not motherhood and applepie

Are we mature enough to question why society spends billions trying desperately to keep babies alive, even when it is certain they will never have a regular life?
29 per cent are developmentally vulnerable it says, how many of those were determined ahead of times at being great challenges?
Human beings are artificially allowed to degenerate and it can only get worse; does that make sense?
The world is over populated so, adopt a kid from a poor situation and let nature take its course if your pregnancy falls in to that 29 percent group.

alive

I find it deplorable what you just wrote.

Do you love abortion?

Do you believe not all human life is equal?

Do you want to euthanize - as in kill - people w/ special needs?

Please clarify.

billions?

"Are we mature enough to question why society spends billions trying desperately to keep babies alive, even when it is certain they will never have a regular life?"

How much money are we talking about? No doubt you have a concrete figure to back up your contention?

alive

If we believe the numbers thrown out in this article, only 5 percent of the 30 percent that are vulnerable have a bioloical basis behind their vulnerability. Although I agree that not only are we are doing everything possible to make sure those numbers increase, we are also failing to come to terms with the fact that the world’s burgeoning population is demanding more resources than can be supplied.

But, the issue here isn’t population control, it’s the reduction of child vulnerability.

It should be common knowledge that those societies that have put a primary focus on caring for their children by tackling things like child abuse, adequate health care and houseing, and making the pre-school years the real “learning” years, are the societies found in the “developed” world. And the ones that have an opportunity to make the world a better place.

The present government is doing everything possible to change that. If they’re allowed to continue, it’s only a matter of time before we find ourselves rubbing shoulders with third world countries.

Chill out Polakite, don't

Chill out Polakite, don't turn this into an anti-abortion rant.
Alive's point is a good one. I personally find the statement "Income support for poor parents to reduce child poverty" a bit backwards. How about educational support to everyone BEFORE children are even conceived, so that people are either able to make proper decisions about bringing another vulnerable human in to this idiot world, or at least are able to budget properly for themselves rather than rely on society to do it for them.

And what does this even mean, exactly?:
"Today, only 71 per cent of B.C. children arrive at kindergarten meeting all of the developmental benchmarks they need to thrive both now and into the future: 29 per cent are developmentally vulnerable,"

Benchmarks?! Who decides what these are? Can someone elaborate? I never went to pre-school. I was 5 when I went to Kindergarten and was an only child until I was 6. I think I spent a heck of a lot of time alone actually, or just with my mum.

I'm one of the most well-rounded people I know :)

And instead of investing, Polak is cutting...

...early intervention for children with special needs and children at risk. She has eliminated proven, evidence-based autism early intervention programs that save society on average $3.6 million over the life of **EACH CHILD**. Without this intervention, families who can't cope with severely disabled children have to put them in government care at a cost of $150,000 per year per child!!! How foolish is that??? To save $1.5 million a year!!!

She has cut funding for youth mental health, FASD prevention, infant development and supported child development - all areas that focus on prevention with huge long-term savings. And she has ordered her staff to draw up plans for even deeper cuts in 2010-11, which will specifically target community-based intervention and early intervention for at risk and special needs children.

We may never be able to entirely eliminate the risks of children being born with congenital disabilities even if we wanted to (no test can distinguish between whether your unborn child will have autism or be the next Einsten or a bit of both). And we have no choice but to deal with the children who are already here. They deserve to live in dignity and to be given an opportunity to develop to their potential, just like everyone else.

Years of research have given us early intervention techniques that can help these children achieve their potential to be successful contributing citizens - they are no longer destined for lives of dependence and failure. It costs us all far less to provide this early support than to deny it. These children deserve to benefit from scientific advancement no less than children who are victims of childhood diseases. Any one of our children can suffer harm due to accident or to the circumstances they happen to face in life that are out of their control - all deserve a fair chance to overcome the challenges that life has thrown at them.

Early intervention was life changing for my own son with autism - and indeed for our entire family. He will graduate high school, get a job and live something very close to a normal life, thanks to the foresight of a society that saw fit to help us invest in him and to give him a chance.

The group Moms on the Move is currently campaigning against the cuts to early intervention, with a petition urging premier Campbell to live up to his promises to BC's most vulnerable children. This is an all-volunteer network that links families raising challenging children province-wide so that they can support each other in the face of huge and growing gaps in the social safety net.

Moms on the Move: http://MomsNetwork.ca

Petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/qwy4pce2/petition.html

Hat-tip to Moms on the Move

But respectfully, you are growlin' up the wrong tree, trooper. You need to chew on Premier Campbell & Finance Minister Hansen - they control the wallet. And they know Mary Polak wants more $$$ for the things you ask for - I sure don't hear of millions to run a minature train set in MCFD or of Olympic-size waste in Polak's Place.

I'm with you on the need, trust me. Time to help our Mary instead of knife her, respectfully.

Good sense not going to happen

The children don't vote, and the parents prefer an incredibly expensive 2-week party.

So kids you are SOL, and so is society who will have to pay the final bill.

As far as population control, forget euthanasia, etc. The best population control, even surpassing war, is the economic and educational development of the society, and women. Works every time and in every country. Look at birth rate stats in every country where women improve economically and educationally.

But what the hell, it's going to be a great party, that we will be paying for, for the next 20 years, minimum!

3 billion for children in BC?

Not a chance with Campbell. I used to think he only understood numbers and not people. Now I'm not so sure about numbers with Olympics, Whitecaps roof and a maximum deficit of only $495 million.

Prediction

Campbell will say that its a great idea and will declare a new spending program on children of $3,000 a year for 999 years. Then forget about kids altogether in Year 2 after he spots a shiny rock on the beach at his mansion on the Sunshine Coast.

A couple of thoughts

I wonder what would be the correlation between HELP results and those of Fraser Institute school ratings? (I have no use for FI., but HELP findings may put into context the "barren" ratings of this group.
Secondly, makes me think of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, all of whom, I believe, fund early childhood much more generously than us. I don't think any of them are going broke...they seem to at the top of all quality of life surveys, happiness ratings etc.

greengreen

I presume you know, or checked first to verify who it is exactly that funded this organization and this study? Since you say enthusiastically that "HELP findings may put into context...", you clearly therefore support the present government in financing HELP and its studies.

"HELP is funded through a diversity of sources with principal funding from the BC Ministry of Children & Family Development."

Logical economics

dictates that money is an infinite resource. You take out a loan for money you don't have and the bank fires up the printing press and creates more 'wealth'. The whole Olympic house of cards is built upon this shaky foundation and the premise that the money was only available for the Olympics. Neither idea has any basis in reality. Further, suggesting tax and spend policies are the exclusive purview of the 'left' is a great sound bite, but clearly borrowing against the future is S.O.P. for all political parties, as even a cursory examination of the headlines confirms.

Polakite

Taxes would not have to be raised in order to find the money to spend on kids. Something Mary Polak needs to learn apparently.

In fact, since Campbell has raised taxes for much of the population a return to the way taxation was done in the past would result in tax decreases for many people.

The overall balance between corporate and personal taxes, between consumption and income taxes and the layering on of tolls, premiums, fees and so on has warped the tax system and not in favour of the little guy.

A better way is certainly possible.

Of course spending on people instead of monuments to right-wing government egos would also free up a lot of cash.

political will

This stuff is absolutely required from many reasons.

Not that we need to overpopulate the world, but Quebec, which by far has the best support for parents and education for youngsters, has the highest birth rates. I'm all for the melting pot of Canadian culture, but Quebec understands multigenerational Canadian families have a different values set. Our lack of support for young children is changing our collective values more quickly.

While most things political take longer than they should, this issue will be taken up, for two reasons. The first is that the boomers, who still represent the focus of politicians, have children who are now staring to have children. The second is that our aging population will require more capable citizens to grow GDP in the face of a declining workforce. Which is another reason, from a government standpoint, to incent childbirth rates.

Finally, with apologies on throwing political parties names into this thing, I will NEVER forgive the NDP for voting down the budget with a national childcare program in it. It's like voting down Universal Health Care. As I have a 3.5 year old and 2 week old, I'm also personally hurt by it. And Harper is laughable, with a $1200 worth of taxable cheques. How does this help our future?

Your wrong COME AGAIN

Chretian and Martin (federal Liberal prime ministers) promised national childcare for over a decade,and after every election the child care vanished,or should I say got forgotten!

As for Harper,a big fan I am not but....His child care suppliment is better than nothing...And nothing is what Paul Martin and Jean Chretian delivered on national child care.

As for child care....The issue is this, in the 50s..60s...70s...and early 80s....One average income was enough to support a wife(not working) and a child or two.

Now here we are, after Trudeau started us down deficit road....You need two incomes and free child care to get by!

And in another generation at this rate you will need your kids to work,your wife,multible families in one home and generational mortgages!

But don`t you dare say that the federal liberals were going to deliver on childcare....Your obviously too young to remember the first 10 times the federal liberals promised national daycare(pre-election) and NEVER DELIVERED

And finally..Your other point...We don`t need workers,that`s a myth!..5% of the population(either chinese,Indian,American,Mexican,Canadian,whoever)can produce and provide all the goods and services the rest of mankind requires!

It`s called technology,or Technocracy,whatever.

As for Governments,either federal,provincial,municipal, google up...

(Parkinson`s law)...it`s the way governments operate,here are a couple of quotes(facts) about parkinson`s law.

"work expands to meet workforces"

"Expenditures rise to meet income"

And on and on it goes, why do you think no matter how many more residences in Vancouver(or any city) get built and pay taxes cities are always broke?
or,"we need more development to create tax revenue"

Look at Vancouver as an example,jam packed,100s of thousands of homes/residences and still.....

"Expenditures rise to meet income"

Parkinson`s law examines this,and...it happens everywhere!

Cheers

Salty Dog & Come Again:

You may want to read a summary of the Family Allwance in Canada:
The Emergence of Social Security in Canada by Dennis T. Guest. IN a nutshell, here it is:
The History of Family Allowances in Canada

The idea of family allowances was discussed in Britain, Australia, the US, Canada and in the League of Nations in the 1920s. In 1929 a Canadian parliamentary committee was asked to consider the subject and heard evidence both for and against family allowances. A Québec commission of inquiry into social welfare issues (1930-32) also received submissions on the topic. Neither recommended family allowances.

Little more was heard of the subject in Canada until WWII, when Canada's plan for postwar reconstruction (the Marsh report) was released in 1943.

The Marsh Report was a comprehensive attack on poverty and economic insecurity based upon a broad scheme of social insurance supported by universal family allowances, a national health system and a large-scale national employment program. The plan was too radical and expensive for the federal cabinet of the day but political and economic factors prompted Prime Minister Mackenzie King to select one element of the Marsh Report - family allowances - as a vote-getting device in the next federal election. This was also a bid to outflank the political left in Canadian politics, which was making electoral gains. King had the backing of economists, a majority of whom predicted large-scale unemployment at the war's end (as had happened following WWI). Family allowances were also seen as a means of maintaining purchasing power. From a constitutional viewpoint a program of family allowances was well within the spending powers of the federal government, so few provincial hackles were raised.

Critics called family allowances a waste of taxpayers' money because they went to rich and poor households alike. They alleged that the "baby bonus" was a bid for votes in French Canada, where large families were more common. It was suggested that the money be distributed by way of services rather than by cheque. Supporters of family allowances replied that the service approach alone was paternalistic and that the allowances would enhance the autonomy of families.

See the following post for the remainder.

Part Two: Family Allowance

Despite some half-hearted opposition by the Conservatives in the House of Commons in 1944, the legislation was passed unanimously on second reading - a remarkable event for such a momentous piece of legislation.

Family allowance payments, tax-free, varied according to age: for children under age 5, these were $5 per month; from 6-9 years, $6; 10-12 years, $7; and 13-15, $8. The average payment per child was $5.94, considerably below the March Report's recommended minimum payment of $7.50 per child. Initially allowances were reduced for the fifth and subsequent children but this provision was removed in 1949.

Despite the program's popularity it was largely neglected by the federal government. Between 1945 and 1973 only one marginal increase in benefit was legislated even though inflation had badly eroded the requirements increased. This extension was prompted by Québec, which had instituted a similar scheme on its own in 1961. The government's neglect of the family allowance program in postwar years appears to have been directly related to its lack of appreciation of the program's potential in terms of social equity and administrative consistency. In addition the predicted postwar recession did not occur.

In 1972 in response to a public concern about growing poverty in Canada, the federal government attempted to replace universality with selectivity - that is, a system of family allowances related to family income. The proposal would have paid maximum benefits to the poorest 36% of families, partial benefits to 34% and no benefits to 30% of families. This plan was heavily criticised for its inadequate attack on poverty and its administrative complexity (allowances were to be based upon the preceding year's income). The Bill never made it through the House of Commons before the federal election of October 1972, which returned to a minority Liberal government with the NDP, a strong proponent of universality, holding the balance of power.

In this situation the government dropped its selective plan and introduced a new Family Allowances Act which incorporated selectivity with universality by declaring family allowances taxable. However even high-income parents could retain a portion of their benefit, and thus the principle of "horizontal equity" was observed.

In 1978, with the Liberals again commanding a majority in parliament, a major restructuring of family allowances occurred which expanded the role of the tax system in child support and diminished the role of family allowances. The government established a Refundable Child Tax Credit of $200 per annum for families with incomes of $18 000 or less. As incomes rose above this level, benefits would be taxed away to disappear entirely at $26 000. As the median income for families in 1978 was $19 500, a majority of families would receive some benefit for the new program, which came into effect in 1979.

How can we have a better

How can we have a better economy for the people of BC, when our whole economy, and our politicians, are owned and dictated from abroad, and designed for the maximum exploitation of people and resources, stealing us blind ?

When will people realize that so called "foreign investors" bring nothing to any country? The sole purpose of foreign investment is colonization through debt, the best racket ever invented.

Colonization used to be done with the power of arms, now it is done with the perceived power of imaginary, non existing money, created from the air by some bank somewhere, enslaving the whole world under the dictatorship of the few of the multinational corporate mafia.

And this is why we have incredible poverty and sickness, in the richest country on Earth. .

Ed Deak.

Part Three: Family Allowance

The Refundable Child Tax Credit, which was applied for and paid out annually, lacked the administrative simplicity, the predictability and regularity of the monthly payments of family allowances. The tax credit was financed by cutting back on the monthly family allowance benefits from an average of $28 per month to $20 and by reducing or eliminating certain other tax exemptions for children.

In 1985 a Conservative government in Ottawa concerned about government debt and deficits announced a 4-year plan to restructure family benefits. Beginning in 1986, family allowances were only partially indexed to the cost of living. The refundable child tax credits were to be increased for 3 successive years, from 1986 to 1988, to $549 per annum, and beginning in 1989 were also to be partially indexed in the same manner as family allowances (the inflation rate over 3%). At the same time the number of families who could qualify for the tax credit was narrowed by dropping the income ceiling from $26 330 to $23 500.

Critics charged that the impact of partial indexing of family allowances and child tax credits represented a spending cut in family benefits for $550 million by 1991 and the poorest families would receive only a token increase in their net family benefits over the years 1985 to 1989.

In 1989 the Conservative government ended the universal nature of family allowances by requiring upper-income parents to repay all of their benefit at tax-filing time as part of its program to target social benefits to low- or moderate-income recipients. Paradoxically it maintained and increased a tax deduction for child care expenses which provided the greatest benefit to high-income families.

The End of Federal Family Allowance

In 1992 with a minimum of public discussion the Conservative federal government replaced Family Allowance with a new Child Tax Benefit, into which Family Allowance, the Refundable Child Tax Credit and a nonrefundable child tax credit were consolidated. The new benefit, paying a maximum of $85 per month per child up to the age of 18, was tax-free and income-tested on the basis of net family income as reported in the preceding year's income tax returns.

Maximum benefits are gradually reduced as family income exceeds the income ceiling (in 1992 this was $25 921, when average family income was $38 565). Benefits are only partially protected from rises in the cost of living, that is, only the inflation rate in excess of 3% will result in an adjustment.

Part four: Family Allowance

Family size and its association with family poverty and the additional costs of caring for preschool children were recognized with small supplements and an earned-income supplement to "reinforce the incentive of low-income parents to participate in the work force" was added. This latter initiative was a step back into the 19th century in Canadian social policy to a time when attempts were made to differentiate between the "worthy" and the "unworthy" poor. Universal family allowance was predicated on the idea that all Canadian children were worthy of public support.

Despite the efforts since 1978 to target family allowance and tax support for child dependents to low- and moderate-income families, the incidence of child poverty in Canada is second highest among Western developed nations - second only to the US. The countries of western Europe which have markedly less child poverty, use selectivity within a broad framework of universal programs.

Québec reflects the European pattern in that it continues to provide a program of universal family allowance up to age 18. There are also supplements on a universal basis to families with children under age 6, to families caring for severely handicapped children, and allowances are available to newly born or newly adopted children.
- Author: DENNIS GUEST
Please note my highlight above. The present Conservative government in Canada is no better than its predecessor in perpetuating onerous living conditions among the lower middle class in this country, by the simple expedient of underfunding.

finding the money

"how long would $3 bio last in funding childrens' healthcare? The key is sustainable programmes over the long term."

BC's GDP was nearly $200 billion in 2008. I'm pretty sure we could find a way to spend 1.5% of that on kids we looked around. It's probably in the couch cushions, or that jacket we haven't worn for a while.

It is so easy!

It is about the same as the cost for a two week olympic party and the benefits go far beyond a few decades. It is so damn easy it is a crime not to do it. It isn't even a "hard choice" has nothing to do with what the NDP did but is all about the morality of a government. It is a pity this government has none.

tilting at windmills

“… this phrase of yours should be shouted over and over again from the proverbial rooftops -- until people "get it"!”

Unfortunately Ed’s phrase … whatever it is, and however it’s percieved, is exactly what investors, foreign or otherwise, want to hear. It’s like reinforcing armour over a straw man.

No matter how hard you try and how much progress you think you’ve made, the constant focus on the pitfalls of imaginary wealth, banksters and Ponzi artists is diversionary. Once you get through it you’re still left with an uneducated public and an uncaring and heartless political body.

Financing early childhood development directed at language, cognitive, social, emotional, and physical health is one way of exposing exploitation, economic colonization and the multinational corporate mafia. Until then expect more conflict, bigger prisons, more poverty, and economic, political and social systems that become increasingly dysfunctional.

oh Salty Dog

Here's a link for you on the Liberals Child Care. I totally agree they did nothing for ages. But then they did something. A budget line item for $5 Billion and agreements in principle the Provinces? Oh yeah, they were totally faking... pssh.

http://canadaonline.about.com/od/federalparties/a/elichildcare.htm

You muse on needing two incomes to get by. True. Of course, that $1200 a year child care benefit serves those with enough money to keep a parent at home a lot better than the rest of us. It's better than almost no other alternative.

Our capitalist system needs GDP growth to sustain itself. And it's a competitive market. Sure the Mexican's can make stuff, but if we can't buy it because we pay 70% of income to fund health care and OAS for our rapidly aging population, good luck to us. Whether our take home incomes rise or not, things cost money. They still sell more BMWs in Vancouver than Cape Breton, because you know what, BMW sells them for what they're worth to those that can afford them. And if Canadians can't afford them, maybe Mexicans can.

come again

The thing is that the Liberals never had any intention of actually passing child care in 2005. I hate to flog this dead horse yet again, but the chronology was as follows: Martin suddenly brought in child care legislation in late November 2005 when parliament only had a few days left to sit before the Christmas break and then Martin had already committed to dissolving parliament and calling an election when Gomery brought in his report - which was due in January '06. I realize that this is all ancient history and that most people don't remember the chronology, but the reality is that even if the opposition parties had NOT defeated the Martin government in late November '05 - there simply weren't anywhere near enough days when parliament was to be sitting during which the bill could have passed three readings and gone to the senate before Martin had committed to calling an election.

In short, it was never going to happen in the first place. The plan among the Liberals was ALWAYS for child care and the Kelowna Accord to die on the order paper so that they could campaign on the promise of reintroducing those bills after the election - but then Martin decided to run the most incompetent campaign of all time and the rest is history.

Of course Liberal apologists always conveniently forget that the NDP and BQ offered to fast track those bills and let the government survive into January on condition that Martin call an election in early January - but Martin refused!

RickW

Go right on ahead, raise taxes some more.

Let's see how many businesses flee to Saskatchewan, Alberta and other right-wing provinces.

Gee, real smart. Taxes DO matter. I agree with the gent who says rants like this are "grist" for editorials baseless in reality.

Polakite

Spin. Its your side that has raised taxes on the bottom half of the population.

Its your side that has seen less jobs created compared to what the NDP created in the 1990s.

Its your side that has been in power as poverty increased markedly.