me, most of the bullying they've experienced was not related to racism, but came from within their own cultural groups."
snert
28-07-2010
charlie no song
Sorry but no, it's not impossible. It does however take a lot of head work to get rid of the ghosts of the past and wrest the control of ones life away from them no matter who they may be.
It is a vicious cycle but it not one that can't be broken. If one needs spiritual help to do so then so be it but there are other means to do so as well. The first step, though is to realize that you and only you are in charge of your feelings, no one else.
charlie no song
4 weeks ago
@snert I agree with your
@snert I agree with your sentiments, that strength comes from the individual. But you partially misquoted my point which was: "Without proper education of history and the past, it's impossible for people who were mistreated to move forward with a positive vision for the future". What I meant by this is if we want Aboriginal children and youth to have more confidence, assertion, and strength to provide them with a suitable platform for them to become leaders in their communities, then the education system needs to include how Aboriginal relations intertwine within Canadian history. Educating youth about the history of their people AND canadian history is a step forward in allowing all children to have a better understanding of culture and their countries' history. I should add, I not only think this education needs to be part of provincial school curriculums, it needs to start at home with peoples families and communities. There's a sense of confidence and understanding that can be passed to children by teaching them the pros of ownership of information and history.
charlie no song
4 weeks ago
@alive Back in the day,
@alive Back in the day, aboriginal people did have their own systems of providing education to their own children. It was not a formal education, more like teaching children skills they needed to help provide for their community. You can read more about it in a book called: Shingwauk's Vision: A History of Native Residential Schools. However, it would not have provided them with the ability of learning the english language. In the case of residential schools, the process and structure of this education initiative did not come from a place that was respectful and valued Aboriginal children. In fact, it was almost entirely the opposite; they were considered flawed from birth due to the fact that they were ethnically Aboriginal. Not only this, but the extraction of children from their homes to be placed in a school system that did not offer them the same amount of care and nurturing needed as a child has caused varying degrees of harm to Aboriginal communities. This created communities of adults who were children-less which ultimately lead to nations of people that were imbalanced/lacked purpose. This also created generations of parents who lack instinctual skills to provide for their family. The attributes of residential school vary in degrees of impact from issues with child/parent attachment, empathy, anxiety to of course, the more extreme. Yes, ownership and accountability needs to be taken by them. But like I said, I don't think Aboriginal people were against having their children be educated so they could work and participate in native and non-native communities but due to the structure and the amount of abuse that happened within these schools, it proved to be unhealthy for the overall population. The structure was not set up to provide Aboriginal children a proper place to learn and succeed on a whole. I'm glad to hear you have some native friends that had a good experience at residential school, i know there are people that appear to have went through it unscathed which is a positive thing to hear. I guess, I don't really have the answers to everything here, but I do know that based of the Urban Aboriginal Peoples Study, that the report suggests that urban Aboriginal people that grow up with a better understanding of their culture, history and language prove to develop stronger resiliency skills and healthier lifestyles. I think that's really interesting.
charlie no song
4 weeks ago
@alive also, i realize that
@alive also, i realize that i'm answering your question in terms of what to do now regarding residential schools. I don't find it particularly meaningful to continually debate the past. The past has happened, and all I can control, influence, educate, and work towards is the future.
KWD
4 weeks ago
charlie no song
You are correct, there is no point in debating the past. Like you say, the important thing is that the impact of past events are understood in the context of today’s struggles.
I’m not sure you meant to say that past treatment “created generations of parents who lack instinctual skills”. It seems to me that what happened was that the cultural (learned skills) link between past and present was severed. There is a huge gap between past and present FN cultures. And this failed cultural connection probably underlies a great deal of the difficulities faced by FN people today.